Hey guys and girls,
I'm coming back to the smartphone world - had a Droid and an EVO. Loved them both. I see that the Photon's bootloader is unlocked - but it drops 4G access, etc.
is this ever going to change? with the release of the source is development for the phone going to pick up?
I cannot wait any longer to get a phone. At this point my choices are EVO 3D or a Photon, (and maybe returning either for a SGS2 once it releases and I see how it fares)
If you were in my shoes, had to get a phone tomorrow - would you get the Photon or the EVO 3D?
mtvruinedyou said:
Hey guys and girls,
I'm coming back to the smartphone world - had a Droid and an EVO. Loved them both. I see that the Photon's bootloader is unlocked - but it drops 4G access, etc.
is this ever going to change? with the release of the source is development for the phone going to pick up?
I cannot wait any longer to get a phone. At this point my choices are EVO 3D or a Photon, (and maybe returning either for a SGS2 once it releases and I see how it fares)
If you were in my shoes, had to get a phone tomorrow - would you get the Photon or the EVO 3D?
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Photon hands down. Out of the box quality is superb. The 3 d is a gimmick phone.
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What he ^ said. I've had both and the photon is better.
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I'm not worried about the 3D - I'm worried about the future of the device. It seems the dev community for the EVO 3D is much larger at this point and I'm worried that development for the Photon won't get as far because of the issues with 4G being dumped, etc.
I've owned motorola and htc devices before, like i said, and I liked both - I just want to make sure that I can customize it through ROMs and still have full functionality.
Is the Tegra 2 better than the SnapdragonX2?
Nokia 1100 ftw.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Dude...the MoPho isn't even 2 months old...give it time at least....code released today...all thats left is the bootloader....patience is key here....
Coming from the Evo, I'm impressed
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The kernel source was released today, so the 4G unlocked issue should be corrected soon.
How do the screens compare, in your opinion? Is the PenTile display as bad as some of the reviews state?
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How do the screens compare, in your opinion? Is the PenTile display as bad as some of the reviews state?
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In my opinion, those reviews come from EVO 3D and wannabe GS2 owners. Haters are gunna hate.
As an analogy, I believe that part of the issue is that standard def signals are being put into an HD screen. You know, a standard TV actually looks better than an HD TV with a standard signal because the HD TV shows the flaws. Just my2cents.
Not to mention the inability of Samsung to stay on top of development for their products...terrible in my opinion...
I'm sticking with my MoPho!
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defiantly Photon, Evo 3D has horrible service, and the Photon just runs smoother in my opinion
For what its worth I traded my Evo3D for the MoPho, mainly because of battery life. I've been thrilled with it. MoPho vs SG2... well, thats a different issue.
I think my main complaint with the MoPho is that the USB and HDMI ports cannot be used when using the kickstand. I know why they did it, to sell more docks, but its annoying as hell and makes the stand damn near useless IMO. Got rid of Blur almost immediately with launcherpro so no problems there. The thing has already been rooted, easily, and the kernal release its a matter of weeks before ROMs start to land..
For sure go with MoPho over the evo3D. People who say that the 3D's battery life "isn't that bad" are lying to your face.
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For what its worth I traded my Evo3D for the MoPho, mainly because of battery life. I've been thrilled with it. MoPho vs SG2... well, thats a different issue.
I think my main complaint with the MoPho is that the USB and HDMI ports cannot be used when using the kickstand. I know why they did it, to sell more docks, but its annoying as hell and makes the stand damn near useless IMO. Got rid of Blur almost immediately with launcherpro so no problems there. The thing has already been rooted, easily, and the kernal release its a matter of weeks before ROMs start to land..
For sure go with MoPho over the evo3D. People who say that the 3D's battery life "isn't that bad" are lying to your face.
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You can use both the ports and the kicksand at the same time.. Try it.. Works well..
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Photon 4G HANDS DOWN!
First off, let me preface this by stating I am a die-hard EVO 4G backer! That phone has been the best phone (so far) I have ever owned! Hands down! Now, I am a business owner and require a sturdy, reliable, functional phone to conduct my daily business.
I have owned a Samsung Nexus S, Photon 4G, and an EVO 3D. They all have their issues. But in terms of signal strength, call quality, loudness, speed, battery life, and overall functionality, FOR ME... hands down...the Photon 4G performed the best.
The EVO 3D is fast and pretty but for what I need it to do, it sucks! I have had random reboots, weak signal strength, call drops, the speaker quality sounds like crap compared to the photon, BATTERY LIFE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!, and to top it off, I use square to collect payments from clients and when I connect it, the 3D thinks it is headphones and starts to play my music player! Let's just say some clients aren't really big Tupac fans as I am! Then when i am finished with the transactions and unplug the square device, I can ONLY talk to people using the speaker phone UNTIL I reboot the phone.
I love HTC from a development standpoint, but rooting and dealing with the 3D doesn't take on the same amount of ease as the OG 4G did. I love trying out different ROMs but from a business standpoint, I need functionality and dependability. I know some of you may say 'maybe you just had a lemon'. Let's just say that after the third 3D from different lots, I would say 'nyet'!
The Photon is not without its issues but for my requirements, Motorola Photon is my choice. Launcher pro took care of the motoblur issue. I will say this...the moment there is a AOSP ROM out for the photon, I will be getting it!
I loved the Samsung Nexus S for its smoothness. Didn't have major issues although the signal strength was a little weak and the loudness (ear piece, ringers, and speaker) sucked. Looking forward the the Epic 4G touch (SGS2)!
Regards,
Robert
mtvruinedyou said:
Hey guys and girls,
I'm coming back to the smartphone world - had a Droid and an EVO. Loved them both. I see that the Photon's bootloader is unlocked - but it drops 4G access, etc.
is this ever going to change? with the release of the source is development for the phone going to pick up?
I cannot wait any longer to get a phone. At this point my choices are EVO 3D or a Photon, (and maybe returning either for a SGS2 once it releases and I see how it fares)
If you were in my shoes, had to get a phone tomorrow - would you get the Photon or the EVO 3D?
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This is the Photon forums so yea.....get a Photon.
As for the 4g, source code has only been out for a day. It is being worked on and for sure will soon have custom kernels and unlocked bootloader w/everything working. Peeps just need to have a little patience. This phone got root almost right out of the gate not to mention we already have custom recovery. From my perspective, developement of the Photon is moving ahead rapidly. Phone has only been out for little over a month.
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Not to mention the inability of Samsung to stay on top of development for their products...terrible in my opinion...
I'm sticking with my MoPho!
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Amen to that statement.
Yeah, they do have a beautiful screen but considering the number of times that Samsung's dropped the ball in supporting their products after its released with timely fixes and maintenance releases, endless delays for upgrading to the latest Android platform, not to mention being notorious for having a lousy GPS function, I'm a bit surprised that anyone is considering one of their phones as a viable option.
As G W Bush would say, "There's an old saying in Tennessee that we also have in Texas. Fool me once, shame on you.... Fool me, can't get fooled again."
No thanks Samsung. Your beautiful screens are great on televisions. But I don't care to have one on my phone if you can't support them after making them.
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I think my main complaint with the MoPho is that the USB and HDMI ports cannot be used when using the kickstand.
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Turn the phone over. The kickstand supports the phone in either orientation.
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Let me start by saying I own a Nexus s on voodoo clocked at 1.4ghz 2780 Quadrant and a streak on djstreak rom im a power user and a Evo 4g mikfroyo rom Toastmod.Now I paid 550$ outright for this beast 2 days ago just to give it a spin but I read its bootloader might be locked and let's face it guys this beast needs a rom period no? Asked.Now my question is will we at some point see a rom or cracked bootloader or is this beast a fail? And if so should I just pick up a ip4 just for its Nice games or should I wait for the roms if you think this will get them because the Droid x did and it has the same lock on the bootloader right?
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For everyone on this forums sake, I hope that you get rid of it. I don't think anyone here wants to deal with your constant whiny posting and trolling. This post is literally useless, and you either have no free-thought for yourself, or you're trolling just like you've been doing for the last week. I hope you get rid of the phone, and in doing so some Libyan national comes out of ****ing nowhere and cuts your arms off so we don't have to deal with your posting anymore.
I think you should wait for the iPhone 27. Definitely.
We all get it your a goddamn power user, developer, gamer. You put those words in ever single freaking post.
I echo everything else that has been said with exception of the OP..
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Let me start by saying I own a Nexus s on voodoo clocked at 1.4ghz 2780 Quadrant and a streak on djstreak rom im a power user and a Evo 4g mikfroyo rom Toastmod.Now I paid 550$ outright for this beast 2 days ago just to give it a spin but I read its bootloader might be locked and let's face it guys this beast needs a rom period no? Asked.Now my question is will we at some point see a rom or cracked bootloader or is this beast a fail? And if so should I just pick up a ip4 just for its Nice games or should I wait for the roms if you think this will get them because the Droid x did and it has the same lock on the bootloader right?
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Returned mine and picked up an Inspire 4g. So much better. The only 2 things the Atrix has on it are speaker volume and battery life.
The Inspire is faster (overclocked to 1.2-1.5ghz depending on your battery/risk factor). Everything runs so much smoother. Screen is bright and colorful, power button isn't in the worst spot ever. Screen is bigger but with a more popular (supported) resolution. Rooted and fully rom customizable. Camera doesn't completely suck. Sense > Motoblur all day long, and this is my first time with either (My first ever Android phone was the Atrix, now the inspire).
I could keep going on, but if you can deal with the battery life and lower volume speaker, return your Atrix and get an Inspire, you won't be disappointed. I came from an iPhone 4 and was heavily considering returning the Atrix and going back to the iPhone but a friend of mine returned his Atrix and got the Inspire and was very happy so I gave it a try, so much better.
Omg you got an atrix ahahhah
Definitely wait for the next iphone. Because if not, you won't be happy.
I couldn't deal with the **** ass battery life of the Inspire.
1) Why do you need people to tell you what to do? Can't you decide for yourself?
2) Why are you basing your decisions on meaningless benchmarks that don't translate into real world performance?
3) The Atrix is still a baby, roms overclocking and all that **** will come eventually.
4) the Atrix is faster than an overclocked inspire 4G which is just a gimped Evo. Only an idiot would buy that phone in 2011.
Exador said:
1) Why do you need people to tell you what to do? Can't you decide for yourself?
2) Why are you basing your decisions on meaningless benchmarks that don't translate into real world performance?
3) The Atrix is still a baby, roms overclocking and all that **** will come eventually.
4) the Atrix is faster than an overclocked inspire 4G which is just a gimped Evo. Only an idiot would buy that phone in 2011.
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I agree, why would you buy a POS inspire 4g when it's just a repackaged EVO??
I came back to AT&T with an Atrix after using my Nexus on T-mobile since it's launch date. My reasons for the switch back to AT&T where i originally was:
90% T-Mobile's horrible signal quality in buildings (AKA work) and the Nexus's mediocre battery life. I tried all the roms, kernels, stock, etc etc... it still wasnt what i expected for a "pure" experience.
Short story shorter, I don't miss my Nexus S one bit.
Wait for the atrix 13.
TS, throw away all your cell phones, AND your computer.
read a book.
rofl.
10char
ApplCobbler said:
For everyone on this forums sake, I hope that you get rid of it. I don't think anyone here wants to deal with your constant whiny posting and trolling. This post is literally useless, and you either have no free-thought for yourself, or you're trolling just like you've been doing for the last week. I hope you get rid of the phone, and in doing so some Libyan national comes out of ****ing nowhere and cuts your arms off so we don't have to deal with your posting anymore.
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+1,000,000
Make the decision urself
And don't whine. Get over it. No one and nothing is perfect in this world...!
Well i thought this phone was gonna be epic, which it really isnt that bad, just i feel as if htc really really skipped out on the quality of this phone, people taking phones back 3 or 4 times is just unacceptable, and all of these bugs in the software are ridiculous, from bad signal strength to wake locks, dead pixels and just careless quality issues like dust under the screen and in the cameras, just wish htc would of taken more time to get this one right since its such a fast and highly anticipated phone! My trust and reliability in htc has been lowered due to this product!
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I haven't had one single issue with my phone that you referred to. But to be honest those issues happen to all phones when first released. There are always bad phones that get released first. Oh well ish happens....
I love the phone, and the fact that they #TEAMWIN just verified the 3D to be overclocked to 1.7 ghz with no unlocked bootloader is just a small hint of what this phone is about to become. SWEET!!!!!!!!!!
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Well i thought this phone was gonna be epic, which it really isnt that bad, just i feel as if htc really really skipped out on the quality of this phone, people taking phones back 3 or 4 times is just unacceptable, and all of these bugs in the software are ridiculous, from bad signal strength to wake locks, dead pixels and just careless quality issues like dust under the screen and in the cameras, just wish htc would of taken more time to get this one right since its such a fast and highly anticipated phone! My trust and reliability in htc has been lowered due to this product!
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Congrats.....thanks for the unnecessary post. Take the phone back if you want.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of the people returning the phones are OCD about things typical people would never notice (most people here, including myself are).
The construction is great compared to any other phone. Compare it to the SGS2. Yes we have dead pixels, and etc. But the SGS2 has the same things, and even more (tinted screen, gps, massive over heating, etc).
All phones have problems. That is the result of an customizable, open system like android. Companies cannot catch everything in their testing. If you want a nearly (again, nearly, not perfect) phone upon release...then get an iphone and leave us be with our initially bug, but eventually awesome, killer phones we call androids.
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I haven't had one single issue with my phone that you referred to. But to be honest those issues happen to all phones when first released. There are always bad phones that get released first. Oh well ish happens....
I love the phone, and the fact that they #TEAMWIN just verified the 3D to be overclocked to 1.7 ghz with no unlocked bootloader is just a small hint of what this phone is about to become. SWEET!!!!!!!!!!
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Really? Wow, awesome...all without a custom kernel?
Can you say future proof?
I too was expecting to be blown away since I was coming from a samsung epic. After only a few days with my first HTC phone, I really don't know what the big deal is. Yeah ok the phone is 3d, but after a few pictures and video, I havnt used it at all. The phone is heavy like a brick compared to my epic. The screen doesn't have fighting chance against the epic, but it is sharper. I just have a feeling the galaxy s 2 will blow away this phone in every way. One thing I do like about this phone is I'm in love with sense 3.0
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I too was expecting to be blown away since I was coming from a samsung epic. After only a few days with my first HTC phone, I really don't know what the big deal is. Yeah ok the phone is 3d, but after a few pictures and video, I havnt used it at all. The phone is heavy like a brick compared to my epic. The screen doesn't have fighting chance against the epic, but it is sharper. I just have a feeling the galaxy s 2 will blow away this phone in every way. One thing I do like about this phone is I'm in love with sense 3.0
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Could you be more specific in your comparison? The only thing i see you compare is the screen and sense.
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To those who agree with the op, may I ask you to explain what you expected? What is missing that would have " blown you away " ?
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First of all don't use the word "epic" when talking about an htc device. It's just not right!
Joking aside some people have bad luck with phones and I am sure there are bad batches of every device no matter who makes it. I hear people talking about dead pixels and bugs everytime a new device comes out. I have never had any major issues with any of my HTC devices I have ever owned. I love this thing more everyday I have it. Call me an htc fanboy if u will but there is a reason I always go with HTC.
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shook187 said:
I too was expecting to be blown away since I was coming from a samsung epic. After only a few days with my first HTC phone, I really don't know what the big deal is. Yeah ok the phone is 3d, but after a few pictures and video, I havnt used it at all. The phone is heavy like a brick compared to my epic. The screen doesn't have fighting chance against the epic, but it is sharper. I just have a feeling the galaxy s 2 will blow away this phone in every way. One thing I do like about this phone is I'm in love with sense 3.0
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So take the 3D back, if you truly have one. Why do you Samsung fans always feel the need to justify your purchase by comparing phones and bashing the competition.
shook187 said:
I too was expecting to be blown away since I was coming from a samsung epic. After only a few days with my first HTC phone, I really don't know what the big deal is. Yeah ok the phone is 3d, but after a few pictures and video, I havnt used it at all. The phone is heavy like a brick compared to my epic. The screen doesn't have fighting chance against the epic, but it is sharper. I just have a feeling the galaxy s 2 will blow away this phone in every way. One thing I do like about this phone is I'm in love with sense 3.0
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Your view on the screen is exactly that, only your view. I personally, after comparing the evo3d to a friend's SGS2, prefer everything about the evo 3d. The screen resolution is awesome, and the colors are very accurate. I compared both phones to a color calibrated monitor. All three devices had the same picture. The evo3d looked just like the monitor....while the SGS2 look grossly oversaturated.
Here is a perfect example. I use my phone to view a lot of images taken with fluorescent microscopes. If I view the picture on my evo3d...it looks perfect. If we view it on my buddies SGS2...the picture is completely unreadable/you can't make an conclusion about your data.
In terms of the rest of the phone...I have posted this page before.
http://www.droidgamers.com/index.ph...1661-dual-core-beasts-the-decision-to-buy-one
Maybe I seem like a fanboy. But I have used and researched both phones. They both are awesome! But I prefer the evo 3d.
Should have saved your .02 !!
Samsung FTW...... oh wait, what is today? HTC day? Ok sorry.... HTC FTW!!
It really depends on the flavor of the week. Im sticking with my 3D. Ive liked HTC products since they were known as UTStarcom (Apache days).
Hello,
I still think it is far to early in the game to really know any definitive answers about the true potential of the 3VO as the overwhelming majority of Software out there does not take advantage of the Dual Core's of the 3D.
In time, this phone will be fully Rooted and there will also be Software that takes greater advantage of the 3D's Processing Capabilities.
In the mean time, there is far more Memory on the 3D over the 4G, a higher resolution Screen, Sense 3.0 (I realize some do not care for Sense, but I do), and more.
I really think for whatever reason that after some Professional Reviews took a negative take on this Phone, many people have seen the worst in the Phone. All I can say is that if you are not happy, by all means Return it. I personally think it to be a mistake, but it is your money. And with Samsung, they are slow in Releasing Android OS Updates, so while the new Galaxy might be compelling, all is not perfect there.
Cheers,
JJ
shook187 said:
I too was expecting to be blown away since I was coming from a samsung epic. After only a few days with my first HTC phone, I really don't know what the big deal is. Yeah ok the phone is 3d, but after a few pictures and video, I havnt used it at all. The phone is heavy like a brick compared to my epic. The screen doesn't have fighting chance against the epic, but it is sharper. I just have a feeling the galaxy s 2 will blow away this phone in every way. One thing I do like about this phone is I'm in love with sense 3.0
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GSII FTW. I'm waiting for that phone.
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Irishman42 said:
So take the 3D back, if you truly have one. Why do you Samsung fans always feel the need to justify your purchase by comparing phones and bashing the competition.
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Don't take my comment as "bashing". Im happy with my new toy so far and its growing on me as we speak. But also don't underestimate what a great phone the epic was and how great the sgs2 will be.
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Don't take my comment as "bashing". Im happy with my new toy so far and its growing on me as we speak. But also don't underestimate what a great phone the epic was and how great the sgs2 will be.
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You come across as a troll because you just keep saying " Epic is dha shizz.. " and not stating anything specific as to what makes it so great.
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You come across as a troll because you just keep saying " Epic is dha shizz.. " and not stating anything specific as to what makes it so great.
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Well I didnt what to get into details, cause I dont have my EVO long enough. But right out the box, I feel like the epic screen is much better. Also the EVO feels much heavier. I also didn't feel the difference between processors.
My lcd is tilted. I went in to exchange it and the new phone had a tilted lcd and a dead pixel. Obviously I kept the first one. I haven't had any software issues and this thing runs like a dream. It does suck that there are these hardware issues but it doesn't seen like there are more issues than with most phones that are released. My wife for instance is on her 5th epic 4G and I am taking it into Sprint tonight to have it looked at for another issue..
tapa tapa tapa
Coming from a OG Droid. This phone is a ****ing huge improvement to me.
shook187 said:
I too was expecting to be blown away since I was coming from a samsung epic. After only a few days with my first HTC phone, I really don't know what the big deal is. Yeah ok the phone is 3d, but after a few pictures and video, I havnt used it at all. The phone is heavy like a brick compared to my epic. The screen doesn't have fighting chance against the epic, but it is sharper. I just have a feeling the galaxy s 2 will blow away this phone in every way. One thing I do like about this phone is I'm in love with sense 3.0
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Seriously, you are in your 30 day window.....return the 3D and get your epic back....We don't care if you liked your epic screen better.....so take the 3D back and go away....why do people insist in stupid posts like this....I don't go into the epic forum and brag about how much better my phone is.....(maybe I should start) but I am not a troll.
If your thinking about changing from the photon to the epic 4g touch. I wouldnt switch and the reason i say dont switch is because i have a history with samsung i have had the captivate,droid charge, revolution,tab, infuse which is enough to know about them. And with motorola i had a droid 1, droid 2 and droid 3, droid x and x2,xoom and photon. And i can honestly that motorola hands down makes the better product alot of people i know buy into what the reviewers say about the device and not make our own judgement. On samsung i found myself rooting it and the installing a lagfix with motorola i root and setcpu and its good. Also the build quality with way different motorola has them beat in that department. I mean that plastic with samsung is not got one drop and its bad yea its thin but ur paying the price for it with build quality. All im saying is put motorola phones next to samsung and u will c a major difference. And as for as those speed tests go thats all good that u get a highscore and all but the photon is a beast of a phone. Dont b easy fooled cause the epic is new on the block. Also the screen on the photon is amazing.
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Also when i had the infuse my signal was in and out all the time and yes it was att but when i put my sim in my dell streak i didnt have that problem
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Where is all the support
I have been debating back and forth and which phone to keep... The Photon is a great phone but it seems like there has only been crickets in the dev section. I look at the SGS2 dev section and there is tons of things going on. I love android because I find it fun playing with the phones, changing ROMS and everything else.. But it seems like there are not a lot of devs interested in this phone, and honestly I don't have enough time to learn how to be a dev, I just follow the instructions.. I guess we will see... oh and GO PACKERS.
I've had both MORE Samsungs and more Motos than what you have listed.
I cannot find the truth in your post
When work gave me a Moto Nextel i950 I had a Samsung a680.
When work gave me a Moto Razr I had a Samsung Blade.
And on and on and on.....
Everyone says some BS about Samsungs flimsy build.....I don't see it....I've NEVER seen it.
My Samsung Vibrant was built NO DIFFERENT in quality to this Photon.....BOTH have cheesy plastic backs.
HTC has cheesy plastic backs.
LG has cheesy plastic backs.
Huawei has cheesy plastic backs.
Christ get over it already.
I'm dropping this Photon POS due to the LOCKED bootloader.
At least with Samsung I can flash and tweak to my hearts content.
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I've had both MORE Samsungs and more Motos than what you have listed.
I cannot find the truth in your post
When work gave me a Moto Nextel i950 I had a Samsung a680.
When work gave me a Moto Razr I had a Samsung Blade.
And on and on and on.....
Everyone says some BS about Samsungs flimsy build.....I don't see it....I've NEVER seen it.
My Samsung Vibrant was built NO DIFFERENT in quality to this Photon.....BOTH have cheesy plastic backs.
HTC has cheesy plastic backs.
LG has cheesy plastic backs.
Huawei has cheesy plastic backs.
Christ get over it already.
I'm dropping this Photon POS due to the LOCKED bootloader.
At least with Samsung I can flash and tweak to my hearts content.
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Locked bootloader? Mine is unlocked.
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I wont be jumping into anything, I'll wait this one out and see what happens. I too wish there was more going on in the dev section bit I'm not willing to give up my great battery life, signal and GPS until Sammy is proven good.
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You sir seem to have something stuck up your you know what. They arent talking about the plastic backs, theyre talking about the fact that Samsung in general has issues with overheating, low signal, shotty GPS, random battery drains, and an overall flimsy structure. You also don't seem to be doing any research, as the bootloader is unlocked on the Photon now.
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I have an epic, and this is all true.
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Not to mention...Samsung is also very slow on updates. The Epic is still on 2.2 while the almost all of Motorola phones has been or will be updated to 2.3.
With Ice cream sandwich right around the corner, I'm just not so sure I want to exchange my Photon for the Epic Touch.
@n2ishun u talking about phones that dont count we r talking about android and i had more phones than that but im not talking about flip phones and messaging phones im talking about more updated phones anybody that really into phones know whats up i got the epic right now and the droid 3 and photon motorola has a better build quality call quality.
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Meh.... Bootloader unlocked without 4G may as well be locked at this point. Moto is killing this phone sitting on their thumbs with no official bootloader unlock.
I went from a Samsung vibrant to the photon. For the most part I loved the vibrant. My phone before that was a nexus one. Their is a noticeable difference in build quality. I prefer htc and Motorola over Samsung. Yeah the new epic touch 4 g is ultra thin but will it last two years? I plan on keeping my photon till my two year contact is up. Also getting updates was a pain with Samsung. They doing do ota updates, but you have to install it from a PC and go thru this whole process thats a pain.
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After messing with the Samsung infuse I changed my mind about swhiching. The screen is way to big and with only a 800 x 480 resolution it fails. Sprint should of just kept it at 4.3 inches which I think is the sweet spot for phones.
All that is well and good but I had a Photon, upgraded to MR5, had all the tips and tricks and I STILL had NO AUDIO on calls. Is it too much to ask that I have audio on a call that by all indications has gone through? If I can make and receive calls on the Samsung then that's the phone for me.
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I feel like we've been through this with you before. It was your fault for not exchanging a defective device, so you have no leg to stand on coming back to this forum trying to bash the photon.
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Not to mention...Samsung is also very slow on updates. The Epic is still on 2.2 while the almost all of Motorola phones has been or will be updated to 2.3.
With Ice cream sandwich right around the corner, I'm just not so sure I want to exchange my Photon for the Epic Touch.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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Nexus phones and "phones they own" are a bit different.
I was really annoyed at the lack of development for a while but then I thought back to my evo which really needed it to keep up, and the epic were anything other than bone stock had stupid connectivity issues. I've rooted my mopho to restore apps and that's it. It just works outside the box. if I really feel like getting squirrley I might look to remove the bloat with root explorer. But ive gotten amazing battery life, awesome performance, great signal and call quality. Really im only missing the dev from my old flash junkie ways not that the phone needs it.
Basically if yall want to leave then GTFO and stop posting, if you want to stay let them GTFO and enjoy your amazing phone. I doubt it will be all too soon that this phone becomes too underspecced to run our favorite apps.
If you are having issues and haven't screwed with removing system apps and have tried removing all installed apps and putting them back on one at a time bring your phone back it probably was a bad build. Its really not that hard people, the vast majority love how this phone functions, the fact that I can see it in full sunlight is awesome.
If you want better benchmarks go get the GSII and pray to whatever God you believe in that the hardware is compatible enough to make use of all of those devs already there otherwise it could be an EPIC fiasco all over again. Base your opinions on the here and now, not some future potential that may or may not be achieved later. Just don't come back and complain about reception/gloat about some number on a benchmark let us happy MoPhoers be.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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/agree. =) can't wait for ice cream sandwich.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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Oooo! I didn't even think of that. Good point. I hope this actually happens (getting excited, cannot contain myself!!!) lol
The only thing I wish this phone had were toggles on the notification pull down menu. Those are so nice on Sammy and HTC. I've tried some of the apps that do this, but they all tell me my phone doesn't support multiple toggles on a single widget. If someone could figure out a way to do this, I would forget all about the e4gt.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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I wouldn't expect that to be of much benefit to a phone that is already on the market though. I'm looking forward to an amazing Android moto, yes, but I dont expect the photon to become that device.
On the Samsungs again, they don't get updated, they get released partially functional and then ditched. Some of you are talking about ice cream sandwich now? Epics froyo update was painfully late. We still can't get a full-featured GB. Our front camera only works sideways in video chat. And our TV output is blocked. Bring into this everything that was already mentioned about overheating, poor signal, shoddy GPS, and random battery drains. It would take a lot of convincing to get me to buy another one.
I'm totally digging this photon thing, but looking g forward to what's next from motogoogle.
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I just read that HTC is the number one cell phone supply last quarter. Im a happy buyer. Hope everyone else is too.
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I'm not. HTC has gotten too comfortable with how things are going and are now becoming the next Samsung. They are pumping out uglier phones at a higher rate with more issues and less and less QC than normal--and that's bad.
HTC needs to go back to being "hungry" like they were in the Windows Mobile/early Android days. Their same tired design and irritating design flaws and hardware/software issues are becoming so bad, that I almost find myself wanting to switch to Motorola or even the dreaded iPhone (once it receives a worthy upgrade, not the 4S). Except on the Sprint network, nothing really comes close to the EVO 3D in my opinion. The Epic 4G Touch, while a fantastic phone, does not meet my standards either. I am not looking to downgrade my screen resolution just to get a minimal increase in phone performance or battery life. Plus the Epic 4G Touch seems a bit too plasticy for my tastes and seems to be very fragile from so much plastic. I don't mind a thin phone, or even a light phone, but damn you can't have both and feel comfortable enough in your purchase. Use higher quality materials PLEASE instead of worrying about pushing out 45 phones a year.
Sales translate into resources. More resources will allow more wiggle in the r&d dept. HTC are still hungry, they had the first 4g phone, followed by the first 3d phone. Seeing sammy and apple t
Chasing a such a small company is pretty amazing and i hope htc doesnt think they coast because this is only for this quarter most likely.
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Htc gonna loose a costumer im going epic touch 4g
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HTC sucks now. True story. Try challenging this.
From a G1 to the EVO 3D. I don't see how they are becoming Sammy.
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I was hardcore HTC fan until the evo3d, it was a disappointment for me for various reasons. I hope they can put out an Evo4g like phone so I can come back.
I am happy to see HTC as the top brand now.
Most of the issues I have with HTC are all provider issue.
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HTC sucks now. True story. Try challenging this.
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Dont have to challege, numbers show that htc out sold samsung and apple this quarter. Personally i love my 3d and its head and shoulders ahead of the og evo and every other phone ive owned. U read on xda and it makes htc sound bad because most love stock android. I think that makes up the smallest % of phone users and is one reason apple is praised for their os.
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I still like their devices quite a bit. Not a challenge, it's a matter of opinion.
I had to return mine and get a replacement due to a very crooked screen but you know what? Sh*t happens. Take a look around. All these companies are cranking new stuff out faster than is humanly possible if you want to release a perfect device that will guarantee no problems. Look at Apple and their last two iPhones. They're supposed to be tops in quality and manufacturing. But look at the iPhone 4 and "antennagate", the free bumpers, the screens turning yellow and green. And now the 4S with the battery life issues.
Bottom line: almost everything produced today has early release issues. You want a perfect device: be willing to pay 2x what you pay today for it and wait longer for it! Hell, even IF you release a perfect product, there will still be whiners.
I say HTC is on par with the best.
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I was hardcore HTC fan until the evo3d, it was a disappointment for me for various reasons. I hope they can put out an Evo4g like phone so I can come back.
I am happy to see HTC as the top brand now.
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Well there is such a device lol, it is on the carrier to request them.
The EVO 4G+ would be that phone.
I'm pretty happy with HTC.
What I hate is their policy as far as the bootloaders go & their pathetic timing & quality of the kernel source releases.
Embrace the community 100% or go screw yourself.
They need to fire the team who works on them. Samsung does this right & from what I hear so does Sony, HTC has no excuse not to.
The largest mobile 3rd party Dev community STARTED with HTC devices under the XDA-model line of phones, they should be the ones flaunting & the standing poster-OEM for this.
I do like HTC's upgrade-ability situation, the EVO 4G was a shining example of this.
I like HTC Sense & will continue to buy models with HTC Sense.
I also like the Dev following & the kernel devs who've rolled with us on Sprint/HTC.
And with that, I'll continue to be a HTC user.
Well the htc evo design is out. Any word on how it is? I wouldnt downgrade from my 3d but i would bump up my wifes nexus s 4g.
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Htc gonna loose a costumer im going epic touch 4g
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Good luck with that POS. Before you make the leap of death, go over to the Epic Touch 4G forums and see their issues.
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Good luck with that POS. Before you make the leap of death, go over to the Epic Touch 4G forums and see their issues.
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+1 to this
Had the EVO 3d on launch
Sold it and bought a et4g
And traded it for a ps3 And a lnib EVO 3d
Why?
Better build quality and many problems with LOS and faulty input/charger problem
It was hella faster tho :/ damn HTC and there failed hardware acceleration
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Not sure if this is right place to post but.... Im looking to trade my 3d for a epic touch 4g (galaxy sii) wondering if its a good idea i just want to try somthing new let me kno plz.... Im also rooted
Wtf
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Wtf
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?????? wtf?
cheddaface said:
Not sure if this is right place to post but.... Im looking to trade my 3d for a epic touch 4g (galaxy sii) wondering if its a good idea i just want to try somthing new let me kno plz.... Im also rooted
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I would stick with the Evo 3D. Once you play some 3D games or watch some 3D movies, you will see that it's an awesome feature to have the 3D. If you want better performance and don't care about the 3D features, you can install an AOSP rom. I think the Evo 3D is some of the best hardware out there right now.
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?????? wtf?
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Try the EPIC 4G Touch forums as most people only have one phone, and most of the people who frequent the EVO 3D forums have the EVO 3D and not the EPIC.
Good luck to you! I actually just traded back to the EVO because of personal tastes phone-wise but the SGSII is very very nice! I loved It's camera and SAMOLED cannot be beat!
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looks like im gonna just stick with it
I've have both. Evo 3D is my choice. In fact I gave my SG S2 to my neice for Christmas. Evo 3D is nicer. Not as snappy but the hardware is real quality.
I recently picked up the Evo 3d, and my dad got the E4GT. I've played with both, and while I will say that out of the box the E4GT does feel much more snappy, the combination of the size, "premium" feel (build quality), ROM options, features, and just overall fun, the Evo 3d wins all day. Plus, I am not a huge fan of Touchwiz, and I love Sense, so it's a no brainer for me. Good luck with your decision!
The epic touch 4g is huge compared to the Evo 3D. I actually wish the 3D was closer in dimensions to the evo 4G. I prefer the wider device, vs taller. The ET4G is both wider, and taller than the 3D.
But to your trade question, you will probably need to pony up some $$ with the trade, as the ET4G has a higher resale value at this time.
@OP I am glad you stuck with the 3D. Here in Atlanta at the Sprint service center they are constantly having issues with the SGSII dropping calls, GPS issues, and random reboots. people have been coming in and trading for the E3D.
I recognize that this may not be across the board, but when Sprint's own techs all have E3Ds and say they wouldn't touch a SGSII, that is an indicator to me.
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@OP I am glad you stuck with the 3D. Here in Atlanta at the Sprint service center they are constantly having issues with the SGSII dropping calls, GPS issues, and random reboots. people have been coming in and trading for the E3D.
I recognize that this may not be across the board, but when Sprint's own techs all have E3Ds and say they wouldn't touch a SGSII, that is an indicator to me.
my $0.02
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While my experience is just anecdotal, but my wife and I have the same issues as the ET4G users, and I have a Evo 3D, and she has a Evo 4G. It's completely tower related, for me though, because if I leave the tower covering my house, I have almost no issues. But at home (my work is also on the same tower), I don't receive calls, sometimes texts don't go through, sometimes have no data, dropped calls, and I get random reboots. I'm in the Atlanta area.
I have both to .. the s2 is more my fav but I am such an HTC fan that I love the 3d to LOL
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Samsung is just bad ...they're all about quantity over quality. Tell me why my buddy sitting right beside me on break at work can't get a signal to browse the web or check Facebook but I have no problem doing so...? His ssg2 is pretty ..but it's still Samsung crapola
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Samsung is just bad ...they're all about quantity over quality.
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Unfortunately, all companies are like this now. I remember HTC had dust under the screen issues with the Hero. Issues with the covering on the buttons coming off. The Evo 4G had light leakage issues, stuck pixels, and the digitizer not attached firmly to the body of the phone (usually only one side was affected). But, it looks like HTC has spent more time on QC on their hardware lately, when I look at my 3D. Now, when we pick a phone, we must choose the one that looks to be the lesser of all evils.
That's pretty much what I did... gave mine to someone I know that wanted the 3D and just paid the $199 for the upgrade on their account and swapped it out. Honestly I hated that I even wasted my upgrade on the 3D after a while... I think I used the 3D features maybe a week or two before forgetting all about em. IMO, pretty much everything was an upgrade but it's all personal preferences. Had I not been having some medical issues right after I bought it I would've returned it though.
And to the person that says Samsung cares about quantity over quality, let's not sit here and act like HTC has done anything to improve the issues these phones have had since the Evo came out. You'd think by now they'd be able to make a phone without the massive light leakage at the bottom but they're yet to even try to fix it. And let's not forget the debacle with the touch pro where probably 1 out of every 3 of them had the keyboard to go dead. And I won't even start on the tons of problems we had with the Thunderbolts. All of these companies are about the money first, that doesn't mean they have to sacrifice anything. Hell no one is more about money than Apple but they still consistently have the best build quality out there.
And personally between the last HTC phones ive had, i've had more problems than i've had with the GS2. But hey, that's just me.
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This belongs in the Market Place
Unless you plan on keeping it then have this thread deleted
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The Epic 4G is just too damn wide. I almost bought it before I held it. The Evo has great dimensions. Plus the low resolution will be annoying.
I have a Nexus S too and the resolution isn't great even on the 4" screen. It'll be awful on 4.5.
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The Epic 4G is just too damn wide. I almost bought it before I held it. The Evo has great dimensions. Plus the low resolution will be annoying.
I have a Nexus S too and the resolution isn't great even on the 4" screen. It'll be awful on 4.5.
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Yeah, I LOVE typing on a narrow screen! The tiny little buttons are awesome for my big ol' hands !
/endsarcasm