Related
I've tried searching for this answer, but haven't found it, so apologies if it's been answered. I've been tinkering with my phone a lot over the past 4 weeks, and flashes to 1.2.6 always take me back to the way I bought it, like out-of-the-box stock.
However, when I re-flash to 1.8.3, it keeps all my settings, texts, etc. So what's the difference? Is 1.2.6 a full OS flash, and 1.8.3 just an upgrade flash? What about 1.5.7? How would I go back to out-of-the-box? Thanks!
If I understand correctly, the 1.83 update is like the 1.57 update. It simply updates the software/firmware versions on the phone but does not do a clean wipe of the phone's storage.
The 1.26 sbf is a completely clean, stock reset of the phone's internal storage and will blank out anything you have on it. I haven't yet gone to 1.83 but that is my understanding.
If you want to go stock, flash back to 1.26 then OTA update it to 1.57 then OTA to 1.83. So fresh So clean. I have tried just about every mod that is available for the Atrix and I have flash back to 1.26 many times. Running 1.83 OTA now, Gingerbreak, and in the process of adding Gingerblur 3.1.
Ok makes sense, that's what I figured. So if all else fails, 1.2.6 will wipe everything, where the other SBF's won't. Thanks!
the 4.1.57 sbf also flashes the /data partition, so you can use that too.
Thanks for the addition! I had already forgot about that. I got caught up in the whole pre release mayhem and pretty much have been rolling with just rooted stock 1.83 for now.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
If I can't mod it, Ill break it trying.
Hi,
I am currently running 4.1.57 on my Atrix and I rooted using gingerbreak. Two questions
1. If I update to 1.83, will I lose the root?
2. If I lose the root, how can I get it back.
Ps:- I don't know his to flash back to 1.26 etc and am a novice with androids.
Help appreciated.
Shaurya
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
shauryas said:
Hi,
I am currently running 4.1.57 on my Atrix and I rooted using gingerbreak. Two questions
1. If I update to 1.83, will I lose the root?
2. If I lose the root, how can I get it back.
Ps:- I don't know his to flash back to 1.26 etc and am a novice with androids.
Help appreciated.
Shaurya
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you will loose your root. To get it back use gingerbreak again.
Thanks Swift! Updating now!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
QUICK question
i have 1.5.7 with root and sideload and also both HSUPA and HDMI Mod DO I HAVE To do a fresh flash (2.1.6 or what ever) for can i just update to 1.8.3 with out it missing up my Phone meaning brick
There is a way to update with your current setup but its pretty involved from what ive read. Best bet would be to flash back to 1.57. There is a a flashable SBF available now so you dont have to go back to 1.26 anymore. Flash to 1.57 then OTA to 1.83, use gingerbreak to root ( there are other methods to root with 1.83-i found gingerbreak to be the quickest and easiest for me) Same goes for sideloading, HDMI etc, since your already modded i assume you know your way arond the forum. Check the development and general threads for the Tools you will need. Shouldnt take you too long, Use titanium backup to backup your apps and app settings to make setting your phone back up fast and easy.
So, I am new to this site and to the android community. I apologize if I sound stupid to any of you but if you aren't going to help I'd appreciate it if you just ignored me.
Anyway, I got my Atrix a couple days ago on AT&T and started learning about rooting and such. Everything on it is still stock, last night I upgraded to Gingerbread from Froyo and I'd just like to know if there's any specific rooting program, method I can use right now for 4.5.91 Also, when I upgraded I lost my music player widget, is there I can get it back without going back to Froyo?
Follow the procedure in the second link in my signature. Since you had root before you updated go into settings manage applications clear app data for superuser.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
phobos512 said:
Follow the procedure in the second link in my signature. Since you had root before you updated go into settings manage applications clear app data for superuser.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
will there be any severe consequences if I screw up?
Use gingerbreak.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
TheToiletSpaula said:
Use gingerbreak.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've read that gingerbreak doesn't work with this version. I'll look it up though.
phobos512 said:
follow the procedure in the second link in my signature. Since you had root before you updated go into settings manage applications clear app data for superuser.
Sent from my mb860 using xda app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^^^^ only way to root gb and probably the best way if there are other methods
savier420 said:
^^^^^ only way to root gb and probably the best way if there are other methods
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cool, just one question. Am I supposed to have the device connected to my computer the whole time? and if not between which steps should I connect/ disconnect it? also, when I put the root.img in the C: folder, do I put the zip file or just the .img inside of it?
phobos512 said:
Follow the procedure in the second link in my signature. Since you had root before you updated go into settings manage applications clear app data for superuser.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are just trying to "root" your phone only, YES, this is the best method.
Thanks for posting this and providing the link in your signature. I was crapping myself reading the other post about how the new updates bricks your phone but no one said if you are just looking to root your stock OTA's you'll be fine. So, thanks again. They should sticky this under "If you are just running stock and want to root without unlocked BL/pudding use this"
PSY0NIC
PSY0NIC said:
If you are just trying to "root" your phone only, YES, this is the best method.
Thanks for posting this and providing the link in your signature. I was crapping myself reading the other post about how the new updates bricks your phone but no one said if you are just looking to root your stock OTA's you'll be fine. So, thanks again. They should sticky this under "If you are just running stock and want to root without unlocked BL/pudding use this"
PSY0NIC
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since this is the 1st time I've seen some one say it this way....
If you are just trying to "root" your phone only, YES, this is the best method.
Brand new phone, all stock... just want root.... use gingerbreak?
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
Hi all,
Renaissance613, can you post if you had success and if you ran into any problems? I have the same setup as you (2.3.4/4.5.91) and I'm nervous about rooting so soon after the update (I just installed it).
Also, I'm wondering if I will have to undo this root when another automatic update gets pushed down, or if it will just unroot like my gingerbreak root did. I don't have/intend to use any ROMs. I like stock phone with phone-pulled updates and rooted.
In any case, thanks for the link phobos512 - and thanks to this community of developers and users. You guys are awesome.
Hambone~
hambone123 said:
Hi all,
Renaissance613, can you post if you had success and if you ran into any problems? I have the same setup as you (2.3.4/4.5.91) and I'm nervous about rooting so soon after the update (I just installed it).
Also, I'm wondering if I will have to undo this root when another automatic update gets pushed down, or if it will just unroot like my gingerbreak root did. I don't have/intend to use any ROMs. I like stock phone with phone-pulled updates and rooted.
In any case, thanks for the link phobos512 - and thanks to this community of developers and users. You guys are awesome.
Hambone~
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm about to try it but I'm still confused about a few things like when exactly to connect or disconnect my phone and what to do after I've entered all the commands on my computer, will it install by itself? This is my first time rooting a phone, and my first time even owning an android so I want to make sure I know exactly what I'm doing
I hear you man, it's nerve wracking to worry that you're going to brick your phone. I did the gingerbreak on the last release and it worked perfectly. I'm sure this method will work fine as well, as you said I just want to be sure I'm doing the right thing for my goal: stock phone/downloaded updates/rooted. Best of luck, and thanks to anyone who gives us noobs some more reassurance.
this is by far the best method to root on gingerbread, but i dont see any reason to root but to only flash custom roms, i only needed root pre-GB to allow non market apps, and the new GB OTA UPDATE allows non market apps, so im pretty happy with wat i got, before i updated to the OTA GB i had BL unlocked and rooted, just flashed back to 1.2.6 to be rid of root and unlocked BL, then just went throught the OTA updates to get to GB and im loving it, dont really care to flash any other custom roms, BUT BEWARE DOING THE OTA TO GB AND UNLOCKING THE BL THEN TRYIN TO FLASH BACK TO A STOCK ROM WILL HARD BRICK SO DO YOUR RESEARCH so if u dont want a hard bricked phone dont do the ota stick to custom roms and ignore all OTA'S
so I got through the fastboot reboot command, phone booted back up automatically, then put the phone into debug. Then typed in the adb shell code and said the specified path could not be found.
Now I was still in the command prompt that said the c:/root
What did I do wrong?
So, adb says it is a bad path?? Do this instead..it is easier and it works -- I did it this way last night!
After "moto-fastboot reboot", once your phone has completely rebooted, go to the Android Market and download and install "Terminal Emulator." Once it is instslled and you have opened it, enter the EXACT SAME commands that you were going to type into the Adb Shell..once again, type in the commands VERBATIM. After the last command, there should be a message saying (in terminal emulator) that it was successful! Congrats, you have achieved root access on the AT&T issued stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 build! I hope it works for you!
~Eric
savier420 said:
this is by far the best method to root on gingerbread, but i dont see any reason to root but to only flash custom roms, i only needed root pre-GB to allow non market apps, and the new GB OTA UPDATE allows non market apps, so im pretty happy with wat i got.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm very vanilla. I root pretty much entirely for free wireless tethering and being able to delete bloatware.
Hello everyone, I am still a little confused between what will or what will not brick my phone. I appreciate your responses.
I am still in froyo 2.2.2 (firmware 1.8.3), rooted using GladRoot method (rooted in previous firmware, then upgraded to 1.83 and used the AfterUpdate.bat.
I am afraid to do the updrade to GB because after reading a looot of threads here on this I am completely confused on what will brick my atrix and what not. If I upgrade to GB OTA, will that brick my phone? if it doesn't brick it, what does? if I upgrade to GB OTA will I able to root it? what method should I use?
thanks a lot
aroca1978 said:
Hello everyone, I am still a little confused between what will or what will not brick my phone. I appreciate your responses.
I am still in froyo 2.2.2 (firmware 1.8.3), rooted using GladRoot method (rooted in previous firmware, then upgraded to 1.83 and used the AfterUpdate.bat.
I am afraid to do the updrade to GB because after reading a looot of threads here on this I am completely confused on what will brick my atrix and what not. If I upgrade to GB OTA, will that brick my phone? if it doesn't brick it, what does? if I upgrade to GB OTA will I able to root it? what method should I use?
thanks a lot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Updating to GB won't brick your phone. After updating to GB you can't down grade to older OS (like the one your on right now) that would brick your phone. So as long as you don't plan on going back to a past OS version (and I don't know why anyone would) you'll have no problems at all. As for Rooting >follow this link< and follow the instructions there after you update to GB. It works perfectly, you don't have to unlock your BL or anything else like that to just have Root on GB. Hope this helps.
Thanks!!! That was the response I was looking for
Now, what method should I use if I were planning to unlock the bootloader?
Also, if something goes wrong and I need to reinstall the upgrade (or better, flash with GB again with a spf file) will that not brick by atrix either?
For Questions about BL Unlocking
aroca1978 said:
Thanks!!! That was the response I was looking for
Now, what method should I use if I were planning to unlock the bootloader?
Also, if something goes wrong and I need to reinstall the upgrade (or better, flash with GB again with a spf file) will that not brick by atrix either?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click on the link below, that thread will give you the answers and files your looking for.
> Click Here <
I'm trying to restore my Froyo app backups, i.e. Email 2.2.2, News 2.2.2, etc with Titanium Backup but have encountered a problem. They won't restore! The only reason I want to restore them is I'm under the impression when I update to Gingerbread (once it's avaiable on Bell) it won't let me update since I don't have some core apps installed. Please help!
The icon in the right of those apps, is an explanation mark in a triangle?
No it's actually a red happy face.
It's just Email 2.2.2, Weather 2.2.2 and News 2.2.2 that I backed up and un-installed. Now when I try and restore just those 3 the restore pop up screen goes on forever. Do I even need to reinstall these in order to update to Gingerbread successfully? Thanks.
Sorry for bumping, but I'm a little worried I won't be able to update to Gingerbread when the time comes...
Hmmm...
The think you can do is, ask for another Bell user here, upload the 3 apks you want, and
using Root Explorer or any other exlporer with root access,
or adb using your computer
move these apps to system/app
You unistalled them because they were bloatware, right?
You shouldn't unistall them. You should freeze them, and now restore them back.
But, what i suggest is:
Unlock your Bootloader,
install the Unlocked CWM
and download and install(using cwm zips) an International Version of 2.3.4 from now.
But READ very carefully the android dev section, so you wont get hard-brick!
If i helped, hit thanks!
I suggest back up your data and what not and flash a fresh stock build (either fruit cake or sbf)
Yeah I thought they were bloatware so I uninstalled them. I'll freeze next time. Can I just "Factory Data reset" after backing up all my essential apps? I really don't understand the process of flashing and updating to Gingerbread and whatnot and I'm a little scared to brick my phone too.
lexx210 said:
Yeah I thought they were bloatware so I uninstalled them. I'll freeze next time. Can I just "Factory Data reset" after backing up all my essential apps? I really don't understand the process of flashing and updating to Gingerbread and whatnot and I'm a little scared to brick my phone too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only thing you have to afraid, is some SBF's, when you unlock you bootloader..(If the dont remove some code of Bootloader, in SBF's, and then you downgrade from 2.3 to 2.2, you get hard-brick!)
So, i suggest you, instead of waiting the 3 apk's,
wait for a more stable and international support for a rom(like, i m waiting Alien Rom),
and then flash it using CWM..
If you read here, you can easily unlock your Bootloader, but this can void your guarantee.
Since you are unlocked, then never use RDS lite, to flash SBF's, and flash roms in CWM which is easy and safe!
I' m not pushing you. Just recommending!
My guarantee is already voided, since i m since unlocked, and the half-earth away from USA
So unlocking my phone is the only risky part? And after I unlock my phone I should never update with the official releases again? Also, unlocking my phone only gives me the ability to flash roms, kernels etc in the future when a more stable Bell 2.34 rom comes out, it doesn't change anything with my phone as is right now except I void my warranty? Basically unlocking doesn't give me Gingerbread or anything for that matter, it only allows me to install it afterwards? You can probably tell I'm very new to all this so thank you for being so patient and helpful.
I am ready to install the latest update to my x2, but i am currently rooted and have the pulldown toggle zip and crt animation on my device, as well as the supercharger script, i know its very easy to remove the supercharger script,but would the crt or pulldown effect the install? Anyone encountered this issue yet?
thanks for the help.
amancini92292 said:
I am ready to install the latest update to my x2, but i am currently rooted and have the pulldown toggle zip and crt animation on my device, as well as the supercharger script, i know its very easy to remove the supercharger script,but would the crt or pulldown effect the install? Anyone encountered this issue yet?
thanks for the help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In order for you to update your gonna have to sbf back to 2.3.3 if that's what your on. If not, then the update will fail because of the root. You will be able to update once you sbf & wipe data in stock recovery as well just to be safe. Hope that helps
Edit: this is for if you are trying to get the ota...sorry I should clarified that first
thanks for the help that basically clears it all up, seeing as im fairly happy with it right now im going to leave well enough alone, when they roll out a bigger update i will consider it, thats what i figured i was going to have to do.
amancini92292 said:
thanks for the help that basically clears it all up, seeing as im fairly happy with it right now im going to leave well enough alone, when they roll out a bigger update i will consider it, thats what i figured i was going to have to do.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just use titanium backup then and back to stock, do the update and reload ur apps. Takes all of about an hour, tops.
Droid X2 - Eclipse v1.0
yeah i have all of that done already, i might give it a try, thanks
Rp...I don't think it will fail just due to root. U WILLA lose ur root.
It most likely WILL fail due to the mods/or rom u run due to missing files that are necessary.
if u are stock rooted I think it would work...but either way good idea to go back bone stock just to avoid any issues altogether
im running the completely stock rom, removing the script i have isnt an issue what so ever, is there any way to remove installed zips that were installed in the recovery?
ashclepdia said:
Rp...I don't think it will fail just due to root. U WILLA lose ur root.
It most likely WILL fail due to the mods/or rom u run due to missing files that are necessary.
if u are stock rooted I think it would work...but either way good idea to go back bone stock just to avoid any issues altogether
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True always better to be safe than sorry
if your on stock and you want to return your animations to stock you could possibly extract framework-res.apk from /system/framework/ of the stock gingerbread and push it via adb to your phone or you could use root explorer to do so as well. that should erase your mods to animations. and you'll most likely have to reboot after. but animations should retrun to stock after, than unroot and take the ota. but its never a bad idea just to go to bone stock via sbf as rp076 suggested
For taking off the toggles u can just flash the stock notification zip from one of those threads I think it is there somewhere. Or ask the creator of the toggle zip u flashed for the stock one...
But ur safest bet is sbf and data wipe. It's not hard to do at all and is just a good thing to know how to do
I recovered my stock rooted backup from eclipse .8 and took the OTA no problem. You will lose root but Pete's one click will work to root again. You won't lose any apps.
Sent from my eclipsed DROID X2 using xda premium
rp076 said:
In order for you to update your gonna have to sbf back to 2.3.3 if that's what your on. If not, then the update will fail because of the root. You will be able to update once you sbf & wipe data in stock recovery as well just to be safe. Hope that helps
Edit: this is for if you are trying to get the ota...sorry I should clarified that first
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Steve125 said:
I recovered my stock rooted backup from eclipse .8 and took the OTA no problem. You will lose root but Pete's one click will work to root again. You won't lose any apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do people keep thinking that just because you have root you have to SBF.. Root has nothing to do with the OTA update..
If you try and it fails it's not due to root, it would have to do with something frozen, or you have OTA Blocked with Rom Manager, or something else changed...
Of all the phones out there I can't think of any (ever) that have blocked OTA updates just because of root access.. In fact OTA Blocking had been added in to Rom Manger a few years back to prevent the OTA updates so people wouldn't update and lose root on updates that were not rooted yet.
On a side note, why would you SBF to 2.3.3 instead of just going to 2.3.4? You're just adding an extra step there. That would be like flashing back to Froyo SBF (what's the point?) if you want 2.3.4 GB..
masters said:
Why do people keep thinking that just because you have root you have to SBF.. Root has nothing to do with the OTA update..
If you try and it fails it's not due to root, it would have to do with something frozen, or you have OTA Blocked with Rom Manager, or something else changed...
Of all the phones out there I can't think of any (ever) that have blocked OTA updates just because of root access.. In fact OTA Blocking had been added in to Rom Manger a few years back to prevent the OTA updates so people wouldn't update and lose root on updates that were not rooted yet.
On a side note, why would you SBF to 2.3.3 instead of just going to 2.3.4? You're just adding an extra step there. That would be like flashing back to Froyo SBF (what's the point?) if you want 2.3.4 GB..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Calm down killa...just stating what I know thru past experiences & I'm not the only one who's had the problem before. When the 2.3.3 update first came out I couldn't update because my phone still was rooted, NOTHING FROZEN OR REMOVED. I read in other threads at the time that sbf'ing was the way to fix the problem. Once i did that, i was able to get the update installed successfully. Its not a wrong procedure, but a way to be sure to get a clean install. And as for flashing back, I was saying to do that if he wanted the ota
Side note...rom manager isn't or hasn't even been available yet for this phone ...surely you knew that
Hi all!!
I'm still fairly new to the razr and moto's locked bootloader etc... I came from the evo 4g, and it was stupid simple to upgrade/swap roms etc.. So just keep that in mind :laugh:
Anyway... I decided I want to try out ICS, as it seems there are no major issues with it. I am on gb .181, and rooted with casual, and motofail, then installed boostrap and cwm. As I understand it, I need to uninstall bootstrap (just by uninstalling thru settings/applications?) then remove cwm via this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20447149&postcount=47
Then unroot using the same tool I used to root, and follow the directions in the thread I get the update from.
Do I have all this correct? I wanna try ICS, and it seems that weather I wait for the ota, or load it myself, I still have to do the above process, and I just wanna make sure I got it right to avoid a nice shiny brick :laugh:
T.I.A.
You'll be safer if flash stock .181 prior installing ICS.
Cheers
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium