Was looking through the development forum and noticed that SteelRom was missing. Replaced with CLOSED.
the thread is locked now, as is all the other thread SteelH posted for the Evo3D. Looks like he just up and left!
Over on the former SteelRom thread is some back and forth between Virus, TrevE,Freeza, etc and claims of Synergy "kanging" the Zeus Mod and how Steel, Kushdeck and others ported it properly and such.
So..... WTF? We just got S OFF not too long ago and there is already in fighting?
Where is a pic of Rodney King when you need it?
I seen virus and kush kinda going at it the other day, didn't know steel was in that little spat also.
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I seen virus and kush kinda going at it the other day, didn't know steel was in that little spat also.
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Yeah. He totally closed up shop, pulled all links and such.
This all seems kindof ridiculous over a mod. We seriously going to lose a Dev over it? The Evo3D forums just seek WAY more brutal than the 4G forums did...or am I being naive?
Yeah looks that way for now at least.
I for one surely hope he didn't as he did a great mod and was a very valuable dev here as he took the time to teach and show exactly the code for a lot of the mods like the beats audio and others he put up in the other section.
Seemed like there was possibly some missunderstanding on both sides and all after reading all the posts. One side says SteelH used their already moded apk and he and others tweaked it with no credit, and the other side seems to be saying they didn't. OR least they didn't know it was from synergy b/c they didn't directly pull it from it to begin with as they got it elsewhere.
Some ppl didn't like the kang reference in Steel's OP but i didn't see much prob with it. way it was worded was saying to steal this(use this).
in the thread both sides(Treve, virus, frezza,etc..) seemed very polite though, with exception to other users that posted in there which had zero business doing so, as all they were doing was starting crap.
Really hope he comes back as its a shame this turned into what it did. Dev's dont need to be fighting with one another period. Leave that to the Apple iOS folk.
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Yeah. He totally closed up shop, pulled all links and such.
This all seems kindof ridiculous over a mod. We seriously going to lose a Dev over it? The Evo3D forums just seek WAY more brutal than the 4G forums did...or am I being naive?
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no, not naive. but i dont think it's just here. there are some new jackasses in the 4g forums as well. i asked a question over there a few weeks back because i wanted a quick answer and some dickwad was trying to call me out on being a "noob." clearly he did not have a clue. i had basically stumbled upon a way to temp root GB on my old 4g (at least my phone anyway and before the current method) of which i had purposely s-on'd and installed the latest RUU, but i was told that it was not possible and that i was stupid for even asking and so i decided not to share what i had done. granted it probably wouldnt have worked for everyone but im sure it would have for a few.
it seems as if everyone knows more that everyone else now-a-days i guess.
but back on topic...............who cares who "kanged" what, it's android, it's all open source. either way, these devs know when they are using someone elses stuff. give them credit. i use other people stuff in my roms. why? because i can't code. sure, i know some basics and can smali/bak-smali and edit a few lines but that doesn't mean i can code. if it weren't for the people who can, i wouldn't have a clue as to what to edit.
I wanted to add beats mod to xHausx rom for a friend...search for it, got the link..CLOSED..damn..other mods closed as well from him. Now, we had all those mods..gone.
why take out the mods? It's a shame...
If you're reading this SteelH, don't let some jacka$$e$ run you off man. F*ck them. You've got a loyal following and we'd hate to see you go over something like this.
Theres a huge fight with Kush, virus, treve, steelh and freeza about stolen code. XDA has fallen.
Free Dirk!!!
Its not like were talkin about something he took and didnt touch himself and took credit for here. if the apk they were given to start already had some of zig's work and they didn't know it then okay, misunderstanding, issue done and just make a simple note of such, end of story.
Its not like hes pulling some kingklick crap.
This is SteelH were tlakin bout, this guy contributes a ton to the community much more past the basic rom. Posting the actual code and changes for specific mods detailed out is a giant help for new devs and even old ones that didn't know.
Both sides do some amazing work and their own thing, its time to squash the beef and get SteelH back as this petty crap aint worth it.
;-(
What happened to XDA? I have been here for a long time. Ever since I got my first G1. I wouldn't hesitate to say I am addicted. Always learning new stuff. Making my phones do stuff they were never intended to do. My only complaint I used to have was when ever you had a problem, before a dev would reply with something useful it was "WHERE'S YOUR LOGCAT?!?" Now no one asks for a LOGCAT. Seems its either some ungrateful whiney brat that's demanding something be done, that said person couldn't accomplish on their own. Or a bunch of fighting about this or that or another. I don't know about any one else, but who gives a crap? I am not trying to be cool, hell I'm a nerd... thats why I am here. Don't get me wrong. There are devs on here that make me do nasty nerd stuff to myself ;-). Every time I start to get my rhythm we seem to loose another dev. If we loose the devs then this site is pointless. Please people, can't we go back to being happy little nerds?
What happened to XDA? It became popular.
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Its not like were talkin about something he took and didnt touch himself and took credit for here. if the apk they were given to start already had some of zig's work and they didn't know it then okay, misunderstanding, issue done and just make a simple note of such, end of story.
Its not like hes pulling some kingklick crap.
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Omg. KingKlick. LOL
I remember loving his kernels for a while. Having him keep asking for donations to buy an evo to do kernels properly. And then turns around and buys a Vibrant or some crap and claiming "I didn't use the donation money, duh" and having all his little followers defend him. I never used anything he made again, a month later he was banned. Hahaha.
I cant lie. The Evo 4G forums were known for bull****, but now the 3D forums take the cake. We're the worst on XDA because we have the assholes. Period.
Free Dirk!!!
I dont even see steelH and freeza on irc.
Smh.
Free Dirk!!!
I dont understand all this crap. People kang other peoples stuff all the time. That is what a rom is practically. Tweaked this(dev A did), tweaked that(dev B did), etc., add it all together and you get a rom. Zip align was a script that some dev came up with and now everbody uses it, same with deodex, same with ram scripts, etc. I had an Epic before, and one person tweaked code to add lockscreen, next thing you know everbody was using it. Think about how all this crap is done....I use apkmanager and xultimate to decompile, edit, deodex etc. Nobody every gives the creators of those tools credit anymore. Pardon me if I am wrong in anything that I have said.
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I dont understand all this crap. People kang other peoples stuff all the time. That is what a rom is practically. Tweaked this(dev A did), tweaked that(dev B did), etc., add it all together and you get a rom. Zip align was a script that some dev came up with and now everbody uses it, same with deodex, same with ram scripts, etc. I had an Epic before, and one person tweaked code to add lockscreen, next thing you know everbody was using it. Think about how all this crap is done....I use apkmanager and xultimate to decompile, edit, deodex etc. Nobody every gives the creators of those tools credit anymore. Pardon me if I am wrong in anything that I have said.
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right...the point behind android is...ITS OPEN SOURCED!!!! So even if you modify the code...the code still belongs to Google! These devs need to quit being effin babies and give credit where credit is due and keep it moving.
Credit should be given where credit is due and I hope Steel comes back. If ANY Developer happens to read this ... word of advice:
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER PM THEM ABOUT IT DONT TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS. THE FORUMS ARE FULL OF INCITING USERS THAT WILL MAKE THE SITUATION TWO HUNDRED TIMES WORSE.
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Credit should be given where credit is due and I hope Steel comes back. If ANY Developer happens to read this ... word of advice:
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER PM THEM ABOUT IT DONT TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS. THE FORUMS ARE FULL OF INCITING USERS THAT WILL MAKE THE SITUATION TWO HUNDRED TIMES WORSE.
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Credit should be given where credit is due and I hope Steel comes back. If ANY Developer happens to read this ... word of advice:
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER PM THEM ABOUT IT DONT TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS. THE FORUMS ARE FULL OF INCITING USERS THAT WILL MAKE THE SITUATION TWO HUNDRED TIMES WORSE.
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Attempts are being made.
I'm a little disappointed to see that Chris jumped to iPhone and won't be creating a Sprint Lover's ROM for my EVO 3D. Looks like I need to learn how to build ROMs now.
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Now that HTC made their announcement a couple of weeks ago, we have an actual ETA on the unlocked bootloader. That said, as we all know, it'll be a month or two before this goes into effect. I know that many people (myself included) jumped to the EVO 3D because of the spectacular dev support that the 4G received, hoping that the 3D would get similar support on even better hardware. I think there were many people disappointed in HTC regarding the bootloader and how long it took them to unlock it (and awesomely impressed with dev temp-root workarounds!), and I certainly wouldn't blame developers for jumping ship to another device due to impatience with HTC. Of course, if devs go, there will the people follow.
My question to the devs is that now that we're reaching the deadline of the 30 day exchange policy and with rumors of the Galaxy 2 II on the horizon, are you going to be sticking with the EVO3D or returning it to develop for another phone?
I ask not to call anyone out, but out of sheer curiosity and self-interest. As awesome as this phone is, I want to go with the phone that is going to get the most development, and I know I'm not alone in that regard.
Thanks for your time!
Personally I don't care. But you're going get flamed by some "Obese and Ugly" Super Nerd that has some kind of Napolean Complex and feels the need to tell you that this post is in the wrong section. He thinks he's doing XDA and the "interwebz" a service and also speculates daily that he's important on some grand level.
All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
I've jumped ship. I'll never purchase another HTC phone, they can shove them up their ass, lock their bootloaders and masterbate on the code as it prints out from their ****** iMac and MacBook Pro's.
..sigh.
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All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
..sigh.
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I would agree with this statement.
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Sad but true .. all I want is to be able to tether
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
No one, just a bunch of morons talking out there ass
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
Really guys, is too soon to jump out the ship, we gotta be patience, I believe on the EVO3D dev team!
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I don't think any devs have jumped ship, theirs just no reason to develop anything right now. The only thing we have right now is temp root and that has been developed into something far beyond what it started off as.And not to forget the all the skins, unrooted rosie mods, overclocking and everyone behind the scenes working on trying to crack the bootloader with the little there is to work with. For now the 3D is a great example of the saying- when life throws you lemons... And when one of the outstanding Devs here squeezes the juice out of the locked bootloader we will have us one fine lemonade stand.
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
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I would agree with this statement.
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I wouldn't at all (even though we really aren't have a "Dev" discussion right now), I hardly see how anyone can say "HE" killed dev for our device. I don't think the dev is dead at all, hell, he tried to keep all the BS and stupid questions out of the Dev section. I personally think that the fact there has been a min post count rule implemented across the dev forums speaks volumes to and shows that people do need to read and respect the a) section and b) OP when posting in a thread, well.... lets say posting HTC rants in a thread dedicated to our temp root solution.
"He" may have been a bit slow to reopen the thread (in our section) that he was basically forced to police because of morons that can't read or comprehend just what a dev thread is for, but that hardly constitutes making the "Dev being dead, over and out". Said morons and illiterates actually drove the dev's to IRC, away from the public forum where they started and hoped to collect ideas and garner more support from the masses on the development work.
I would like to hear a dev say "he" killed their work on this device... sounds like crazy talk to me from some impatient users.
I won't be jumping ship (speaking as veteran flash addict and avid Dev supporter), we'll have our perm root one way or another. I am just surprised to see people acting so butt hurt over what is going on, a month out of the gate.
Now that, is some sad shhhht to sigh about...
Oh, and... IBTL
I hope allot of the 4g devs do make a appearance, I personally think most of them are the best there is. I believe we picked up a bunch of hero guys too, there's a whole lot of exceptional talent in that group too. I think once we get full root, theres going to be some real awesume stuff pop up overnight in this forum,
I do have to say the ones that are here now are going a great job and putting out a lot of badass stuff considering all most of them have to work with is teamwin's temp root.
/.....
So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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I heard deck, myn, and virus are aboard. I know fresh is. I am sure many other are. I also believe the dev responsible for the kernal for cm7 is aboard to. What is his name? Man bugging me now....
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So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
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I think that's pretty much where I'm at, just sitting tight. I found myself in the unfortunate spot of getting a 3D with a touchscreen issue, and I'm between doing a 30 day return or exchange. I think more than likely I'll end up keeping it (the thing is a beast), and it's good to know that there's other people sticking around
I think we should all jump ship and give up, after all that's why we're here, at xda developers. Also, this piece of junk unmatched phone had been out for a crazy long 37 days, what with no root... WTF. And that damn mod... Keeping morons with big mouths out of dev threads, what a douche, we should just let everyone say and do what they want in here. That way we could read more. I hope a mod closes this thread and bans the OP for a month, for fun (because this awesome development is... A question). Member since 08 ... Get some email addresses or follow them on Twitter, or pm them, or find them in webchat, that's how you talk to a dev.
BANG! from my shooter...
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You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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Good point. I did generalize by saying "devs" but I definitely meant both. ROMs are one of the best reasons to root. Looking forward to getting some CM, kushdeck, and MIUI on this bad boy, not to mention the host of awesome Sense developers like Myn, Virus, and Ava. From most responses, it seems like we don't have too much to worry about. As far as CM and MIUI are concerned, if demand is high enough, there'll either be an official release or at the very least a port, since they're community projects.
Let's clean this up a bit, shall we?
I get the impression sometimes that we (speaking about everybody here in the 3D forums recently) make this place sort of "unfriendly" with sarcasm and troll posts, rudeness when people post in the wrong section, create duplicate threads, so on and so forth...
First of all, I will say that I am fully aware of my own contribution to this, lol. BUT... i was thinking earlier about when I started out over on SDX and how friendly and eager people were to help me when I was new to the android/Linux scene (although I still had somewhat of a basic understanding of it because of my knowledge of windows, Linux and especially android was a new world to me and much of the knowledge I have picked up since then was simply because people were so willing to offer help and their own knowledge - regardless of "noob" questions (when I simply could have used a search button).
Yeah, for whatever reason you just want to punch people through the computer sometimes when they post in the wrong section or make "hAlp my phonez is teh broken" threads that can easily be fixed with some searching around. But I think we should try to be a little bit more of a friendly and tolerant (and therefore tolerable... ironically) of the things that go on around here.
Anyways, just some dumb ass rant post. But I thought I would share this thought because I feel the action of it could be a positive thing around here.
oouuut.
So, I will be nicer to people. Let's all try this, shall we?
except for freeza.... i am still trolling you.... on a regular basis. lulz
Cool story bro
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Cool story bro
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I think that's exact reason why the op posted this thread,childish stuff like that.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader
XDA has become /b/
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Cool story bro
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lol... touchè
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l000000000l as a youngster I used to be the lookout ;-)
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Would be a change of pace. A nice one. Maybe this should be some sort of pledge to help teh n00bz.
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Yes,I'm one of the sorry trolls you are talking about
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In the Netherlands we always say: there no such thing as a stupid question but only stupid answers.
You hit the nail right ok the head. I joined
XDA almost a year ago and everyone was very helpful. I learned a lot. Now its a lot of people b***ing about stupid things like a devs work or a question they they have decided is "dumb".
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that since there's been a flood of Android phones hitting the market over the last year and a half or so, there's also a flood of people who come with it. They buy a new Android device, hear about 'rooting' and jump on here. Not everyone knows the meaning of respect, and they expect things to just be handed to them. There's definitely more idiots on here than before, but also just more people overall. No matter where you go, the more people around, the more idiots there will be. It's unfortunate indeed.
I try to be helpful, but it's definitely aggravating when someone just flat out doesn't read a damn thing, and asks a question that's clearly typed in the OP. When I joined, I didn't know ANYTHING about rooting, ROMs, etc. but I read a few things and learned.
There are a few forums that I use that have a n00b section with zero intolerance for the replies to questions in said sub-forum, maybe that would be nice, then we can segregate the n00bs and flame more well-known users for asking stupid things. Lol
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I used to get on here several times a day, reading these forums, but it took me a long time to actually register because the few immature people that start a fight in the thread made it look irritating. Like whoever posted in the recent ICS thread about how the OP was information from another thread, even though the OP was several pages long.
Who cares? It's something else to read. That's why most of us are here, for some form of entertainment.
n00bs != newbies
Newbies don't know things and after TRYING to figure it out themselves, they have ended up, seeking answers for uncommon situations. This is OK.
n00bs, on the other hand, don't know ****, they don't give a crap about learning and expecting from others to give all the answers on a gold plate without moving a finger on their foot. This is not OK.
The sooner pseudomoralistic idiots realize this, the sooner will be this place be as it used to be before. If not, I'll continue to troll n00bs for my own amusement and you can kiss my shiny ass.
'Nuff said.
Every time I see someone say "cool story bro" I add them to my ignore list. Just added another..
That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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n00bs != newbies
Newbies don't know things and after TRYING to figure it out themselves, they have ended up, seeking answers for uncommon situations. This is OK.
n00bs, on the other hand, don't know ****, they don't give a crap about learning and expecting from others to give all the answers on a gold plate without moving a finger on their foot. This is not OK.
The sooner pseudomoralistic idiots realize this, the sooner will be this place be as it used to be before. If not, I'll continue to troll n00bs for my own amusement and you can kiss my shiny ass.
'Nuff said.
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Yes, the "an answer is easily found by a very fast google search but I'm too lazy to do it or just expect you tell me" crowd is the problem I agree. Even if they are not the majority, when I see a new thread or question that seems like an easy find, I get really mad because I had to take the time to learn and search on my own. I've been on here since 2006 and I guess because of all the new androids out there you get people who are not technologically inclined trying to do technicological things.
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That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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However, I agree it has gotten out of control, and the mods are unwilling or unable to do anything about the newbs or the a%*holes that are attacking devs when they know nothing about any of this development stuff.
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except for freeza.... i am still trolling you.... on a regular basis. lulz
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^^^ most important part of your OP...
:sidenote: your like the XDA ghandi >>
"be the change"
/trollio
EDIT: I applied to be a mod (again) - and I'm all about reducing the jackassery around here. If accepted, I'll do what I can
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Every time I see someone say "cool story bro" I add them to my ignore list. Just added another..
That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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Yes, the "an answer is easily found by a very fast google search but I'm too lazy to do it or just expect you tell me" crowd is the problem I agree. Even if they are not the majority, when I see a new thread or question that seems like an easy find, I get really mad because I had to take the time to learn and search on my own. I've been on here since 2006 and I guess because of all the new androids out there you get people who are not technologically inclined trying to do technicological things.
However, I agree it has gotten out of control, and the mods are unwilling or unable to do anything about the newbs or the a%*holes that are attacking devs when they know nothing about any of this development stuff.
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^^^ most important part of your OP...
:sidenote: your like the XDA ghandi >>
"be the change"
/trollio
EDIT: I applied to be a mod (again) - and I'm all about reducing the jackassery around here. If accepted, I'll do what I can
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/pulls out soap box and stands on it
first off you wouldnt believe the amount of buttholes and douchebags mods put up with on a daily basis. most often we only get called in when there is a problem, so everyone wants to talk about how things have changed and how it sucks putting up with the idiots. put on mod glasses, i would 75% of the people on here, instead of just reporting a troll or a n00b posting in the wrong spot or a spammer, they in turn flame, troll, spam the person that just needs reporting. so that means, we then have to clean everything back up, figure out who to get rid of and sort the whole situation. its not fun. if you want to see things change, be the change. report posts, dont flame the idiots, dont feed the trolls, just move on with your day. we arent afraid to boot people, we arent about "registration numbers", we are about supporting developers. but we cant be in every thread at once or all the time. if you see something out of place, report it, everyone has that ability. but most of us just return the favor of flaming people.
i became a mod, because i believed that a difference could be made. i reported posts, before i was a mod, i was helpful to people, i tried to teach n00bs the correct way of doing things instead of treating them like trash. yes there is an over abundance of users now due to the influx of android devices, most of the new users dont know anything, and they wont ever learn anything if we all are douchebags to them.
if XDA is becoming something that it wasnt in the past, its because we as a user base are allowing it to be so. be a respectful user, help people out, if someone is doing something they arent supposed to report them. serisously, how are we supposed to know whats going on if we arent notified?
/steps off soap box
I think a large problem too is it really does feel like the mods play favorites. I don't want to bring up the whole Chad.Goodman thing, and how he was reported and pulled in a matter of hours, yet, when he reported other non-GPL complying dev's nothing was done to them. Or my own situation, having important threads detailing hostile actions from one particular user being deleted without any reply or communication from a mod as to why. That user having no repercussion for his actions.. It's really feels that it's not an equal ground forum a lot of the time.
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I think a large problem too is it really does feel like the mods play favorites. I don't want to bring up the whole Chad.Goodman thing, and how he was reported and pulled in a matter of hours, yet, when he reported other non-GPL complying dev's nothing was done to them. Or my own situation, having important threads detailing hostile actions from one particular user being deleted without any reply or communication from a mod as to why. That user having no repercussion for his actions.. It's really feels that it's not an equal ground forum a lot of the time.
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i agree that it may feel like that sometimes, and sometimes mods need to do a better job in communicating. users will not however see everything that goes on behind the scenes. if we infract someone we dont broadcast it, its really no one else's business if i infract you, thats why other users cant see other peoples infractions. if you dont like the way a mod handled something, ask him (or her) how/why they did what they did. dont be hostile about it, just pose a question. i know we are more than willing to talk to users about their issues, and come to the best possible resolve.
Coolexe is a human being. He is a dev that doesnt know how to make a kernel without KANGING it from someone else. The only thing that the ture anthrax DEV wants is credit, where credit is supposed to be. Not to be claiming it for their own. The true anthrax kernel has been given to us hours and even days before Coolexe commits it to his github. I am stating the truth and everyone that is connected with Coolexe, especially the xda Moderators are idiots. The only thing they have to do is give credit. They have to respect and so you shall receive no respect back by people who know the truth. Why dont you just give credit where it is needed and not take money from people that think it is really you doing all the work when really it is someone else. If this thread is deleted by a MOD, then we know that that MOD is in on the KANGING with Coolexe. Thanks for reading and have a good day.
Question: Do we all know who the real developer is?
First the above user is banned because he made a secondary account just to post trash.
So. Here we are.
I am in the perfect mood for this today.
Get down off your soapbox and go outside and get a life. I couldn't give two craps for coolexe (and he would tell you the same), I couldn't give two craps for the dev you claim to be a knight for (and he would tell you the same). I have been nothing but respectful to everyone on both sides of this idiotic debacle, especially to the users that are respectful to me. If you come in here and post the drivel that you see above, you deserve to be banned.
If we are to prove the kang that is claimed we have to see source. No change logs, no screen shots. Source. That's how it has always been and it's not changing. I don't make the rules I just enforce them. I'm not on coolexe's payroll. If I could prove kang and discipline I would. I have done it numerous times in this forum. I am the least biased person here because I don't use either products. I use my own goods.
Don't be douche bags here. Zero tolerance hasn't even been in place in a while. You can't claim that I haven't banned people bashing the other side, because i did publicly (even though it got me in trouble). Don't take one side of stories, don't pretend to know everything. I don't know 100% and I unfortunately have been involved since the beginning (starting roughly a year ago now).
Thanks.
Oh btw. Even though you tagged this as a question, it really isn't and looks to be in the wrong forum.
Edit: taylor308 don't make any more accounts either. We aren't as dumb as you assume.
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First the above user is banned because he made a secondary account just to post trash.
So. Here we are.
I am in the perfect mood for this today.
Get down off your soapbox and go outside and get a life. I couldn't give two craps for coolexe (and he would tell you the same), I couldn't give two craps for the dev you claim to be a knight for (and he would tell you the same). I have been nothing but respectful to everyone on both sides of this idiotic debacle, especially to the users that are respectful to me. If you come in here and post the drivel that you see above, you deserve to be banned.
If we are to prove the kang that is claimed we have to see source. No change logs, no screen shots. Source. That's how it has always been and it's not changing. I don't make the rules I just enforce them. I'm not on coolexe's payroll. If I could prove kang and discipline I would. I have done it numerous times in this forum. I am the least biased person here because I don't use either products. I use my own goods.
Don't be douche bags here. Zero tolerance hasn't even been in place in a while. You can't claim that I haven't banned people bashing the other side, because i did publicly (even though it got me in trouble). Don't take one side of stories, don't pretend to know everything. I don't know 100% and I unfortunately have been involved since the beginning (starting roughly a year ago now).
Thanks.
Oh btw. Even though you tagged this as a question, it really isn't and looks to be in the wrong forum.
Edit: taylor308 don't make any more accounts either. We aren't as dumb as you assume.
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Listen here pimpin, I'm sick and tired of you being so level headed. Stop preventing me from getting the popcorn out every time one of these threads are started.
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Listen here pimpin, I'm sick and tired of you being so level headed. Stop preventing me from getting the popcorn out every time one of these threads are started.
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Yeah. It's fun watching people on both sides of the argument get all butt hurt and feel the need to be Internet crusaders, righting all wrongs by the click of the mouse.
On a serious note, I do appreciate pstevep being willing to hear out both sides and explaining XDA's position when he really doesn't have to.
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As I've followed, the two sides are:
1) AAAAAARRRGHH! He's copying me!
and
2) AAAAAARGGHHH! He said I copied him!
I had arguments like this in kindergarten(which, coincidentally enough, stopped happening within a few years), and yet both sides have devout followers who will defend to the death their side of this rudimentary debate. By all means! Keep beating this dead horse, all ye faithful! It's bound to go somewhere eventually!
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Hey guys no offense or anything, but none of the founding guys at Team BAMF really gives a damn about anything anyone thinks. We are a group of friends who enjoy tinkering with stuff when time permits. We all have careers, hobbies, and most importantly families and lives.
What we do stand by is what we all think is the spirit of what Android represents. If Joelz or others loosely associated with Team BAMF did shady things as you suggest with phones/donations etc. then please show me. Too put it bluntly, we don't play that **** and neither does XDA. If that's the case, we will handle that real quick. We can't handle things we don't know about.
And the last thing.. I didn't read all the thread because to be honest it looked like a bunch of cry baby BS about five pages in, but not everyone wants 10000 of cherry picked features from the same three roms with a different name slapped on it. We don't operate on the premise that everyone will like us. People that have been around in the Android scene will know us and most likely have nice things to say. The ones that need their egos stroked and asses kissed will not. Regardless, BAMF's work is a hobby, and released only for the people who enjoy it, who we consider friends and fellow Android enthusiasts looking to stray away from the masses.
To the few in here defending, thanks for taking the time to get the facts. To the people here *****ing.. Feel free to carry on with your mindless bashing on an internet forum of people you don't even know, and who would most definitely put a boot in your ass in real life.. :good:
I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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Tis true. Making that first deodex stock rom was sickk. Hence why I support both parties. Bamf's name shouldn't be totally trashed because of only Joelz
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I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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Youre damned right you did more than he did, and yes I was there from day 1.
Thats partially where my distaste for him comes from, and thereby my distaste for BAMF because by not acting it gave the impression that they could give a **** about Joelz actions, as if they could care less that he was doing all that. Not saying that's the case, just the impression I was given, and still have since he is still a member, by the whole situation. The reason I am given that impression mainly is because I dont know how they haven't heard of this situation before, I thought there was another member of BAMF that posted with fair frequency on the threads on the S3 but I cannot remember for the life of me what his name was and may be wrong, and I dont know how they havent caught wind of it because it was a huge issue on the S3 forums and from what I understood it was on the rezound forums too. I know people can get busy and not have time to do everything they want or need to and that a lot of BAMF doesnt come to XDA because of the drama, on the same hand though the reason a lot of people dislike BAMF and the reason I have a terrible impression of the team is because of Joelz actions and how he was never reprimanded.
I also was given the impression that Joelz had more than a loose connection by how he and other spoke about his position in the team, he always talked how he was so high up in the team and was backed up.
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hopesrequiem said:
Tis true. Making that first deodex stock rom was sickk. Hence why I support both parties. Bamf's name shouldn't be totally trashed because of only Joelz
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Agreed but the reason a lot of people have bad opinions, and the reason I am put off by BAMF, is because their first interactions with BAMF was thru Joelz and his actions made the rest of the team look bad when he wasn't reprimanded.
Not saying its right, the impression I have gotten from the OP and adrynalyne is excellent, but thats the way humans read situations. If someone froma group does wrong while using the name of the group and isn't reprimanded or thrown out it looks bad.
I am not flaming BAMF with this post or any of my others, just to explain the reasoning behind the distaste that was caused by Joelz bad actions while using the BAMF name.
BTW I thought I recognized you from the S3 forums when I moved to the N2 but wasn't sure. Nice to see another name I recognize here!
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Hey guys no offense or anything, but none of the founding guys at Team BAMF really gives a damn about anything anyone thinks. We are a group of friends who enjoy tinkering with stuff when time permits. We all have careers, hobbies, and most importantly families and lives.
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You don't care what I think? /me cries :crying:
I miss you guys from my Rezound. It was always my go to Rom. Glad to see BAMF on the Note.
I'm excited to see the note with team Bamf! I don't know joelz and the whole situation. I know the original members from the thunderbolt and the Samsung Omnia back in winmo days.
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Im not quite understanding why people keep bring this up. Your beating a dead horse here! It has been a year since all the **** went down in the rezound forum, but yet it still keeps on coming up. I understand the animosity towards joelz in this forum, but quite honestly I couldnt give 2 ****s about it. Look, people donated, and he made a rom. Who is to say how many roms/updates are required to fulfill or payback for a donated device? As far as I know, there are no contacts here. I will say this, never in my day, has anyone come up to me and said "look, Ill buy you a welder if you do some work for me, and dont worry about a contact, I trust you." It doesnt work like that. I understand that majority of people on here are young and nieve to lifes bull****, but people need to move on and take this as a life lesson. I think mods should close down any donation threads on here to prevent any this from happening again. I like bamf, I think they put out a good product, as do the majority of the other devs on this forum. If joelz has done what everybody says he's done, it really shows his character and the mods should do something about it.
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Youre damned right you did more than he did, and yes I was there from day 1.
Thats partially where my distaste for him comes from, and thereby my distaste for BAMF because by not acting it gave the impression that they could give a **** about Joelz actions, as if they could care less that he was doing all that. Not saying that's the case, just the impression I was given, and still have since he is still a member, by the whole situation. The reason I am given that impression mainly is because I dont know how they haven't heard of this situation before, I thought there was another member of BAMF that posted with fair frequency on the threads on the S3 but I cannot remember for the life of me what his name was and may be wrong, and I dont know how they havent caught wind of it because it was a huge issue on the S3 forums and from what I understood it was on the rezound forums too. I know people can get busy and not have time to do everything they want or need to and that a lot of BAMF doesnt come to XDA because of the drama, on the same hand though the reason a lot of people dislike BAMF and the reason I have a terrible impression of the team is because of Joelz actions and how he was never reprimanded.
I also was given the impression that Joelz had more than a loose connection by how he and other spoke about his position in the team, he always talked how he was so high up in the team and was backed up.
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Agreed but the reason a lot of people have bad opinions, and the reason I am put off by BAMF, is because their first interactions with BAMF was thru Joelz and his actions made the rest of the team look bad when he wasn't reprimanded.
Not saying its right, the impression I have gotten from the OP and adrynalyne is excellent, but thats the way humans read situations. If someone froma group does wrong while using the name of the group and isn't reprimanded or thrown out it looks bad.
I am not flaming BAMF with this post or any of my others, just to explain the reasoning behind the distaste that was caused by Joelz bad actions while using the BAMF name.
BTW I thought I recognized you from the S3 forums when I moved to the N2 but wasn't sure. Nice to see another name I recognize here!
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Do you make assumptions like that in real life? None of us are his keeper. We are all grown men. He has always had different devices than me or the others. Again, show me some of what you are talking about. If these things are true, they will be handled because we don't play that ****.
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Do you make assumptions like that in real life? None of us are his keeper. We are all grown men. He has always had different devices than me or the others. Again, show me some of what you are talking about. If these things are true, they will be handled because we don't play that ****.
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Yes I actually do, im a grown man also and if I have a group and catch even the remotest wind that someone in my group is giving it a bad name I would research it until I found out the truth. Thats the way it goes in the real world, if someone is a member of your group and they misrepresent it then that goves the whole group a bad name when there are no reprimands.
As for researching it I am leaving it up to nosympathy for the time because last timr this discussion got brought up he had the threads from all the devices save where the only one I know how to find is the S3 thread. And honestly I dont know if the mods have deleted all the evidence yet or not, the deleted quite a bit of it while the conversation was in its prime. If nosympathy cant or doesnt want to look it up again I will look through the XDA post and see if there is anything left after the mods edited it.
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Im not quite understanding why people keep bring this up. Your beating a dead horse here! It has been a year since all the **** went down in the rezound forum, but yet it still keeps on coming up. I understand the animosity towards joelz in this forum, but quite honestly I couldnt give 2 ****s about it. Look, people donated, and he made a rom. Who is to say how many roms/updates are required to fulfill or payback for a donated device? As far as I know, there are no contacts here. I will say this, never in my day, has anyone come up to me and said "look, Ill buy you a welder if you do some work for me, and dont worry about a contact, I trust you." It doesnt work like that. I understand that majority of people on here are young and nieve to lifes bull****, but people need to move on and take this as a life lesson. I think mods should close down any donation threads on here to prevent any this from happening again. I like bamf, I think they put out a good product, as do the majority of the other devs on this forum. If joelz has done what everybody says he's done, it really shows his character and the mods should do something about it.
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I agree with you about donation threads, they shoulsnt be allowed at all anymore on XDA thanks to all the bad **** thats happened.
As for him not being reprimanded, that is because the mods were on his side because technically he did not break XDAs rules, which need to be adjusted to move on with the times, on the subject and because one of them was a fan of Joelz.
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Yes I actually do, im a grown man also and if I have a group and catch even the remotest wind that someone in my group is giving it a bad name I would research it until I found out the truth. Thats the way it goes in the real world, if someone is a member of your group and they misrepresent it then that goves the whole group a bad name when there are no reprimands.
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LOL. Like someone said above, he was given a phone and made a ROM for it. Did he promise to keep developing stuff for it? Did he lead people on? How the f do I know? I don't look through all the device threads on XDA. Do you paruse the RAZR threads? I sure as hell don't. Same with any other device I don't freaking have. You telling us is catching "The remotest wind".. Whatever that is. I will find out though. And after all this BS, it better be true and not some prima donna BS from some bored XDA members.
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LOL. Like someone said above, he was given a phone and made a ROM for it. Did he promise to keep developing stuff for it? Did he lead people on? How the f do I know? I don't look through all the device threads on XDA. Do you paruse the RAZR threads? I sure as hell don't. Same with any other device I don't freaking have. You telling us is catching "The remotest wind".. Whatever that is. I will find out though. And after all this BS, it better be true and not some prima donna BS from some bored XDA members.
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No I dont monitor them all the time but as big as this was I find it hard to believe that word did not reach you. And the problem isnt that he stopped devlopment for the rom he made, the problem is is that he tricked people into donating because they wanted BAMF on their phones and then he never delivered. Thats not even the biggest issue, thats something thay happens every day that I overlook, the worst part was when he tried to sell the goddamned device before he had put out anything. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions. That was wiped off the thread as soon as it was posted though, I used to have a screen shot of that but after 5 or 6 HDD wipes it is long long gone. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms against Joelz, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions.
As for him promising to keep developing for it, yes he did many many times.
What I have tried to say nicely is that I find it hard to believe that a lot of hardcore BAMF lovers that donsted didnt post or email or whatever someone on your website to get some of your attention. It may nit have happened but I still find it hard to believe. If I had any experience with BAMF before I would have emailed one of you immediately but as this was my first experience I had no clue about your website until way way later.
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No I dont monitor them all the time but as big as this was I find it hard to believe that word did not reach you. And the problem isnt that he stopped devlopment for the rom he made, the problem is is that he tricked people into donating because they wanted BAMF on their phones and then he never delivered. Thats not even the biggest issue, thats something thay happens every day that I overlook, the worst part was when he tried to sell the goddamned device before he had put out anything. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions. That was wiped off the thread as soon as it was posted though, I used to have a screen shot of that but after 5 or 6 HDD wipes it is long long gone. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms against Joelz, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions.
As for him promising to keep developing for it, yes he did many many times.
What I have tried to say nicely is that I find it hard to believe that a lot of hardcore BAMF lovers that donsted didnt post or email or whatever someone on your website to get some of your attention. It may nit have happened but I still find it hard to believe. If I had any experience with BAMF before I would have emailed one of you immediately but as this was my first experience I had no clue about your website until way way later.
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Nobody told us anything. That's why I find the whole thing far fetched. I just read the whole other thread about all this drama. Eris told you what the deal was. He's not a liar, and is a good friend. If he says Joel intentions were good and he did what he said he would do, then I have nothing further to add to the subject. None of us give a **** enough to lie. Show us something to the contrary about the situation and we can discuss further. Already wasted enough brain cells on these threads. Thanks for that.
So look, anyone who knows us, knows we update when we feel like it. It may take a week, it may take 4 months. Frankly, we don't care, because as Butch says, we do it for us. It's a happy bonus that we share with everyone else. Hell, Paradigm was 6 months late to the party on the Nexus, and it worked from day one there.
If you want to blame anyone for not having a ROM on the Rezound or the S3, you can blame me. I am the one that determines whether they are ready for prime time, and neither one is. Joel has worked his ass off, but hit a brick wall on a feature I deem rather important (in-call volume). That is literally the only thing that kept the S3 ROM from being released. And it's not for lack of trying, he just doesn't know C++(nor do I) well enough to fix the issues.
You don't believe he's still actively working on it? The proof is right there in front of you. His bitbucket handle is boss. You want a ROM so you can shut up about him stealing your damn donated phone? I'll build one tonight. And it will have broken in-call volume. Will that please everyone?
I mean really, Joelz is a good guy, but he's a kid. When I was his age I was trying to get drunk and laid, not build ROMs from hundreds of thousands of lines of indecipherable source code. Until you can build your own, how about everyone just stfu.
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Nobody told us anything. That's why I find the whole thing far fetched. I just read the whole other thread about all this drama. Eris told you what the deal was. He's not a liar, and is a good friend. If he says Joel intentions were good and he did what he said he would do, then I have nothing further to add to the subject. None of us give a **** enough to lie. Show us something to the contrary about the situation and we can discuss further. Already wasted enough brain cells on these thread. Thanks for that.
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Ah so youre locking the thread so no one else can reply? Im still looking for unedited screenshots of the conversations seeing as how all the threads are heavily editited. But you dont care you want to call people out and then lock the thread because otherwise you look as bad as Joelz for not reprimanding him.
And you dont believe it when there are 2 people that have a huge problem in the N2 thread, go post in the d2vzw thread and see what happens. You'll get the normal crazies but there are a lot of people there still burnt.
And Eris said he found it hard to believe and Joelz had offered the phone to him for development. Not saying he is lying just that he wasnt there when it happened so how can he know?
And from what I can tell from just a little looking through the threads trying to find a screenshot I see something about Butch with BAMF pulling a bait and switch on the X2, would that happen to be you?
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So look, anyone who knows us, knows we update when we feel like it. It may take a week, it may take 4 months. Frankly, we don't care, because as Butch says, we do it for us. It's a happy bonus that we share with everyone else. Hell, Paradigm was 6 months late to the party on the Nexus, and it worked from day one there.
If you want to blame anyone for not having a ROM on the Rezound or the S3, you can blame me. I am the one that determines whether they are ready for prime time, and neither one is. Joel has worked his ass off, but hit a brick wall on a feature I deem rather important (in-call volume). That is literally the only thing that kept the S3 ROM from being released. And it's not for lack of trying, he just doesn't know C++(nor do I) well enough to fix the issues.
You don't believe he's still actively working on it? The proof is right there in front of you. His bitbucket handle is boss. You want a ROM so you can shut up about him stealing your damn donated phone? I'll build one tonight. And it will have broken in-call volume. Will that please everyone?
I mean really, Joelz is a good guy, but he's a kid. When I was his age I was trying to get drunk and laid, not build ROMs from hundreds of thousands of lines of indecipherable source code. Until you can build your own, how about everyone just stfu.
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Ahh yes, the infamous AOSP rom. What about the BAMF rom that he used as his ticket to getting the phone?
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There you go.. Happy now? Can we all go back to playing around with Android? Geez.
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Ah so youre locking the thread so no one else can reply? Im still looking for unedited screenshots of the conversations seeing as how all the threads are heavily editited. But you dont care you want to call people out and then lock the thread because otherwise you look as bad as Joelz for not reprimanding him.
And you dont believe it when there are 2 people that have a huge problem in the N2 thread, go post in the d2vzw thread and see what happens. You'll get the normal crazies but there are a lot of people there still burnt.
And Eris said he found it hard to believe and Joelz had offered the phone to him for development. Not saying he is lying just that he wasnt there when it happened so how can he know?
And from what I can tell from just a little looking through the threads trying to find a screenshot I see something about Butch with BAMF pulling a bait and switch on the X2, would that happen to be you?
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Ahh yes, the infamous AOSP rom. What about the BAMF rom that he used as his ticket to getting the phone?
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BAMF Paradigm was his ticket to the phone. Which is AOSP.
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thatdudebutch said:
There you go.. Happy now? Can we all go back to playing around with Android? Geez.
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Don't worry, im done talking to you. I was looking for proof until I came across that little tidbit about you on the X2, now I know no matter how much proof we show you you still wont do anything. I am not going to waste my breath or my time on you or your team anymore, no matter what happens you wont so anything. I have better things to do with my time than trying to prove something to a person that obviously doesn't give a ****.
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erishasnobattery said:
BAMF Paradigm was his ticket to the phone. Which is AOSP.
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Forgive me, seeing as how it is not BAMF Paradigm that has been posted but pure AOSP. From what o understand Paradigm has a few of BAMFs tweak and mods in it and what Joelz put out to begin with was nothing but AOSP without BAMFs tweaks.
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shangrila500 said:
Don't worry, im done talking to you. I was looking for proof until I came across that little tidbit about you on the X2, now I know no matter how much proof we show you you still wont do anything. I am not going to waste my breath or my time on you or your team anymore, no matter what happens you wont so anything. I have better things to do with my time than trying to prove something to a person that obviously doesn't give a ****.
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LOL. What because I decided blur was a horrible idea to mod, so by a show of hands we decided to contribute the device to CM so they could at least get those guys an AOSP ROM? You decide to "give up" on talking about it once Eris shows you proof. And to think I wasted time trying to understand your "problem." The problem is you. Don't worry, take your self serving holier than though attitude over to Rootzwiki with all the other cool teenagers. While you are at it put on your unicorn shirt, talk more ****, and contribute nothing to anything, which is apparent by a quick check of your profile.
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You've been here three years and never once CONTRIBUTED. Every thread is you asking for something. Locking this garbage thread now, since everything you touch seems to smell like ****. Have a good weekend.
My experiences with this phone are bitter sweet for the most part. Any bad taste Ive had with this device has without a doubt been brought on by myself or indirectly by a thread Ive read that developes, or should I say continues a "Will this", or "Can I" theme for the length of the thread. Not the devices fault or mine but it does bitter things for me
I must say that I have 2, this is the third posting, total in XDA for me, and I have flashed safe to say almost everything in the ATT LGOG portion of this portal. Nightlys, I will say every other release of Everyone that devs this device. Ive been inconvenienced a time or two by havin to reflash wipe flash install blah blah from bad file upload downloads. setups I can almost do with eyes closed, those get old. I have a point I wanna make and Ill get to it in a bit.Ive lgnpst this phone a hundred times and Ive even had the mispleasure once of having to send my phone to those wonderful bastards at mobile tech videos for a JTAG. Hells core kernel and a good buzz on made that necessary. If I woulda not been such a FLASH crackhead as I am with anything like this, and just read pages initialy, it probably wouldn't have helped anyways cuz Im like that
Heres how it goes; dev works tirelessly, life has its priority, but love for dev gets it done, DEV posts new thread introducing his offerings and any findings to further the DEV of his offering. questions questions KUDOs Kudos , u the man tytyty. thread starts to turn into something useful from postbacks on breaks and things that work and don't work, ETC.... Rom stabilizes further. How it LOOKS and appears; half of this community has entitlement issues and a problem with using GOOGLE SEARCH. U want something outta this then offer something other than 200 pages of questions about **** that OP has already posted and answered and fixed, for me to scroll through to find my solution. U DEVS (most) are overworked and get little return other than patts on the back and the semi-occasional paypal donations I guarantee arent the motivating factor for your part in this.
I have 3 posts people and 2 of them were questioning community and not DEV.
I promise I have had more downtime from this phone than 85 to 90 percent of you from overzealous under educated leap without looking actions on my part. I have a sickness and cant help myself. that said, that sickness motivates me to figure it out for myself and GOOGLE info that IS available. People that do google also end up havin to comb pages of peoples posts that could have searched for them selves but WONT. cuz its easier, lazy.
If you dont understand what Im saying then u didnt read and you are terminaly doomed to be that way. Which, in turn becomes my problem again eventually.
People who get it , GET IT! the reason I feel i have to rant is annoying to me, but thats my mood at the moment. annoyed and loosing faith in the common mans common sense. I have common sense, choose not too engage it at key moments, but I dont not use it at someone elses expense.
TY 4 letting me post my mumbleings, and enduring my incorrect sentence structures, punctuation, grammar, and most of all to the people that matter and contribute by not contributing garbage
Thank You! :good::highfive:
I'm sorry you just now are starting to lose faith in the common man's common sense. Human intelligence is on a bell curve with an iq of 100 being the median. 65 and below is retarded, 25 and below is a vegetable. That should let you know that half of folks are below average intelligence. Remember this when you see something retarded online or in your real life, and learn to gloss over the cornucopia of retardation that litters the Internet and the regular world.
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Were you high when you posted this?
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Jakeroxs said:
Were you high when you posted this?
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Man, just glancing over your post history and you're the exact person OP complains about ...the irony is too strong with this one
peaceburn said:
Man, just glancing over your post history and you're the exact person OP complains about ...the irony is too strong with this one
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You think so?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169485
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Seriously?
Phew.... caught myself
Edit, im adding to my own complaints