Everybody needs to learn some etiquette when challenging somebodies work.
Have indesputible proof before you flame them.
People are people and we forget thing. PM the dev and ask for credit if credit is due, before you flame them.
Stop being cry babies and driving our devs away.
I have never seen so much drama in a dev community before. You are all babies and should be ashamed. Are you all 12 or do we have any adults here?
I am working on my first rom which I am heavily thinking about keeping for my self.......
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This post is just uncalled for honestly to say you all is quite a broad stroke statement. One which i take great offense to if you feel the need to call folks babies then turn around and say your working on a rom but may keep it to yourself well i say to you that is the pot calling the kettle black aint it. If ur gonna dev do it if not that is fine no one here twists your arms. In future trolls of these forums maybe you can think about your wording prior to just putting a bunch of nonsensical stuff down.
is that what happens when you Google translate before posting? Lol
colonel187 said:
Everybody needs to learn some educate when challenging somebodies work.
Have indesputible proof before you flame them.
People are people and we forget thing. PM the dev and ask for credit if credit is due, before you flame them.
Stop being cry babies and driving our devs away.
I have never seen so much drama in a dev community before. You are all babies and should be ashamed. Are you all 12 or do we have any adults here?
I am working on my first rom which I am heavily thinking about keeping for my self.......
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Why fight at all? We are all here to learn from each other, we all use the same phone, and we all have the same purpose; make our X2's better devices.
If 0vermind leaves XDA we have will have lost a great dev... for nothing.
i agree, this is a COMMUNITY people are supposed to help each other and unite for one purpose to tweak a peice of technology, it really sucks how that guy got totally rammed. Its to the point where people are afraid to even ask questions before spending days searching everyone should just help each other. I think that was crazy and everyone needs to take a step back and re-evaluate your purpose for being here, why fight with each other? Aren't we all adults here?
Tissues. Anybody need tissues?
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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I voided my warranty and your mum.
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Thats pretty funny...off subject
Just read the speedy Gonzales thread and this is seriously getting out of hand. Why don't we all just work together to better our phones? We went from a handful of roms to one and a few script options to...one...
In other news I took a sh*t today. Props to J. F. Brondel (1738) for inventing the valved flush toilet and Joseph Gayetty (1857) for inventing toilet paper. Also to Al Gore for inventing water. Props also to the McDonald brothers for innovating the hamburger originally offered at Delmonicos in New York, 1826. You'll find traces of it in my finished product. I hope I don't get flamed.
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Just read the speedy Gonzales thread and this is seriously getting out of hand. Why don't we all just work together to better our phones? We went from a handful of roms to one and a few script options to...one...
In other news I took a sh*t today. Props to J. F. Brondel (1738) for inventing the valved flush toilet and Joseph Gayetty (1857) for inventing toilet paper. Also to Al Gore for inventing water. Props also to the McDonald brothers for innovating the hamburger originally offered at Delmonicos in New York, 1826. You'll find traces of it in my finished product. I hope I don't get flamed.
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Rofl. That's great.
3UR0TR45H said:
Just read the speedy Gonzales thread and this is seriously getting out of hand. Why don't we all just work together to better our phones? We went from a handful of roms to one and a few script options to...one...
In other news I took a sh*t today. Props to J. F. Brondel (1738) for inventing the valved flush toilet and Joseph Gayetty (1857) for inventing toilet paper. Also to Al Gore for inventing water. Props also to the McDonald brothers for innovating the hamburger originally offered at Delmonicos in New York, 1826. You'll find traces of it in my finished product. I hope I don't get flamed.
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It just boils down to people not giving credit. 0vermind didn't mention Zep once, but he did list his tweaks.
I think some other developers are just sick of kanging and not getting credit. If I was a developer and someone took my stuff, didn't give me credit - I'd be ticked off too.
True. I see the point, but nobody is financially involved and the community is trying to get off the ground. Lets work together and improve on each other.
There are a few dozen people out there running my themes but they do they highlight their screenshots with my name when they post? Do I care?
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Just read the speedy Gonzales thread and this is seriously getting out of hand. Why don't we all just work together to better our phones? We went from a handful of roms to one and a few script options to...one...
In other news I took a sh*t today. Props to J. F. Brondel (1738) for inventing the valved flush toilet and Joseph Gayetty (1857) for inventing toilet paper. Also to Al Gore for inventing water. Props also to the McDonald brothers for innovating the hamburger originally offered at Delmonicos in New York, 1826. You'll find traces of it in my finished product. I hope I don't get flamed.
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LOL! But seriously, isn't there something more productive to do than to snipe at each other? I think everyone would agree that kanging someone's work is fundamentally wrong & ethically reprehensible. It's just bad form & it violates the integrity of this forum & its rules of order. Its bad practice that yields bad returns & promotes bad atmosphere. Which is exactly what this forum doesn't need. It wasn't so long ago that xda was THE forum & THE resource for innovation & creativity because of its contributors and participants. Now, all of that has changed. Why? And what can we do about it? Is the real answer to get smaller but purer? Or can there be a way to confront issues before they ignite publicly?
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3UR0TR45H said:
Just read the speedy Gonzales thread and this is seriously getting out of hand. Why don't we all just work together to better our phones? We went from a handful of roms to one and a few script options to...one...
In other news I took a sh*t today. Props to J. F. Brondel (1738) for inventing the valved flush toilet and Joseph Gayetty (1857) for inventing toilet paper. Also to Al Gore for inventing water. Props also to the McDonald brothers for innovating the hamburger originally offered at Delmonicos in New York, 1826. You'll find traces of it in my finished product. I hope I don't get flamed.
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The modern toilet pollutes the environment. For real. Check it out.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
STFU!!!!!!!!!!
If I use your work and dont credit you...............
tell me and i will give you credit
Or revert to being 6 and calling me names and dissing me because obviously ur drunk and have nothing else to do but stroke yourself.
the problem is that once u push me to leaving the phone alone because of ur less than stellar response, now its just u left to figure out everything for everyone that WE'VE left waiting for any kind of development.
U lose a colleague that could potentially help u reinvent the wheel
U are "kanging" a (insert derogatory term here) move just to tell someone in ur everyday life that doesn't even care about ur developing talents that someone is stealing from u
Then u get worked up over it and they laugh at u.
Soooooooooooo. Instead of meeting a new teammate u willingly push urself deeper into the (insert derogatory term here) category
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STFU!!!!!!!!!!
If I use your work and dont credit you...............
tell me and i will give you credit
Or revert to being 6 and calling me names and dissing me because obviously ur drunk and have nothing else to do but stroke yourself.
the problem is that once u push me to leaving the phone alone because of ur less than stellar response, now its just u left to figure out everything for everyone that WE'VE left waiting for any kind of development.
U lose a colleague that could potentially help u reinvent the wheel
U are "kanging" a (insert derogatory term here) move just to tell someone in ur everyday life that doesn't even care about ur developing talents that someone is stealing from u
Then u get worked up over it and they laugh at u.
Soooooooooooo. Instead of meeting a new teammate u willingly push urself deeper into the (insert derogatory term here) category
This is a "sensible" response from (Insert developer name here) to lil' (Insert developer name here)
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Dude. Lay off the 'roids.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
no roids just droids..........
ahhh u like that hah?
It's unfortunate, to say the least. At the end of the day most devs don't credit Google, and as we all know w/out their OS none of this is possible. I'm just a simple member that loves all the devs contributions; isn't the choices what Android is all about? These forums are becoming monopolized by certain devs. It's obvious, but if they feel credit is due, as it should be, then go about it w/ PM's. Don't go blasting them publicly. Personally, I want to enjoy all possible mods, hacks, ROMS, and so on w/out reading a flame war... I digress. Thank you to the devs who have been able to do what they do for me..for us the community.
And to the OP, don't keep that ROM to yourself. Share with the community in an attempt to better it!! Good day.
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Like everyone is saying...its not crazy he built his own scripts by tearing apart others and rebuilding them to his needs and wants he said it was a 6 month project and i think he mentioned that he took stuff from all over the place like everyone does in this GNU open-source linux community and made it his own, he probably forgot were everything came from. I know when im building a php or asp website with lots of scripts that takes me a couple of months to get just the way i like it god knows i couldn't tell you where i got all the code from you just google copy n paste try try try till it works. He said he used other peoples codes he gave reference to the init.d script and gave credit to that dev, that was just rude and totally un called for. I know that people are using my coding from php in there sites and my WP-plugins without giving me credit...its cool sometimes they float me a couple bucks rarely but whatever if you really want to throw a fit then open source GNU homebrew isn't a good place for some people unfortunetly. He seemed so excited to get his work out there you should know how that feels after so much work done and nobody knowing anything, like i do all this crazy coding and i show my wife some stupid javascript contact form that i worked really hard on and she doesn't know all that went into it and just says "it looks nice" he posted that so people could appreciate his work and he got raped. Sorry long rant but this whole thing was bad.
Ok im done with this subject...
"Can't we all just get along?" <-- Rodney King/Reginald Denny Incident, March 3, 1991...via Wikipedia
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Like everyone is saying...its not crazy he built his own scripts by tearing apart others and rebuilding them to his needs and wants he said it was a 6 month project and i think he mentioned that he took stuff from all over the place like everyone does in this GNU open-source linux community and made it his own, he probably forgot were everything came from. I know when im building a php or asp website with lots of scripts that takes me a couple of months to get just the way i like it god knows i couldn't tell you where i got all the code from you just google copy n paste try try try till it works. He said he used other peoples codes he gave reference to the init.d script and gave credit to that dev, that was just rude and totally un called for. I know that people are using my coding from php in there sites and my WP-plugins without giving me credit...its cool sometimes they float me a couple bucks rarely but whatever if you really want to throw a fit then open source GNU homebrew isn't a good place for some people unfortunetly. He seemed so excited to get his work out there you should know how that feels after so much work done and nobody knowing anything, like i do all this crazy coding and i show my wife some stupid javascript contact form that i worked really hard on and she doesn't know all that went into it and just says "it looks nice" he posted that so people could appreciate his work and he got raped. Sorry long rant but this whole thing was bad.
Ok im done with this subject...
"Can't we all just get along?" <-- Rodney King/Reginald Denny Incident, March 3, 1991...via Wikipedia
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You said it perfectly. I was trying to write something similar. When I need a piece of code to do xyz I search for it until I find something that gets it done and then move on to the next line of code. I wouldn't sit there and document everything.
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First things first thanks development gurus for all your amazing efforts. Now that being said and this is actually more of an observation on the "community " as a whole...
The flame wars and the bickering acomplish nothing. There's a saying "together we all accomplish more." So why not source share across the board? It is supposedly an open platform right? Give appropriate dues and together who know what's possible. I don't think anyone is trying to take anyone's lime light. There may have been some inadvertent slips where credit wasn't given. I don't think it was malicious though.
I just wanted to say this because all of this petty back and forth takes away from the development (which is the basis of the community ). And for those just looking for drama seek it elsewhere please. It serves no purpose here.
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Chris
It's a nice thought but the devs are a strange breed and some require all the attention so they can feel good. People like drama and devs are just as bad as teenage girls.
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It's a nice thought but the devs are a strange breed and some require all the attention so they can feel good. People like drama and devs are just as bad as teenage girls.
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Now if they WERE teenage girls our dreams could come true...
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It's a nice thought but the devs are a strange breed and some require all the attention so they can feel good. People like drama and devs are just as bad as teenage girls.
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The ones who act like little girls are the noobs that need spoon-feeding and don't get it, and the old bats who don't understand the process, like you
I'll admit, when I release a new update of ZenEXP-Eris and people enjoy it, it makes me feel good, but I don't do it to get my rocks off, pal.
-mak
PS: Please PM correspondence to my reply, I don't check General often..
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First things first thanks development gurus for all your amazing efforts. Now that being said and this is actually more of an observation on the "community " as a whole...
The flame wars and the bickering acomplish nothing. There's a saying "together we all accomplish more." So why not source share across the board? It is supposedly an open platform right? Give appropriate dues and together who know what's possible. I don't think anyone is trying to take anyone's lime light. There may have been some inadvertent slips where credit wasn't given. I don't think it was malicious though.
I just wanted to say this because all of this petty back and forth takes away from the development (which is the basis of the community ). And for those just looking for drama seek it elsewhere please. It serves no purpose here.
Respectfully,
Chris
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Agreed. I haven't even been here that long and I've seen it go down hill ever since we got root and a lot of ROMs started coming out. Can't we just go back to the way it was and all get along?
Now that HTC made their announcement a couple of weeks ago, we have an actual ETA on the unlocked bootloader. That said, as we all know, it'll be a month or two before this goes into effect. I know that many people (myself included) jumped to the EVO 3D because of the spectacular dev support that the 4G received, hoping that the 3D would get similar support on even better hardware. I think there were many people disappointed in HTC regarding the bootloader and how long it took them to unlock it (and awesomely impressed with dev temp-root workarounds!), and I certainly wouldn't blame developers for jumping ship to another device due to impatience with HTC. Of course, if devs go, there will the people follow.
My question to the devs is that now that we're reaching the deadline of the 30 day exchange policy and with rumors of the Galaxy 2 II on the horizon, are you going to be sticking with the EVO3D or returning it to develop for another phone?
I ask not to call anyone out, but out of sheer curiosity and self-interest. As awesome as this phone is, I want to go with the phone that is going to get the most development, and I know I'm not alone in that regard.
Thanks for your time!
Personally I don't care. But you're going get flamed by some "Obese and Ugly" Super Nerd that has some kind of Napolean Complex and feels the need to tell you that this post is in the wrong section. He thinks he's doing XDA and the "interwebz" a service and also speculates daily that he's important on some grand level.
All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
I've jumped ship. I'll never purchase another HTC phone, they can shove them up their ass, lock their bootloaders and masterbate on the code as it prints out from their ****** iMac and MacBook Pro's.
..sigh.
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All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
..sigh.
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I would agree with this statement.
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I would agree with this statement.
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Sad but true .. all I want is to be able to tether
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
No one, just a bunch of morons talking out there ass
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
Really guys, is too soon to jump out the ship, we gotta be patience, I believe on the EVO3D dev team!
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I don't think any devs have jumped ship, theirs just no reason to develop anything right now. The only thing we have right now is temp root and that has been developed into something far beyond what it started off as.And not to forget the all the skins, unrooted rosie mods, overclocking and everyone behind the scenes working on trying to crack the bootloader with the little there is to work with. For now the 3D is a great example of the saying- when life throws you lemons... And when one of the outstanding Devs here squeezes the juice out of the locked bootloader we will have us one fine lemonade stand.
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
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Sorry, fixed the link. I was trying to do it from my phone, and it defaulted to mobile twitter.
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I would agree with this statement.
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I wouldn't at all (even though we really aren't have a "Dev" discussion right now), I hardly see how anyone can say "HE" killed dev for our device. I don't think the dev is dead at all, hell, he tried to keep all the BS and stupid questions out of the Dev section. I personally think that the fact there has been a min post count rule implemented across the dev forums speaks volumes to and shows that people do need to read and respect the a) section and b) OP when posting in a thread, well.... lets say posting HTC rants in a thread dedicated to our temp root solution.
"He" may have been a bit slow to reopen the thread (in our section) that he was basically forced to police because of morons that can't read or comprehend just what a dev thread is for, but that hardly constitutes making the "Dev being dead, over and out". Said morons and illiterates actually drove the dev's to IRC, away from the public forum where they started and hoped to collect ideas and garner more support from the masses on the development work.
I would like to hear a dev say "he" killed their work on this device... sounds like crazy talk to me from some impatient users.
I won't be jumping ship (speaking as veteran flash addict and avid Dev supporter), we'll have our perm root one way or another. I am just surprised to see people acting so butt hurt over what is going on, a month out of the gate.
Now that, is some sad shhhht to sigh about...
Oh, and... IBTL
I hope allot of the 4g devs do make a appearance, I personally think most of them are the best there is. I believe we picked up a bunch of hero guys too, there's a whole lot of exceptional talent in that group too. I think once we get full root, theres going to be some real awesume stuff pop up overnight in this forum,
I do have to say the ones that are here now are going a great job and putting out a lot of badass stuff considering all most of them have to work with is teamwin's temp root.
/.....
So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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I heard deck, myn, and virus are aboard. I know fresh is. I am sure many other are. I also believe the dev responsible for the kernal for cm7 is aboard to. What is his name? Man bugging me now....
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So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
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I think that's pretty much where I'm at, just sitting tight. I found myself in the unfortunate spot of getting a 3D with a touchscreen issue, and I'm between doing a 30 day return or exchange. I think more than likely I'll end up keeping it (the thing is a beast), and it's good to know that there's other people sticking around
I think we should all jump ship and give up, after all that's why we're here, at xda developers. Also, this piece of junk unmatched phone had been out for a crazy long 37 days, what with no root... WTF. And that damn mod... Keeping morons with big mouths out of dev threads, what a douche, we should just let everyone say and do what they want in here. That way we could read more. I hope a mod closes this thread and bans the OP for a month, for fun (because this awesome development is... A question). Member since 08 ... Get some email addresses or follow them on Twitter, or pm them, or find them in webchat, that's how you talk to a dev.
BANG! from my shooter...
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You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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Good point. I did generalize by saying "devs" but I definitely meant both. ROMs are one of the best reasons to root. Looking forward to getting some CM, kushdeck, and MIUI on this bad boy, not to mention the host of awesome Sense developers like Myn, Virus, and Ava. From most responses, it seems like we don't have too much to worry about. As far as CM and MIUI are concerned, if demand is high enough, there'll either be an official release or at the very least a port, since they're community projects.
Was looking through the development forum and noticed that SteelRom was missing. Replaced with CLOSED.
the thread is locked now, as is all the other thread SteelH posted for the Evo3D. Looks like he just up and left!
Over on the former SteelRom thread is some back and forth between Virus, TrevE,Freeza, etc and claims of Synergy "kanging" the Zeus Mod and how Steel, Kushdeck and others ported it properly and such.
So..... WTF? We just got S OFF not too long ago and there is already in fighting?
Where is a pic of Rodney King when you need it?
I seen virus and kush kinda going at it the other day, didn't know steel was in that little spat also.
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I seen virus and kush kinda going at it the other day, didn't know steel was in that little spat also.
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Yeah. He totally closed up shop, pulled all links and such.
This all seems kindof ridiculous over a mod. We seriously going to lose a Dev over it? The Evo3D forums just seek WAY more brutal than the 4G forums did...or am I being naive?
Yeah looks that way for now at least.
I for one surely hope he didn't as he did a great mod and was a very valuable dev here as he took the time to teach and show exactly the code for a lot of the mods like the beats audio and others he put up in the other section.
Seemed like there was possibly some missunderstanding on both sides and all after reading all the posts. One side says SteelH used their already moded apk and he and others tweaked it with no credit, and the other side seems to be saying they didn't. OR least they didn't know it was from synergy b/c they didn't directly pull it from it to begin with as they got it elsewhere.
Some ppl didn't like the kang reference in Steel's OP but i didn't see much prob with it. way it was worded was saying to steal this(use this).
in the thread both sides(Treve, virus, frezza,etc..) seemed very polite though, with exception to other users that posted in there which had zero business doing so, as all they were doing was starting crap.
Really hope he comes back as its a shame this turned into what it did. Dev's dont need to be fighting with one another period. Leave that to the Apple iOS folk.
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Yeah. He totally closed up shop, pulled all links and such.
This all seems kindof ridiculous over a mod. We seriously going to lose a Dev over it? The Evo3D forums just seek WAY more brutal than the 4G forums did...or am I being naive?
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no, not naive. but i dont think it's just here. there are some new jackasses in the 4g forums as well. i asked a question over there a few weeks back because i wanted a quick answer and some dickwad was trying to call me out on being a "noob." clearly he did not have a clue. i had basically stumbled upon a way to temp root GB on my old 4g (at least my phone anyway and before the current method) of which i had purposely s-on'd and installed the latest RUU, but i was told that it was not possible and that i was stupid for even asking and so i decided not to share what i had done. granted it probably wouldnt have worked for everyone but im sure it would have for a few.
it seems as if everyone knows more that everyone else now-a-days i guess.
but back on topic...............who cares who "kanged" what, it's android, it's all open source. either way, these devs know when they are using someone elses stuff. give them credit. i use other people stuff in my roms. why? because i can't code. sure, i know some basics and can smali/bak-smali and edit a few lines but that doesn't mean i can code. if it weren't for the people who can, i wouldn't have a clue as to what to edit.
I wanted to add beats mod to xHausx rom for a friend...search for it, got the link..CLOSED..damn..other mods closed as well from him. Now, we had all those mods..gone.
why take out the mods? It's a shame...
If you're reading this SteelH, don't let some jacka$$e$ run you off man. F*ck them. You've got a loyal following and we'd hate to see you go over something like this.
Theres a huge fight with Kush, virus, treve, steelh and freeza about stolen code. XDA has fallen.
Free Dirk!!!
Its not like were talkin about something he took and didnt touch himself and took credit for here. if the apk they were given to start already had some of zig's work and they didn't know it then okay, misunderstanding, issue done and just make a simple note of such, end of story.
Its not like hes pulling some kingklick crap.
This is SteelH were tlakin bout, this guy contributes a ton to the community much more past the basic rom. Posting the actual code and changes for specific mods detailed out is a giant help for new devs and even old ones that didn't know.
Both sides do some amazing work and their own thing, its time to squash the beef and get SteelH back as this petty crap aint worth it.
;-(
What happened to XDA? I have been here for a long time. Ever since I got my first G1. I wouldn't hesitate to say I am addicted. Always learning new stuff. Making my phones do stuff they were never intended to do. My only complaint I used to have was when ever you had a problem, before a dev would reply with something useful it was "WHERE'S YOUR LOGCAT?!?" Now no one asks for a LOGCAT. Seems its either some ungrateful whiney brat that's demanding something be done, that said person couldn't accomplish on their own. Or a bunch of fighting about this or that or another. I don't know about any one else, but who gives a crap? I am not trying to be cool, hell I'm a nerd... thats why I am here. Don't get me wrong. There are devs on here that make me do nasty nerd stuff to myself ;-). Every time I start to get my rhythm we seem to loose another dev. If we loose the devs then this site is pointless. Please people, can't we go back to being happy little nerds?
What happened to XDA? It became popular.
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Its not like were talkin about something he took and didnt touch himself and took credit for here. if the apk they were given to start already had some of zig's work and they didn't know it then okay, misunderstanding, issue done and just make a simple note of such, end of story.
Its not like hes pulling some kingklick crap.
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Omg. KingKlick. LOL
I remember loving his kernels for a while. Having him keep asking for donations to buy an evo to do kernels properly. And then turns around and buys a Vibrant or some crap and claiming "I didn't use the donation money, duh" and having all his little followers defend him. I never used anything he made again, a month later he was banned. Hahaha.
I cant lie. The Evo 4G forums were known for bull****, but now the 3D forums take the cake. We're the worst on XDA because we have the assholes. Period.
Free Dirk!!!
I dont even see steelH and freeza on irc.
Smh.
Free Dirk!!!
I dont understand all this crap. People kang other peoples stuff all the time. That is what a rom is practically. Tweaked this(dev A did), tweaked that(dev B did), etc., add it all together and you get a rom. Zip align was a script that some dev came up with and now everbody uses it, same with deodex, same with ram scripts, etc. I had an Epic before, and one person tweaked code to add lockscreen, next thing you know everbody was using it. Think about how all this crap is done....I use apkmanager and xultimate to decompile, edit, deodex etc. Nobody every gives the creators of those tools credit anymore. Pardon me if I am wrong in anything that I have said.
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I dont understand all this crap. People kang other peoples stuff all the time. That is what a rom is practically. Tweaked this(dev A did), tweaked that(dev B did), etc., add it all together and you get a rom. Zip align was a script that some dev came up with and now everbody uses it, same with deodex, same with ram scripts, etc. I had an Epic before, and one person tweaked code to add lockscreen, next thing you know everbody was using it. Think about how all this crap is done....I use apkmanager and xultimate to decompile, edit, deodex etc. Nobody every gives the creators of those tools credit anymore. Pardon me if I am wrong in anything that I have said.
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right...the point behind android is...ITS OPEN SOURCED!!!! So even if you modify the code...the code still belongs to Google! These devs need to quit being effin babies and give credit where credit is due and keep it moving.
Credit should be given where credit is due and I hope Steel comes back. If ANY Developer happens to read this ... word of advice:
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER PM THEM ABOUT IT DONT TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS. THE FORUMS ARE FULL OF INCITING USERS THAT WILL MAKE THE SITUATION TWO HUNDRED TIMES WORSE.
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Credit should be given where credit is due and I hope Steel comes back. If ANY Developer happens to read this ... word of advice:
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER PM THEM ABOUT IT DONT TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS. THE FORUMS ARE FULL OF INCITING USERS THAT WILL MAKE THE SITUATION TWO HUNDRED TIMES WORSE.
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Anonamoose said:
Credit should be given where credit is due and I hope Steel comes back. If ANY Developer happens to read this ... word of advice:
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER PM THEM ABOUT IT DONT TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS. THE FORUMS ARE FULL OF INCITING USERS THAT WILL MAKE THE SITUATION TWO HUNDRED TIMES WORSE.
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Attempts are being made.
I'm a little disappointed to see that Chris jumped to iPhone and won't be creating a Sprint Lover's ROM for my EVO 3D. Looks like I need to learn how to build ROMs now.
Let's clean this up a bit, shall we?
I get the impression sometimes that we (speaking about everybody here in the 3D forums recently) make this place sort of "unfriendly" with sarcasm and troll posts, rudeness when people post in the wrong section, create duplicate threads, so on and so forth...
First of all, I will say that I am fully aware of my own contribution to this, lol. BUT... i was thinking earlier about when I started out over on SDX and how friendly and eager people were to help me when I was new to the android/Linux scene (although I still had somewhat of a basic understanding of it because of my knowledge of windows, Linux and especially android was a new world to me and much of the knowledge I have picked up since then was simply because people were so willing to offer help and their own knowledge - regardless of "noob" questions (when I simply could have used a search button).
Yeah, for whatever reason you just want to punch people through the computer sometimes when they post in the wrong section or make "hAlp my phonez is teh broken" threads that can easily be fixed with some searching around. But I think we should try to be a little bit more of a friendly and tolerant (and therefore tolerable... ironically) of the things that go on around here.
Anyways, just some dumb ass rant post. But I thought I would share this thought because I feel the action of it could be a positive thing around here.
oouuut.
So, I will be nicer to people. Let's all try this, shall we?
except for freeza.... i am still trolling you.... on a regular basis. lulz
Cool story bro
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Cool story bro
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I think that's exact reason why the op posted this thread,childish stuff like that.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
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XDA has become /b/
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bloodrain954 said:
Cool story bro
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lol... touchè
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l000000000l as a youngster I used to be the lookout ;-)
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Would be a change of pace. A nice one. Maybe this should be some sort of pledge to help teh n00bz.
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Yes,I'm one of the sorry trolls you are talking about
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In the Netherlands we always say: there no such thing as a stupid question but only stupid answers.
You hit the nail right ok the head. I joined
XDA almost a year ago and everyone was very helpful. I learned a lot. Now its a lot of people b***ing about stupid things like a devs work or a question they they have decided is "dumb".
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that since there's been a flood of Android phones hitting the market over the last year and a half or so, there's also a flood of people who come with it. They buy a new Android device, hear about 'rooting' and jump on here. Not everyone knows the meaning of respect, and they expect things to just be handed to them. There's definitely more idiots on here than before, but also just more people overall. No matter where you go, the more people around, the more idiots there will be. It's unfortunate indeed.
I try to be helpful, but it's definitely aggravating when someone just flat out doesn't read a damn thing, and asks a question that's clearly typed in the OP. When I joined, I didn't know ANYTHING about rooting, ROMs, etc. but I read a few things and learned.
There are a few forums that I use that have a n00b section with zero intolerance for the replies to questions in said sub-forum, maybe that would be nice, then we can segregate the n00bs and flame more well-known users for asking stupid things. Lol
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I used to get on here several times a day, reading these forums, but it took me a long time to actually register because the few immature people that start a fight in the thread made it look irritating. Like whoever posted in the recent ICS thread about how the OP was information from another thread, even though the OP was several pages long.
Who cares? It's something else to read. That's why most of us are here, for some form of entertainment.
n00bs != newbies
Newbies don't know things and after TRYING to figure it out themselves, they have ended up, seeking answers for uncommon situations. This is OK.
n00bs, on the other hand, don't know ****, they don't give a crap about learning and expecting from others to give all the answers on a gold plate without moving a finger on their foot. This is not OK.
The sooner pseudomoralistic idiots realize this, the sooner will be this place be as it used to be before. If not, I'll continue to troll n00bs for my own amusement and you can kiss my shiny ass.
'Nuff said.
Every time I see someone say "cool story bro" I add them to my ignore list. Just added another..
That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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n00bs != newbies
Newbies don't know things and after TRYING to figure it out themselves, they have ended up, seeking answers for uncommon situations. This is OK.
n00bs, on the other hand, don't know ****, they don't give a crap about learning and expecting from others to give all the answers on a gold plate without moving a finger on their foot. This is not OK.
The sooner pseudomoralistic idiots realize this, the sooner will be this place be as it used to be before. If not, I'll continue to troll n00bs for my own amusement and you can kiss my shiny ass.
'Nuff said.
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Yes, the "an answer is easily found by a very fast google search but I'm too lazy to do it or just expect you tell me" crowd is the problem I agree. Even if they are not the majority, when I see a new thread or question that seems like an easy find, I get really mad because I had to take the time to learn and search on my own. I've been on here since 2006 and I guess because of all the new androids out there you get people who are not technologically inclined trying to do technicological things.
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That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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However, I agree it has gotten out of control, and the mods are unwilling or unable to do anything about the newbs or the a%*holes that are attacking devs when they know nothing about any of this development stuff.
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except for freeza.... i am still trolling you.... on a regular basis. lulz
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^^^ most important part of your OP...
:sidenote: your like the XDA ghandi >>
"be the change"
/trollio
EDIT: I applied to be a mod (again) - and I'm all about reducing the jackassery around here. If accepted, I'll do what I can
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Every time I see someone say "cool story bro" I add them to my ignore list. Just added another..
That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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Yes, the "an answer is easily found by a very fast google search but I'm too lazy to do it or just expect you tell me" crowd is the problem I agree. Even if they are not the majority, when I see a new thread or question that seems like an easy find, I get really mad because I had to take the time to learn and search on my own. I've been on here since 2006 and I guess because of all the new androids out there you get people who are not technologically inclined trying to do technicological things.
However, I agree it has gotten out of control, and the mods are unwilling or unable to do anything about the newbs or the a%*holes that are attacking devs when they know nothing about any of this development stuff.
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^^^ most important part of your OP...
:sidenote: your like the XDA ghandi >>
"be the change"
/trollio
EDIT: I applied to be a mod (again) - and I'm all about reducing the jackassery around here. If accepted, I'll do what I can
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/pulls out soap box and stands on it
first off you wouldnt believe the amount of buttholes and douchebags mods put up with on a daily basis. most often we only get called in when there is a problem, so everyone wants to talk about how things have changed and how it sucks putting up with the idiots. put on mod glasses, i would 75% of the people on here, instead of just reporting a troll or a n00b posting in the wrong spot or a spammer, they in turn flame, troll, spam the person that just needs reporting. so that means, we then have to clean everything back up, figure out who to get rid of and sort the whole situation. its not fun. if you want to see things change, be the change. report posts, dont flame the idiots, dont feed the trolls, just move on with your day. we arent afraid to boot people, we arent about "registration numbers", we are about supporting developers. but we cant be in every thread at once or all the time. if you see something out of place, report it, everyone has that ability. but most of us just return the favor of flaming people.
i became a mod, because i believed that a difference could be made. i reported posts, before i was a mod, i was helpful to people, i tried to teach n00bs the correct way of doing things instead of treating them like trash. yes there is an over abundance of users now due to the influx of android devices, most of the new users dont know anything, and they wont ever learn anything if we all are douchebags to them.
if XDA is becoming something that it wasnt in the past, its because we as a user base are allowing it to be so. be a respectful user, help people out, if someone is doing something they arent supposed to report them. serisously, how are we supposed to know whats going on if we arent notified?
/steps off soap box
I think a large problem too is it really does feel like the mods play favorites. I don't want to bring up the whole Chad.Goodman thing, and how he was reported and pulled in a matter of hours, yet, when he reported other non-GPL complying dev's nothing was done to them. Or my own situation, having important threads detailing hostile actions from one particular user being deleted without any reply or communication from a mod as to why. That user having no repercussion for his actions.. It's really feels that it's not an equal ground forum a lot of the time.
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I think a large problem too is it really does feel like the mods play favorites. I don't want to bring up the whole Chad.Goodman thing, and how he was reported and pulled in a matter of hours, yet, when he reported other non-GPL complying dev's nothing was done to them. Or my own situation, having important threads detailing hostile actions from one particular user being deleted without any reply or communication from a mod as to why. That user having no repercussion for his actions.. It's really feels that it's not an equal ground forum a lot of the time.
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i agree that it may feel like that sometimes, and sometimes mods need to do a better job in communicating. users will not however see everything that goes on behind the scenes. if we infract someone we dont broadcast it, its really no one else's business if i infract you, thats why other users cant see other peoples infractions. if you dont like the way a mod handled something, ask him (or her) how/why they did what they did. dont be hostile about it, just pose a question. i know we are more than willing to talk to users about their issues, and come to the best possible resolve.
Coolexe is a human being. He is a dev that doesnt know how to make a kernel without KANGING it from someone else. The only thing that the ture anthrax DEV wants is credit, where credit is supposed to be. Not to be claiming it for their own. The true anthrax kernel has been given to us hours and even days before Coolexe commits it to his github. I am stating the truth and everyone that is connected with Coolexe, especially the xda Moderators are idiots. The only thing they have to do is give credit. They have to respect and so you shall receive no respect back by people who know the truth. Why dont you just give credit where it is needed and not take money from people that think it is really you doing all the work when really it is someone else. If this thread is deleted by a MOD, then we know that that MOD is in on the KANGING with Coolexe. Thanks for reading and have a good day.
Question: Do we all know who the real developer is?
First the above user is banned because he made a secondary account just to post trash.
So. Here we are.
I am in the perfect mood for this today.
Get down off your soapbox and go outside and get a life. I couldn't give two craps for coolexe (and he would tell you the same), I couldn't give two craps for the dev you claim to be a knight for (and he would tell you the same). I have been nothing but respectful to everyone on both sides of this idiotic debacle, especially to the users that are respectful to me. If you come in here and post the drivel that you see above, you deserve to be banned.
If we are to prove the kang that is claimed we have to see source. No change logs, no screen shots. Source. That's how it has always been and it's not changing. I don't make the rules I just enforce them. I'm not on coolexe's payroll. If I could prove kang and discipline I would. I have done it numerous times in this forum. I am the least biased person here because I don't use either products. I use my own goods.
Don't be douche bags here. Zero tolerance hasn't even been in place in a while. You can't claim that I haven't banned people bashing the other side, because i did publicly (even though it got me in trouble). Don't take one side of stories, don't pretend to know everything. I don't know 100% and I unfortunately have been involved since the beginning (starting roughly a year ago now).
Thanks.
Oh btw. Even though you tagged this as a question, it really isn't and looks to be in the wrong forum.
Edit: taylor308 don't make any more accounts either. We aren't as dumb as you assume.
Cool is the best
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First the above user is banned because he made a secondary account just to post trash.
So. Here we are.
I am in the perfect mood for this today.
Get down off your soapbox and go outside and get a life. I couldn't give two craps for coolexe (and he would tell you the same), I couldn't give two craps for the dev you claim to be a knight for (and he would tell you the same). I have been nothing but respectful to everyone on both sides of this idiotic debacle, especially to the users that are respectful to me. If you come in here and post the drivel that you see above, you deserve to be banned.
If we are to prove the kang that is claimed we have to see source. No change logs, no screen shots. Source. That's how it has always been and it's not changing. I don't make the rules I just enforce them. I'm not on coolexe's payroll. If I could prove kang and discipline I would. I have done it numerous times in this forum. I am the least biased person here because I don't use either products. I use my own goods.
Don't be douche bags here. Zero tolerance hasn't even been in place in a while. You can't claim that I haven't banned people bashing the other side, because i did publicly (even though it got me in trouble). Don't take one side of stories, don't pretend to know everything. I don't know 100% and I unfortunately have been involved since the beginning (starting roughly a year ago now).
Thanks.
Oh btw. Even though you tagged this as a question, it really isn't and looks to be in the wrong forum.
Edit: taylor308 don't make any more accounts either. We aren't as dumb as you assume.
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Listen here pimpin, I'm sick and tired of you being so level headed. Stop preventing me from getting the popcorn out every time one of these threads are started.
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oohaylima said:
Listen here pimpin, I'm sick and tired of you being so level headed. Stop preventing me from getting the popcorn out every time one of these threads are started.
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Yeah. It's fun watching people on both sides of the argument get all butt hurt and feel the need to be Internet crusaders, righting all wrongs by the click of the mouse.
On a serious note, I do appreciate pstevep being willing to hear out both sides and explaining XDA's position when he really doesn't have to.
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As I've followed, the two sides are:
1) AAAAAARRRGHH! He's copying me!
and
2) AAAAAARGGHHH! He said I copied him!
I had arguments like this in kindergarten(which, coincidentally enough, stopped happening within a few years), and yet both sides have devout followers who will defend to the death their side of this rudimentary debate. By all means! Keep beating this dead horse, all ye faithful! It's bound to go somewhere eventually!
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