Y'all probably thought this was another one of those "OMG my speeds are terrible! the photon 4g's speeds aren't terrible so why are my speeds garbage?!?!?!?!" If that's what you expected...well...I'm sorry that's what our General section has become. Anyways, let me go to my point:
So I was looking into my 3G speeds..they've been terrible lately (of course)..so I'm just dicking around with my phone trying to get it right...
I found out that the 3G speeds on the dual core kernels is a lot better than stock. So that got me wondering "maybe the 3G relies more on the second processor and the reason why the dual core kernels have better speeds is because the second processor is always active." I've been going back and forth on dual core and stock and it looked like it was holding up but I started thinking "that can't be right" so...I went with the stock kernel and just put it on performance and went back to testing...and sure enough, the 3G speeds are better. Not insanely better but before putting it on performance my ping was around 1200-1800ms...after, its around 700-900ms.
Here's why I think our speeds suck...it's because HTC is actually making decent kernels. Our phones sleep like babies and with the ondemand governor...the up threshold is at 90 by default...so that prevents the phone jumping up to 1.2GHz all of the time. But I'm thinking that's actually hurting us because our phones actually have to do some real work before it goes from 400MHz to 1.2GHz. So we could be in the browser with the ondemand governor and the up threshold at 90 and trying to open a page...our processor might jump to 800MHz but since that's not a lot of power...our 3G speeds will suffer. Now if it were just at 1.2GHz to begin with, it'd be a lot better.
So if what I'm thinking is right...we probably aren't even benefiting from having our CPU's hang around lower frequencies because if my ping is 1800ms...my 3G has to be on longer just to load up a page when compared to a phone with a ping of 900ms...So I'm starting to think that we are actually hurting ourselves by trying our hardest to save as much battery as possible.
Ill flash a dual core kernel now and post before and after results.
Thanks for the info. My 3g speeds are making me mental (I didn't update prl either)
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Ill flash a dual core kernel now and post before and after results.
Thanks for the info. My 3g speeds are making me mental (I didn't update prl either)
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Thank you sir. My speeds are making me crazy as well...and I just decided to post this because I know it'll get people testing on it too that way we can all come to a conclusion on SOMETHING. We've all been saying our 3G speeds suck for a while and now it's time to pinpoint the problem.
And I think I owe the thread this much:
I live in Dallas and at my house I was working with 3-4 bars when using the speedtest app.
First I just used the ondemand governor at 1.2GHz and up threshold of 90 and got ~1200ms the first and second time and then ~1800ms the third time.
I went to the dual core kernel that I think smokey made...and I used his VOC one (because you can mess with setCPU with that one) and my ping was around 400-600ms.
I went back to my stock kernel and lowered the up threshold to 40 and I was still getting around 1000ms-1500ms...averaging basically 1200ms.
I put it on performance and at first got ~700ms then ~900ms then 400-600ms and I got a best of ~300ms.
Also:
"In most constant-voltage cases it is more efficient to run briefly at peak speed and stay in a deep idle state for longer (called "race to idle"), than it is to run at a reduced clock rate for a long time and only stay briefly in a light idle state"
I read taht from wikipedia. That's why I'm against setCPU profiles with the screen off. It is in fact better to use those profiles with 2.3.x than 2.2 because I remember 2.2 wasn't really killing any apps so if you were awake with the screen off..you pretty much stay awake. But it's also important to note that it does take longer for the processor to go into an idle mode if you are using any governor other than performance because of the fact that you have to scale up...and depending on how the dev decided to "conserve" battery, it might take a really long time.
But at the same time..you're using unnecessary power when at 1.2GHz to handle something real small...but since the whole CPU isn't being used to handle that (according to System Panel), and at an increased frequency like 1.2GHz...you'd be able to knock the task out quicker...idk, I'm just thinking.
Just wanted to show you my before now because it may be a few minutes to post my after.
Notice that teensy weeny 1 bar next to my 3g. That's pretty normal when I'm home (thank god for wifi). Ill be back!
ms79723 said:
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"In most constant-voltage cases it is more efficient to run briefly at peak speed and stay in a deep idle state for longer (called "race to idle"), than it is to run at a reduced clock rate for a long time and only stay briefly in a light idle state"
I read taht from wikipedia. That's why I'm against setCPU profiles with the screen off. It is in fact better to use those profiles with 2.3.x than 2.2 because I remember 2.2 wasn't really killing any apps so if you were awake with the screen off..you pretty much stay awake. But it's also important to note that it does take longer for the processor to go into an idle mode if you are using any governor other than performance because of the fact that you have to scale up...and depending on how the dev decided to "conserve" battery, it might take a really long time.
But at the same time..you're using unnecessary power when at 1.2GHz to handle something real small...but since the whole CPU isn't being used to handle that (according to System Panel), and at an increased frequency like 1.2GHz...you'd be able to knock the task out quicker...idk, I'm just thinking.
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That's some good thinking and good info.
Rootyourdroid.net. My nephews blog.
I've noticed a little bit of a difference but I also know sometimes it takes time for a kernel to settle in.
Both screen shots are from the same place in my house.
This is a placebo. You can update your prl to 00001 and see a real speed increase. The real problem is with sprints backhaul network. With the same kernel I go from 100 kbps on sprint to 1000 kbps on Verizon. Fact.
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This is a placebo. You can update your prl to 00001 and see a real speed increase. The real problem is with sprints backhaul network. With the same kernel I go from 100 kbps on sprint to 1000 kbps on Verizon. Fact.
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What are the chances of sprint finding out? I really don't want to send one of my kids to Verizon so I can keep the Evo 3d.
Rootyourdroid.net. My nephews blog.
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What are the chances of sprint finding out? I really don't want to send one of my kids to Verizon so I can keep the Evo 3d.
Rootyourdroid.net. My nephews blog.
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You see, the only real problem is that if you roam too much on one of those PRLs (and you're always roaming, technically) Sprint will tell you that you're roaming too much and they'll drop you if it continues. If it does, then they'll send you a letter informing you that your service will be terminated and they give you X amount of days to find a new service before they officially discontinue your service. Those PRLs are great because I get excellent service, but if you plan on using 3G like crazy (even in WiFi spots) expect that letter. I never noticed any difference in my speeds and only used the PRL for a day or two, but if you like it go for it. It should also be noted that some guys have been using the PRL hack for around a year without anything to show for on Sprint's side, in terms of angry letters and whatnot, so you may be fine. It's all preference.
Hmmmmm. I've been with sprint for 10 years. I'm gonna have to think about that one. If I could get 4g from it (I know I can't), it would be a no brainer. But to chance losing sprint may not be worth a few more kbps.
Edit. You know what really grinds my gears? (Everyone knows where that's from). Is my niece is visiting and she has a thunderbolt. I just ran speed tests on her 4g and my 3d over wifi and she wooped me by almost 4 mbps. Just ain't fair.
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Hmmmmm. I've been with sprint for 10 years. I'm gonna have to think about that one. If I could get 4g from it (I know I can't), it would be a no brainer. But to chance losing sprint may not be worth a few more kbps.
Edit. You know what really grinds my gears? (Everyone knows where that's from). Is my niece is visiting and she has a thunderbolt. I just ran speed tests on her 4g and my 3d over wifi and she wooped me by almost 4 mbps. Just ain't fair.
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It's so frustrating, Sprint's overloaded network needs a biiiggg tuneup. And that announcement they're supposed to make coming up soon about their network (from an article I read on Engadget a week or so ago) hopefully will let us know about LTE integration or somehow fixing our crawling data speeds... but hey, you could give the 00001 PRL a run and if they tell you that you're roaming too much then drop the PRL, and go back to normal ones. I personally don't think it's worth it but also I spend most of the day in school (with WiFi) or at home (with WiFi) so it doesn't affect me too much. But not even getting 4G at home or school sucks a lot.
so if your saying on demand gov is hurting our 3g, then should setting it on performance get higher speed? considering thata the cpu running at max speed? JW.
I dont get why everyone trusts speed.net or whatever. I ran a test with my evo3d and my samsung transform side by side. the transform always showed higher speeds but always took longer load up or down. my evo would be done way before the transform and would never read as high of speeds. Also tested my nexus and photon and they all avg around the same for me.
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so if your saying on demand gov is hurting our 3g, then should setting it on performance get higher speed? considering thata the cpu running at max speed? JW.
I dont get why everyone trusts speed.net or whatever. I ran a test with my evo3d and my samsung transform side by side. the transform always showed higher speeds but always took longer load up or down. my evo would be done way before the transform and would never read as high of speeds. Also tested my nexus and photon and they all avg around the same for me.
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Only speed test that I'm really aware of.
Rootyourdroid.net. My nephews blog.
Main reason im leaving sprint Ben with them 8 year between paying for premium data and being able to use it and the contract changes in not happy
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Only speed test that I'm really aware of.
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Xtreme labs has a speed test app too
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Check this out...I think I really was on to something y'all.
I'm running Empire's AOSP rom (he has sound working btw so if you didn't know that, now you know. Go download and support!) and I did a speed test...my ping averages less than 100ms! The most I've seen was ~120ms. Remember what I was saying when I was on Sense? I was getting a best of 500-600ms on a dual core kernel and about 1200-1800ms on stock.
Sense seems to not only be messing up the performance...but its probably tanking our 3G speeds as well. I mean this is ridiculous....from ~1200ms to ~100ms. C'mon HTC Sense...
just ran another test after a reboot...ping was actually over 120ms (it was 148) and my download was 1334kbps and the upload was 635kbps. **** you Sense.
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So today I pre-ordered the evo 3d, something i told my girl friend I wouldn't do lol! You know I love the Nexus, its a great phone, but the other day I flash the miui rom and it messed up my calling for some reason. My girlfriend would call me and it take her to "im sorry you can not reach this person right now," and when i would call her it would make a beeping sound. It is not that bad because it doesn't happen all the time but I gave me a reason to switch phones. I still have 30 days left on my nexus so why not?
So I went into best buy and to pre-order and the lady was looking to fixed the problem I told her I had and she said if I mind if she deletes everything on my sd card. I was like "NOOOOOO!!!!!!" lolz I was gonna say I have an unrooted stock recovery in that, but she probably wouldn't know what that meant.
Anywho hopefully the evo 3d can be rooted as easy as the nexus. I'm not jive with the one click root method. I will sure miss the 4000+ quadrant scores tho haha
How'd you get 4000+ quadrant scores?
CM7 + Netarchy Kernel + OC to 1.4 = awesome sauce. The highest I got was 4200, the trinity kernel can OC to 1.5 and get 5500+ @[email protected], but ehh I take quadrants with a grain of salt, but boy are they fun to run when you get earth shattering numbers.
I have a Nexus too and for a single core device. Its beast!!!
Some kernels spoof their abilities to pretty much replicate a time machine. It thinks it's processing data before it is. The same CPU is in the Epic, and it can pull at most, 2800. (That's OC'd to 1.4 ghz). It was explained somewhere else, not sure I remember correctly.
I just think you are making an excuse to switch
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I just think you are making an excuse to switch
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Hhahahhahahaha it may seem so! lol Im excited for the release its going to be awesome!!!!!!! But ehhh I'm sorta of said, i just unrooted my nexus ;( sad sad day. But cant wait for the 24th, thats my day off.
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Some kernels spoof their abilities to pretty much replicate a time machine. It thinks it's processing data before it is. The same CPU is in the Epic, and it can pull at most, 2800. (That's OC'd to 1.4 ghz). It was explained somewhere else, not sure I remember correctly.
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When I opened the Nexus it got 2250 stock on quadrant. Epic runs all that touchwiz junk. AOSP will always be better performance wise.
hmm your nexus is probably a factory freak because the highest stock quadrant on mine is 1850 but it is so inconsistent. Sometimes i get 1300, 1400, 1500, it chooses when it wants to give out a high score lol! BTW does anyone know to how wave an activation fee?
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hmm your nexus is probably a factory freak because the highest stock quadrant on mine is 1850 but it is so inconsistent. Sometimes i get 1300, 1400, 1500, it chooses when it wants to give out a high score lol! BTW does anyone know to how wave an activation fee?
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Call sprint and ask. If they so no... hangup and call again! haha.
I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
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This is agreed up to a point. Sooner or later they will be creating apps and OS' that will truly utilize the full dual cores potential within the phone. I personally believe that up until that point the OP is 100% right on. But once this does happen, these apps will become more and more processor heavy. And once that happens, I believe we'll be back in the same boat as before and 1.2 vs. 1.7 will actually make a bit of a difference to the typical end user (and not just by benchmark enthusiasts).
The only reason I believe this to be true is look at how PCs and laptops evolved. We got dual core processors and apps weren't quite using the full potential, then as time went on and programmers started utilizing the full processing capabilities of dual/quad cores (& as these processors became more and more common) the differences began to matter again. That's just my 2 cents & I could be completely wrong, but just wanted to share my thoughts. Good topic though
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I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
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lol i did this once gotta love having multiple tabs and think you clicked on the right one ya? least thats what happend to me when i did it
I agree with you. Even in the games i play there is almost no difference, except that the battery gets drained faster because of the higher voltage.
P.s. wrong section, rable, rable, rable
I kinda agree with you in the matter of it not making a HUGE difference. But when I'm overclocked to 1.7, I do notice that it seems to scroll smoother. But that's the only difference I can see.
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I'm comin from a heroc running 768 so 1.2g MORE than enough for me. Besides any faster an yer batterys gonna last w couple hours.
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Hi Mitch! You're right, no real need for OC.
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motoelliot said:
I'm comin from a heroc running 768 so 1.2g MORE than enough for me. Besides any faster an yer batterys gonna last w couple hours.
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This would be my philosophy. A 1.2 GHz Dual Core is absolutely insane compared to what us Hero users used to have to deal with. My phone couldn't even handle 768, it was stable at 691.
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This would be my philosophy. A 1.2 GHz Dual Core is absolutely insane compared to what us Hero users used to have to deal with. My phone couldn't even handle 768, it was stable at 691.
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Yeah... My poor heros still mad at me.
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I have my 3D oc'ed to 1.5 and ever so slightly undervolt to 1175000 (too many zeroes?)
Totally stable for me. Battery doesn't seem effected much.
Of course I haven't done heavy gaming yet. So. I dunno. I'm still in the honeymoon phase of just being Able to overclock, ya know. Lol.
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I have my 3D oc'ed to 1.5 and ever so slightly undervolt to 1175000 (too many zeroes?)
Totally stable for me. Battery doesn't seem effected much.
Of course I haven't done heavy gaming yet. So. I dunno. I'm still in the honeymoon phase of just being Able to overclock, ya know. Lol.
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I dont know what the stock voltage is, but wouldnt this essentially balance out the extra battery draw from running a slightly higher clock?
Faster, Stronger .. make it so.
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I've overclocked mine a few days, now I'm at stock 1.2 almost no difference. Running the script for overclock is nice though because it allows the use of apps like setcpu. That way profiles can be set for temperature and battery charge level.
As for overclocking because its awesome fast... No need, sweet the way it is.
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I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
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I agree. It doesn't feel much if any faster and is probably needlessly using excess battey.
On the otherhand, I find there to be a pretty big difference between driving 120, 150, or even 170 mph.
mitchellvii said:
I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
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I overclock because it makes my friends with lame iPhones jealous.
bavman said:
I agree with you. Even in the games i play there is almost no difference, except that the battery gets drained faster because of the higher voltage.
P.s. wrong section, rable, rable, rable
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You goto KU?
Nice internet speeds, dorm/campus internet sucked when I was there
Once there's permanent root and htc releases the kernel source, will our phones be able to be over clocked higher then 1.7?
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I overclock because it makes my friends with lame iPhones jealous.
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Is this phone supposed to be any faster than the Captivate (Galaxy S), data wise, assuming one is in the 3G section of the AT&T site and the other in the 4G section, or is there really no jump at all? I just tried a speed test with a Captivate and my GSII, and both showed the same speed on speed test which is pretty weird in my opinion...
Really depends on your area, in socal valley I can run a captivate right next the SGS2 and get the same results with the captivate slightly slower with uploads (fixed usually with a I9000 modem)
That's what I did too, haha...Put a Captivate and GSII next to each other in SoCal, and the speed was the same, so I was like =0.
I am in a HSPA+ service area, on my captivate I almost never saw more that 2Mbps down, I see just over 3 on my i777.
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I'm getting way better speeds on my SGS2 than I was getting on my Captivate. I have my gs2 stock, but it's still faster than my Captivate stock, with stock froyo, and with numerous roms. I don't remember exactly what my speed tests were with my Cappy (around 1.5 - 3 DL and .5 to .8 Up), but I'm getting 6+ to 8 DL and 1.5 Up with my sg2
Depends on if you have a real H+ coverage?
To me it's about 3 times faster than captivate in house.
Was getting 600KB/s in a 3g area whereas the captivate only got 300 (no HSPA+ in my neighborhood)
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when I used to use the speedtest app, I got the same data speeds on my captivate and my gs2. As soon as I used the speedtest via the browser, it showed the speed difference.
Yeah, this makes more sense, the browser application and the speed test application have varying numbers...I guess speed test application =/= reliable
yeah, its documented in a few places that the speedtest app is not reliable (maybe on some devices?)
I use the FCC speed test app, more accurate results
I know this is an old thread but I didnt want to start a new one for this. I have been running side by side speed tests with a captivate running cm7. On my gs2 I'm running unnamed 2.1.1 with the UCKK6 modem. I am consistently getting better speeds on the captivate than I am on the GS2 (sometimes over 1+mbps higher) The gs2 has never gotten higher speeds than the captivate. I've tried different modems, Ive run the FCC speed test, the normal speedtest app and the speakeasy.net website all yielding the same results. I'm in an area that is supposed to have great HSPA+ coverage. I just dont understand why my GS2 isnt getting higher speeds than the captivate since it's HSPA+ and the captivate is only 3G(if I'm not mistaken) Both phones were new orders so new sims, service etc..
My captivate RARELY got to 4mbps. My sgsII usually hovers around 6-8mbps
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My captivate RARELY got to 4mbps. My sgsII usually hovers around 6-8mbps
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my Gs2 hasnt gotten over 4 yet
Just now I went outside and did a speed test. my captivate pulled a little over 4mbps and my gs2 was at 3.
Yeah i guess i have to try to different modems and settings because my captivate was pulling 5300 down and 1100 up and my GS2 is only doing a meg faster down and the same up. It kind of retarded that i had to switch my sim card to a 4g one if my speed did not really change. Does anyone know if the 3g supercharger works for 4g. I was going to ask Zep but i figured id ask here since i was making post around the subject
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Does anyone know if the 3g supercharger works for 4g. I was going to ask Zep but i figured id ask here since i was making post around the subject
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??? What 3G supercharger?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276&highlight=v6+supercharger
Zepplinrox's V6 supercharger Kick Ass Kernal (KAK) Tweaks and 3g turbocharger. You have to go to the 4th line down where it says most recent files here to get KAK and the 3g turbocharger. It worked pretty well for my captivate. I think im going to apply it to my SGSII even though its runs as smooth as can be just because i like overkill lol
/me gets popcorn while awaiting results.
I'm in Dallas, TX so AT&T coverage is not an issue here, and I get the same speed on the Captivate and the SGS2 an average of 3mbps down.
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/me gets popcorn while awaiting results.
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lol Zep your the man. Well i havent had time to try all settings thoughly to get a clear and concise judgement on the 3g turbocharger. I started off only getting around 6.3m down and 1.1m up. I ran tweakker and my next tests immediately after were all around 5.6 down 1.1 up. The next day, however, they jumped up to around 7.4 down 1.1 up. I applied 3g turbocharger fastest and experimental and test after that were around 8.3 afterwards. I ran the test five to six times on speedtest.net. I need to create an acct. so i can track this stuff. I was using the app but the app was showing 2m less consitantly on my down speeds. i really should have ran my phone longer after using tweakker to make sure around 7.4 was going to be my norm peak.
I applied V6 supercharger through build.prop and integrated running die-hard & 1000hp and also applied KAK tweak with I/O tweaks off as my phone locked up when i applied the I/O tweaks but thats probably because mine is set to CFQ. Dont know why and will probably set it to deadline. The one thing this fixed for me was the transition using the browser. Going in and out of the browser was never as snappy until now. I just cant slow this MFer down. I was concerned that i let my impatience get the best of me picking up this phone instead of waiting on the next gen as i only get a new phone when i can upgrade every 18 months but i have no doubt this phone will last me the next 18 month easily. Thanks to Entropy512, GTX465x, and Zeppelinrox My phone runs buttery smooth and i have not yet stumbled on a single hiccup. My hat is off to you gents. I feel like my phone is set for overkill and ICS still isnt out and i havent tried to go to 1600mhz. Mine is running @ 1400 BTW and under volted by -100mV. I have a feeling my next phone upgrade is really only going to be for a better screen and camera as speed probably wont ever be an issue.
This morning I restarted my prime and im looking at system tuner pro...
All 4 cores are active and stuck on either 475mhz or 1.2mhz!
I didn't change anything...governer is interactive 102-1.6mhz limit....the cores wont turn off or scale down. It would usually scale down to 102mhz and turn off 2 cores...but they're all online...
FAST is good but it's killing my battery =P
Anyone know whats going on?
Pretty sire this is across the board for the most part. This happened after update to ICS or last update. Ive noticed it also but it scales to other frequencies also. Doesn't seem to effect battery too much. Your best bet if you worried about battery is to throw it in power savings mode in Asus quick settings. But no matter what mode its in, it seems to like to stay near maxed out. Maybe Asus adjusted the frequency timing to speed up things in ICS.
apologies
I'm sorry, I didn't see any other posts about this issue.
Thanks for your input
Yeah, I've had the same problem since the ICS update, but still can't find a solution, so I'm waitng for recovery and back to HC.. And, btw, it's killing my battery - it barely holds a whole day since then..
This seems like a plausible explanation for all the reboots people are seeing. With ICS the processor is kept in a more active state which uncovers wafer defects and heats up the SoC until it goes into protection mode.
Some processors handle the load better than others and it seems the spread is veeeery wide. nVidia is probably supplying Asus with parts from all bins, if they even bother to quality check and rate their parts after coming off the production lines.
I would argue that nVidia's thresholds for what is considered a passable Tegra 3 chip are way too low for real world applications.
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This seems like a plausible explanation for all the reboots people are seeing. With ICS the processor is kept in a more active state which uncovers wafer defects and heats up the SoC until it goes into protection mode.
Some processors handle the load better than others and it seems the spread is veeeery wide. nVidia is probably supplying Asus with parts from all bins, if they even bother to quality check and rate their parts after coming off the production lines.
I would argue that nVidia's thresholds for what is considered a passable Tegra 3 chip are way too low for real world applications.
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Maybe. I can run overclocked to 1.6Ghz n still be fine no reboots. Like you said, not all chips exactly the same though. Small variances between all chips.
I'm hoping/assuming ASUS is aware of this, but just in case they're not, has anyone brought this to Gary's attention?
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I'm hoping/assuming ASUS is aware of this, but just in case they're not, has anyone brought this to Gary's attention?
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I'm sure they do know already. Probably amped the frequency timing up so ICS can stay as smooth as it is. It may get adjusted in new update we supposed to get any day now. New update "supposedly" fixes alot of issues.
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Just took a look on system tuner, mine still scales down to 102Mhz. Not all 4 cores on all the time. It does like to stay in the higher range though alot. It all depends on what you doing and what you have running in background also.
mine used to scale down to 102mhz as well...and usually with the 3rd and 4th core offline
Odd that it has changed....
Thanks for all the input...im gonna try and see if manually updating to ICS will make any difference
*edit: I put the update file into the system root but TFP won't prompt/recognize the update...guess it won't make a difference....I'll try backing up then doing a factory reset
I'm seeing something a little different. Mine scales all over the place, except it barely ever hits 1300MHz or 1400MHz, even when set on Performance and gaming/benchmarking. For example, right now, mine only show 3 seconds on 1400MHz and 5 seconds on 1300MHz, out of 13 hours uptime.
I think ASUS and Nvidia have some work left to do in getting the Tegra 3 optimized. I'd really rather mine actually use its fastest stock speeds when in Performance mode.
Overclocking?
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Maybe. I can run overclocked to 1.6Ghz n still be fine no reboots. Like you said, not all chips exactly the same though. Small variances between all chips.
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How did you get to overclock? I rooted mine, but had to return it because of problems. However, I couldn't overclock it either.
What's yur secret?
Update: Did a factory reset and all 4 cores are still online 425mhz-1.2 =(
Seems like my i/o speed just got worse and now there's severe lag...
*sigh* - will just wait for unlocked bootloader
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How did you get to overclock? I rooted mine, but had to return it because of problems. However, I couldn't overclock it either.
What's yur secret?
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Where you been? Lol we've overclocked for a good while now. Head over into Android developement section of prime. Then check out the "Vipercontrol" thread. Very easy to install n setup.
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I'm seeing something a little different. Mine scales all over the place, except it barely ever hits 1300MHz or 1400MHz, even when set on Performance and gaming/benchmarking. For example, right now, mine only show 3 seconds on 1400MHz and 5 seconds on 1300MHz, out of 13 hours uptime.
I think ASUS and Nvidia have some work left to do in getting the Tegra 3 optimized. I'd really rather mine actually use its fastest stock speeds when in Performance mode.
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That's how its supposed to be. It doesn't run at top speed full time..lol your battery wouldn't lastlong at all if it did that. It only hit tops speeds when needed. Then it scales back when not needed anymore.
As far as your timing showing only a few seconds at top speed, all that means is you didn't do anything the prime needed top speeds for.
If you want to run at full speeds all the time I have your solution. If you rooted get System tuner app. Then open app up. Go to CPU tweaks. There it shows you what all 4 cores are running a piece in real time. The governor should be on default interactive mode. All you do it put governor on performance mode. Then raise your minimum speed up to the Max. Now your prime will be running at top speeds all the time. Now beware though, expect battery to drain alot faster.
I did that trick with my overclock n can have all 4 cores maxed out to 1.6Ghz at once. Battery drains faster than Asus performance mode though. As far as speeds go though, I can put my prime in stock powersavings mode, lowest power settings, n everything still moves fast n fluid. Same with heavy duty games also. There's nothing out on Android yet to really need overclocking power yet. PRIME handles anything you throw at it in stock settings. OVERCLOCKING is just for kicks really andbto make things that much faster. Not really needed. Overclocking will be better once bootloader unlocked and we get undervolting paired with overclocking. That way we can get great battery life and more power. Nothing wrong with overclocking though. I'd say if you not worried about battery life or gonna eventually be near a powersource, go for it. Android developement section of Prime. Its called VioerControl Mod. Very easy to install n setup. Works great. Everyone rooted should give it a whirl if you looking for more power or want to push the envelope.
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That's how its supposed to be. It doesn't run at top speed full time..lol your battery wouldn't lastlong at all if it did that. It only hit tops speeds when needed. Then it scales back when not needed anymore.
My mistake. I'd forgotten that I'd rebooted since running the benchmarks and gaming, so my CPU Spy values didn't reflect them. I just ran some benchmarks and 1400MHz now shows 18 seconds while 1300MHz now shows 2:08 minutes.
I would still like to see that as running at 1400MHz throughout the benchmarks, so I stand by my statement that some additional tuning is required.
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what Firmware specifically are you guys on????
I just downloaded system tuner... I'm running ICS, and my tablet has been rock solid (not a single reboot).
CPU0 is running around 200-400MHz, and the other 3 cores are offline (although core 1 comes online for a bit now and then.) And, my battery life is excellent.... same or better than it was with HC.
To clarify, those of you who are having reboots, are you all seeing all cores on and maxed out all the time?
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what Firmware specifically are you guys on????
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9.4.2.11
Its the latest one available on ICS.
On the contrary...ever since my tfp decided to keep all cores online and minimum 425mhz speed, I haven't had any lockups or reboots.
But my battery life sucks and my benchmark scores are Still horrible.
The disk I/0 speed is horrendous (as stated in the bonnie++ benchmark thread)
Hope for an update soon
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try this for better disk read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455382
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try this for better disk read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455382
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Has this been confirmed to actually work or be better? Were you the one that made that thread with bonnie benchmarks on disk read speeds or something? How much of a difference are the scores after installing the kernel modules in that thread?
i was wondering if it is possible to overclock on a locked bootloader? i was guessing it won't be because of something with kernels but i just want to be sure.
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i was wondering if it is possible to overclock on a locked bootloader? i was guessing it won't be because of something with kernels but i just want to be sure.
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Overclock on locked Photon's is not possible. The kernel doesn't support it. Unless you need 4G there really isn't much reason to remain locked at this point.
eh...I think i might keep 4g since i get between 4 - 8.5 mbps here compared to 0.3-1 mbps on 3g *shrugs* sucks ahah
I personally don't see why anyone needs that much downspeed on a mobile device. Especially at such an extreme battery hit. But that's just me.
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Overclock on locked Photon's is not possible
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Technically right, but you CAN use SetCPU to lock the phone to max speed whenever the display is on, which on a Photon is practically equivalent to overclocking because Motorola's stock firmware is normally so annyoingly aggressive about slowing down the phone (think: lockscreen sliders that stutter and stall because the stupid phone is only running at 200MHz).
Just make sure that you use SetCPU's profiles feature to set at least two different profiles: one with "performance" governor (or if it's grayed out with 2.3.5, just kick minimum and maximum both up to 1GHz), then create a second profile that kicks in when the phone's display is off and allows it to drop down to 200MHz.
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I personally don't see why anyone needs that much downspeed on a mobile device. Especially at such an extreme battery hit. But that's just me.
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Good point
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Acvice said:
I personally don't see why anyone needs that much downspeed on a mobile device. Especially at such an extreme battery hit. But that's just me.
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Cause people need to run servers off their phones obviously...I enjoy my occasional 4g coverage, but it's never a need I'm on wifi 90% of the time anyway so sprint's 3g though lacking, never gave me any problems, I say to the ones that complain, go pay an arm and a leg elsewhere and free up that bandwidth for me
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[QUOTE=Acvice;I personally don't see why anyone needs that much downspeed on a mobile device. Especially at such an extreme battery hit. But that's just me.
I use my MoPho to stream Netflix and programs off of my Dish DVR in hotels when on the road (3-4 days a week). Most hotel 'free' wifi is pitifully slow so I need the 4G speed and I just plug in the charger as well as the hdmi cable so when I am finished the battery is freshly charged.