I've been running some really basic tests on the new Roms and kernels that are starting to pop up and I want to know if any of you agree with me on this. While using Cherryblur v1.4d and the stock ATT kernel I can get around 3500 on Quadrant Standard (I know its not the best benchmarking tool out there). Thats on a fresh reboot 2nd run. Then I flashed Faux123 OC, pushed the clock speed to max 1.1 and min 1.1, set on boot, ran the same test. Fresh reboot, 2nd run and got the exact same score...weird. So if this is the case whats the point of the OC? Has anyone else seen similar results? Or is there perhaps something I'm missing?
Hi,
You are only overclocking by 10%, even if it was 50%, Quadrant is not a cpu benchmark, what will impact it most is the 3D bits and the database tests. Data2Ext on the htc legend will almost double the scores with a fast external sd card used for data.
For these kernels you should be asking yourself, where did the source come from and is it a later version than what is compiled stock, and was it even designed for the Atrix?
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Ya...quadrant isn't really designed for CPU but I'm pretty sure it takes it into some type of performance boost. Like on my Nexus the same .1 overclock boosts the Q score a good bit.
Yeah, quadrant scores are sketchy at best.
My cm7 nook color OC'd to 1300 scored 3100+
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I'm a a newer android user but quickly picking up on custom ROM's, etc. I'm currently running Alien #4 with the Alien theme and the kernel that comes with alien. I'm always trying to test out new combinations of things to see if I can get the most performance out of my phone while still maintaining a great battery life. So it's a constant trade-off. So my question is
Is there a difference between Faux's stock kernel for the atrix and the one that comes with alien or are the both stock in the sense of the same one as if I were running the Gingerbread release from AT&T?
If I were to install the Faux or kohlk OC kernls, but not install SetCPU would they still run at the higher clock speeds or would they run at 1GHZ until I used SetCPU to overclock? If they only run at 1Ghz, would there be benefit to using those kernels instead? I'm assuming they have more optimizations than just the overclocking. I'm quite happy with 1Ghz as my phone is plenty snappy so I'd rather keep the good battery life of 1Ghz but maybe get some better optimizations if possible.
I understand I can run SetCPU to have it clock down the CPU, but I've tried that on a number of occasions and even with it supposedly capped at 1Ghz, I still saw SetCPU saying my phone was in the 1.1Ghz state a fair bit.
I have faux's 1.3 ghz kernel and my battery life is comparable to the stock 1 ghz kernel.
Faux's stock kernel is a more optimized version of the stock kernel and is pretty good but his best work is put into his OC kernels. I suggest going with one of those...and yes you would need setCPU to get it to run above 1 ghz.
Have you ever run a "quadrant standard" test on your phone? I ran one when I was stock and scored below 1750. When I was on Alien v4 with faux's 1.3 ghz OC, I hit 2500. Now that I'm on CM7 with the same OC (and a little undervolting) I'm scoring above 4700.
Yea I use quandrant quite frequently but for me quandrant scores are good but I use my judgement on which feels the best. I know its now scientific but it works for me.
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Hello! i am in the process of overclocking my thunderbolt in order to get better performance with the eternity rom, and i was wondering what you guys oc your phones to? and if you do, what program/setting do you use to do so? (i plan to use a script in init after have found suitable settings)
I, personally, find it pointless to OC the Thunderbolt. The phone is fast and smooth enough for me on the stock speed, plus the battery life is bad enough without adding more strain to it.
However, if you insist on OC'ing, 1.2GHz is a safe bet. Some people can get to 1.4GHz, but then you run into freezing and random reboots. Also remember that individual phones handle overclocking differently. Where one phone can run perfect at 1.4GHz, another might freeze instantly when going that high.
Good OC'ing programs include SetCPU, No Frills CPU, and ROM Toolbox.
I don't overclock. That being said i have OC'd my phone b4 i have had it up to 1.8 Ghz stable, but it doesnt seem to make anything run faster. I use the Thundershed version of CM7 and its super fast. I dont think it could get much faster. and without overclocking i get better battery life.
thanks for the info actually ended up going with the lean kernel which is oc'd on the kernel level, works fairly well
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thanks for the info actually ended up going with the lean kernel which is oc'd on the kernel level, works fairly well
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Leankernel is tops. I use battsaver mode which is stock speed and undervolted. Smooth as butter on my phone.
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So I just flashed the new AOKP build for our Transformer Prime and I've ran the Benchmark test three different times at different times in the day and I can't get above 9650, which is lower than the stock score. Anyone one else having this occur?
I've changed governor in the tests as well from "on demand" to "interactive" to "performance" and one test i even upped the minimum clock freq. to 1200mhz and the max to 1600mhz.
Any suggestions or comments are welcome. Thanks.
leave it on interactive. its the rom causing the low score. try virtuous rom or icilicious rom n I'm sure scores will be higher. I've scores way higher than you on stock rom and 1.6Ghz overclock. even on stock n no overclock I get higher than that. that AOKP rom not fully ready yet. its still an alpha or beta build. so lots of work to make it faster n more optimized still needs to happen.
plus whenever running benchmarks, make sure to clear all background tasks and after a fresh reboot. that'll give best results.
Thanks for your suggestions. I rebooted and closed any open processes and changed governor to "interactive". Got a score of 9556 again.
I think I'll just take your advice and stick with Icylicious or Virtuous. Any recommendations?
I have sammy kernel installed, i tried all the included governors and schedulers, all of them OC'd at 1.9Ghz and i still don't get better Vellamo or GL benchmark results. Stock unrooted, i was able to get 2350 in vellamo, now OC'd to 1.9 i barely get 2100.
Has anybody else not seen any improvement while OCing and actually felt a decrease in performance??
not all CPUs are the same, yours might not be able to handle 1.9 try bumping it down a little. There are also a lot of variables in these crap if you ask me benchmark apps, just because you OC doesn't mean the scores will always go up. Just use it and see if it feels smoother to you or if it's sluggish
Well i'm able to go down to 1ghz and still get a very smooth experience...even the vellamo score was around 1800 for a 1/3 of the cpu
I'm really satisfied with the S4 Snapdragon, it barely heats up
Benchmarks mean nothing. My old atrix had better benchmarks than the gs3 (both stock) and that phone is half as fast as this one. Go by feel and day to day use. Not buy some random numbers that appear on your screen.
If it make you feel better I officially give your phone a bench mark of 999999!
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First off, let me say that this is more a question out of curiosity so I can learn more about the android system then real concern.
That having been said, I have noticed that AOSP roms consistently score lower on benchmark software (Antutu to be exact) then Sense based roms, even though its immediately obvious that the AOSP roms are faster in the "real world". I have read on another phone's forum that it was OpenGL based for that phone, is it the same thing for our Rezounds, or are there other factors at work?
I do realize that benchmark scores are not the end all for performance representation, however the fact remains that there has to be something that is bringing down the AOSP score, hence why this is a question of curiosity .
That is an observation I have not made. The scores are pretty much the same for me. Just ran a 6336 on Antutu. Without overclocking, I run about the same on Sense.
I just had to rerun to make sure I wasn't making an a** of myself....
Both runs were using Neo's roms (adrenaline and rage)
on adrenaline with dsb's kernel and no OC I got a 7125
on rage running the bundled kernel i got a 6577
I've never seen over 7k on this phone without some heavy overclocking. What version of dsb's kernel are you using? A lot of them don't hold stable clocks. Try a benchmark with the stock kernel. It's a much more fair test since the AOSP is basically stock.
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I was running his 2.01 kernel with 192 min and 1.5 max using smartassv2 gov for the posted score.
Will have to get back to you on the stock kernel numbers as I am currently back on AOSP since I am playing around with themeing it, however for what it's worth this phone consistently (10-12 different benchmark runs) scored between 7000 and 7200 on the dsb kernel.
Yup I got over 8200 with my friends class 10 card in... With the standard one I get just under 7800 with OC and around 7200 without on DSBs kernel on 2 different roms...
Does anyone even use geekbench?
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First off, let me say that this is more a question out of curiosity so I can learn more about the android system then real concern.
That having been said, I have noticed that AOSP roms consistently score lower on benchmark software (Antutu to be exact) then Sense based roms, even though its immediately obvious that the AOSP roms are faster in the "real world". I have read on another phone's forum that it was OpenGL based for that phone, is it the same thing for our Rezounds, or are there other factors at work?
I do realize that benchmark scores are not the end all for performance representation, however the fact remains that there has to be something that is bringing down the AOSP score, hence why this is a question of curiosity .
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Well Rezound is built for sense so you can expect it to be, but once we get a working OC kernel you will see asop jump up in benchmarks
In Antutu, I get around 6500 with "stock" based Sense 3.6 roms. Then Sense 4 came out and the Antutu scores are 1000 higher, my top was 7700. I don't know why Sense 4 runs so much faster, especially since it was ported to our phone. AOSP I think scores were in between, 7000 range? But I'm not certain. Anyway Sense 4 is blisteringly fast, Sense 3.6 is garbage, and AOSP roms are the fastest going between apps/launcher. Once AOSP gets more solid, I will probably switch full time, but ViperREZ Sense 4 has sooooooo many features (and speed) it is hard to put down.