I'm a a newer android user but quickly picking up on custom ROM's, etc. I'm currently running Alien #4 with the Alien theme and the kernel that comes with alien. I'm always trying to test out new combinations of things to see if I can get the most performance out of my phone while still maintaining a great battery life. So it's a constant trade-off. So my question is
Is there a difference between Faux's stock kernel for the atrix and the one that comes with alien or are the both stock in the sense of the same one as if I were running the Gingerbread release from AT&T?
If I were to install the Faux or kohlk OC kernls, but not install SetCPU would they still run at the higher clock speeds or would they run at 1GHZ until I used SetCPU to overclock? If they only run at 1Ghz, would there be benefit to using those kernels instead? I'm assuming they have more optimizations than just the overclocking. I'm quite happy with 1Ghz as my phone is plenty snappy so I'd rather keep the good battery life of 1Ghz but maybe get some better optimizations if possible.
I understand I can run SetCPU to have it clock down the CPU, but I've tried that on a number of occasions and even with it supposedly capped at 1Ghz, I still saw SetCPU saying my phone was in the 1.1Ghz state a fair bit.
I have faux's 1.3 ghz kernel and my battery life is comparable to the stock 1 ghz kernel.
Faux's stock kernel is a more optimized version of the stock kernel and is pretty good but his best work is put into his OC kernels. I suggest going with one of those...and yes you would need setCPU to get it to run above 1 ghz.
Have you ever run a "quadrant standard" test on your phone? I ran one when I was stock and scored below 1750. When I was on Alien v4 with faux's 1.3 ghz OC, I hit 2500. Now that I'm on CM7 with the same OC (and a little undervolting) I'm scoring above 4700.
Yea I use quandrant quite frequently but for me quandrant scores are good but I use my judgement on which feels the best. I know its now scientific but it works for me.
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I've been running some really basic tests on the new Roms and kernels that are starting to pop up and I want to know if any of you agree with me on this. While using Cherryblur v1.4d and the stock ATT kernel I can get around 3500 on Quadrant Standard (I know its not the best benchmarking tool out there). Thats on a fresh reboot 2nd run. Then I flashed Faux123 OC, pushed the clock speed to max 1.1 and min 1.1, set on boot, ran the same test. Fresh reboot, 2nd run and got the exact same score...weird. So if this is the case whats the point of the OC? Has anyone else seen similar results? Or is there perhaps something I'm missing?
Hi,
You are only overclocking by 10%, even if it was 50%, Quadrant is not a cpu benchmark, what will impact it most is the 3D bits and the database tests. Data2Ext on the htc legend will almost double the scores with a fast external sd card used for data.
For these kernels you should be asking yourself, where did the source come from and is it a later version than what is compiled stock, and was it even designed for the Atrix?
Cheers!
Ya...quadrant isn't really designed for CPU but I'm pretty sure it takes it into some type of performance boost. Like on my Nexus the same .1 overclock boosts the Q score a good bit.
Yeah, quadrant scores are sketchy at best.
My cm7 nook color OC'd to 1300 scored 3100+
so i have always run overclock kernels w/out any problems. bali at 1.2, bullet at 1.42, bullet at 1.48, and i cant remember the name, but another kernel at 1.5. all without any problems.
I want to try to clock higher. I have tried the app Tegrak, while using bullet 1.48, but it wont let me clock past 1.48.
Is the only solution to try to build a kernel myself, are there any Vibrant kernels that clock faster then 1.5, or is there an app that will let me set my clock speed above the preset?
thanks
Glitch kernel for MIUI and CM7 allows clocking up to 1.7ghz. It's rarely stable, but if your CPU is capable, use the ML or LL versions and see how far you can go.
You'll have to be using MIUI or CM7, obviously.
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Glitch kernel for MIUI and CM7 allows clocking up to 1.7ghz. It's rarely stable, but if your CPU is capable, use the ML or LL versions and see how far you can go.
You'll have to be using MIUI or CM7, obviously.
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the thing is that im on always on 2.2 or 2.2.1
Yeah was gonna suggest glitch+cm7or miui but if you are on 2.2...
I think cmenard might have made a 1.54ghz bullet(only worked on some vibrants,needed good cpu)
can't remember if it was GB bullet or 2.2 though. google it yourself....
If you're not willing to move to MIUI or CM7, there's not much you can do. Regardless, 1.5ghz and above is rarely stable anyways. Only thing that has gotten me past 1.3ghz stable is the Glitch kernel with the medium leak CPU tweaks.
It is possible to build 1.7ghz frequencies to a froyo kernel(the kernel dev just have to know where to add it), but chances are few phones would be able to handle it, and battery life would seriously decrease at those frequencies. My opinion is 1.7ghz on a vibrant isn't worth it.
Just curious is most people who root/use custom ROMs overclock, and if so, what settings do you typically use in SetCPU?
I'm using a S2, rooted with latest Unnamed ROM and find myself contemplating if I should make any changes with SetCPU. Lots of options, and Unnamed has all the different governor options, etc. just really looking for some best practices that people who overclock often.
Would appreciate seeing what you consider to be stable overclock options that give a good boost without causing excessive heat/stability issues.
I'm coming at SetCPU with limited experience so I do appreciate any tips that might see rudimentary, or if there are better resources that teach about this I'd appreciate any links as would like to get a better technical understanding of all this. Thanks in advance.
I use No Frills CPU, and I just set it to 1.6 max/ondemand. Absolutely no heat issues or stability issues, so I just stuck with it. Battery life is good.
most maybe but only by a little bit. a good number of people underclock and undervolt their devices to try and get better battery life. to be honest, the newer phones dont need overclocking to handle the current apps and stuff. the older phones like the nexus one and older need overclocking tho. i leave my gs2 stock. what we really need is dual core support before OC becomes worth it on my phone. ymmv
I have never overclocked mine, phone runs smooth as butter at 1.2 so I don't see the need to go farther. Plus I like my battery lasting more than 24 hours...
I overclock my s2. im running unamed 1.3.0. I like run different speeds at different at different battery percents. 1.6 till 75% 1.4 till 50% 1.2 till 25% 1000 till 15% 800mhz till dead. i had some problems with 1.4 ghz but i tweeked the voltage and that did solved my problem. I'm at 50% battery with normal usage. display 1hr 25mn phone calls for 47min and android os for 56min. my phone doesn't get any hotter then it did before i overclocked. I just did it to say i did. It will prolly help a little unless you like emulators then it will help alot. i have to overclock my iconia a500 to 1.6 if i want to play n64 games.
I'm on UnNamed 1.3.1 with the latest entropy dd kernel and am very happy with the stock CPU speed
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Hello! i am in the process of overclocking my thunderbolt in order to get better performance with the eternity rom, and i was wondering what you guys oc your phones to? and if you do, what program/setting do you use to do so? (i plan to use a script in init after have found suitable settings)
I, personally, find it pointless to OC the Thunderbolt. The phone is fast and smooth enough for me on the stock speed, plus the battery life is bad enough without adding more strain to it.
However, if you insist on OC'ing, 1.2GHz is a safe bet. Some people can get to 1.4GHz, but then you run into freezing and random reboots. Also remember that individual phones handle overclocking differently. Where one phone can run perfect at 1.4GHz, another might freeze instantly when going that high.
Good OC'ing programs include SetCPU, No Frills CPU, and ROM Toolbox.
I don't overclock. That being said i have OC'd my phone b4 i have had it up to 1.8 Ghz stable, but it doesnt seem to make anything run faster. I use the Thundershed version of CM7 and its super fast. I dont think it could get much faster. and without overclocking i get better battery life.
thanks for the info actually ended up going with the lean kernel which is oc'd on the kernel level, works fairly well
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thanks for the info actually ended up going with the lean kernel which is oc'd on the kernel level, works fairly well
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Leankernel is tops. I use battsaver mode which is stock speed and undervolted. Smooth as butter on my phone.
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What's the best kernel for GB?
Most stable and overclockable.
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What's the best kernel for GB?
Most stable and overclockable.
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My favorite kernel is incredikernel, I havent had any problems with it and I like it because of the fast charge and the gpu overclock, you should try it
dsb overclocks to 1.8 Ghz
I don't know anything about Incredikernel
Stock kernel shows no issues due to its stock clocks/volts. I don't think rezounds are meant to pass 1700 clock as nobody can really maintain a 1836 OC without have a reboot/bootloops. There may be those that claim to be able to handle the speeds, but will surely bootloop when running Stability Test app.
I can run an OC but will eventually bootloops, around an hour of nonstop stability testing. I would recommend incredikernel beta5+ as OC is removed which eliminates these reboots/bootloops. This is the only kernel (incredikernel) I can run Stability Test for hours while undervolted without have a single reboot. Hope this helps!