Not possible to install cwm recovery via ROM Manager - HTC EVO 3D

At first,I get S-Off via Revolutionary tool!Then I flashed "cwm-4.0.1.4-shooteru.img" via fastboot and "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip" from sdcard.
But after downloading and install ROM Manager from Market it wont let me install
the new recovery img!
Phone freezes or get off and only boot to the HTC splash image.
I also tried to flash "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-fixed-unsigned.zip",but same problem.
Only solution to get phone working again,I did restore the backup of my
stock ROM!
Anybody have same problems with ROM Manager?

Ganii said:
At first,I get S-Off via Revolutionary tool!Then I flashed "cwm-4.0.1.4-shooteru.img" via fastboot and "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip" from sdcard.
But after downloading and install ROM Manager from Market it wont let me install
the new recovery img!
Phone freezes or get off and only boot to the HTC splash image.
I also tried to flash "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-fixed-unsigned.zip",but same problem.
Only solution to get phone working again,I did restore the backup of my
stock ROM!
Anybody have same problems with ROM Manager?
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I'm on a CDMA EVO 3D and I ran the revolutionary s-off process.
I would think the process would be the same between the CDMA and GSM versions, but I could be wrong.
I've seen on his twitter feed he has been making updates to the recovery. I had no issues opening the app, pressing download latest recovery and then pressing reboot into recovery. Worked flawlessly for me.
Does ROM Manager download the new recovery properly? Does it say it flashed the new recovery successfully? Does it reboot into the new recovery?
Which part of the process is not working for you?
The more detail you can provide the easier it'll be to help troubleshoot!

joeykrim said:
Does ROM Manager download the new recovery properly? Does it say it flashed the new recovery successfully? Does it reboot into the new recovery?
Which part of the process is not working for you?
The more detail you can provide the easier it'll be to help troubleshoot!
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I tried the first option "Install ClockworkMod Recovery" and choosed the EVO 3D
from list,but nothing happens.Also tried the last option from ROM Manager to
install the 5.0.1.0 recovery,but nothing happens too!
I got the "Rome Manager granted su rights" window but after this,phone
freezes and after removing battery and reboot,phone stucks on HTC splash image!

Ganii said:
I tried the first option "Install ClockworkMod Recovery" and choosed the EVO 3D
from list,but nothing happens.Also tried the last option from ROM Manager to
install the 5.0.1.0 recovery,but nothing happens too!
I got the "Rome Manager granted su rights" window but after this,phone
freezes and after removing battery and reboot,phone stucks on HTC splash image!
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I am guessing that you have a GSM phone since you have a Deutschland flag? I don't think that the CMW recovery in Rom Manager works on GSM, only CDMA. There is a recovery in the GSM section that is based on the CMW recovery. If I am wrong, let me know.
mein mutter ist hausfrau
Only thing I remember from German Class.

I'm having the same issue with my cdma!
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App

Boot into recovery menu works with ROM Manager,but can`t download
and install the newest cwm recovery!
The statusbar of downloading and installing the recovery shows always 0%
for 10 or 15 minutes and then phone freezes.
Maybe the mobile network is the problem,because ROM Manager says we should
use Wi-Fi connection!

Is there a way we can download the image of Clockwork separate from using ROM manager?

You can take a look at here:
http://www.clockworkmod.com/

oohaylima said:
Is there a way we can download the image of Clockwork separate from using ROM manager?
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Ganii said:
You can take a look at here:
http://www.clockworkmod.com/
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List of all recovery images
recovery-clockwork-5.0.1.0-shooter.img

@ganii
i had the same problem when flashing cwm to my evo 3d gsm. phone froze and had to do a stock restore.
you mentioned that it requires wifi to download correctly? did you by any chance try that?

Can`t test Wi-Fi connection,at the moment no internet at home
But I flashed official recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-shooter.img and
recovery-clockwork-5.0.1.0-shooter.img to my phone via fastboot
and no ones works.
So I think clockwork recoverys only available for cdma EVO 3D at the
moment.
Only recovery which works for EVO 3D gsm,I think,is
cwm-4.0.1.4-shooteru.img,which made by Revolutionary.

joeykrim said:
List of all recovery images
recovery-clockwork-5.0.1.0-shooter.img
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Hell yeah. Thanks a bunch!

go to koushs website and get the recovery image from here
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html
Download Android commander here:
http://androidcommander.com/
In android commander select phone at top, flash, recovery and choose the clockwork recovery image, simplest way. i've had to do this with multiple phones that would not flash clockwork through rom manager, even on og evos oddly enough. hope i helped!

TimidRat: I tried to do this, but I am not exactly sure how to flash the recovery from Android Commander. I tried to to highlight the image and click flash but nothing happens. Am I missing something? Thanks!

ridedalightnin said:
TimidRat: I tried to do this, but I am not exactly sure how to flash the recovery from Android Commander. I tried to to highlight the image and click flash but nothing happens. Am I missing something? Thanks!
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Afterbyou click flash click recovery and select wherever you saved the recovery image too.

Anyone having success in installing Clockwork manually through the Terminal Emulator? I installed the flash_image file, placed the image in the root of the sdcard, ,su'ed, entered flash_image recovery /sdcard/clockwork.img, but for the life of me it won't recognize the file giving the stupid no such file error. Grrrrrrrr....
What's bugging me is that this is how I did it for 2.3.3 while I was rooting it. Makes me want to throw something.

Not tested yet ,but why you don`t flash it as "PG86IMG.zip" from sdcard
via booting into bootloader?
Example attached:

Appreciate the link Ganii, but I enjoy doing it manually. However, I did find a substitute method that will install it without leaving the native android GUI. It's joeykrim's flash image gui app. It's pretty good and works great.Makes me a little bit lazy, but it'll have to do until I find a blog.so file.

Help me please some one. I am having a similar problem with my EVO 3D CDMA. I rooted via HTC method, install CWM, ROM Manager and every thing was fine. ROM Manager got a updated to flash latest CWM to 5.0.2.0. Didn't notice anything at first, but when I try to boot into CWM my phone just reboots itself instead of recovery. So I'm guessing I don't have any type of recovery. Someone please help me fix this!!!! Also one more ?, I am kinda new to all this I had a blackberry before getting the EVO 4G then move on to to the 3D anyway if I run the RUU will that erase my SD card?

New EVO 3D said:
Help me please some one. I am having a similar problem with my EVO 3D CDMA. I rooted via HTC method, install CWM, ROM Manager and every thing was fine. ROM Manager got a updated to flash latest CWM to 5.0.2.0. Didn't notice anything at first, but when I try to boot into CWM my phone just reboots itself instead of recovery. So I'm guessing I don't have any type of recovery. Someone please help me fix this!!!! Also one more ?, I am kinda new to all this I had a blackberry before getting the EVO 4G then move on to to the 3D anyway if I run the RUU will that erase my SD card?
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Go back into rom manager scroll to the bottom and flash alternate recovery amon-ra's, its much better than clockwork on the 4g, or use the instructions I posted above and do it through android commander. Also make sure fastboot is off under settings power...

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[Q] Having Problems Installing Roms

I have a HTC Evo 3D and i have rooted my phone using HTC's method and yes i am a noob to android. I have Android 2.3.4 (installed the update before i rooted). I have Rom manager on my phone and have already flashed clockwork mod recovery and downloaded viper rom 1.3. Now when i try to install it from the SD card all my phone does is give me 3 Pre installation choices:
1.Backup Existing Rom
2.Wipe Data and Cache
3.Wipe Dalvik Cache
and the 3rd option is aleady checked and i click ok and another screen pops up it says Press ok to reboot into Clockwork recovery mode and continue installation.
And all my phone does is restart and nothing happens can someone please tell me if im doing something wrong or am i missing something?
What recovery are you using?
A backup is always recommended.
Wipe Data means you clean up your personl settings and stuff.
Also Recommended when flashing a custom rom.
Just go ahead
Blade92 said:
I have a HTC Evo 3D and i have rooted my phone using HTC's method and yes i am a noob to android. I have Android 2.3.4 (installed the update before i rooted). I have Rom manager on my phone and have already flashed clockwork mod recovery and downloaded viper rom 1.3. Now when i try to install it from the SD card all my phone does is give me 3 Pre installation choices:
1.Backup Existing Rom
2.Wipe Data and Cache
3.Wipe Dalvik Cache
and the 3rd option is aleady checked and i click ok and another screen pops up it says Press ok to reboot into Clockwork recovery mode and continue installation.
And all my phone does is restart and nothing happens can someone please tell me if im doing something wrong or am i missing something?
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Suggestion: Don't use ROM Manager to try and flash a ROM. Boot straight into recovery mode (Volume Down and Power button) and do it from there. You will have more control over the process.
Blade92 said:
I have a HTC Evo 3D and i have rooted my phone using HTC's method and yes i am a noob to android. I have Android 2.3.4 (installed the update before i rooted). I have Rom manager on my phone and have already flashed clockwork mod recovery and downloaded viper rom 1.3. Now when i try to install it from the SD card all my phone does is give me 3 Pre installation choices:
1.Backup Existing Rom
2.Wipe Data and Cache
3.Wipe Dalvik Cache
and the 3rd option is aleady checked and i click ok and another screen pops up it says Press ok to reboot into Clockwork recovery mode and continue installation.
And all my phone does is restart and nothing happens can someone please tell me if im doing something wrong or am i missing something?
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I can't believe nobody has been in here to tell you this yet:
If you used HTC's method, unfortunately you are sol as far as flashing any kind of ROM that tries to reload even a stock kernel as part of the process.
Their method was/is a total sham, as far as most custom rom users are concerned.
Sorry, but you're gonna just have to wait for a brand new exploit.
Once again,
Never, ever, ever accept an OTA.
Sent from my Evo³d
mazook98 said:
I can't believe nobody has been in here to tell you this yet:
If you used HTC's method, unfortunately you are sol as far as flashing any kind of ROM that tries to reload even a stock kernel as part of the process.
Their method was/is a total sham, as far as most custom rom users are concerned.
Sorry, but you're gonna just have to wait for a brand new exploit.
Once again,
Never, ever, ever accept an OTA.
Sent from my Evo³d
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so is there anyway i can unroot my phone? Do i have to if i should wait for a new exploit. Or downgrade my android software? and thanks for helping a noob.
tpbklake said:
Suggestion: Don't use ROM Manager to try and flash a ROM. Boot straight into recovery mode (Volume Down and Power button) and do it from there. You will have more control over the process.
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I tried getting back into clockwork recovery after i rooted but i couldnt get back in.
No way to downgrade. Htc new stuff prohibits it. From all accounts, you have to wait for a new exploit.
Blade92 said:
I tried getting back into clockwork recovery after i rooted but i couldnt get back in.
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From what I've read in radom XDA posts, the HTC unlock method provides write access to only the recovery and system partitions of the device but deso not provide write access to the boot partition (where only the kernel is stored). Unfortunately, modifying only the system partition w/o access to the kernel/boot partition can be very limiting.
You should be able to boot into the bootloader by using the volume down + power, mentioned above. Once on the white bootloader screen, you should be able to select Recovery. This should load the clockworkmod recovery as you indicated in a previous post you loaded.
If it doesn't load the clockworkmod recovery but instead loads the stock recovery, the custom recovery wasn't flashed (loaded) properly. Will probably need to flash it again. ROM manager *should* properly flash the cwm custom recovery even on an HTC unlocked device, but this HTC method is very new and we're finding out more and more about its limitations.
Welcome to the Android world! Hope that helps!

Clockworkmod won't boot into recovery?

Keeping things short:
Update Clockworkmod via ROM Manager like a stupid coon, now it won't boot into recovery mode. I might have deleted my Updater.zip file on accident or the update did that? I'm unsure. Some help would be appreciated, and if someone could upload the Updater.zip file also so I can see if that helps?
Thanks
Am I allowed to self bump?
*does it anyway*
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
I am in the same boat, so I will bump as well. I unlocked via HTCDev.com if that makes a difference.
On hindsight, should add more to the story:
Unlocked via HTCDev.com.
Flashed cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter.img via fastboot
Flash su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip via recovery
Installed ClockworkMod
Attempted to install recovery via CWM, as it would not let me take a ROM snapshot without it
Now I am unable to boot into recovery mode. Attempted to manually flash recovery with CWM 5.0.1.0, CWM 4.0.1.5, and TWRP 1.0.2 with no success. All attempts to get into recovery mode bypass and go straight into the normal mode boot.
just like a dumb ass I did the same thing u guys did exactly now the **** don't work it won't go into recovery now I'm sitting here like ain't dis a *****
Are you trying to boot into recovery through rom mananger or by holding vol down and power button? Have you tried battery pull?
emptyaitch said:
On hindsight, should add more to the story:
Unlocked via HTCDev.com.
Flashed cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter.img via fastboot
Flash su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip via recovery
Installed ClockworkMod
Attempted to install recovery via CWM, as it would not let me take a ROM snapshot without it
Now I am unable to boot into recovery mode. Attempted to manually flash recovery with CWM 5.0.1.0, CWM 4.0.1.5, and TWRP 1.0.2 with no success. All attempts to get into recovery mode bypass and go straight into the normal mode boot.
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Did that, it works now, flash the older 4.0.1.4 of CWM to fix, all other versions/other recoveries don't work.
@titans10 yes, we did those steps..
zadias said:
Did that, it works now, flash the older 4.0.1.4 of CWM to fix, all other versions/other recoveries don't work.
@titans10 yes, we did those steps..
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I think too!
Because I flashed official recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-shooter.img and
recovery-clockwork-5.0.1.0-shooter.img to my phone via fastboot
and no ones works.
So I think official clockwork recoverys only available for cdma EVO 3D at the
moment.Same for TWRP recoverys.
Only recovery which works for EVO 3D gsm,I think,is
cwm-4.0.1.4-shooteru.img,which made by Revolutionary.
titans10 said:
Are you trying to boot into recovery through rom mananger or by holding vol down and power button? Have you tried battery pull?
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I had same issue. I did battery pull and than pressed the power down button and battery to manually go into recovery.
zadias said:
Keeping things short:
Update Clockworkmod via ROM Manager like a stupid coon, now it won't boot into recovery mode. I might have deleted my Updater.zip file on accident or the update did that? I'm unsure. Some help would be appreciated, and if someone could upload the Updater.zip file also so I can see if that helps?
Thanks
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Try open Rom Manager Again, and Select the First option, to Flash Recovery Again! If you have a WiFi connection you can Connect to, Try that Before Flashing the Recovery Again... Sometimes if you have a shaky signal you'll get a Bad Download!
GoodLuck!
Today is opened my Rommanager and try to flash cwm and now there is also a GSM version. And I can say it works like a charm.
CWM recovery 5.0.2.0 for GSM EVO 3D available in ROM Manager actually. However, it has the famous power-off-no-charging bug.
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515m using XDA App

[Q] i have evo 3d cdma 1.50 stuck on htc logo help!!

i have evo 3d cdma 1.50 s-on stuck on htc logo i unlock booloader via htcdev but when i write recovery custom recovery then isntall any rom still stuck on htc logo i write boot also but still stuck on htc logo i try to update offcial htc update its show security fail plz help how can make it work on any rom i dont care if i get root or not i just want to be able to use my phone
have you tried a full wipe before flashing?
What recovery are you using?
iTzLOLtrain said:
have you tried a full wipe before flashing?
What recovery are you using?
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ye i tried that i got team win recovery project 1.0.3 what can i do?
thanx
kaokollaa said:
ye i tried that i got team win recovery project 1.0.3 what can i do?
thanx
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Well there is your problem. Twrp sucks dude I suggest you get clockwork mod 4.0.1.4.
iTzLOLtrain said:
Well there is your problem. Twrp sucks dude I suggest you get clockwork mod 4.0.1.4.
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ok but how?
kaokollaa said:
ok but how?
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twrp 1.1.1 is the latest non-touch twrp recovery. if you want cwm, go to clockworkmod.com, go to rom manager, and look for evo 3d on the list of devices. 5.0.2.0 is the latest non-touch cwm recovery, and I would not recommend using cwm touch recovery.
you can also download rom manager from the play store and using the app to flash cwm recovery
w0rdOo said:
twrp 1.1.1 is the latest non-touch twrp recovery. if you want cwm, go to clockworkmod.com, go to rom manager, and look for evo 3d on the list of devices. 5.0.2.0 is the latest non-touch cwm recovery, and I would not recommend using cwm touch recovery.
you can also download rom manager from the play store and using the app to flash cwm recovery
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Clockworkmod 5.0.2.0 also sucks. tried it and had to do a full RUU restore.
you can download 4.0.1.4 from Here
I use twrp touch with htc dev unlock hboot 1.5 and haven't had any problems with it at all. Clockwork sucks, couldn't get latest version to work with it. Running infected rom haven't had any problems. I'll prob switch batch to the non-touch next time I flash just cause I would rather have something more stable and I don't care about touch but seems fine to me.
iTzLOLtrain said:
Clockworkmod 5.0.2.0 also sucks. tried it and had to do a full RUU restore.
you can download 4.0.1.4 from Here
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I never had an issue with 5.0.2.0 while I was using it, but okay. I'm using 4ext, I like it a whole lot better than cwm and twrp
w0rdOo said:
I never had an issue with 5.0.2.0 while I was using it, but okay. I'm using 4ext, I like it a whole lot better than cwm and twrp
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I guess different people have different issues. i had issues with twrp 2.0 and cwm 5.x.x.
But yeah im currently using 4ext with no issues. It works great.
can i flash cwm with twrp cuz i got no access to the system ?just recovery
No. You need to be in fastboot usb
iTzLOLtrain said:
No. You need to be in fastboot usb
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can you please tell me the adb codes and the way to do it please
i allready have adb
note: every time i try to flash anything it says e: cant open /tmp/sideload/package.zip
have the same problem,but i flash custom rom and flash ok,but stuck on logo htc any way

Q: Team win recovery will not read zip files when flashing

I am trying to flash a zip file for Google Now so that I can test it out. However, when I boot into recovery and try to flash the zip it says that it cannot read the file. The instructions for the Google Now installation says to use CWM. However, when I loaded CWM onto for the flash it would not work properly. Every time I tried to select "Flash zip from SD card" the screen would go blank and just stay like that.
Cliffs Notes: CWM is useless and TWRP won't read the zip file that I need to flash......does anyone have any suggestions?
Re download the file. Worked fine for me on twrp
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Did CWM get fixed for our phone? heh.. doesnt matter.. TWRP's new UI won me over long ago.
Rxpert said:
Re download the file. Worked fine for me on twrp
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
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Turns out my cable was bad and wasn't transferring files correctly. I switched cables, reloaded the zip file onto my phone and it worked flawlessly. Thanks for the advice.
Spyderekz said:
Did CWM get fixed for our phone? heh.. doesnt matter.. TWRP's new UI won me over long ago.
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Not sure if CWM was fixed or not. CWM has never been my recovery of choice though. On my OG Evo I used Amon Ra and on my LTEvo I use TWRP. I just loaded CWM because the instructions for that flashable file specifically said to use CWM so I figured I would load that just to remain consistent with the instructions. However, CWM was clearly not working properly so I immediately flashed back to TWRP in order to avoid further frustration.

[Q] Is there a CWM flashable file to get back TWRP?

I was only wondering if this was available since we can't flash recovery images on the opposite recovery. I have made a recovery image in TWRP but have not gone so far to not just flash CWM and make a recovery image that will serve as my new point zero. Just curious since I only saw flashable CWM.
MunkinDrunky said:
I was only wondering if this was available since we can't flash recovery images on the opposite recovery. I have made a recovery image in TWRP but have not gone so far to not just flash CWM and make a recovery image that will serve as my new point zero. Just curious since I only saw flashable CWM.
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Use the Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052788
or heres the TWRP thread but no CWM flashable http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045829
Balsta said:
Use the Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052788
or heres the TWRP thread but no CWM flashable http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045829
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the link you gave to TWRP recovery was exactly what i was looking for. In the TWRP website they have a flashable option for TWRP to use in whatever existing recovery you have, that is CWM for us. Under droidstyle's guide (there's the thread also in dev section too for CWM) there is also a link for flashable CWM so now im set.
Although you already found what you were looking for, you can also download/run the goo manager app, press menu->install open recovery script. That will install TWRP.
Sent from my SCH-I605
Thrillhouse847 said:
Although you already found what you were looking for, you can also download/run the goo manager app, press menu->install open recovery script. That will install TWRP.
Sent from my SCH-I605
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I was hoping this way would let me get out but Ive now lost any custom recovery while in paranoid android. So what i did was while in Jelly Beans rom is flash CWM recovery to then flash Paranoid. I then decided to go back to beans, and i tried to flash TWRP zip that i has to restore my recovery. That failed an i have no recovery. I only have android system recovery <3e>. I am currently trying the goo manager to get me back, but so far i dont think im doing it right ill keep trying.
...So with goo manager i cant flash back to beans, i cant flash CWM back on, and ive: installed open recovery script to to install the TWRP img file but it must not have worked, but i cant see anything to indicate not.
Ok so im am stuck with just the stock recovery. In goo manager it says the recovery was installed but if is reboot to recovery its just crappy old boring stock and if i try to flash anything from goo manager it just reboots to that same stock recovery. Anyone know how to get a custom recovery back?
MunkinDrunky said:
Ok so im am stuck with just the stock recovery. In goo manager it says the recovery was installed but if is reboot to recovery its just crappy old boring stock and if i try to flash anything from goo manager it just reboots to that same stock recovery. Anyone know how to get a custom recovery back?
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The TWRP in goo manager is not the correct one for our phone. I did the same thing and ended up in the same position as you. I used the suckitverizon file from Adams thread and odined it back on to the phone. If was in that position now I would use the newly released tool kit.
Good luck.
Geezer Squid said:
The TWRP in goo manager is not the correct one for our phone. I did the same thing and ended up in the same position as you. I used the suckitverizon file from Adams thread and odined it back on to the phone. If was in that position now I would use the newly released tool kit.
Good luck.
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Im downloading the toolkit now but in the meantime did you have to restart the whole process in the 3 step bootloader unlock or did you just start at flashing suckitverizon version 2 in odin? Im just wondering how safe that is.
MunkinDrunky said:
Im downloading the toolkit now but in the meantime did you have to restart the whole process in the 3 step bootloader unlock or did you just start at flashing suckitverizon version 2 in odin? Im just wondering how safe that is.
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No I did not have to start over. If I recall correctly, I put the suckit file in the pda box and hit start. You can read up on it in Adams main thread and I know there were a few other people in the same fix.
Good luck
Toolkit saved my bacon. Many lessons learned. so if i want to restore an image in twrp say from paranoid then i use cwn to flash to a rom that plays nice with twrp then flash twrp back then recover in twrp. Now if i get stuck the toolkit has the correct twrp and cwm for the verizon note ii.
spoke too soon i though at least getting cwm was all good. However the toolkit wont install TWRP which is what i have my backups made on. i followed all the step on screen and selected sch-i605 to be flashed in odin. I can only reboot into stock recovery afterwards. :crying:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2051992 This has been asked (by me) and answered (by awesome folks with more sense than me).
ok it all over. CWM can be had by flashing zip in twrp or through tool kit. twrp i only regained by odining again the suckitverizon from Adam's unlockbootloader thread.

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