From the "Ultimate AT&T Galaxy Note Accessory Guide" thread:
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13. Car Charger + Power Inverters
$10 -- PowerGen Dual USB 2A Heavy Duty Ouput Car Charger for Apple iPad 2, iPhone 4 4s 3Gs 3G, iPod Touch (USB Cable not included) --- Review
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Has anyone else used the PowerGen car charger with the Note? I have a handful of other ones that all claim to fast-charge devices, but apparently it only works with iPhones and iPads. But since the PowerGen unit is on the list, can I assume people have used it and confirmed it will give me a 1A charge rate on the Note? I need a charger that can keep up with the Note occasionally drawing 1.4 A or more (display 100% brightness, GPS, LTE, Bluetooth all active, running Navigation).
A quick search for "powergen" in this forum only brings up the above thread.
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
I am using my car charger for galaxy tab 10.1 (2.0 amp) and it is working much better than any of the 1 amp chargers I have tried, OEM, boxwave, etc...
I also use the GT 101. 110V charging brick, so when I travel, only one brick and two cables. My experience is that the 2 amp charger works really well and will charge the phone while using GPS full time, where the OEM charger and other 1 amp chargers either maintain charge, or slightly discharge.
Thanks for the confirmation! Of course, now I discover Amazon won't ship that to Canada, and amazon.ca does not carry it. :crying: I'd go see what TELUS has to offer, but I'm sure it will be A) expensive and B) not have dual USB ports, or perhaps not even a detachable cord.
If you do find one, also buy a charge-only usb cord.
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If you do find one, also buy a charge-only usb cord.
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Is that still needed if the charger itself correctly supports fast charging? The cord I use now is the one from my Touchpad. I get 1 A to the Note from the AC plug, and the Touchpad gets around 1.8 A. I do also have a charge-only cable (much thinner cord, only two wires), but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
taob said:
Is that still needed if the charger itself correctly supports fast charging? The cord I use now is the one from my Touchpad. I get 1 A to the Note from the AC plug, and the Touchpad gets around 1.8 A. I do also have a charge-only cable (much thinner cord, only two wires), but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge. I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable. The phone sees what pins are connected and determines if it is going to charge in usb charge mode(<=500ma) or AC charge mode(>=500ma).
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge. I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable. The phone sees what pins are connected and determines if it is going to charge in usb charge mode(<=500ma) or AC charge mode(>=500ma).
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So you use the Touchpad USB micro cable to charge your Note in the car? I thought the cable is too short? I am looking for a LONG USB micro cable that is shorted so it will give >500mA.
I am planning to buy the PowerGen but I need recommendation on the CORRECT USB cable that is long enough.
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slapshot591 said:
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
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What cable do you use?
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge.
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I don't think it is, because it also works as a normal USB data cable. If pins 2 and 3 are shorted (D+ and D-), then the cable become "charge only" and cannot be used for data.
I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable.
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Then it sounds like that car charger was an "iPad-compatible" one, i.e.: it does not have D+/D- shorted out to indicate to non-Apple devices that it is capable of more than 500 mA.
lanwarrior said:
So you use the Touchpad USB micro cable to charge your Note in the car? I thought the cable is too short?
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The cable is about a meter in length. I only need about half that to reach from the plug to the phone mount on the dash.
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I don't think it is, because it also works as a normal USB data cable. If pins 2 and 3 are shorted (D+ and D-), then the cable become "charge only" and cannot be used for data.
Then it sounds like that car charger was an "iPad-compatible" one, i.e.: it does not have D+/D- shorted out to indicate to non-Apple devices that it is capable of more than 500 mA.
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So then how does it charge fast then? If the cable isn't shorted? Motorola does the same thing. IIRC its a shorted setup to allow for fast charging. All of my USB cables come from Samsung, HP, and Motorola and I use them as data cables as well
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So then how does it charge fast then? If the cable isn't shorted?
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You short the pins inside the AC adapter or car charger, rather than the cable. If I understand correctly, the danger of using a charge-only cable is if you plug it into an actual USB port that isn't designed to supply more than 500 mA. Your device could then try to pull down, say, 2000 mA and potentially damage the power supply on your laptop or desktop.
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You short the pins inside the AC adapter or car charger, rather than the cable. If I understand correctly, the danger of using a charge-only cable is if you plug it into an actual USB port that isn't designed to supply more than 500 mA. Your device could then try to pull down, say, 2000 mA and potentially damage the power supply on your laptop or desktop.
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Ahh OK. Well, the cigarette lighter/USB converters must act like shorted out wall chargers.
That's my setup.
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I'm using the Rocketfish 3.1A Model# RF-M657D with my Note. While using Google Nav, lowest brightness, keys backlight off, Sync off, HSPA+, the phone still loses charge (albeit, slowly). I'm assuming this is because the charger is not internally shorted between pins two and three as it is marketed as a iPad/iPhone charger. I'm using a Belkin Data/Charge cable so I know that is not shorted.
I have been doing some reading and last night, I purchased the "Satechi Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S (I can't post links yet, google it.) so I will report back when I receive and pair it with the Rocketfish.
One thing I can't understand is how some of you have reported 1600mA from your car chargers. I am reading that without this adapter/cable mod, the Note will only run 460mA or so. With the adapter/cable mod, the Note's hardware maxes out at 960mA. Also, is their an app that allows me to see how much amperage the Note is receiving or are you guys pulling out the multimeter?
slapshot591 said:
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
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Where/how do you get this info? Asking because I'm curious to see how my car charger does. It has usb ports rated at 2A, and I think it's 2A shared instead of per port, but want to see how it actually does when plugged in.
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I'm using the Rocketfish 3.1A Model# RF-M657D with my Note. While using Google Nav, lowest brightness, keys backlight off, Sync off, HSPA+, the phone still loses charge (albeit, slowly). I'm assuming this is because the charger is not internally shorted between pins two and three as it is marketed as a iPad/iPhone charger. I'm using a Belkin Data/Charge cable so I know that is not shorted.
I have been doing some reading and last night, I purchased the "Satechi Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S (I can't post links yet, google it.) so I will report back when I receive and pair it with the Rocketfish.
One thing I can't understand is how some of you have reported 1600mA from your car chargers. I am reading that without this adapter/cable mod, the Note will only run 460mA or so. With the adapter/cable mod, the Note's hardware maxes out at 960mA. Also, is their an app that allows me to see how much amperage the Note is receiving or are you guys pulling out the multimeter?
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My rocket fish model must put out more than yours. My pic is above your post. With Google Nav, Google play music (streaming, not native music), full sync, brightness to at least 50% it only lost 4% over 30-40mins.
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erick161 said:
My rocket fish model must put out more than yours. My pic is above your post. With Google Nav, Google play music (streaming, not native music), full sync, brightness to at least 50% it only lost 4% over 30-40mins.
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From what I read, your charger is an .5 amp.
It's not like my phone dies or anything, but it'll lose like 5% an hour and I could be exaggerating. Are you using a charge-only cable or modded cable/charger at all? Like I said, I think this phone is only pulling down 460mA without said mod and I find 1600mA to be incorrect as I read the Note will only pull down 960mA max. We'll see what this adapter does for my charge times.
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From what I read, your charger is an .5 amp.
It's not like my phone dies or anything, but it'll lose like 5% an hour and I could be exaggerating. Are you using a charge-only cable or modded cable/charger at all? Like I said, I think this phone is only pulling down 460mA without said mod and I find 1600mA to be incorrect as I read the Note will only pull down 960mA max. We'll see what this adapter does for my charge times.
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They only thing I'm using is that exact setup posted. RF adapter and a Motorola atrix desktop dock charge cable.. (basically just a longer version of the standard wall charger)
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They only thing I'm using is that exact setup posted. RF adapter and a Motorola atrix desktop dock charge cable.. (basically just a longer version of the standard wall charger)
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Ah, charge-only cable is the main factor here.
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Ah, charge-only cable is the main factor here.
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OK, I lied, I'm using the OEM cable that came with the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the longer cable from the desktop dock. I just checked my car and that's the cable that's in there.
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will the included USB cable that comes with the Note be able to charge the phone in my car if i plug it into lets say my iPhone auto adapter which has a usb port on it?
ARTAQaf said:
will the included USB cable that comes with the Note be able to charge the phone in my car if i plug it into lets say my iPhone auto adapter which has a usb port on it?
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You will be charged at much slower rate (limited to 500ma max), or not at all if your phone battery is almost dead. iPhone chargers are designed for iPhone only. You will need a Samsung auto charger (some other non-iPhone smartphone chargers may work too, just not iPhone chargers).
I just bought a cheap 5$ car charger USB adapter for the note will it work?
corey_r said:
I just bought a cheap 5$ car charger USB adapter for the note will it work?
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It will definitely work. The question with those cheap ones is, how long will it last. I usually try to find an OEM branded one like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250973439590#ht_2859wt_1000
Typically, chargers with USB port on it will only do slow charge. In order to support fast charge, you will need short out the data pins to allow phone to draw more than 500ma. Typically auto-chargers that comes with microUSB plug directly, such as the Samsung auto charger, will do so, asume your charger is rated to output more than 500ma.
ARTAQaf said:
will the included USB cable that comes with the Note be able to charge the phone in my car if i plug it into lets say my iPhone auto adapter which has a usb port on it?
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It will be able to charge it. Keep in mind IF your iPhone USB charger max current output (5V 1000mA) is LESS than the Note's charger output, it will take longer to fully charge - but it will charge and will NOT damage the phone.
If you're looking to buy a new usb charger, look for one with the highest mA output rating since whatever device you plug into it will only draw what it needs. ie, my iPad charger is rated @ 2A/2000mA so it covers every device I own (all rated for different current inputs from 500mA up to 2000mA) and that's the only usb charger I take when I travel since I just have to switch out cables to charge other devices. On the other hand, if I only had a lower current rating usb charger, my iPad (requires 2000mA) would be out of luck.
Current output info can be found on the respective charger of your favorite device.
Hope that helps.
it does help, thanx Rand! i cancelled my Amazon order...wish i saw this post sooner.
I have this works great with anything up to 2.1amps...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Belkin+...&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=1232905
I just bought this
Man I wish I saw this an hour ago I just bought this you think it's ok?http://www.ebay.com/itm/280818054928?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649:confused:
JGuinan007 said:
Man I wish I saw this an hour ago I just bought this you think it's ok?http://www.ebay.com/itm/280818054928?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649:confused:
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Looks like that charger is rated @ 700mA. It'll charge the note about 30% slower than the wall charger.
This is my car charger
http://www.proclipusa.com/brodit-de...ord-for-fixed-installation--513303-18842.aspx
poop i couldn't cancel my amazon order. well i 'm sure i'll still use it.
I noticed a lot of people want a fast charger for the Note. This charger is for the Touchpad. I have this and it works really well. It charges faster than the OEM charger that came with the Note.
Not to mention, it is on sale right now for less than $5. Go grab one. From past experience, I used this at 15% battery life and charged for an hour and I was back over to 80%.:victory:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho.../FB341AA?HP-TouchPad-Power-Charger&aoid=35252
Is the usb cable that comes with it the same as the note takes?they don't show a pic of the other end and is it a charge only cable?If yes and yes I'm a gonna get one.Thanks
technut said:
Is the usb cable that comes with it the same as the note takes?they don't show a pic of the other end and is it a charge only cable?If yes and yes I'm a gonna get one.Thanks
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Yes, it is a micro USB cable. One end is USB and other is micro USB. The cable length is longer than most phone cables. I haven't measured it, but from my plug to my desk, I still have excess cable compared to the original one from the phone.
Thank you, getting one!
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
deliriousbb said:
It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
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Firstly, I have tried to use with a 2amp charger that came with my SGT P1000.. NO DIFFERENCE...
SECONDLY, PULL OUT BATTERY AND READ!
Google for micro usb cable max output... You will get your answers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
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Well its $5, which is not worth this discussion, I'll gladly give this money even for the stock samsung charger.
i_max2k2 said:
Well its $5, which is not worth this discussion, I'll gladly give this money even for the stock samsung charger.
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Agreed! A good charger for cheap.
dx.varun said:
Firstly, I have tried to use with a 2amp charger that came with my SGT P1000.. NO DIFFERENCE...
SECONDLY, PULL OUT BATTERY AND READ!
Google for micro usb cable max output... You will get your answers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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You don't have to get your panties in a twist. Rather than just read forums and assume the worst of everything try it for yourself. I've tried both and it is faster. Just trying to help my fellow Note users to get the best out of their phones.
btw, what are you screaming about pull out the battery and read? you tell me what you want us to know. RATED: 3.7V; 1500mA... WOW ok that proves your point...sigh:silly:
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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As an HP TouchPad owner, I can confirm that the cable provided with the charger are 'special'. My TP will not charge with any other MicroUSB cable connected to the official charger, the same cables which won't charge the TP will charge the Note. (I also own the HP touchstone dock, which the TP spends most of it's life sitting on.)
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It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger.
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I have four different wall chargers, including two of this HP barrel adapter (one that came with the TouchPad, one that came with the Touchstone). With the supplied cable, it does charge the TouchPad very quickly. From webOS, the net charge rate is about 1.6 A with the screen on, so probably close to 2 A coming out the USB port.
However, when you plug a Note into this charger, the Note will still only draw 1 A. I have other AC chargers that are also able to supply 1 A to the Note, so in that respect this HP charger isn't anything special. However, it is only $5, which is a good deal.
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pTeronaut said:
My TP will not charge with any other MicroUSB cable connected to the official charger, the same cables which won't charge the TP will charge the Note.
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I've found that the microUSB cable that comes with the Note, when paired with the HP TouchPad's AC charger, will supply 2 A. At least, that's what the OS reports: /sys/devices/platform/usb_gadget/current-mA shows "2000". Plugging the TouchPad into the Note's AC charger shows a value of "900". Plugging it into my laptop's USB port drops that value down to "500", as expected.
I bought two a week ago off Amazon for $10 each. $5 each with free shipping is a steal. I picked up three more. Thanks for posting this deal. I get 1A charging with either the stock charger or TP charger. I like to have a few extra chargers to sprinkle around at home or work (for my Note and the other devices I own that charge off USB.... including a TP).
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Yes, it is a micro USB cable. One end is USB and other is micro USB. The cable length is longer than most phone cables. I haven't measured it, but from my plug to my desk, I still have excess cable compared to the original one from the phone.
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When you charge your phone using this HP microUSB cable, do you have issue with NO DEEP SLEEP when unplugging the Note from the charger?
There has been issues reported in XDA where, depending on the USB cables used to charge the Note (connected to computer OR power charger), if you unplug the Note, it will not go DEEP SLEEP, causing significant power drain.
This does NOT happen when the Note is charged using the cable that came with the Note.
Download Current Widget from the play store. Add widget to home screen and you will realize that your phone is not charging any more than 1 amp as designed.
Try the usb out from your pc and you will see about half an amp.
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I have the galaxy tab brick charger the HP touch pad charger and my note charging brick....the touchpad charger works faster...but I feel like it doesn't get fully charged..seems to die faster?. I used the galaxy tab brick...slow to charge warms my phone up nicely...I'd stick with the original note charger.
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lanwarrior said:
When you charge your phone using this HP microUSB cable, do you have issue with NO DEEP SLEEP when unplugging the Note from the charger?
There has been issues reported in XDA where, depending on the USB cables used to charge the Note (connected to computer OR power charger), if you unplug the Note, it will not go DEEP SLEEP, causing significant power drain.
This does NOT happen when the Note is charged using the cable that came with the Note.
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I charge my Note overnight using my Touchpad's MicroUSB cable plugged into the Samsung charger, and I don't experience any difference in power drain.
Where is that post from the guy who put all these petty arguments to rest with scientific tests of all the various options and results??
Good lord people it's a charger for a phone .. no need to get so heated!
(unlike my stock charger.. which gets very heated!)
great price!!!
ordered 3 of them
the price is way cheaper than just a single micro usb cable shipped from other stores
i have 3 already
1 at work, 2 for home.
definitely faster than OEM. I charge overnight, no issues. had for around 5-6 months now. and i can use the phone while charging.
fact is that it DOES charge faster.
i recommend it
WOW***
Great price I bought 2!
When ever I drive, I have my phone hooked up to my Escort Red Line radar detector and my car's stereo via bluetooth (both). In order for me to use the radar detector effective, I need to have GPS and Blueooth enabled. This is a HUGE SUPER OMG battery drainer for my amaze. 20 minutes drive kills about 35% of the phone's power. My radar detector offers a slot to charge my phone BUT it still drains, not enough juice flowing in. Someone said it is because it's probably a .5amp.
So I am running a extension from the 12v lighter that's in the trunk to the front of my car. Amazon has a generic 2.1amp for 3 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Heavy...121&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+amaze+car+charger+amp
But on ebay, I found the original HTC car charger for 15 bucks which is a 1amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Amaze-4...918506?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27c867022a
What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
The 2.1 amp is probably 1 amp per port. Although it does not seem to specify.
F9zSlavik said:
What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
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Right!:good:
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soundping said:
The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
Higher voltage will trip a warning window telling you to disconnect and use official HTC equipment.
The phone monitors input voltage to protect the equipment.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
I recently got an Amaze and am generally happy with it. The biggest problem I have right now is finding the right car charger for it because the car charger I previously used (a 1A monoprice car charger) doesn't give it enough charge. I have been reading through the forums and some has been saying that if the charger is not working properly, it will recognize it as charging via USB rather than AC. In my case, the phone seems to be reading it as charging through AC, but there still doesn't seem to be enough current going through it. The phone will only charge if NOTHING is going on (i.e. screen's off, no GPS, etc.). I've been using CoPilot GPS and it draws the battery like crazy. Anyone has any idea as to which car charger would work properly with the Amaze such that I'll be able to charge (or at least maintain the charge) while using it as a GPS? Do I need to go up to a 2.1A charger?
I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
I couldve sworn we talked about this months ago. Let me see if I can find the thread.
nguyendqh said:
I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
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you won't get the full 2.1a unless you usee a charge only cable or modify the charger as I stated above...
I ended up getting a 2.1A car charger and a USB charge only cable, and it's working perfectly. When I have the screen on full brightness and doing navigation with Co-Pilot GPS, my phone's no longer losing charge and is actually charging. The combo also works with my tablet as well.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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I have done this to every single one of my USB car chargers... not a single issue...
My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it charging. How can I fix this issue.
webb7735 said:
My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it charging. How can I fix this issue.
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Car chargers work much slower than a wall charger because of the output of it. If you have the screen on, using gps, and listening to music at the same time it won't charge or it will actually drain.
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webb7735;4216o87 said:
My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it chargine. How can I fix this issue.
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Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheap 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require. Also, don't forget to chech your usb cable. It may look fine, but could be stretched or damaged causing a bad charge connection. But definitely avoid cheap car chargers. Not only can they work sporadically, they may actually damage your phone.
MUOTE=BoostedB18C;42146532]Car chargers work much slower than a wall charger because of the output of it. If you have the screen on, using gps, and listening to music at the same time it won't charge or it will actually drain.[/QUOTE]
I have tried charging my phone with it turned off when its charging in my car i dont use it i just let it charge but it doesnt work. Its ok not a big deal i can charge it at home and get a good day and a half on a full charge. I was just wondering if there was a way to fix it.
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Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheal 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require.
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Thanks for the info. I will try that.
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Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheap 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require. Also, don't forget to chech your usb cable. It may look fine, but could be stretched or damaged causing a bad charge connection. But definitely avoid cheap car chargers. Not only can they work sporadically, they may actually damage your phone.
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This, I just didn't feel like explaining it all. Also using an inverter can cause problems with strain on the electrical load of the vehicle though. If you have a big truck, they are safe to use. If you have a civic, I wouldn't use one.
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Thanks for the info. I will try that.
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You are most welcome.
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This, I just didn't feel like explaining it all. Also using an inverter can cause problems with strain on the electrical load of the vehicle though. If you have a big truck, they are safe to use. If you have a civic, I wouldn't use one.
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I used one all the time when I had my Civic Si to power mine and a friends laptops when in town, we didn't have high speed at our houses and the provider wanted 50k to bring it, and I never experienced any issues with electrical strain. Im not saying it doesn't happen but with the newer vehicles it isn't that much of an issue.
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I used one all the time when I had my Civic Si to power mine and a friends laptops when in town, we didn't have high speed at our houses and the provider wanted 50k to bring it, and I never experienced any issues with electrical strain. Im not saying it doesn't happen but with the newer vehicles it isn't that much of an issue.
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Thanks for the info.
I just hooked up my new Plugable 7 port USB 3.0 switch and although the speed is fine I noticed that the N3 still only charges at a lowly 450mA. Knowing that it should be capable of more, up to 4A in total, I decided to try a trick I'd been using for my Galaxy Tablets. These tablets won't normally charge from a non Samsung charger but with an inline dongle they will.
So I put the inline dongle between the switch and the USB 3.0 cable and presto, 1800mA charging current to my N3. Of course there is no data connection at that point but it's one less samsung adapter I need to keep around.
You can find the dongles here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190677630730?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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I just hooked up my new Plugable 7 port USB 3.0 switch and although the speed is fine I noticed that the N3 still only charges at a lowly 450mA. Knowing that it should be capable of more, up to 4A in total, I decided to try a trick I'd been using for my Galaxy Tablets. These tablets won't normally charge from a non Samsung charger but with an inline dongle they will.
So I put the inline dongle between the switch and the USB 3.0 cable and presto, 1800mA charging current to my N3. Of course there is no data connection at that point but it's one less samsung adapter I need to keep around.
You can find the dongles here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190677630730?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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Umm dude use a normal charger oh i don't know the one it came with lol. I have no issue charging at 1800 mAh with standard charger. I understand you're using a port to connect other various devices but reason it's charging at that low rate is because it's USB and not seeing as AC. Just charge your phone in a wall socket and use your port for your other devices.
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how do you guys get 1800mAh on a USB port?
i can't get more than 450mAh from the USB port
It only goes above 1000+ from the wall
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CraigAmey said:
I just hooked up my new Plugable 7 port USB 3.0 switch and although the speed is fine I noticed that the N3 still only charges at a lowly 450mA. Knowing that it should be capable of more, up to 4A in total, I decided to try a trick I'd been using for my Galaxy Tablets. These tablets won't normally charge from a non Samsung charger but with an inline dongle they will.
So I put the inline dongle between the switch and the USB 3.0 cable and presto, 1800mA charging current to my N3. Of course there is no data connection at that point but it's one less samsung adapter I need to keep around.
You can find the dongles here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190677630730?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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I just ordered two of those. Thanks...for a really good idea.
XxLostSoulxX said:
Umm dude use a normal charger oh i don't know the one it came with lol. I have no issue charging at 1800 mAh with standard charger. I understand you're using a port to connect other various devices but reason it's charging at that low rate is because it's USB and not seeing as AC. Just charge your phone in a wall socket and use your port for your other devices.
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how do you guys get 1800mAh on a USB port?
i can't get more than 450mAh from the USB port
It only goes above 1000+ from the wall
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What are these people above talking about?
Their response is irrelevant to the OP's post.
Why not try to READ the entire post FIRST, stop wasting our time reading your irrelevant BS.
CraigAmey said:
So I put the inline dongle between the switch and the USB 3.0 cable and presto, 1800mA charging current to my N3. Of course there is no data connection at that point but it's one less samsung adapter I need to keep around.
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interestingly enough, it seems to only work on USB 3.0 ports
i have the cable version of that dongle you are using
on USB 2.0 ports still doesn't go over 1000 mAh, but it does double the usual rate of 450 mAh
cable quality seems to make a difference too
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What are these people above talking about?
Their response is irrelevant to the OP's post.
Why not try to READ the entire post FIRST, stop wasting our time reading your irrelevant BS.
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i did if you read my post you'd understand he did a trick to where it charges @ 1800mA in the usb 3.0 port which is essentially a wall socket. he uses a port for several devices, if he didnt care that he cant access usb then whats the point in wasting a space on a port and just use the wall socket.
What if you don't have a wall socket or forget to bring your AC adapter?
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What if you don't have a wall socket or forget to bring your AC adapter?
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Were are plugging in that usb port?
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A Laptop
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maybe you but the OP stated a 7 Port which means most likely it needs a power source i.e wall charger.
1. Even with an available wall power source, a USB Hub next to your keyboard is more convenient than the wall socket charger behind the computer.
2. A $5 adapter is cheaper than the original AC transformer.
3. You might not have the AC adapter with you when you're away from home but closer to another computer
4. A coin sized adapter is much easier to pack than an AC adapter
I'll be honest, I find myself in NUMEROUS situations where I have plenty of spare USB(3) ports but no spare wall plugs. My office is a prime example of this, from a 2-gang wall socket, we have 2x 8-socket extensions and those are all full. Some of those have another 4-gang extension coming from them, again full (mostly bloody adapters, so power draw isn't actually that higher - and yes we know it's a safety risk).
My computer, on the other hand, has something like 12 USB ports, of which about 8 are in use. Makes sense to me.
As someone pointed out the 7 port USB switch does have an AC adapter that provides 4A total. It's not that I don't have AC outlets at my desk, I have 10, but they're hidden behind a 400lb desk and not the easiest to get to whereas the USB switch sits within arms reach and is always on and available.
I also have several AC outlets around the house that have integrated USB charge ports. Given the number of devices that charge from USB these days these are very convenient but won't charge a Galaxy Tablet at all without the adapter. If you travel you will also find these at a lot of airports now too, usually located on the pillars in the waiting area.
In my experience at least it's a lot easier to find a spare USB port than an AC outlet, and that's assuming you have your charger with you. The adapter plug just helps you extract more charging current from what's available.