[Q] Gingerbread update then lost root - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First off thanks for the help -
I rooted my Thunderbolt using the Revolutionary method, no problems at all, downloaded Titanium Backup and backup all info and then installed the latest Gingerbread release.
Now, I've lost root and I can't reinstall TB (because I don't have root access).
Do I need to reroot?
Sorry, thanks for the help

Paulyester said:
First off thanks for the help -
I rooted my Thunderbolt using the Revolutionary method, no problems at all, downloaded Titanium Backup and backup all info and then installed the latest Gingerbread release.
Now, I've lost root and I can't reinstall TB (because I don't have root access).
Do I need to reroot?
Sorry, thanks for the help
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please be more specific what you did.

I followed the instructions here under #1 to root the phone using the Revolutionary tool (I was on 2.2.1) - can't post link yet but its on thunderbolt forums
After those instructions were finished I installed Titanium Backup and backed up all my data and apps.
After that was finished I installed/upgraded to Gingerbread 2.3.1
Now after all that is finished, I don't seem to have root access anymore. Do I need to re-install that Superuser app?
When I go to the HBoot screen, it says Revolutionary at the top and S-Off, I assume that means I still have root access?
Thanks again

First, flash CWM Recovery via hboot, then flash su from CWM.
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S-off does not mean root. If you installed GB with an RUU (PG05IMG.zip) then you will need to reflash clockwork recovery and then the Su binary you flashed after running Revolutionary.
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When I try to go to Recovery in HBoot, it goes to the black screen with the triangle and the exlamation point. Am I doing something wrong?

Paulyester said:
When I try to go to Recovery in HBoot, it goes to the black screen with the triangle and the exlamation point. Am I doing something wrong?
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I guess you have entered in recovery mode.
In generic senee on this screen with triangle qnd exclamation mark please press home button of your phone to proceed.
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Paulyester said:
When I try to go to Recovery in HBoot, it goes to the black screen with the triangle and the exlamation point. Am I doing something wrong?
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That is the stock android/HTC recovery.
Flash this (doesn't matter which one really.)in hboot first. Then reflash the SU binary used after Revolutionary. Then I would say install busybox from the market or elsewhere.
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Rooted not Rooted

I tried to root it says Im rooted then Im not rooted then I cant install busybox. Superuser is installed. What do I do root again?I tried the the easy install method like I used to and always worked but I lost the file I used to use. Guess I will eventually have to learn ADB.It says s-off which I thought it meant rooted.
Rebooot into hboot, look for s-off if it says that, your rooted. If it says s-on than it isnt
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sonami said:
Rebooot into hboot, look for s-off if it says that, your rooted. If it says s-on than it isnt
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It says s-off but cant do anything, cant install busybox, do anything with rom manager etc...
Too many possible solutions...brain exploding...
Roms are "rooted" so the problem is in the rom you have itself. If you have no recovery, simple suggestsions are...
-See if you are able to install an updated version of Superuser from the Android Market and fix your permission problems and let you reflash recovery.
-Flash a custom recovery via bootloader and flash whatever rooted rom you want from that custom recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179386
-Flash a pre-rooted stock PG05IMG.zip in bootloader such as the custom one in the rooting tutorial
somebody set you up the bomb?
were you able to get clockwork on at least(if it didn't get put on automatically when you s-off'd)
I couldnt get into clockwork, i renamed a stock debloat rom and tried to load in recovery it says it loaded but it didnt nothing happened.
Run step 3 again
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Screw it it says s-off Im rooted but then I cant get into clockwork or busybox Im just going back to stock.
Try flashing a different rom, like gingeritis or bamf. If it doesn't load through cwm, try installing a working cwm like the above posts mentioned. And then try again. My guess is your still on a stock rom so there is no root functions available to you, or your cwm is corrupted
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blueis300 said:
Screw it it says s-off Im rooted but then I cant get into clockwork or busybox Im just going back to stock.
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Hold up on that. Let me find a post on my phone.
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Here we go. Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003088
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ddgarcia05 said:
Here we go. Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003088
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His main problem is that he says he doesn't have a custom recovery (clockwork) installed. So he can't flash this.
Only thing he can access and use is hboot right now so using my second or third suggestion above (which he would have to do in order to flash that zip) would definitely fix his issues. The first suggestion I gave would help in some situations so I added it first but as I said, 2nd and 3rd would work fine.
All this assumes he actually doesn't have a custom recovery but does have engineering hboot s-off. If this much isn't true, then he could just unroot and start over using the pinned guides in the dev section.
Absolute_Zero said:
His main problem is that he says he doesn't have a custom recovery (clockwork) installed. So he can't flash this.
Only thing he can access and use is hboot right now so using my second or third suggestion above (which he would have to do in order to flash that zip) would definitely fix his issues. The first suggestion I gave would help in some situations so I added it first but as I said, 2nd and 3rd would work fine.
All this assumes he actually doesn't have a custom recovery but does have engineering hboot s-off. If this much isn't true, then he could just unroot and start over using the pinned guides in the dev section.
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You are correct my friend, i have eng hboot s-off but I just need to follow the directions in the dev section if I really want to pursue this further. I went back to stock and when I have time or feel like trying again I will follow the guide as I re downloaded the files again.
I do have another question as Im a little slow lol. I have or am installing the sdk package now and to follow the dev root how do I get to the adb section. I just start the manager and go from a c: prompt nad use the line by line from there as if I tried using terminal from the phone it would get lost right? Sorry for the stupid question its just I used to use the auto root method that I had and it always worked then I lost the files. I also install all or everything it wants to for SDK correct?
ok on step 5 and it says device offline or error and is not working a little help please.
Ok I tried adb and I get errors , permission denied, tried several auto roots and get errors. This phone really doesnt want me to freaking root. Time to get a different phone or actually stay stock as it runs good and battery life isnt bad.

[q] rom manager clockword recovery

so I rooted my TB using super one click root. I restarted my phone and saw the superuser app in my drawer so to make sure I was rooted I downloaded titanium back and see if it gave me root access and I was able to gain root access to the app. So my next thing was to get Rom manager I downloaded that it asked for my root access I press allowed and I was able to use the app, I click flash clockword recovery and it successfully installed, so now I was going to download a Rom to my phone well i had a rom already. On my SD card so from Rom manager it says install Rom from SD card I click that found the Rom on my SD card checked off the wipe and back up and ok. Phone turns off and boot up on hboot on bootloader, so it didn't work I tried to go back in Rom manager click reboot in recovery and the phone shuts off and boot back into hboot bootloader. Now keep in mind I am rooted but I can't access the recovery I keep getting sent to hboot,
Can you get to CWR manually from the hboot menu? If not (and you have the latest RomManager and recovery), your recovery didn't flash. Erase and reflash it.
I was not aware that super one click worked on the tbolt. and even if it did you cant flash a custom rom with s-on. If i were you i would download root checker from the market , it will tell you if you are rooted correctly which i dought you are....
I don't think super1click does work on the tbolt. I just assumed he meant one of the other one-clicks like Easyroot or something. I didn't pay much attention to it because he claims he has SU and TiBu works.
Should be one of these:
RomManager needs updating.
Recovery needs reflashing/updating.
Hey guys thx for the replies well your right in the bootloaded or Hboot mode it does say S-on, and for some reason Super one Click work, cuz i tried to use the TB auto root click but it went half through the process as it was pushing the files, and it got stuck for like 20 mins didnt do anything, so i unhooked it and closed eveyrthing out and then tried the super one click and it did its process and a window pop up saying device rooted. so i restarted the phone and saw the superuser and to make sure i was rooted, i tried the Titanium back up, and was able to back up my apps, and then i got the wireless tether app and tried to used that and that work showing i had superuser permission. but the rom manager isnt working im able to open the app look at the rom it has on rom manager but when i go to flash rom from sd card it reboots in Hboot, with the S-on. i tried to go to recovery i press recovery and it boot back up in Hboot, so is there any suggestion should i unroot and use another method to root so that i can be able to get into clockword recovery.
You can't flash clockwork recovery with s-on.
Go here for s-off
http://revolutionary.io
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So is it ok to do that revolutionary process with my TB in the condition its in (Root with S-on) or should i flash the MR2 file to restore it back to it factory state and then do the revolutionary process
I would say you are good to go ahead. Just jump right in. You are basically stock except that you can use root access apps.
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Once you get S-Off, the whole point of rooting opens up to you. Great ROMs and no carrier bloat.

Revolutionary Question

So is it ok to do that revolutionary process with my TB in the condition its in (Root with S-on) or should i flash the MR2 file to restore it back to it factory state and then do the revolutionary process
I'm not sure how you got true root with s-on. Anyway I would go back to stock to err on the side of caution.
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I can take my bolt back to stock,like when i bought it?
I just meant an unrooted stock build. Like MR2 as he said.
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JBO1018 said:
I'm not sure how you got true root with s-on. Anyway I would go back to stock to err on the side of caution.
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Well its funny how i got root, i used the TB auto root click, but as it was goin thru the process pushing the files, after it made the phone reboot, it said to match the device number and click enter and as i did that it just stayed in the same position on the ADB so i unplugged it, started up Superoneclick root and click the root button it did its thang and said device rooted, i restarted my phone and saw the superuser in the app drawer i tested the wireless tether and it worked acccepting my root access, so thats how i got root,
so to be on a safe side i should push it back to stock and then do the revolutionary method
That's what I said. ;-)
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Can i reinstall revolutionary recovery,when i installed rom manager and ran it,it installed its own recovery,is it ok to use rom manager recovery,or can i reinstall revolutionary?and if i can,do i do it the same way i did the first time,when rooting it?

Rooted ICS - superuser does not work?

I've just updated to ICS via OTA, unlocked, flashed amonra, installed su from amonra (rooted).
Titanium Backup cannot get root rights.
Superuser (3.1.3) shows outdated binary (3.0.3). When I click "check for updates" and then Update, it downloads new binary, but then says "Gaining root access... fail!"
What's wrong? Am I really rooted?
Please help!
hippopo said:
I've just updated to ICS via OTA, unlocked, flashed amonra, installed su from amonra (rooted).
Titanium Backup cannot get root rights.
Superuser (3.1.3) shows outdated binary (3.0.3). When I click "check for updates" and then Update, it downloads new binary, but then says "Gaining root access... fail!"
What's wrong? Am I really rooted?
Please help!
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try flashing a superuser.zip
AshtonTS said:
try flashing a superuser.zip
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Where do I get it?
How do I flash it?
hippopo said:
Where do I get it?
How do I flash it?
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look on google for it, and flash it in amon ra, just like a rom or something
AshtonTS said:
look on google for it, and flash it in amon ra, just like a rom or something
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Thanks!! It worked!
hippopo said:
Thanks!! It worked!
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Glad to help!
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Not sure if we are an "ARM" device or a "x86". Which one did you download so that I can make sure I get the right one as I am having this problem.
sk8bert12 said:
Not sure if we are an "ARM" device or a "x86". Which one did you download so that I can make sure I get the right one as I am having this problem.
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Download this one. Check here for others. The efghi in the zips file name stands for eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb and ice cream sandwich. So if you are running one of those you are good to flash it.
uToTMeH8 said:
Download this one. Check here for others. The efghi in the zips file name stands for eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb and ice cream sandwich. So if you are running one of those you are good to flash it.
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I use amon ra and have s-off. Do I need to change the zip file?
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I tried a few versions of SuperUser from the author's website, but they did not work.
I used SuperSU.zip instead. flashed it with Ramon ra recovery. Works ok.
hippopo said:
I've just updated to ICS via OTA, unlocked, flashed amonra, installed su from amonra (rooted).
Titanium Backup cannot get root rights.
Superuser (3.1.3) shows outdated binary (3.0.3). When I click "check for updates" and then Update, it downloads new binary, but then says "Gaining root access... fail!"
What's wrong? Am I really rooted?
Please help!
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i know what you mean.. i flashed the OTA update over on the "ICS is Live" thread and even when i installed SU through AmonRa (Developer Menu), it said i wasnt rooted in the root checker app. so what i did, is i had a zip of of the SU and i flashed THAT and now i have root access. i'll share the zip i flashed in an attachment.
Which version of Amon Ra are you using? I tried reflashing 3.15 after updating to ics .12 and I can't get it to load. When I try to enter recovery I just reboot like normal.
xCOOLHWIPx said:
Which version of Amon Ra are you using? I tried reflashing 3.15 after updating to ics .12 and I can't get it to load. When I try to enter recovery I just reboot like normal.
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Exactly how did you try to reflash...via ph98img or fastboot command...if fastboot commands, you need to flash jb hboot.
topgun1953 said:
Exactly how did you try to reflash...via ph98img or fastboot command...if fastboot commands, you need to flash jb hboot.
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xCOOLHWIPx said:
Which version of Amon Ra are you using? I tried reflashing 3.15 after updating to ics .12 and I can't get it to load. When I try to enter recovery I just reboot like normal.
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im running AmonRa v3.15 ...when i booted up after OTA Flash (i had no root or AmonRa recovery), i downloaded an Explorer app so i could remove the PH98IMG.zip. then i proceeded to unlock the bootloader via HTCDev, flash AmonRa via CMD, then i tried flashing SU via developer menu but no go, so then i flashed the SU that i had on my SDcard (Posted in previous comment) and WALAAA i had root. then i proceeded to Update SU via its app.. no problems so far.
xCOOLHWIPx said:
Which version of Amon Ra are you using? I tried reflashing 3.15 after updating to ics .12 and I can't get it to load. When I try to enter recovery I just reboot like normal.
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Make sure fastboot is turned off.
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I had the same exact issue when I updated my wife's phone and I've been stumped ever since. Of course, I only now stumbled on this thread. :silly:
When I installed the OTA update on my phone...I immediately decided to S-OFF and installed ViperRez. I have no issues.
When I installed the OTA update on my wife's phone...I stayed S-ON and installed ViperRez. I then got the same message in Titanium Backup and none of ViperTweaks work. Everything else works great...but any "root-involved" operations won't. I installed BusyBox...that didn't work either. I updated Superuser...that didn't work. I think I even installed SuperSU...which didn't do a thing. I then tried OneClickRoot_1.1, which actually said it successfully perm rooted...but it still didn't work. I'll definitely try to flash Superuser when she gets home though. I was afraid I was going to have to redo everything.
I found THIS POST over on one of the other threads on ICS problems and it worked perfectly. I now have Superuser installed, did the update, and I am rooted.
Ugh...still not working for me.
First I flashed Superuser 3.1.3 in AmonRa. The AOSP lockscreen and some of the custom text all suddenly changed. Yet Titanium Backup still wouldn't get root. I then flashed 3.0.7. and it still wouldn't work. I then updated Superuser and Titanium Backup (reinstall) and I still can't get root in Titanium Backup and the ViperTweaks locks up whenever it wants to restart the phone or restart Sense. I also tried the script from the previous post, and that didn't work. This is my wife's phone by the way...she's on OTA ICS, S-ON, and on ViperRez.
I'm at a loss for what to do next....
just try TWRP then user the super user from google market
Thank you...but unfortunately, that didn't work either. Titanium still won't work and root checker says it's not rooted. Superuser installed perfectly though...really weird.:crying:

No root - HBoot 1.58 - Phone unlocked - Recovery flashed

Can someone help me root this phone?
I unlocked it via HTC method and I even flashed a recovery. But when the phone boots up, I am unable to use any super user permissions. So, I download root check and it says I am not rooted. What am I doing wrong?
I didn't have this pain on HB 1.5
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mariojp said:
Can someone help me root this phone?
I unlocked it via HTC method and I even flashed a recovery. But when the phone boots up, I am unable to use any super user permissions. So, I download root check and it says I am not rooted. What am I doing wrong?
I didn't have this pain on HB 1.5
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flash this through recovery and you will have superuser.
spirithandler said:
flash this through recovery and you will have superuser.
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I had also did that. Thing is, when I booted back up, my phone was in the state of not being rooted. Even after flashing the superuser zip.
So, what I did was flash the boot.img from the rom I wanted to flash, through fastboot.
Thank you for the help though. It's really appreciated.
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I had the same issue...
mariojp said:
I had also did that. Thing is, when I booted back up, my phone was in the state of not being rooted. Even after flashing the superuser zip.
So, what I did was flash the boot.img from the rom I wanted to flash, through fastboot.
Thank you for the help though. It's really appreciated.
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Months ago I used HTCDev to unlock and flashed TWRP recovery and su-2.3.6.3.zip from this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
I was underwhelmed with the MIUI ROM and got curious about Sprint's ICS update, so I relocked the bootloader and ran the 2.17 RUU.exe, then updated to 2.89 OTA. After that I could use my original HTCDev Unlock_code.bin to unlock the bootloader, but su-2.3.6.3 would not give me proper root access (verified with Root Checker app). Thankfully downloading Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip from http://androidsu.com/superuser/ and flashing it through recovery worked.
I now have root with the stock Sprint ICS. Why? Because I wanted to keep the 3D and Wimax functionality (i know, i know) while still being able to run TiBackup to freeze the goddamned pre-installed apps that everyone hates. I'm sure this is stated elsewhere in the forums, but I read your post before I resolved my issue so I thought I'd come back and reply just in case you or anyone else were still grappling with it.
comn_cents said:
Months ago I used HTCDev to unlock and flashed TWRP recovery and su-2.3.6.3.zip from this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
I was underwhelmed with the MIUI ROM and got curious about Sprint's ICS update, so I relocked the bootloader and ran the 2.17 RUU.exe, then updated to 2.89 OTA. After that I could use my original HTCDev Unlock_code.bin to unlock the bootloader, but su-2.3.6.3 would not give me proper root access (verified with Root Checker app). Thankfully downloading Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip from http://androidsu.com/superuser/ and flashing it through recovery worked.
I now have root with the stock Sprint ICS. Why? Because I wanted to keep the 3D and Wimax functionality (i know, i know) while still being able to run TiBackup to freeze the goddamned pre-installed apps that everyone hates. I'm sure this is stated elsewhere in the forums, but I read your post before I resolved my issue so I thought I'd come back and reply just in case you or anyone else were still grappling with it.
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Thanks a lot, that really helped me to root a brand new stok rom on the Sprint evo 3d!
Just for future reference when you download a super user zip, notice the letters next to superuser efghi those letters represent the past android os's (e)clair, (f)royo, (g)ingerbread, (h)oneycomb, and (I)cecream sandwhich. Always look for that if you plan to root a stock Rom.

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