Make that 399.... haha
Here's a link:
Only $15.92 each
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ieee_raider said:
Make that 399.... haha
Here's a link:
Only $15.92 each
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
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How's it work?
Do you just plug it into the phone, to the TV? Or is there also Another cable needed to plug into the TV?
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How's it work?
Do you just plug it into the phone, to the TV? Or is there also Another cable needed to plug into the TV?
Thanx...
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Buy the adapter and a standard HDMI cable. Done deal.
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How's it work?
Do you just plug it into the phone, to the TV? Or is there also Another cable needed to plug into the TV?
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Not quite, the adapter requires power so you also need to plug a standard charger into it, plus you need an HDMI cable to go from the adapter to the TV. Frankly for now it's a more cumbersome solution than micro-HDMI as in the previous EVO (& Moto phones), since that was a 1 cable/adapter solution (unless you also wanted to charge the phone)...
In the future TVs will have MHL ports tho and you'll be able to output from phone to TV AND charge off the same MHL/USB-to-MHL/HDMI cable. For now tho, we have to live with the MHL to HDMI adapter with a charger plugged into it. Personally I think HTC & Samsung jumped the gun with this, by the time people have TVs that make MHL a better option than microHDMI we'll already be looking at the next generation of phones (if not the one after that).
P.S. I don't think it's necessary to bump three old threads on the same topic to get an answer to a question that has in fact already been answered on these boards. Just sayin'... Search button works.
Just buy the micro HDMI That's powered for the phone
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spyke24 said:
Just buy the micro HDMI That's powered for the phone
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That... Doesn't exist. The EVO 3D doesn't even have a microHDMI port, and standard HDMI of any kind doesn't transfer power (that's what MHL is for, to eventually allow a single cable power/video solution, duh).
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Just buy the micro HDMI That's powered for the phone
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The Evo 4G uses Micro HDMI. The Evo 3D uses MHL.
They are down to $14.02 on Monoprice now.
ONLY USB power
Is it just me - or using this monoprice adapter makes the phone charge in USB mode and not AC mode (50-90% reduction in charging current?).
I've tried several of my chargers that always report "AC charging" under settings, about phone, battery use (1000mA?)
but as soon as I plug in the monoprice MHL, it drops to "USB charging" (100mA - 500mA)?
I bought two of these Monoprice MHL adapters and both seem to do this. I've tried with four or five different micro-usb AC chargers and one DC cigarette lighter charger... all to the same result.
The result, for me, is that the phone charges at 1/10 the speed of normal - indeed depleting my battery even though it's plugged in to the charger (via the MHL adapter). Even turning my screen brightness all the way down and turning off all non-essential radios... still results in me not being able to watch a full movie before battery dies.
Is it just me or does MHL suck compared to the easy microHDMI of the evo4g?
Yeah it's kinda more cumbersome, eventually when TVs actually support MHL and we don't need these pass thru adapters then it'll be great as it'll be a single cable solution... It was implemented way too early on phones tho.
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Is it just me - or using this monoprice adapter makes the phone charge in USB mode and not AC mode (50-90% reduction in charging current?).
I've tried several of my chargers that always report "AC charging" under settings, about phone, battery use (1000mA?)
but as soon as I plug in the monoprice MHL, it drops to "USB charging" (100mA - 500mA)?
I bought two of these Monoprice MHL adapters and both seem to do this. I've tried with four or five different micro-usb AC chargers and one DC cigarette lighter charger... all to the same result.
The result, for me, is that the phone charges at 1/10 the speed of normal - indeed depleting my battery even though it's plugged in to the charger (via the MHL adapter). Even turning my screen brightness all the way down and turning off all non-essential radios... still results in me not being able to watch a full movie before battery dies.
Is it just me or does MHL suck compared to the easy microHDMI of the evo4g?
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I can definitely confirm you're limited to USB power using the Monoprice adapter. BUT I'm definitely not losing battery power that fast. In fact, if I'm playing movies off the memory card - I'm still charging the phone. If I stream something while connected, my battery will drain - but nowhere near as bad as you're reporting.
I guess your ability to charge while playing from SD card is to be expected. Radios/streaming take a lot of power.
My normal use-case is 4G streaming netflix, hulu, youtube, hbo go via the MHL/HDMI to a pico projector. And it kills the battery REAL quick even with screen backlight to lowest, bluetooth and wifi off. I'll start experimenting with underclocking undervolting... to find the sweet spot of acceptable fps playback but little enough power to get under that threshold of charge from the adapter.
Anyone recommend a good program to see mA currently being used vs. mA drawn from charger?
Yeah, MHL seems like a great idea - except that not a single TV or device provides it. To me, seems a bad / annoying decision like providing USB5 in 2011... sure it's a cool technology - but isn't the point to be able to interface with EXISTING infrastructure? Annoying also that we NEED to plug in charger to use it.
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Hello there,
I bought Samsung's MHL to HDMI Adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MHL-HDMI-Adapter-Packaging/dp/B005LGUDKK/ref=pd_cp_cps_1) for my at&t SGS2, video and audio worked on my HDTV without hassle, but it did not actually charge phone's battery. when it was hooked up it kept 'rising bar' on battery icon in notification area and I was under impression it's truly charging as well playing the video on my TV, but it showed 30% batter warning that's when I realized it's not charging but faking to show charging!
Is is normal or abnormal, but I read in wiki or somewhere when it's hooked on MHL to HDMI Adapter/dongle SSGS2's designed to charge the battery as well, I need to your help to determine if I have a faulty one or I should turn on/off anything on phone!
Thanks in advance!
It will only charge your phone if the TV is a MHL compliant TV. I don't think any TVs on the market are compliant yet.
There should be a spot on the adapter to plug your charger into. That is the solution for non-compliant TVs. Did you plug your charger into the adapter?
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Thanks quarlow for quick reply. Yes I indeed plugged the charger into Adapter in order for it to work, that worked flawlessly, but the question is why the battery icon on my phone was showing 'charging bar' while it was not actually charging, that's mysterious.
My TV may be not MHL complaint as it's 2 yrs old already, but MHL complaint TV's don't need the MHL adapter be powered by external chargers, if I am right.
Thanks!
I too have an MHL adapter but it isn't the official "Samsung" one, but it will charge the phone overnight, but I've never left the device plugged into a tv and the adapter for an extended period of time.
I imagine that the adapter needs to draw power to send an image out to the TV, and the phone simply assumes that a charger is plugged in but rather than actually getting a charge the power is being diverted into the MHL adapter, and maybe a little bit is going to the phone but not enough to offset the drain of displaying an image on an HDTV.
I'll give it a test drive tonight and see if I get any different results, but I bet I have the same result.
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I too have an MHL adapter but it isn't the official "Samsung" one, but it will charge the phone overnight, but I've never left the device plugged into a tv and the adapter for an extended period of time.
I imagine that the adapter needs to draw power to send an image out to the TV, and the phone simply assumes that a charger is plugged in but rather than actually getting a charge the power is being diverted into the MHL adapter, and maybe a little bit is going to the phone but not enough to offset the drain of displaying an image on an HDTV.
I'll give it a test drive tonight and see if I get any different results, but I bet I have the same result.
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Much appreciated !
From what I can tell the stock charger is only 700MA and will charge the phone slowly when not in use, however if it is inuse I am sure it will only be able to keep up with the power used.
I use an HTC charger most of the time it is a 1000MA charger and seems to be a bit faster. I have not tried this with the MHL connector tho.
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xisruno said:
From what I can tell the stock charger is only 700MA and will charge the phone slowly when not in use, however if it is inuse I am sure it will only be able to keep up with the power used.
I use an HTC charger most of the time it is a 1000MA charger and seems to be a bit faster. I have not tried this with the MHL connector tho.
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I believe this is your answer as well. I did not have the opportunity to test drive the MHL adapter last night, but what I would suggest is turning off whatever you aren't using while streaming. Check out the link below, and the last review for a similar problem from another MHL adapter, although MHL allows charging I imagine if you read the spec on it (the tech spec), it probably only supports 500 mAh max. Although it costs $100 to read the draft spec (which is stupid).
I will find out if I experience the same drain as well but I imagine what is happening is the Wifi/Data connection is draining faster than the charge is going into the battery, which is probably why standard use doesn't cause a problem. However streaming coupled with whatever else is going on is probably the culprit. So I'd suggest if you are going to stream anything while connected to disable non essential services (Sync, other data connections, bluetooth) and clear RAM so only what you want is actually running.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p..._id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=4#feedback
TXFLGO05 said:
I believe this is your answer as well. I did not have the opportunity to test drive the MHL adapter last night, but what I would suggest is turning off whatever you aren't using while streaming. Check out the link below, and the last review for a similar problem from another MHL adapter, although MHL allows charging I imagine if you read the spec on it (the tech spec), it probably only supports 500 mAh max. Although it costs $100 to read the draft spec (which is stupid).
I will find out if I experience the same drain as well but I imagine what is happening is the Wifi/Data connection is draining faster than the charge is going into the battery, which is probably why standard use doesn't cause a problem. However streaming coupled with whatever else is going on is probably the culprit. So I'd suggest if you are going to stream anything while connected to disable non essential services (Sync, other data connections, bluetooth) and clear RAM so only what you want is actually running.
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So you mean if phone is hooked up with MHL adapter while it's not actually streaming , the battery percentage should go up (meaning charging) like 8% ->to 9% -> 10% ? I can try this.
I know the MHL adapter will charge your phone if you aren't streaming, I had mine plugged in sent text message, watched a video clip I shot, looked through pictures, and left it plugged in. I also used to charge my phone via the MHL adapter (charger into MHL into phone) regularly but the charger kept popping out of my adapter if I checked my phone.
I'll look into it more this weekend and get back with you about it.
Can confirm this is indeed a problem. Would recommend under clocking the processor
Until it's unbearable and try again.
My processor is oc'd on demand but it drained it really fast. Probably a glitch in their version of GB.
Sorry I don't have better news!
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Thanks Guys!
I did kinda experiment, MHL adapter is indeed charging the battery while streaming, but battery drains faster than being charged, this is the outcome.
1. I plugged the phone while it's not streaming ..battery percentage increased from 78 ->79->80% and so on.
2. I took the phone off the MHL adapter and played the same video (flash based) it drained 10% of battery in 20 minutes.
3. I hooked the MHL adapter/charger and streamed the same video (flash based) it drained 5% of battery in 20 minutes.
I would like to conclude, MHL adapter charged the battery, but flash based video streaming drained the battery faster than the rate in which the battery was being charged.
I just got my microUSB to HDMI adapter from Monoprice and it works well. However, is it supposed to maintain current to the phone? I have it all plugged in and I get an orange light on the phone but I lost 10% battery power using it for 15 minutes. Doesn't seem right?
P.S. Monoprice customer service is excellent. I can't speak to the longevity of the products but the service is excellent.
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I had the same issue with the same Monoprice MHL adapter, even when 'charging' the system with a 1A wall plug.
Ozy666 said:
I had the same issue with the same Monoprice MHL adapter, even when 'charging' the system with a 1A wall plug.
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What is a 1A wall plug?
For the record, I am using the OEM plug connected to a microUSB cable I bought from Monoprice.
Uh oh. Did we get screwed?
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I used an AC outlet 1 amp USB charging plug to power the system with a standard micro-USB cable.
People have observed problems with charging the Rezound through a car dock, so maybe it's related to that problem as well.
I tried charging using the Monoprice cable and it charged fine. If we were unsure before, I can say for sure now that it is the adapter. I don't know if it's the one sold by monoprice or, like you said, a bug in the system. Guess I can only watch 60 min. of video (tops and end up with a dead phone) or I'm out $7... kind of think I'm out the money... and no need for the cables I bought with it. Hope others read this.
The other Monoprice cables are fine. No beef with them.
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I asked Monoprice about it. Here's what they said....
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Hello Mr. Paul,
I understand that there may be an issue with your MHL adapter you had purchased. One thing to keep in mind is that our phones are really powerful now and draw a huge amount of power. So one thing to first consider is your power draw, secondly remember most androids can tell whether it’s connected to a computer usb port or AC power supply by checking if the data pins are shorted together. Since the data pins will be in use with the MHL adapter it will never register as an AC power supply and will not draw more than 500ma of power available to a computer usb port. This is not a limitation of the MHL adapter, but rather a design flaw in the implementation of MHL itself on the phone and perhaps design flaw is a little harsh but with the implementation of the MHL on the phone, not the adapter itself. Hopefully this clears up some things for you and if the adapter isn’t going to quite work out for you I can still issue an RMA for a return for you if you like I would just need an order number to get the process started.
Thank you
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Again, good customer service. Unfortunate about the phone limitations.
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Anyone know if this is a hardware or software issue?
feralicious said:
Anyone know if this is a hardware or software issue?
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Based on the information from tech support above, it sound like a hardware issue.
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It is a hardware issue, the official HTC MHL adaptor does the exact same thing. (I have two of them)
~John
Yeah, I thought it might be something like that. People were able to fix the car dock charging issue by shorting the data pins, but obviously that won't work for the MHL adapter.
I ordered one from monoprice too, I'll test it when I get home from vacation.
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jmorton10 said:
It is a hardware issue, the official HTC MHL adaptor does the exact same thing. (I have two of them)
~John
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Yeah, I thought it might be something like that. People were able to fix the car dock charging issue by shorting the data pins, but obviously that won't work for the MHL adapter.
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I wonder if a Y adapter out of the phone to split the adapter and a charging cable would work? If there is such a thing for micro usb.
Don't think so. The phone won't draw the higher 'AC' charging current unless it sees that the data pins are shorted. If the data pins are shorted, you won't be able to get data out for the HDMI connection.
Basically, while it's nice to have only one port to keep things simple, a separate HDMI port and USB port for charging would have worked better in this case.
Well then I'm returning for a GNex.
If it's tethered via usb to a computer with an HDMI out to TV/receiver can you stream from the Rezound? And would the charge via usb be enough to keep it alive for a movie?
If not then I'm definitely dropping mhs. Connection problems and this issue... Bah.
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Maybe depends on what else was drawing power on your phone. If you turned off everything else, maybe you would have enough charge to stream a movie. My battery was dropping pretty fast, but I didn't try to optimize by turning off mobile data, wireless, etc...
feralicious said:
Well then I'm returning for a GNex.
If it's tethered via usb to a computer with an HDMI out to TV/receiver can you stream from the Rezound? And would the charge via usb be enough to keep it alive for a movie?
If not then I'm definitely dropping mhs. Connection problems and this issue... Bah.
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That would be exactly the same for the same reason, while connected to your wall charger the phone can receive 1000mA and will be in "AC" mode, when connected to your computer or another device which uses the data pins your phone will be in "USB" mode and can only receive 500mA, since your phone is capable of using as much as 1000mA this will not be enough to charge your phone if you are doing anything power intensive like say playing a movie etc. It will only supplement the battery power and keep it from draining so fast.
It should make it through a movie though. I have not tried mhl so I don't know what it draws from the phone. If you instal "battery monitor widget" from the market it will tell you what your draw is and will keep a history log of it with posts every 5 min, try playing a movie then go and check the log and see what it drains on average.
My phone easily makes it through a movie if I start with a fully charged battery, although it does steadily drain it.
As far as the nexus, if anything it is probably even worse with the bigger screen.
~John
does the screen need to be on for MHL output to a monitor or TV?
mc_365 said:
does the screen need to be on for MHL output to a monitor or TV?
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On mine, the screen turns off as soon as it shows on the TV. If you unplug the connection, phone screen comes back on.
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jmorton10 said:
My phone easily makes it through a movie if I start with a fully charged battery, although it does steadily drain it.
As far as the nexus, if anything it is probably even worse with the bigger screen.
~John
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Are you using the phone to watch? Meaning is your screen on? It would seem that's the only way the screen size would matter. If you brought up the nexus due to my comment it was just a joke because of all the warring threads. I'm in love with the Rezound.
From the "Ultimate AT&T Galaxy Note Accessory Guide" thread:
fbauto1 said:
13. Car Charger + Power Inverters
$10 -- PowerGen Dual USB 2A Heavy Duty Ouput Car Charger for Apple iPad 2, iPhone 4 4s 3Gs 3G, iPod Touch (USB Cable not included) --- Review
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Has anyone else used the PowerGen car charger with the Note? I have a handful of other ones that all claim to fast-charge devices, but apparently it only works with iPhones and iPads. But since the PowerGen unit is on the list, can I assume people have used it and confirmed it will give me a 1A charge rate on the Note? I need a charger that can keep up with the Note occasionally drawing 1.4 A or more (display 100% brightness, GPS, LTE, Bluetooth all active, running Navigation).
A quick search for "powergen" in this forum only brings up the above thread.
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
I am using my car charger for galaxy tab 10.1 (2.0 amp) and it is working much better than any of the 1 amp chargers I have tried, OEM, boxwave, etc...
I also use the GT 101. 110V charging brick, so when I travel, only one brick and two cables. My experience is that the 2 amp charger works really well and will charge the phone while using GPS full time, where the OEM charger and other 1 amp chargers either maintain charge, or slightly discharge.
Thanks for the confirmation! Of course, now I discover Amazon won't ship that to Canada, and amazon.ca does not carry it. :crying: I'd go see what TELUS has to offer, but I'm sure it will be A) expensive and B) not have dual USB ports, or perhaps not even a detachable cord.
If you do find one, also buy a charge-only usb cord.
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tdamocles said:
If you do find one, also buy a charge-only usb cord.
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Is that still needed if the charger itself correctly supports fast charging? The cord I use now is the one from my Touchpad. I get 1 A to the Note from the AC plug, and the Touchpad gets around 1.8 A. I do also have a charge-only cable (much thinner cord, only two wires), but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
taob said:
Is that still needed if the charger itself correctly supports fast charging? The cord I use now is the one from my Touchpad. I get 1 A to the Note from the AC plug, and the Touchpad gets around 1.8 A. I do also have a charge-only cable (much thinner cord, only two wires), but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge. I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable. The phone sees what pins are connected and determines if it is going to charge in usb charge mode(<=500ma) or AC charge mode(>=500ma).
tdamocles said:
The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge. I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable. The phone sees what pins are connected and determines if it is going to charge in usb charge mode(<=500ma) or AC charge mode(>=500ma).
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So you use the Touchpad USB micro cable to charge your Note in the car? I thought the cable is too short? I am looking for a LONG USB micro cable that is shorted so it will give >500mA.
I am planning to buy the PowerGen but I need recommendation on the CORRECT USB cable that is long enough.
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slapshot591 said:
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
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What cable do you use?
tdamocles said:
The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge.
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I don't think it is, because it also works as a normal USB data cable. If pins 2 and 3 are shorted (D+ and D-), then the cable become "charge only" and cannot be used for data.
I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable.
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Then it sounds like that car charger was an "iPad-compatible" one, i.e.: it does not have D+/D- shorted out to indicate to non-Apple devices that it is capable of more than 500 mA.
lanwarrior said:
So you use the Touchpad USB micro cable to charge your Note in the car? I thought the cable is too short?
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The cable is about a meter in length. I only need about half that to reach from the plug to the phone mount on the dash.
taob said:
I don't think it is, because it also works as a normal USB data cable. If pins 2 and 3 are shorted (D+ and D-), then the cable become "charge only" and cannot be used for data.
Then it sounds like that car charger was an "iPad-compatible" one, i.e.: it does not have D+/D- shorted out to indicate to non-Apple devices that it is capable of more than 500 mA.
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So then how does it charge fast then? If the cable isn't shorted? Motorola does the same thing. IIRC its a shorted setup to allow for fast charging. All of my USB cables come from Samsung, HP, and Motorola and I use them as data cables as well
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erick161 said:
So then how does it charge fast then? If the cable isn't shorted?
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You short the pins inside the AC adapter or car charger, rather than the cable. If I understand correctly, the danger of using a charge-only cable is if you plug it into an actual USB port that isn't designed to supply more than 500 mA. Your device could then try to pull down, say, 2000 mA and potentially damage the power supply on your laptop or desktop.
taob said:
You short the pins inside the AC adapter or car charger, rather than the cable. If I understand correctly, the danger of using a charge-only cable is if you plug it into an actual USB port that isn't designed to supply more than 500 mA. Your device could then try to pull down, say, 2000 mA and potentially damage the power supply on your laptop or desktop.
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Ahh OK. Well, the cigarette lighter/USB converters must act like shorted out wall chargers.
That's my setup.
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I'm using the Rocketfish 3.1A Model# RF-M657D with my Note. While using Google Nav, lowest brightness, keys backlight off, Sync off, HSPA+, the phone still loses charge (albeit, slowly). I'm assuming this is because the charger is not internally shorted between pins two and three as it is marketed as a iPad/iPhone charger. I'm using a Belkin Data/Charge cable so I know that is not shorted.
I have been doing some reading and last night, I purchased the "Satechi Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S (I can't post links yet, google it.) so I will report back when I receive and pair it with the Rocketfish.
One thing I can't understand is how some of you have reported 1600mA from your car chargers. I am reading that without this adapter/cable mod, the Note will only run 460mA or so. With the adapter/cable mod, the Note's hardware maxes out at 960mA. Also, is their an app that allows me to see how much amperage the Note is receiving or are you guys pulling out the multimeter?
slapshot591 said:
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
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Where/how do you get this info? Asking because I'm curious to see how my car charger does. It has usb ports rated at 2A, and I think it's 2A shared instead of per port, but want to see how it actually does when plugged in.
btswein said:
I'm using the Rocketfish 3.1A Model# RF-M657D with my Note. While using Google Nav, lowest brightness, keys backlight off, Sync off, HSPA+, the phone still loses charge (albeit, slowly). I'm assuming this is because the charger is not internally shorted between pins two and three as it is marketed as a iPad/iPhone charger. I'm using a Belkin Data/Charge cable so I know that is not shorted.
I have been doing some reading and last night, I purchased the "Satechi Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S (I can't post links yet, google it.) so I will report back when I receive and pair it with the Rocketfish.
One thing I can't understand is how some of you have reported 1600mA from your car chargers. I am reading that without this adapter/cable mod, the Note will only run 460mA or so. With the adapter/cable mod, the Note's hardware maxes out at 960mA. Also, is their an app that allows me to see how much amperage the Note is receiving or are you guys pulling out the multimeter?
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My rocket fish model must put out more than yours. My pic is above your post. With Google Nav, Google play music (streaming, not native music), full sync, brightness to at least 50% it only lost 4% over 30-40mins.
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erick161 said:
My rocket fish model must put out more than yours. My pic is above your post. With Google Nav, Google play music (streaming, not native music), full sync, brightness to at least 50% it only lost 4% over 30-40mins.
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From what I read, your charger is an .5 amp.
It's not like my phone dies or anything, but it'll lose like 5% an hour and I could be exaggerating. Are you using a charge-only cable or modded cable/charger at all? Like I said, I think this phone is only pulling down 460mA without said mod and I find 1600mA to be incorrect as I read the Note will only pull down 960mA max. We'll see what this adapter does for my charge times.
btswein said:
From what I read, your charger is an .5 amp.
It's not like my phone dies or anything, but it'll lose like 5% an hour and I could be exaggerating. Are you using a charge-only cable or modded cable/charger at all? Like I said, I think this phone is only pulling down 460mA without said mod and I find 1600mA to be incorrect as I read the Note will only pull down 960mA max. We'll see what this adapter does for my charge times.
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They only thing I'm using is that exact setup posted. RF adapter and a Motorola atrix desktop dock charge cable.. (basically just a longer version of the standard wall charger)
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erick161 said:
They only thing I'm using is that exact setup posted. RF adapter and a Motorola atrix desktop dock charge cable.. (basically just a longer version of the standard wall charger)
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Ah, charge-only cable is the main factor here.
btswein said:
Ah, charge-only cable is the main factor here.
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OK, I lied, I'm using the OEM cable that came with the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the longer cable from the desktop dock. I just checked my car and that's the cable that's in there.
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Not sure how to display Note 3 on a big screen before. But now it's very clear. :victory:
Cause finally found a Video on MHL to HDMI Converter Adapter Review for Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9000 N9005 N9002. This is also a reference for you guys who want to display screen of note 3 on a big HDTV. Hope it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NjUJN10m_Q
MHL to HDMI Adapter for Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Could also just use Chromecast
aaa111sss said:
Not sure how to display Note 3 on a big screen before. But now it's very clear. :victory:
Cause finally found a Video on MHL to HDMI Converter Adapter Review for Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9000 N9005 N9002. This is also a reference for you guys who want to display screen of note 3 on a big HDTV. Hope it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NjUJN10m_Q
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Thats a mhl 1.0 adapter. Gotta get yourself a mhl 2.0, I got this one. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ENETITI/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'll try to make a video review of it when I have some time.
mikemq2003 said:
Could also just use Chromecast
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Never try that before. anyway, thanks for your reply.
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Thats a mhl 1.0 adapter. Gotta get yourself a mhl 2.0, I got this one.
I'll try to make a video review of it when I have some time.
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No, it's mhl 2.0. They have using a Micro USB 5 Pin Female to 11 Pin Male Adapter. And your link doesn't show that it can work with Note 3.
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No, it's mhl 2.0. They have using a Micro USB 5 Pin Female to 11 Pin Male Adapter. And your link doesn't show that it can work with Note 3.
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Well if it were truly 2.0 it wouldn't need a power source other than the phone, and I assure you the one I recommended works with the note 3 considering I use it on a pretty regular basis.
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Well if it were truly 2.0 it wouldn't need a power source other than the phone, and I assure you the one I recommended works with the note 3 considering I use it on a pretty regular basis.
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The difference bewteen MHL 2.0 and 1.0 is not at the power source. Your recommendation also have a power port. It also need power supply.
Samsung 2.0 smart adapter does require external power and is able to work with HDMI TVs(from wiki ).
I ordered this one from Amazon seller Eastwest Accessories (seems legit; many sellers sell counterfeits):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0080CXSOU/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The port is longer than typical microUSB and must be inserted further into the phone. It needed power to work for me and power needed to be connected to it before inserting into the phone.
I also ordered a Chrome Cast and I am considering ordering the AllShare Wireless Receiver from Samsung.com using the half-off code they send for registering my phone.
aaa111sss said:
The difference bewteen MHL 2.0 and 1.0 is not at the power source. Your recommendation also have a power port. It also need power supply.
Samsung 2.0 smart adapter does require external power and is able to work with HDMI TVs(from wiki ).
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I am fully aware of differences, its not the only one, but is most certainly a distinctive practical difference. The one I recommended does not Need a power supply other than the phone (compatible ones such as the N3), but does have it there incase you want to charge the phone while using it. It provides 300mah when plugged in.
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Thats a mhl 1.0 adapter. Gotta get yourself a mhl 2.0, I got this one. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ENETITI/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'll try to make a video review of it when I have some time.
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This is the way to go. The one in the OP looks like there's too many components needed for it to work. This one from Amazon does not need a power supply or an 11-pin adapter. Just plug and play. I just got mine a couple of days ago and it's perfect!
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How about power consumption without power charger?
With MHL 1.0 adapter, I got 1% drop each 2.5 minutes when watching movies or browsing.
myself11 said:
How about power consumption without power charger?
With MHL 1.0 adapter, I got 1% drop each 2.5 minutes when watching movies or browsing.
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You mean you weren't able to charge simultaneously? Were you using the stock 2-amp Samsung charger?
No. I don't like using MHL and charging the phone at the same time. It can't be good to battery, with all the heat and heavily discharging while charging.
MHL 1.0 without charging (and lowest brightness):
- stock video player: 20 minutes, 6% drain
- youtube, nba app, coursera app with wi-fi on: 20 minutes, 8% drain
- MX player: 20 minutes, 10% drain
What I would like to know is if MHL 2.0 adaptor (without charging) drains less battery.
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No. I don't like using MHL and charging the phone at the same time. It can't be good to battery, with all the heat and heavily discharging while charging.
MHL 1.0 without charging (and lowest brightness):
- stock video player: 20 minutes, 6% drain
- youtube, nba app, coursera app with wi-fi on: 20 minutes, 8% drain
- MX player: 20 minutes, 10% drain
What I would like to know is if MHL 2.0 adaptor (without charging) drains less battery.
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If the battery controller and ppwer management are smart enough it should switch to external power once the battery is charged. Heat will also drop because the battery is neither charging nor discharging.
I'd be more concerned with the extra cycling the battery is going through without charging. Obviously, they originally expected you to charge while outputting video, so I trust the engineers who would know better.
Anyway, what MHL1.0 dongles even work without charging? It seems you've been using one.
I'm using MHL adapter from Samsung (official accessory for S3) and it works. Only adapter + HDMI cable, no power, no USB cable required. but FPS are way worse. it's only good for watching movies and not playing games.
Ok how are you guys getting this to work? I've tried it with an MHL 2 adapter (for S3, S4, Note 2 and higher) and I get nothing. I had one of the expensive MHL1 adapters with the 5 to 11 pin adapter that "kinda" worked, but the adapter made it a flaky connection, so I returned and went to the MHL 2 - 11 Pin only to HDMI - nothing...zip, zero, nada. Have tried netflix, MX, etc.
Does screen mirroring or airplane mode need to be on or something?
Baffled
Should be plug n pray, but try mirroring if that is an option
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Ok how are you guys getting this to work? I've tried it with an MHL 2 adapter (for S3, S4, Note 2 and higher) and I get nothing. I had one of the expensive MHL1 adapters with the 5 to 11 pin adapter that "kinda" worked, but the adapter made it a flaky connection, so I returned and went to the MHL 2 - 11 Pin only to HDMI - nothing...zip, zero, nada. Have tried netflix, MX, etc.
Does screen mirroring or airplane mode need to be on or something?
Baffled
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I believe I've got the same one hurdlejade has but mine didn't work unless I plugged power into the MHL adapter BEFORE inserting it into my Note 3 even though it shouldn't have needed power at all.
Does Vic Tsing MHL converter work with Receivers?
For those who have the Vic Tsing MHL converter from Amazon has anyone tested plugging this into a Receiver HDMI/MHL port. I have the genuine Samsung and that only works if you plug it into a TV.
Also for the discussion about charging. If you are using MHL output and have a power adapter connected you are not charging your battery. All of the output from the charger is being used to power the phone and the converter. This means less drain on the battery and it should run cooler. The phone itself will draw the same current whether it's coming from the battery or the adapter so it will run as hot either way. From memory mine ends up draining about 1% every 15min using an adapter and the MHL 2.0 converter from Samsung.
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For those who have the Vic Tsing MHL converter from Amazon has anyone tested plugging this into a Receiver HDMI/MHL port. I have the genuine Samsung and that only works if you plug it into a TV.
Also for the discussion about charging. If you are using MHL output and have a power adapter connected you are not charging your battery. All of the output from the charger is being used to power the phone and the converter. This means less drain on the battery and it should run cooler. The phone itself will draw the same current whether it's coming from the battery or the adapter so it will run as hot either way. From memory mine ends up draining about 1% every 15min using an adapter and the MHL 2.0 converter from Samsung.
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Wait. So even the HDMI dock with USB hub that was supposed to turn the Note II into a desktop PC had less flexibility than a battery powered notebook?! At least a laptop can be plugged in to charge during use! If the docks do it but the MHL adapters don't, it sounds like a horribke tactic for selling more expensive docks.
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there is a way to increase the charge rate while connected to an MHL adapter.
I have a 2014 Civic Si that literally has an HDMI input for the head unit.
I bought an MHL adapter and it works very well other than a safety limitation that stops screen mirroring while driving, and the fact that even if I am just using it to get the best quality audio into my head unit with the screen turned off, the MHL adapter uses more current than it returns to the phone, resulting in battery loss.
I have the usb power connected to a 2 amp 12v charger that works fantastic when it is just connected with a regular micro usb cable so I know its not the charger.
I have found some evidence that there is a mod that can basically tell the phone that it is connected via AC to take more current.
Would be awesome if someone could provide this, or another solution to this problem. I imagine there are a lot of people like me out there who like to use MHL adapters but don't want their battery to die.
Thanks
Check the quality of the cord. If it's some cheapo one from like eBay or something that may be the problem.
I've found that some of my older degraded cords won't charge the phone while I'm using it.
Also if you roll/folded the cord up sometimes it can pinch it just right to not supply the right charging power.
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Check the quality of the cord. If it's some cheapo one from like eBay or something that may be the problem.
I've found that some of my older degraded cords won't charge the phone while I'm using it.
Also if you roll/folded the cord up sometimes it can pinch it just right to not supply the right charging power.
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To be clear it does show that it is charging (via USB) but its using more current than its getting thus end result is the drain.
It could very well be the cable - hence why I am asking if anyone can recommend a tried and tested solution of MHL + charge that actually charges it quickly.
Thanks,
BDS