Well guys i have been using this TP for about 2 weeks (I bought the 32GB with touchstone at the firesale price) and I must say its bad ass! Personally I think its a nice looking tablet and it feels good in the hand. It may not be the lightest but I personally dont really notice it " fituging my hand". Now let me say I have been using "Palm" for years and think WebOS is by far the best OS with the worst people behind it... but I digress. After the original Pri and all the promises "Palm" made about new hardware just to keep the loyal customers waiting I dropped them. I am now a loyal android user and am using my romed Epic 4g with no problems (waiting for that Galaxy S 2 to drop).
So after putting my TP to 1.5ghz this thing is an amazing tablet and as far as specs go there is not many duel care 1.5ghz 1gb or ram having tablets out there. Plus the GPU is pretty amazing (and I dont think we have even started to utilize it yet). So for 150 bucks I think I got a good deal. If they where to put honeycomb on it this thing would rock (not that I like HC more the WebOS but all the apps really make it worthwhile). Now my favorite thing by far is the Touchstone, I fell in love with it with the Pri and missed it with every phone since. Why no one else has "copied" it is beyond me (yea there is Power matt but its not even close). It is amazing, not only does it "look cool" but its nice to just set the phone/tablet down and not have to find cords to hook up. The feel of tablet of smooth and I really like it.. even better then the Xoom or Ipad2 (yes I have had both). But one of the best features is the "Beats Audio" speakers. This tablet really sounds amazing compared to any other tablet.
So I just wanted to share ... Thanks for reading.
[DISCUSSION] webOS - A Rock to be polished into a Diamond
I'm a cappy and touchpad owner. I don't feel the hype of android on touchpad. You guys take all that effort and money to make WebOs better. There are a handfull of tablets with android around but there's only one with WebOs. Isn't that unique. Make those hours count on something special, not on something
more of the same. Still, I love Android!
loro1575 said:
I'm a cappy and touchpad owner. I don't feel the hype of android on touchpad. You guys take all that effort and money to make WebOs better. There are a handfull of tablets with android around but there's only one with WebOs. Isn't that unique. Make those hours count on something special, not on something
more of the same. Still, I love Android!
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I also managed to get a stupidly cheap touchpad and I have to say, I really don't know why webOS has been taking such a beating. Ok, the app support is very limited but I really like it, ok i've OC'd and tweaked a little but im more than happy with its performance. The only thing that I am missing is VNC and yes I know there is a VNC app in preware but it doesnt work on the touchpad, certainly not without a hardware keyboard anyway.
There are several website sites that just don't work on any of the android browsers I've tried but the touchpad handles them flawlessly. I have skype video which I can't get on Android either.
I'll be keeping webOS unless two things happen...
1) Android is available as a dual boot solution
2) There is no performance loss running Android
I feel the hype, but I'm not sure why...
I have a nook color that I ported to android. Yes, I understand that it does not even come close to the hardware in the touchpad but webOS is so much more fluid than gingerbread.
I really do miss all the available apps for android but also really like how webOS handles certain things, very easy to learn. Might have to hold out converting my touchpad over until they get honeycomb.
Wish some devs would put their effort into making apps for the touchpad. With so many sold, there is a good market there. I am willing to pay for apps, I think many people are, but really, there are no good ones right now.
Things the touchpad needs:
FTP client
Be able to connect to ad hoc networks (for tethering) my rooted OG droid only supports ad hoc for tether
Better Browser (firefox!) i'd even settle for an xscope or dolphin port! The browser is surprisingly severely lacking
There are so many more apps I could use but would settle for the above.
This probably isn't the right sub-forum, but I kind of agree. I also have a Nook Color with CM7 and am loving the slickness WebOS. The lack of apps is disappointing, but on the other hand a lot of Android apps are nothing impressive. I'm really not sure if I would put Android on the Touchpad if/when it's easily available (of course, I already have two other Android devices at home).
Like the above, ad hoc networking, some browser options or plugins, and personally a better PDF reader would be great (ezPDF on Android is nice), along with others. Hopefully since the market has grown from the fire sale, some devs will write or port more apps.
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The lack of apps is disappointing, but on the other hand a lot of Android apps are nothing impressive.
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There are far too many pointless apps out there both in the android market place and the store for that "i-thingy" that people are always harping on about
My needs are simple...
1) A web browser that works and has decent flash support - Check
2) Skype Video - Check
3) SSH Client - Check
4) VNC Client - FAIL
5) Occasional HD video playing (Kinda check)
I'm really hoping that a proper VNC client is developed, then I can forget about android.
foobar1977 said:
I also managed to get a stupidly cheap touchpad and I have to say, I really don't know why webOS has been taking such a beating. Ok, the app support is very limited but I really like it, ok i've OC'd and tweaked a little but im more than happy with its performance. The only thing that I am missing is VNC and yes I know there is a VNC app in preware but it doesnt work on the touchpad, certainly not without a hardware keyboard anyway.
There are several website sites that just don't work on any of the android browsers I've tried but the touchpad handles them flawlessly. I have skype video which I can't get on Android either.
I'll be keeping webOS unless two things happen...
1) Android is available as a dual boot solution
2) There is no performance loss running Android
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I agree with you guys that WebOs isn't that bad... However, I am going to port Android on mine for sure. The problem is the severe lack of apps. Developers are not going to want to develop for it since the Touchpads are dead. Yes they sold a crap ton of them in a matter of days but who wants to develop for an Os that will most likely be dead in a matter of years.
Something I would really like to see is a split keyboard like Thumb Keyboard or Swifkey Tablet. And Ad-Hoc Support would be nice too.
That's just my 2 cents.
Well my problem is that the SSL web login for my university wifi doesn't even work on the touchpad, which pretty much deem the tablet useless.
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I dunno if you knew about this, but WebOS natively supports USB-Host accessories. Look at that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXRcvN50-nU (i am not the author, and not even an owner of touchpad yet)
it's on russian, but you can get the main idea: without any modifications, using microusb host cable and powered hub you can attach any USB KB to TP.
I have to say I agree with the OP in some sense. I'm an avid Android fan and I was once an avid windows mobile fan. WebOS seems like the marrying of Android, with its openness, and iOS, with its idiot proofness. I am excited about a dual boot but to be honest i won't see myself using android much on this tablet. I'm liking webOS more and more everyday.
i would actually want webOS with a sort of android app emulator if the apps is what you're after....otherwise i'm pretty happy with it, just wish someone would optimise the OS cuz i'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement
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I have to say I agree with the OP in some sense. I'm an avid Android fan and I was once an avid windows mobile fan. WebOS seems like the marrying of Android, with its openness, and iOS, with its idiot proofness. I am excited about a dual boot but to be honest i won't see myself using android much on this tablet. I'm liking webOS more and more everyday.
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I couldn't agree more, with the Touchpad updated to 3.0.2, overclocked to 1.8ghz on both cores and all the tweaks installed, it's a pretty good OS. I was looking ofrward to Android, now I think I'll stick with WebOS, or at most Dual-Boot, though as we've seen before, Android 2.3 doesn't work that fantastically on a tablet anyway...
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i would actually want webOS with a sort of android app emulator if the apps is what you're after....otherwise i'm pretty happy with it, just wish someone would optimise the OS cuz i'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement
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Did you load preware and overclock that helps smooth out the os quite a bit
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For me the 1990's era stock browser is the only major problem in the otherwise outstanding OS. I don't understand the logic of using such a basic featureless browser for such a critical aspect of the device.
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For me the 1990's era stock browser is the only major problem in the otherwise outstanding OS. I don't understand the logic of using such a basic featureless browser for such a critical aspect of the device.
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Yep. The awful browser and no alternatives is what makes webOS useless for me. Love the concept of the OS, but damn is it buggy. Have to reboot mine twice a day because the sound stops working. Haven't rebooted my iPad in over 3 months.
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I dunno if you knew about this, but WebOS natively supports USB-Host accessories. Look at that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXRcvN50-nU (i am not the author, and not even an owner of touchpad yet)
it's on russian, but you can get the main idea: without any modifications, using microusb host cable and powered hub you can attach any USB KB to TP.
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Tried this with my USB Host cable I have for my Xoom and it doesn't work. It does however work beautifully on my Xoom .
Is there something I have to load on the Touchpad for it to Work?
muyoso said:
Yep. The awful browser and no alternatives is what makes webOS useless for me. Love the concept of the OS, but damn is it buggy. Have to reboot mine twice a day because the sound stops working. Haven't rebooted my iPad in over 3 months.
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I don't understand how people are saying the browser is awful? Maybe I just haven't experienced the issues people are having. It loads fast, it renders the internet just as a desktop would, flash works flawlessly. This is by far the best web browsing experience i've ever had. The only other thing i would want is tabs and a search function. I know advanced browser has this but advanced browser is super buggy.
I think webos can be a real competitor to the ipad, but many of the blogs I've watched seem to downplay the touchpad. I think a lot of people fear the touchpad is taking all the attention away from other tablets and gadgets. I've seen lots of hope with the Amazon tablet, but if HP comes back with another round of $99 touchpads all other tablets will be sitting on their butts.
It cannot be said enough, webOS is the most complete and most functional multitasking mobile OS out there. My wife has been a webOS fan and we just got 2 Touchpads and we love them, so do our kids. The ONLY thing missing are some key apps (Netflix, Googles) or this pad would be unbeatable which it almost is right now.
Bxsteez said:
I don't understand how people are saying the browser is awful? Maybe I just haven't experienced the issues people are having. It loads fast, it renders the internet just as a desktop would, flash works flawlessly. This is by far the best web browsing experience i've ever had. The only other thing i would want is tabs and a search function. I know advanced browser has this but advanced browser is super buggy.
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Ive posted about it elsewhere so I'll make it short. Doesn't render pages right. Glitches text rendering sometimes. No background downloading in background cards. Multiple cards open leads to the browser never re-sharpening the text when switching between them occasionally (25% of the time prob) until you close the card and reopen a new one. No search in page. Barely any customization. Slower than my Epic4g and iPad 1 at rendering and downloading webpages.
Flash works alright though. I don't really get what there is to like about the browser. It would be awesome if I didn't have an iPad or android phone to compare it to I guess.
I just made a video. Loading engadget. Single core 800mhz Ipad 1 on the left, Dual core 1.5ghz overclocked Touchpad on the right. iPad is using Safari and loading with ads and all and Touchpad has flash OFF and is using an ad blocker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCmUyADNN4w
Pathetic performance by the Touchpad frankly.
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is this device worth <200$? opinions on your device please, and also thoughts on before/after android porting!
i have the option of getting a 16 or a 32 for <200$ and am wondering if this is a piece of junk or worth getting.
or if i should just get something like a kindle fire.
uses: entertainment, ereading, videos, games, actually wtf do people use touchpads for????
ICS source is out so HE** the F*** YES it's worth it!
it was worth it b4, now I'm going to be busy.
lol
I use my touchpad for everything I need to do. The webos side has good apps for work and the cm7 side gives me netflix, games, video, photos, skype, ect... the TP is a very usefull tablet. If you get one for 200 and find you don't like it, PM me and we might be able to work something out, especially if you get the 32GB unit.
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I just put CM7 Alpha 2.1 on it this weekend and it is amazing how well an Alpha is running on this thing. If you can get a 32 gig for less than $200 you aren't that far off from the fire sale price.
I have a Nook Color with CM7 as well. I think both size devices have their merits so it depends what you want to use them for.
seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
I actually like WebOS.
I'm in WebOS most of the time.
that might change once ICS comes over.
webOS, you will use most of the time because it's nice to be in and it's the most useful. You can get to where you need to be quick. Skype call? No problem. Email? Coming right up. And while I'm reading a Wikipedia page and Facebooking at the same time, I can buy a scooter from Amazon. Not to mention reading a magazine and downloading podcasts and listening to music. I can do every single one of those things, all at one time.
That's the point of getting a tablet, right?
That's just it. webOS puts you at the center of all the action. It's a tablet in the way it's supposed to be.
That's something no other tablet can do. Anywhere. It's unmatched. And on top of allllll that, you still have the latest version of Android. Useless?! It's the furthest thing from.
oh didnt know you can have BOTH android and webOS. weird.
why do people have gripes about webOS then?
i already have a samsung galaxy phone, so i dont want the same thing but bigger (unless i can read better on it)
Exactly.
In order to be a good operating system, everything has to come together. You cannot miss one thing. WebOS has an app store, but you won't see many big name companies (the ones that matter) developing apps for it.
The problem with A & I tabletwise is that it doesn't work that different from your phone.
Which means the productivity, is not there.
I'm in Android watching a YouTube video, but as soon as I open another webpage, the video stops.
I'm in iOS and I get an email, or I want to look up how to beat this level of Angry Birds, if I enter the Internet, bye-bye Angry Birds, I have to start all over.
Those are big problems. WebOS saved us from that.
While you can do more in webOS, the ironic thing is, there's less apps, so you can't use that fantastic multitasking on everything you would like to.
So webOS used to be on thin ice, but better apps are coming in.
Still, this is a big problem for any tablet maker. We need a system where you can just push apps to make them compatible with any tablet device, or we are going to be stuck with iOS and Android as the only operating systems there are.
drcrappants said:
seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
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If you don't mod the TouchPad, it's not truly a POS. with the original firmware, yes, it's the most laggy experience ever. But ever since the latest official firmware update, it becomes infinitely more usable.
If you apply the relevant preware patches and overclock on top of that, it becomes pretty darn snappy.
So WebOS is definitely still alive and kicking.
The latest CM Alpha is indeed impressive. But I still have trouble using it as my daily OS primarily due to the faster battery drain. But I'm sure that's just a temporary issue.
At the firesale price of $99 for a 16GB, it's a steal. I would say that it would even be worth it at $200.
But keep in mind that you're within range of getting one of these:
Kindle Fire is $199
Nook Tablet is $249
Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
Daughain said:
Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
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Same here, been my main computer for a week or two now. Except i exclusively use CM and haven't touched webos in a long time.
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Woth it? Well, if there will be a stable ICS port, and you understand what is a tablet and how you could use it, it's worth it, i guess. Personally, after i bought it i understood that there are quite few tasks that i could use a tablet for, so this thing just lies on my table, collecting dust.
Anyway, if you are going to buy TP NOW, better look in the Nook Tablet direction: for $250 you will have more compact tablet with better CPU/GPU and microsd slot.
I'm sitting at my laptop, but I'm using my TouchPad anyway because it's so fun to use.
I have to agree with Unrealwolf. If you have a purpose for a tablet, it is a good one for the price. It would be nice to have the SD Cord slot but the only reason I filled up my 16GB is because I put on 2GB of music and 20 full length MP4 movies.
At home I seldom use my laptop because I do all my email, social networking, and web browsing (ie. shopping, research, and forum updates) on a tablet (I have both a TP and a Nook Color). Very much worth it to me.
doh the deal got away
should i continue hunting or go for a fire/nook? not sure how well they compare but prices are close
Not too sure yet about the new nook tablet but the fire is getting some less than stellar reviews today. Seems to be a bit laggy. After using my touchpad for a while, I have a hard time going back to my nook color 7 inch screen. I am actually starting to develop apps in enyo for the touchpad. I really like webos as well as cm7. For me, the touchpad gives me the besr of both worlds.
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Im getting my touchpad on wednesday. 159 euros 32gb on Cyberport. Is it still worth it or shall i wait for kindle fire?
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Hi,
Just got a 32GB HP Touchpad. Had it charged up last night and spent a couple of hours on it. I also have a Motorola Xoom 32GB and Apple iPAD.
My first thought was immediately install CMW 7, but wanted to hold back and use WebOS for a months first.
Wanted to get everyone opinion on what they've used for so far. Are you on WebOS or you went to the immediate route of Android?
If I go end up going to CMW 7 or 9 and decided to revert back to WebOS, what is the procedure / process to bring back to stock?
Thanks,
i just got a 32GB a few days ago as well
i also have a ipad and a transformer... only reason i got the touchpad is to kinda beat on it
(use it in my car audio setup/media player for my 2 18" BTL's )
i installed android (xron cm7.1) right away as i felt webOS is just not well developed yet and the fact that i LOVE the openness of cm7 and android...
it is easy to go back to complete stock... about as hard as rooting a "new" phone (using CMD/ADB)
i recommend staying away from the android builds if you use it as a daily pad due to the bugs and wifi issues right now...
in my experience my wifi sticks and bugs are minimal but like i said... i use it to beat on and dont really care to much if it gets broken
now i plan on selling my ipad and transformer for a transformer prime in a few weeks but i am really starting to like the touch pad for its simplicity
I use it for web browsing in bed and on the couch. I stayed on webOS for a few days before giving android a try. I greatly prefer webOS for my use. CM7 is gingerbread, and I don't feel gingerbread is a good fit for a tablet. All the apps are just phone apps scaled. At least there are a few tablet apps for webOS.
My biggest reason for sticking in webOS is the cards. Its just so intuitive to multi-task, and navigate.
The next reason is the browser. The stock webOS browser is far better than any browser I have found for android. Its not perfect, but its smooth and has native good flash support. I also really like the TouchPad keyboard with the number row.
I think I will change my mind when ICS comes out for the TouchPad. I have an android phone, and love Android, but don't feel a phone OS is a good fit on a 10" screen.
Check out the forums on webosnation, formerly precentral. There is a great guide there for tweaking webOS, using preware. The add-on I use the most us the thumb controls for the browser, it means a swipe from off the left or right edge gives you back, forward, refresh etc, so I can use my TouchPad one handed most of the time.
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Another note: you don't replace webOS with Android. Its a dual-boot set up. When you power up the device you get a choice (cyboot in pre ware lets you change delay and default) of webOS or Android (or CWM). Right now there is no way to fully remove webOS. The devs have given the following reasons: most devs like webOS, and it gives you a contingency if something goes wrong, you have a stable usable OS to fall back on
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I am not sure what someone with a Xoom and an Ipad would use the Touchpad for, but I use mine as a laptop replacement for most things. I got mine the first day of the sale so I used WebOS for a few weeks until they got android on to it. I liked webos, but it was quite obvious that it wasn't anywhere near a finished product (touch not sensitive enough, many MANY browser issues [only some of which were taken care of by purchasing advanced browser], waiting for 10+ seconds for any app to open). Still I liked its concept and it did well enough. I didn't like the lack of apps (I took the TP with the HP BT keyboard to school to take notes), but I would just used the web based version of the things I wanted to do (google docs, etc) which kinda sucked since they werent touch optimized but what can you do?
Then, when it was available, I put android on it. I used android to mess around, but still used WebOS 98% of the time since android was incredibly buggy and unusable for my purposes (plus the Gdocs app didn't work - LOL!). Things went like this for about another month and when CM7 a2.1 came out I installed it and things really started to smooth out. There were still bugs (though I never had wifi issues), but then I found the XRON flavor of CM7 and Leo's tweaks seemed to make an enormous difference in usability. I pretty much have not booted into WebOS since this time.
I use the TP for web browsing, taking notes (cant wait until HC or ICS on here so I can use the ASUS supernote app), playing games, controlling my new Onkyo Receiver, watching TED talks... The BT keyboard greatly increases its usability (for me).
Now once again, there is nothing there that you couldn't do with your existing tabs. You may consider making it a bathroom TV, or a part of your car stereo system. There was more I was going to say, but I can't really remember.
smilepak said:
Hi,
Just got a 32GB HP Touchpad. Had it charged up last night and spent a couple of hours on it. I also have a Motorola Xoom 32GB and Apple iPAD.
My first thought was immediately install CMW 7, but wanted to hold back and use WebOS for a months first.
Wanted to get everyone opinion on what they've used for so far. Are you on WebOS or you went to the immediate route of Android?
If I go end up going to CMW 7 or 9 and decided to revert back to WebOS, what is the procedure / process to bring back to stock?
Thanks,
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quarlow said:
I use it for web browsing in bed and on the couch. I stayed on webOS for a few days before giving android a try. I greatly prefer webOS for my use. CM7 is gingerbread, and I don't feel gingerbread is a good fit for a tablet. All the apps are just phone apps scaled. At least there are a few tablet apps for webOS.
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You typed ALL of that on the Galaxy S II?! Wow! Lol! You must be a professional Text'er
I think that would be one reason and potentially major reason I would hold off CM due to it being Gingerbread. I might rethink once it get ICS.
Thanks for the feedback from everyone on this.
The minute I got the HP and installed Accurweather. The first thing came to mind for me was to Velcro to the kitchen backsplash and use it as a calendar / To-do/ daily weather & news device
The only thing is trying to properly hide the charge cable.
Wasn't really sure what I would use a tablet for when I got it. We have a netbook, a home theater PC connected to the TV, a netbook for the couch, and both my wife and I have smartphones (my infuse and her iphone). To be honest, I haven't used it as much as I would like. We did take it on vacation last week and it was great on the plane for watching a movie (used mobo player) and finding things in the city. Aside from that I'll poke around on in it while watching TV if the wife is on the netbook and I don't feel like coming back here to the office to use the real PC. I have a feeling I'll be using it quite a bit at work to surf and screw off when I should be doing other things lol
I got it and immediately put CM7 alpha 2 on it. Haven't had any wifi issues, but I do have some charging issues (won't charge in CM7 if it gets below like 20 or 30% battery). I think webOS is very pretty, but it seemed very slow to me and the lack of apps just completely killed it for my use.
Trying to figure out of I want to get at BT keyboard for it still....
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You typed ALL of that on the Galaxy S II?! Wow! Lol! You must be a professional Text'er
I think that would be one reason and potentially major reason I would hold off CM due to it being Gingerbread. I might rethink once it get ICS.
Thanks for the feedback from everyone on this.
The minute I got the HP and installed Accurweather. The first thing came to mind for me was to Velcro to the kitchen backsplash and use it as a calendar / To-do/ daily weather & news device
The only thing is trying to properly hide the charge cable.
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Most of my posts are from my Galaxy S II, I've definately typed some diatribes on this soft keyboard. The 4.3" screen is perfect for me for one handed thumb typing. Good auto correct helps.
The Touchstone may help with the kitchen placement. They are $40 shipped on amazon if you can be a little patient (the prices fluctuate daily). They look like a little easel, you set the TouchPad in, and it charges wirelessly. The TouchPad goes into Exhibition mode, to display a clock, pictures, calendar (I think), or other apps. My favorite is LCARS Clock.
It also works in Android. It enters the clock app to display the time and weather.
It will even charge if you have a case on it. You should be able to hide the cable fairly easily. Then when you want to use it, just grab and go. The Touchstone was the first accessory I bought.
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quarlow said:
My biggest reason for sticking in webOS is the cards. Its just so intuitive to multi-task, and navigate.
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I think I will change my mind when ICS comes out for the TouchPad. I have an android phone, and love Android, but don't feel a phone OS is a good fit on a 10" screen.
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This basically sums up my feelings. I've only owned my Touchpad for a week, but I find webOS does basically everything I need it to do. It's my only tablet, and I really enjoy the webOS experience.
I'll add that I was also extremely happy when I found out that Dropbox file opening and editing worked flawlessly right away.
There may be a limited number of apps, but the stock apps work really well in my opinion. Most other things that don't have apps can be found through the browser (at least for what I use). For example, a Netflix app might be nice, but Amazon Prime Instant Video works perfectly through the browser.
If there is ever a decent Android ICS release, I'll give it a shot. Until then, I'll probably stick with webOS. I already have a phone on Gingerbread.
I use mine for web browsing, email and basic document editing. Basically a laptop replacement.
When CM7 came out I was using that primarily, but as of late I've switched back to webOS. Not because I prefer it, but because Android simply cant hold a candle to webOS in terms of battery life. Most of what I do in Android can be accomplished in webOS, so while I dont like the OS as much I cant justify staying in Android for long.
If the battery life ever gets better, I'll switch back to Android. Alternatively, once ICS comes out I'll take another look since from what I've seen of it I like the ICS UI far more than webOS enough that I can overlook the battery issues.
Jotokun said:
I use mine for web browsing, email and basic document editing. Basically a laptop replacement.
When CM7 came out I was using that primarily, but as of late I've switched back to webOS. Not because I prefer it, but because Android simply cant hold a candle to webOS in terms of battery life. Most of what I do in Android can be accomplished in webOS, so while I dont like the OS as much I cant justify staying in Android for long.
If the battery life ever gets better, I'll switch back to Android. Alternatively, once ICS comes out I'll take another look since from what I've seen of it I like the ICS UI far more than webOS enough that I can overlook the battery issues.
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Battery life? My battery life on çm7 is tripple what it was on webos. I go atleast 3 days on a charge.
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Used WebOS for 1 day and then dual booted with the XRON ROM. I have occasional wifi issues on Android but it is stable enough to use it instead of a laptop for browsing the web, email, FB, LinkedIn, productivity apps etc. and of course games.
WebOS is nice but the selection of apps is minimal...if you don't care about that it is a nice UI. Install Preware to speed things up...
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Battery life? My battery life on çm7 is tripple what it was on webos. I go atleast 3 days on a charge.
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I get 3-4 days on webOS and 1 1/2 days on Android. While usable, I dont want to wear out the battery since I think good ones might be hard to find later.
Games, games, and more games. I have 150+ apps installed and 90% are games.
Using a sixaxis controller with GTA III, Backstab, Modern Combat 3, and many other games is just to cool!
for photo display
Mainly use it as a monitor during photoshoot.Use with eye-fi card. So far so good.Thanks to the CM7& Drink team
internet emails alerts calender, remote access to my lappy, Facebook, watching bbciplayer, watching movies while trying to go sleep, alarm clock....lecture and meeting notes....infact the only things i use my laptop (Asus G73) for are games Photoshop and design programmes that won't work on the touchpad
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Games, games, and more games. I have 150+ apps installed and 90% are games.
Using a sixaxis controller with GTA III, Backstab, Modern Combat 3, and many other games is just to cool!
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Same!
I used WebOS long enough to hit the shutdown button only. Alpha 3.5 has treated me well. I have the nes, snes, n64, psx, and gameboy emulators paired with two ps3 sixaxis controllers. This tablet runs emulators wonderfully.
Second to games I monitor my alarm system, control my googletv, adjust my home thermostats, and while not being directly used it is a battery backed up home security camera dvr via ipcam.
Thirdly I use it for book reading, netflix, rdp control of a home media server, and web browsing. The a.I.type intelligent keyboard is free on market and has a split keyboard that allows me to type faster than I could with swype.
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I get 3-4 days on webOS and 1 1/2 days on Android. While usable, I dont want to wear out the battery since I think good ones might be hard to find later.
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You won't "wear out the battery" by using it!
You'll end up getting more life out of it if you "work" it all the time.
You may have issues with battery stats as android battery monitoring is very unreliable so make sure you clear them on ever ROM flash while fully charged.
I got mine a few months ago. I tried to play with WebOS and it wasn't bad but compared to Android it did suck. Long boot times aswell as loading apps.
Nice idea but android is more complete.
Currently updating with each Xron ROM and its been fine, apart from the old issue with wifi and FCs.
Currently use it for a alarm clock and browse the internet in bed.
I agree with the using WebOS for a while. It's not a bad OS. I like the cards too, but i can't say wouldn't want more icons on the dock and it would be nice to have widgets to put on the desktop behind the cards. But I'm sure when the source is released we can expect some better flavors of WebOS.
Android is fun to mess with, but it's still buggy and some features don't work well. It's not as fluid and i can't get the camera to work on mine for skype or taking pictures (with FC'ing.)
Currently I only use Android for a couple games, Google Voice SMS, ebuddy to chat, and browsing the net with Skyfire. As for WebOS, I play some WebOS-specific games, video chatting, Kalemsoft video streaming from my SMB share, ereader, and organizational things. Currently WebOS is more useful than Android by far. Other than not having a good chat program. When android isn't so buggy and is more fluid i'll give it a better shot.
Just got a Touchpad for Christmas today, and got it completely set up, with Preware, Xronified, and a lot of other stuff. So, I wanted to know, which OS do you people here use more, Android or WebOS?
Personally, I feel like WebOS' interface is way more polished. The multitasking is great, it feels smooth, and it's very user friendly. I've been using Android for a while, and it's a lot more powerful, but I just don't like it as much. Perhaps my opinion will change over time, but on the first day, I love me some WebOS.
It's a pity HP completely messed up the launch. I mean, for the same price, no one would take this over the iPad. Perhaps if it launched at $399, like the Transformer, it would have seen some success. Then again, we probably wouldn't have this Android community.
I just could not use webOS.
The browser stunk and there were no alternatives, and no free game to keep the kids occupied.
No netflix to keep the wife occupied.
I had to change it to android.
I am in the same boat. I like the feel and polish to the WebOS operating system. However the lack of apps compared to android makes it tough to stick with.
Alpha 3.5. WebOS is dead to me.
I agree. I love the webOS interface and would take it any day over Android. However, the lack of apps in webOS just keeps drawing me back over to Android.
I like webOS better than Android 2.3. I don't like the scaled phone apps. If I am going to experience occasional bugs, and freezes, I don't want to do it with a phone OS.
If there was a honeycomb (unlikely) or ICS (coming along) build I would probably switch, even if its buggy.
WebOS feels more intuitive and more stable to me. I like the stock browser better than any android browser I can find.
Yes, there are only a few tablet apps for the TouchPad webOS, but there are zero gingerbread tablet optimized apps. I don't really use many apps. I like the Facebook in webOS, that's about it. Almost all other use is in the browser. Its got native flash support, and seems to render fairly well most of the time.
I do currently have Android on my TouchPad for the kids. The apps for the kids don't need to be tablet optimized, scaled drawing games and such are okay. Also Netflix doesn't work in webOS, no app and won't work in the browser.
I also agree that the TouchPad doesn't have to be dead. At $399, or if they at least marketed it. Put out some serious advertising. The Galaxy Tab and Xoom are selling (some) at the same price at the iPad. HP was supposed to be the cash behind the deal to make it work. They didn't even try, and gave up too quick. Maybe if Apple had sued them for making a big iPhone 3G, they would be more successful, as the lawsuit has made Galaxy Tab a household name.
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I use both. I use webos because of the multi tasking ability. I am not a big gamer (I have 5 games for android and 3 for webos) but there is no android email app out there as good as the email for webos. As I use several accounts both business and personnel, webos is much easier to use for all my email contacts. The on screen keyboard for webos is more refined and allows me to touch type as fast as I like with no dropped keys. The android keyboards I have used are lacking and drop keystrokes constantly. I have tried swiftkey, hackers kbd, ect... and none of them are as smooth as the webos keyboard. I stream tv and movies to the touchpad using flood HD for webos and it is quite good.
As for android, currently have the xron b2.7 mod of cyanogen installed and must admit it is nice. There are many apps for most anything I could want but still there are occasional issues with apps force closing and wifi dropping off. I don't mind those issues as I realize the build is still basically an alpha and will improve with time. Overall, both operating systems have their strong points so I use them both.
I have been working on developing apps within the preware community and android is still difficult for me to work with from a developers point of view. I am sure it will grow on me over time and webos's days are surely numbered. Still I have a tablet that is able to boot two very good operating systems and function well so I am content for now.
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Sold my iPad for an Acer Iconia A500...hated the ipad. Picked up the 32 gig Touchpad during firesale. Used it ever since. WebOS is better than android or iOS period. I have android installed on the TP, but almost never boot into it. Sold the Iconia.
HP blew it. This tablet could have been a world beater if they tried. Oh well, my gain ;-)
Alpha 3.5. I love some things in WebOS, things that even CyanogenMOD lacks, real multitasking, for example, and gestures (as far as i can understand, you'll need to press those annoying back-home-menu buttons even in ICS, while in WebOS it's much simplyer and, err, comfortablier). But total slowness and the absolute lack of software are making the OS useless. Well, there is also a thing that WebOS could do, and Android couldn't - HD .mkv videos with hardware decoding. The only player on Android that could do that doesn't currently work on TP. But i can live without video.
How is webOS slow? I keep hearing that, but never see it. My tp is snappy. Better than either my iPad or Iconia. I just don't understand why people feel that way. As for apps, nothing I need or use is lacking.
can anyone tell me how to delete web os
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I'm using both WebOS with Preware and CM 7 a2.
If WebOS had support for the apps I'm using, I would never use Android.
Email is better, multitasking is better, everything flows great. The web browser even feels good. Honestly, it feels like a tablet should.
That being said, I wind up using Android because I need to keep my data consistent. Booting from one to the other for different tasks is not really an option, so I go where the support is.
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CM7 XRON-ified vB2.8 currently!
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Love the Xronified Android. So fast so sleek. Always flashing on my phone so couple of fcs here and there doesn't affect me. Webos has potential but not mature enough as android.
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Xron2.7 is on my Christmas gift. So far so good.
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I have a touchpad on the way. Deal maker was dual boot ability. I had a webOS phone but it is a Pre Plus that will never be updated. So I came over to the dark side.
Now I'm looking forward to webOS again. Will try to go straight webOs for a while cefore jumping into loading cm7
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android all the way... havent used webos since i flashed cm7
Touchpad + WebOs =
I unboxed my 32GB Touchpad and carried it to my computer to install Android.
I booted it up, connected it to my wifi, played with WebOs and the HP app store. Fell in love with WebOs and downloaded all the apps I thought I could possibly use. Shut down computer and forgot about Android. My Touchpad with WebOs 3.02 is fast, beautiful, and the app store is plenty big enough for me. I love Android on my Samsung Vibrant rooted with a custom rom installed.
What I love about this tablet is that it is awesome with just WebOS installed but if I want I can Android, Windows, or Linux on this baby. Got my wife a Xoom and I'm worried if she sees my Touchpad in action she just might want to trade. Ever seen a grown man cry. I swear I would!
i use alpha 2 because i watch a lot of video on my tp. 3.5 still not as good as alpha 2 for video.
WebOS 100%. There are a few reasons for that. WebOS just looks much better on a tablet than Gingerbread, apps look 10x better, I like WebOS better for a tablet, and all the apps I need for Android are already on my phone. Maybe when ICS comes out that will change but I'd never give up WebOS for Android 2.3. For my phone, I much prefer Android for the widgets.
Does anyone in this forum actually use webOS or is everyone just using Android on their Touchpad? I just got my Touchpad yesterday so I havent been around these forums much until now. I just see everyone talking about Cyanogenmod and everything else that has to do with Android. I would like to start some webOS talk if anyone is interested.
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Does anyone in this forum actually use webOS or is everyone just using Android on their Touchpad? I just got my Touchpad yesterday so I havent been around these forums much until now. I just see everyone talking about Cyanogenmod and everything else that has to do with Android. I would like to start some webOS talk if anyone is interested.
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The problem with WebOS is that it has been discontinued, is not as versatile as Android, and has like no apps compared with Android.
I have used both on the touchpad, and I can guarantee you if you flashed CM9 and dual-booted both OS's for one day each, you'd stick to Android after that.
There's not a whole lot to talk about WebOS, it's nice, but it's obsolete.
videos are a bit hopeless on quite a few versions of android, so i stick with WebOS for watching movies and stuff via VPN, internet is a grey area, sometimes i prefer when webOS just works as opposed to android browser throwing a fit.
apps.....yh android is 100 times better now that we have ICS
I love the webOS UI. I have an android phone and used to have a webOS phone so I am familiar with both. I agree android has more apps which makes it more usable with most people. But webOS does a better job with how things look and feel in my opinion. I will be installing cm9 on it tonight but will still use both operating systems for different things. I'm hoping with webOS going open source we will see both these operating systems grow with eachother.
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I used webOS exclusively until ICS. At least webOS was tablet optimized. CM7 was unbearable to me. webOS is intuitive, stable, snappy, and smooth. The default browser in webOS renders well and handles flash great. Advanced browser added some nice features.
You will find a lot more talk of people using the TouchPad on webOS at webOS nation, formerly precentral. They also have a lot more guides about webOS optimization, like over clocking, preware, and more. XDA is dominated by android, so it makes sense most of the users here run ICS. I have a brother in law that bought a TouchPad at full price before the fire sale. He loves it and webOS, he didn't know you could put Android on it.
To me it comes down to use. I use my tablet for almost 90% web browsing. On GB web browsing was terrible. But ICS brings solid web browsing that I feel is faster than the webOS browser. Then while I'm in there I get to plug into my Google stuff easier.
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I used webOS exclusively until ICS. At least webOS was tablet optimized. CM7 was unbearable to me. webOS is intuitive, stable, snappy, and smooth. The default browser in webOS renders well and handles flash great. Advanced browser added some nice features.
You will find a lot more talk of people using the TouchPad on webOS at webOS nation, formerly precentral. They also have a lot more guides about webOS optimization, like over clocking, preware, and more. XDA is dominated by android, so it makes sense most of the users here run ICS. I have a brother in law that bought a TouchPad at full price before the fire sale. He loves it and webOS, he didn't know you could put Android on it.
To me it comes down to use. I use my tablet for almost 90% web browsing. On GB web browsing was terrible. But ICS brings solid web browsing that I feel is faster than the webOS browser. Then while I'm in there I get to plug into my Google stuff easier.
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Thanks for your opinion. I am a member of webOS Nation too. I'm just over here more since I have a Droid X2. I think a lot of users have left the forums over there too, sadly. I guess I'll be jumping back and forth.
I purchased my Touchpad during the initial fire sale, with the goal of installing Android on it. I found that I actually like WebOS, so I never installed Android and don't plan on it at this point. I don't care that there are not as many apps on WebOS as there are on Android. I have an Android phone and Galaxy Tab, and don't have very many apps installed on either one of those either. I like how smooth and intuitive that WebOS is, and I love it's interface. So, WebOS is a keeper for me.
If I ever feel like I absolutely have to have an ICS device, then I'll just go out and purchase one with the OS already installed on it (provided that it's a decent price).
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videos are a bit hopeless on quite a few versions of android, so i stick with WebOS for watching movies and stuff via VPN, internet is a grey area, sometimes i prefer when webOS just works as opposed to android browser throwing a fit.
apps.....yh android is 100 times better now that we have ICS
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HW acceleration works now on CM9 so videos should not be choppy (none of mine are, netflix works 100% great and so does YouTube HD)
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I love the webOS UI. I have an android phone and used to have a webOS phone so I am familiar with both. I agree android has more apps which makes it more usable with most people. But webOS does a better job with how things look and feel in my opinion. I will be installing cm9 on it tonight but will still use both operating systems for different things. I'm hoping with webOS going open source we will see both these operating systems grow with eachother.
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that's the thing, only one of those operating systems is going to "grow"
I get that WebOS is open source now, but the difference is that Google is still making new versions of Android, but NO ONE is making new versions of WebOS, so it is just a losing proposition.
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that's the thing, only one of those operating systems is going to "grow"
I get that WebOS is open source now, but the difference is that Google is still making new versions of Android, but NO ONE is making new versions of WebOS, so it is just a losing proposition.
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webOS isnt even fully open source yet. No one can really do anything with what HP has given them so far. But once developers get a hold of a fully open source product, only time will tell if we will see another "version of webOS" or big improvements on what is already there. Im just being optimistic about the whole open source thing and hoping to see SOME good come out of it. I will have Android on my device as well for future development on the Android side of things.
I too have been an Android convert since my wife got the G1 from T mobile several years ago. Then I went to the Droid X. Then a galaxy tab 7 and now a Razr.
I wanted a larger tablet and saw the price of iPad and others and thought I would just keep what I had. When I read that the touchpad could run android and they were just $200 a few months ago, I bought 3. Then sold one, gave one as a gift and kept one.
I really like webOS. I use it for just surfing, email and the front facing camera works with Skype. Ics still has no ffc. So with webOS it doesn't matter.
I think the touchpad is one of the best tablets out there. You have the great feel of webOS on one side and the flasoholics dream on the other.
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So I bought my tp about a week ago, and played with webOS for about two hours before/while installing android on it. I laugh at anyone who wants to "remove" webOS from this tablet. It is a fantastic operating system. But you have to admit, android's app selection is a huge, huge pro to installing ics. Whether you care or not is irrelevant. Both OS's are solid and stable, both have their pros and cons. I can see myself using webOS 100% of the time if their app selection half way caught up with android. As it is, webOS is a very nice alternative if your android is bugging out for whatever reason, and android is a nice alternative if you want more apps than webOS offers.
Hopefully, the open sourcing of webOS will give a huge boost to the dev community, for both OS's. Imagine having webOS with a ton of mods and customizations and apps, while having android with flawless wifi and camera. I would love to see that happen. Then we would literally have the best tablet available!
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Does anyone in this forum actually use webOS or is everyone just using Android on their Touchpad? I just got my Touchpad yesterday so I havent been around these forums much until now. I just see everyone talking about Cyanogenmod and everything else that has to do with Android. I would like to start some webOS talk if anyone is interested.
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The reason why you see everyone here talking about android and cyanogenmod is because you are in an predominantly android forum. Its like asking where the apple users have gone in a Linux forum...you can try webosnation forums for webos related stuff and chat
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I use only webos on my touchpad and see no reason to use cm9.
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I use only webos on my touchpad and see no reason to use cm9.
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Unless disk space is an issue, I see no reason not to run both.
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I use only webos on my touchpad and see no reason to use cm9.
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Agreed, unfortunately there are not a lot of apps out for webOS. If the OpenMobile ACL project takes off soon then this may be a thing of the past, until then I'm happily running ICS on my touchpad.
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Unless disk space is an issue, I see no reason not to run both.
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I agree. I bought the 32 gig because I knew I was going to install android on it. 32 gigs is a lot of space so like you said, I see no reason not to if you have the extra space. If it wasnt for the apps on android though, I wouldn't bother.
How anyone can stand the WebOS browser is beyond me. Absolute garbage. I couldn't flash Android fast enough.
I used webOS for as long as it was reasonable to do so - but CM9 is clearly a better choice for almost anyone. I tweaked and fiddled and played with webOS to get the most seamless experience possible, spending a TON of time on it, and in the end it's just a ton of effort expended to bring the device up to "adequate". Most of the fixes and tweaks etc that I recommended should have been baked into the code for webOS -years- ago. It's really a shame how hard they dropped the ball - and this is coming from someone who's been a webOS convert since I bought my very first pre- on launch day and has put up with all the negatives. SOOOOOO much promise, massive failure to deliver. I can't help but feel like even the open-source effort is a bit slow and stalling, and the timeline on this is doing nothing but sending experienced devs who -were- webOS faithful on to other devices.
As it sits, the touchpad running CM9 is one of the most capable ICS-equipped tablets on the market. It's a beast in terms of CPU, graphics, screen, etc. The newest nightlies run beautifully. I can't see any reason why a TP owner wouldn't want CM9 installed on their touchpad. Even if you still use webOS (I do from time to time), having CM9 on there is a no-brainer. 20 seconds and you've rebooted into CM9 ready to use it's vast array of apps, enjoy a much more capable web browsing experience, and generally massively improve the usefulness of your tablet. There's no downside.
That's why the webOS users are a bit sparse, and that's a trend I only see continuing.
Just landed into this forum after get the link from Google, shows that Touchpad was heavily installed with Android in it (mostly CM9?).
Currently I'm using only WebOS on my Touchpad, not yet try to install CM9 on it. Only have 16GB version. Previous day have a plan to get 32GB version, so I can install CM9 on it, but now changes a plan a little bit for it.
Meanwhile, I try to keep watching the progress on this forum, about Android usage on Touchpad. If someday I will install CM9 on it, it should be dual-boot. Hopefully after WebOS become open source fully, like Android, many apps appears for it.
I never run into space issues running webOS and CM9 on a 16 GB. I see it as a cloud based device. Without an internet connection I wouldn't use it. I stream everything, so I don't store any content on it. Loaded with apps, I still have more than half the system partition free, and like 2/3 the storage space free.
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just was given a hp tp. i currently own a ipad 1. i want to sell one of the... the ipad will sell for more. How does a hp tp on cm9 compare? iIuse the ipaf for web browsing and YouTube only.. sometimes hulu and a couple games.
The best thing I like is the battery. iI charge it onceevery few weeks. It just never dies. how does the tp compare?
keep whichever you are happier with
touch pad for the win. tp with cm9 blows the doors off a first gen ipad hands down. there isnt even room for argument. i can go into all the specifics and details but just do the right thing and sell the icrap.
Agreed!
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if battery life is a big deal and you don't do much with a tablet.. keep the ipad.. you will not be happy with battery of the hptp
I can't stand Apple products because of their restrictions and how the company is run (patent trolls), so I'd probably take a TP over an iPad 4 (if I had to use them and couldn't sell). But from a neutral point of view here is my opinion.
The 1st iPad is not receiving updates anymore, its stuck on iOS 5. But there is a vast library of apps that will run on it but I'm not sure how the Apple ecosystem works with unsupported devices. Meaning if an app gets a new version that requires iOS6 is the iOS5 version still available or does it get pulled, on Android its up to the dev. Officially the Touchpad is also done receiving updates and WebOS has a lot fewer apps than iOS. Its great for Youtube and web surfing as both WebOS and Android have Adobe Flash. Flash Android and you'll get many more apps but it won't be as stable of an OS so you may have to deal with some random reboots and battery drain, but its not that bad.
For pure hardware, the Touchpad is much better than the 1st iPad. It has much more RAM, a camera, and a dual core processor. If you want something with a stable OS and a lot of apps keep the iPad. If you want something that runs a stable OS with limited apps plus the ability to boot other ROMs with more apps and customizability, go for the Touchpad. For me, half the fun of the Touchpad/Android is the ability to tinker and customize.
Stick with the ipad, it'll feel faster. While the hardware in the TP is better than the ipad 1, Apple really has the 60fps-everything-drawn-by-GPU thing going for it, which makes everything else feel dirt slow in comparison. Better specs don't mean much when the experience is subpar.
I think the iPad 1s have had statistically better scores on graphics benchmarks compared to many of the top performing android tablets, probably because of it's software and anti-multitask (don't quote me on that). If you don't want to think too much or love the 3rd party support keep the iPad. But the touchpad does wonders for the price since it has better hardware besides graphics. Plus with camera almost fully functional on cm9 you can oovoo and stuff
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Stick with the ipad, it'll feel faster. While the hardware in the TP is better than the ipad 1, Apple really has the 60fps-everything-drawn-by-GPU thing going for it, which makes everything else feel dirt slow in comparison. Better specs don't mean much when the experience is subpar.
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I'd disagree. The Touchpad is very quick and smooth. I wouldn't say it feels like dirt compared to an iPad 1. Far from it.
If you want a 100% "no thought no effort" experience, stick with the iPad. The TouchPad still has some "quirks" though it is 99% there.
If you prefer more free apps and Google's services, then you're a Droidhead and you'll put up with that 1% of "issues" and keep the TouchPad.
The big advantage to the touchpad is dual booting, webos and Android.
You won't get good battery life in android, but you will in webos.
There are still cm9 nightlies being put out for the touch pad, even though now they are more like weeklies. Dorregaray has put out a camera patch that works with the official nightlies, so now you have a camera available for Android.
If all you'll be using it for is emails, websurfing and video watching, I would recommend the touchpad. You can do all that perfectly well in webos and have a great battery life. If you want a better selection of apps, then use android, even though the battery life won't be as good.
You need to know more techie stuff with the touch pad, whereas the iPad just works, as the apple adds say. But I enjoy the touch pad much more than the iPad. I have access to 2 touch pads and 2 iPads, so I have compared them before.
Whatever decision you make you'll be fine. They're both good tablets.
Good luck.
the dual boot webos/droid is a big advantage, as previously stated.
when im home i use droid for all features.. networking, printers etc..but battery life is bad..
if i take hptp out, i use webos to use the internet, email internet radio etc..
plus, i have kalemsoft player to let me access my home pc media to watch movies etc... and still get good battery life..i can video skype ..
I tried to keep up with WebOS but after a year or so I just gave up. I haven't booted to WebOS in some time now. I own an iPhone 4 and two Android Tablets. I've come to prefer the flexibility that Android give you and have been able to do anything I do on my iPhone on my tablets. If all the OP is doing is what they described, it doesn't really matter what tablet they keep but it's nice to know that there is still custom ROM development going on with the HP Touchpad and I personally think it is a lot more fun to own a tablet that keeps me interested in development, flashing new ROM's and keeping up with the forums.
Stick with iPad 1 and just jailbreak for added functions
I say get sell the ipad ... iOS has become so basic if u happen to be under 13 stick with the basics that apple gives you with their cheap hardware but I got to give it to them they know how to make a lot out of their products... I personally will sell both and get a galaxy note 10 or a Asus transformer
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sell both of them, acquire ipad2 or an asus tf300 lol. I'm an android guy, but I do recognize that the ipad is very smooth and really good for people who don't like to tinker, or aren't very tech savvy. My parents have an ipad2 and it's still a very good tablet, and its buttery smooth.
The asus tf300 prices are dropping fast, and a really good bargain for what you get (micro SD slot, quad-core tegra 3, fast updates from asus, good screen). If you like to tinker a bit, you'll like the tf300.
CM9 has gotten so mature on the Touchpad I sold my iPad3 for it.
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iIuse the ipaf for web browsing and YouTube only.. sometimes hulu and a couple games.
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Pretty basic needs-
1) iOS Safari will feel pretty smooth and is quite fast- the stock AOSP browser for CM9/10 is also quite good (nice features like incognito / auto-login / request desktop site). You also have other options on Android (Dolphin is fastest, has nice gestures. Chrome has nice sync features, seems a little buggy though (may have been fixed in yesterday's update).
2) The Android Youtube app is phenomenal far superior to anything available on iOS (Protube doesn't come close).
3) Games run surprisingly well on the Touchpad. Check out Dead Trigger- you will be impressed!
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The best thing I like is the battery. iI charge it onceevery few weeks. It just never dies. how does the tp compare?
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Battery isn't bad. I would say its definitely not the iPad's equal, but its reasonable and the Touchstone is very nice.
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So to answer your question, based on your needs and my experience I would sell the iPad. Install -SGA-'s custom ROMs or try out Jelly Bean. The community's dedication to the HP Touchpad has really won me over to Android. Very impressed to say the least.
If optimized (supercharged, 1.5ghz, 30-40% up threshold in setcpu) the Touchpad with CM10 will completely outperform the 1st iPad in general web browsing, it is much closer to (even surpassing) the iPad 2. Not to mention it has 4x the amount of ram of the iPad 1 and 2x the amount of the iPad2, that means more tabs and apps open without reloading when switching from app to app.
The app store is an advantage for the iPad as there are still a lot more apps compared to the Play store. Also, the battery on the Touchpad is not going to come close to any iPad.
I know that benchmarks don't usually mean much but here are a few anyway..
1.7ghz PA 2.99
And to compare with a recent some recent tests by Toms Hardware and AnandTech
The Touchpad has really improved over the last few months.
pbassjunk said:
Stick with the ipad, it'll feel faster. While the hardware in the TP is better than the ipad 1, Apple really has the 60fps-everything-drawn-by-GPU thing going for it, which makes everything else feel dirt slow in comparison. Better specs don't mean much when the experience is subpar.
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This has been almost completely fixed with JellyBean.
twentythreemx said:
just was given a hp tp. i currently own a ipad 1. i want to sell one of the... the ipad will sell for more. How does a hp tp on cm9 compare? iIuse the ipaf for web browsing and YouTube only.. sometimes hulu and a couple games.
The best thing I like is the battery. iI charge it onceevery few weeks. It just never dies. how does the tp compare?
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I like my touchpad as I have an android phone so I can use all the same google apps on both abd don't mind putting the tp on the charger every other day. My brother and his wife both have macbooks and iphones so they took their touchpads back and purchased ipads.