Hi,
I'm slightly confused by the memory... in Task Manager it says something like Used 600MB, Free 208MB.
However, if I click Menu and go to Advanced > Running Services, it has at the bottom something like RAM - 240MB used, 516MB free.
What are the different screens telling me?
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Hi all.
I am using watchdog task manager and according to this program the max free memory I have are 5mb (15mb are used by this appl). I use just 3 desktop with ADW launcher and I have not installed more than 4 o 5 applications. Is there a better program to see how much free memory I have and what program is consuming it? is it normal the low free memory in x10 mini?
Second, after rooting and delete some standard applications I notice that phone takes a lot time to turn on. Is there any boot log to look for errors or problems?
And finally, as I said I am using ADW Launcher, but every time I turn off and on the phone, watchdog lists the default SE Launcher running iddle in background, I kill it but its start again when I turn on the phone. Is it normal? can i delete the default launcher safely?
In summary I think i need a better task manager
PS: sorry my english.
Hiya!
I currently have enough apps that I'm using 6 pages in my applications tray. As many of you here probably do as well, I often install apps that I know I won't use often, simply because I may need them when I'm not within range of 3G.
I was wondering, though, if there's a limit to the number of apps that we can install due to a maximum number of screens in the app tray?
Thanks!
IDtheTarget said:
Hiya!
I currently have enough apps that I'm using 6 pages in my applications tray. As many of you here probably do as well, I often install apps that I know I won't use often, simply because I may need them when I'm not within range of 3G.
I was wondering, though, if there's a limit to the number of apps that we can install due to a maximum number of screens in the app tray?
Thanks!
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No clue if there's a hard limit (beyond what's available storage wise of course). One of my best friends is up to 13 screens full of crap-ware in his Fascinate, so I'd say you're a long way from being at a limit.
Long press on your home button to activate your Task Manager
Click Summary
View the Program bar graph.
Should say XXX/1.87GB
or
Settings > SD card and phone storage > Application Storage > Avaliable Space
kizer said:
Long press on your home button to activate your Task Manager
Click Summary
View the Program bar graph.
Should say XXX/1.87GB
or
Settings > SD card and phone storage > Application Storage > Avaliable Space
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I think i like that new Task Manager app.
It's pretty cool.
People say don't use task killers because they waste more power then they save....which makes sense but a bit contradictory and some background knowledge would help me.
Is this mainly if you use them to automatically close certain apps or is it also if you use a task killer just to monitor them and close a few certain apps manually when you back out of them (since a few select apps like to keep running even if you never need them)
So is the stock active application widget power/battery consuming? or only if you keep 'clearing memory', or is clearing memory every now and again good? I currently clear my memory when it gets to 500mb used....is there any point to this ..performance/ battery?
And lastly, if i were to put on go launcher....could i still use active applications or should i remove it and use the go launcher version (which is quite cool)
I'm very new to android and enjoying my S3 for two weeks. Sorry for the dump question but I'm still not sure about the interface that is shown after long press of home button.
a) Is it just a dummy task history including all active and inactive applications executed previously.
b) Or... Is it a task manager that shows only active background (consuming ram) applications.
I know that any application that have a RAM place will consume the battery, So which one of above item is the true one ?
An important second question: What does "Remove All" button do ? Just clears task history or kills all active background tasks ?
Regards...
buyukbang said:
I'm very new to android and enjoying my S3 for two weeks. Sorry for the dump question but I'm still not sure about the interface that is shown after long press of home button.
a) Is it just a dummy task history including all active and inactive applications executed previously.
b) Or... Is it a task manager that shows only active background (consuming ram) applications.
I know that any application that have a RAM place will consume the battery, So which one of above item is the true one ?
An important second question: What does "Remove All" button do ? Just clears task history or kills all active background tasks ?
Regards...
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It's a history, not a list of active apps. From that screen, press task manager at the bottom left and go to the active applications tab on the very left (scroll the list of tabs if necessary). There you can see the list of active apps.
Don't forget that to exit most apps, you have to use the back button (or the exit fuction if the app has one, like Skype) rather than the home button.
buyukbang said:
I'm very new to android and enjoying my S3 for two weeks. Sorry for the dump question but I'm still not sure about the interface that is shown after long press of home button.
a) Is it just a dummy task history including all active and inactive applications executed previously.
b) Or... Is it a task manager that shows only active background (consuming ram) applications.
I know that any application that have a RAM place will consume the battery, So which one of above item is the true one ?
An important second question: What does "Remove All" button do ? Just clears task history or kills all active background tasks ?
Regards...
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Well, i'm not using stock rom so i'm not very sure. But i think that's just inactive applications executed previously. If they were background tasks, and you killed them, they would continue running background later. You can check apps in Settings -> Apps -> Running
Semi-noob said:
Well, i'm not using stock rom so i'm not very sure. But i think that's just inactive applications executed previously. If they were background tasks, and you killed them, they would continue running background later. You can check apps in Settings -> Apps -> Running
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Here is a decent article that explains why you shouldn't get too worried about seeing apps in your running apps list. If you're worried about conserving the battery, it is much more important to switch off stuff when you don't need it. For example do not use auto-sync, just manually sync what you want time to time. Manually switch off everything that you do not use before leaving your phone idle, like the wifi, mobile data, gps, etc. Also it's a paradox but it seems that you have to set your "keep wi-fi on during sleep" to always in the wifi advanced settings!?
Thank you guys. This information is really usuaful for me !
@daviddema,
I read the article, thx for that, too. So do I understand correctly:
Even a completely empty RAM consumes as much as the one filled with cache data (to start it faster in the future) of stopped applications ?
buyukbang said:
Even a completely empty RAM consumes as much as the one filled with cache data (to start it faster in the future) of stopped applications ?
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Yes.
Empty RAM uses as much power as used RAM.
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Thank you for the answer. Now it's more clear for me...
nodstuff said:
Yes.
Empty RAM uses as much power as used RAM.
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Is it a good idea to constantly long-press home button and swipe the recently opened apps away? Is this the equivalent of "killing" the apps? I'm asking because I read that killing your apps is usually a bad idea because your RAM should always be used and it actually hurts your battery life. Is there a difference between this and going to the process manager and deleting the process?
When should I swipe recently opened apps away? Currently, I do this to free some RAM but I'm not sure if it's necessary.
Does your swipe include killing apps ? or it just removes it from recent apps list ?
if it kills , I'd say that don't swipe away important applications that you constantly use like launcher,browser,whatsapp etc
on the other hand you can swipe off apps you rarely use and which might be open like games , or other apps
you are right about swiping the important apps,it does more harm than good
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mindstormer said:
Is it a good idea to constantly long-press home button and swipe the recently opened apps away? Is this the equivalent of "killing" the apps? I'm asking because I read that killing your apps is usually a bad idea because your RAM should always be used and it actually hurts your battery life. Is there a difference between this and going to the process manager and deleting the process?
When should I swipe recently opened apps away? Currently, I do this to free some RAM but I'm not sure if it's necessary.
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When you swipe away recent apps you are essentially "exiting" the app safely where as when you use a task manger application you are force closing the application on the spot. This is not the same as "killing" the app in a technical sense what is happening is two things. The first thing that is happening when you swipe away a recent app is it kills any background process or empty processes of the application in a safe manner (Check out this section of the Android developer guide for more info on what this is about) unlike a task manger which just kills the entire application process negatively effecting performance. Second what is happening is the new API is used to tell any services of the action that is what removed so that the system can appropriate action such as starting a new process or service (For more on this see this section in the Android developer documentation). In answering you RAM question Android manages it's own memory which is why task killers once again mess this up and hurt rather then help performance. The recent application list shows what apps were recently used and clearing this will tell the applications to exist free some memory but some of their background services and tasks will still always run in the background as part of the app using some memory and battery. To explicitly and completely stop an app from memory you can go to Android built in application manger under System Settings > Application Manger and then go to the running tab and see what applications are running in the background. Overall, removing recent applications will help battery life but as previously mentioned the apps background processes will use some of system's battery and memory resources. If you are interested in learning more about this I would recommend checking out this.
shimp208 said:
When you swipe away recent apps you are essentially "exiting" the app safely where as when you use a task manger application you are force closing the application on the spot. This is not the same as "killing" the app in a technical sense what is happening is two things. The first thing that is happening when you swipe away a recent app is it kills any background process or empty processes of the application in a safe manner (Check out this section of the Android developer guide for more info on what this is about) unlike a task manger which just kills the entire application process negatively effecting performance. Second what is happening is the new API is used to tell any services of the action that is what removed so that the system can appropriate action such as starting a new process or service (For more on this see this section in the Android developer documentation). In answering you RAM question Android manages it's own memory which is why task killers once again mess this up and hurt rather then help performance. The recent application list shows what apps were recently used and clearing this will tell the applications to exist free some memory but some of their background services and tasks will still always run in the background as part of the app using some memory and battery. To explicitly and completely stop an app from memory you can go to Android built in application manger under System Settings > Application Manger and then go to the running tab and see what applications are running in the background. Overall, removing recent applications will help battery life but as previously mentioned the apps background processes will use some of system's battery and memory resources. If you are interested in learning more about this I would recommend checking out this.
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soham jambhekar said:
Does your swipe include killing apps ? or it just removes it from recent apps list ?
if it kills , I'd say that don't swipe away important applications that you constantly use like launcher,browser,whatsapp etc
on the other hand you can swipe off apps you rarely use and which might be open like games , or other apps
you are right about swiping the important apps,it does more harm than good
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Awesome, thanks for the informative posts.