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I just posted this in my other thread Information on charging the note, but that thread is really lengthy and I thought this was worth mentioning in its own thread for anyone who might be looking for a good car charger, but doesn't want to read 8 pages of other information.
I had been looking for good one, and started with the motorola charger that I've seen recommended a few times. It's cheap, nicely made, and does have the data pins shorted, but for me, it didn't meet my needs because when using GPS in the car. With the screen on, the phone actually discharged and did not charge. It discharged at about 6% per hour. This is not surprising because when measured, it does not put out the max current that the note can accept (it puts out about 850mA of charging current via my measurements).This charger, on the other hand, puts out the max charging current your note can take (1000mA). I have verified this. When using GPS with the screen on, on my note at least, it actually charges the phone at a rate of ~3%/hour instead of discharging. It will even charge the phone if you are using GPS + screen on + also streaming music (ie pandora). That 150mA difference may not seem like much, but for me, it's the difference between discharging or actually charging the phone while using GPS.
A couple of notes... this charger does not come with a cable, so you'll need a generic usb type a to mirco usb cable. Nothing special is needed in the cable... you can get a "charge only" or a data version, any cable will be fine. Amazon has some very inexpensive ones with low shipping costs if you search. There are two ports on the charger, clearly marked on the charger itself, a 1A port and a 2A port. The 2A port will NOT charge your note at the AC charge rate as the data pins are not shorted -- it will charge at 500mA, and your phone WILL discharge instead of charge if you are using this port with GPS, etc. So ignore the 2A port unless you have an iDevice you want to charge with it. The 1A port, however, WILL charge your note at the AC charge rate, and DOES put out the rated 1A. This is the port you want to be using for your Note.
So, if anyone is looking for a good charger for the car, that's it. The only negative thing I have to say about it (so far) is that it is a little bit wobbly once seated in the cigarette lighter. Not enough to come out or cause any problems or anything, but enough to be annoying (to me). Nothing a little electrical tape (or any tape) can't fix quickly and easily, though, if it bothers you enough.
pj_rage said:
I just posted this in my other thread Information on charging the note, but that thread is really lengthy and I thought this was worth mentioning in its own thread for anyone who might be looking for a good car charger, but doesn't want to read 8 pages of other information.
I had been looking for good one, and started with the motorola charger that I've seen recommended a few times. It's cheap, nicely made, and does have the data pins shorted, but for me, it didn't meet my needs because when using GPS in the car. With the screen on, the phone actually discharged and did not charge. It discharged at about 6% per hour. This is not surprising because when measured, it does not put out the max current that the note can accept (it puts out about 850mA of charging current via my measurements).This charger, on the other hand, puts out the max charging current your note can take (1000mA). I have verified this. When using GPS with the screen on, on my note at least, it actually charges the phone at a rate of ~3%/hour instead of discharging. It will even charge the phone if you are using GPS + screen on + also streaming music (ie pandora). That 150mA difference may not seem like much, but for me, it's the difference between discharging or actually charging the phone while using GPS.
A couple of notes... this charger does not come with a cable, so you'll need a generic usb type a to mirco usb cable. Nothing special is needed in the cable... you can get a "charge only" or a data version, any cable will be fine. Amazon has some very inexpensive ones with low shipping costs if you search. There are two ports on the charger, clearly marked on the charger itself, a 1A port and a 2A port. The 2A port will NOT charge your note at the AC charge rate as the data pins are not shorted -- it will charge at 500mA, and your phone WILL discharge instead of charge if you are using this port with GPS, etc. So ignore the 2A port unless you have an iDevice you want to charge with it. The 1A port, however, WILL charge your note at the AC charge rate, and DOES put out the rated 1A. This is the port you want to be using for your Note.
So, if anyone is looking for a good charger for the car, that's it. The only negative thing I have to say about it (so far) is that it is a little bit wobbly once seated in the cigarette lighter. Not enough to come out or cause any problems or anything, but enough to be annoying (to me). Nothing a little electrical tape (or any tape) can't fix quickly and easily, though, if it bothers you enough.
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i purchased the car dock made specifically for this phone from samsung and it is awesome. phone snaps right into place, dock has a connector built in and comes with a charger. Suction cup has never fell off the window and the whole thing is very sturdy. the note looks awesome mounted in the truck above the in dash navigation and works great with ford sync
Personally I like the Motorola Chargers as they have a nice wound cord, although they only charge one device.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA
khaytsus said:
Personally I like the Motorola Chargers as they have a nice wound cord, although they only charge one device.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA
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That is the other charger I was talking about that is not nearly as good as the one I'm suggesting. With that charger, if you use GPS while the screen is on, your battery will discharge instead of charge. Even without GPS or the screen on, in the best case scenario, it will still charge slower than the one I've recommended. If you're OK with that, then yes I suppose it's an OK charger. It's cheap, looks pretty cool, and seems well built. But for my needs for a charger, I need a) the fastest charger available, and b) for a car charger, I need one that lets me use the GPS on my phone without losing battery life. That's why I searched and found the one I'm recommending.
I personally hate the wound cord because it puts tension on the phone if you try to use it beyond the wound range (which I almost always seem to do), but that's a totally personal preference. The cord is always fighting me when I'm typing on my phone while driving (Not that I do that )
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That is the other charger I was talking about that is not nearly as good as the one I'm suggesting. With that charger, if you use GPS while the screen is on, your battery will discharge instead of charge. Even without GPS or the screen on, in the best case scenario, it will still charge slower than the one I've recommended. If you're OK with that, then yes I suppose it's an OK charger. It's cheap, looks pretty cool, and seems well built. But for my needs for a charger, I need a) the fastest charger available, and b) for a car charger, I need one that lets me use the GPS on my phone without losing battery life. That's why I searched and found the one I'm recommending.
I personally hate the wound cord because it puts tension on the phone if you try to use it beyond the wound range (which I almost always seem to do), but that's a totally personal preference. The cord is always fighting me when I'm typing on my phone while driving (Not that I do that )
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WHAT? Nonsense. First off, the phone is not going to draw more than 1A, and that is a 1A charger. Second, with the big screen on this thing at high power with GPS it's not too surprising if it just maintains its current charge, but in my week of owning my Note I know it does charge while it's on it, and my Nexus One charged on it just fine.
And the cord is very long, not sure where you're plugging your phone in..
OP said he tested the Motorola charger and it only put out 850mA, not 1A. Another poster in a different thread mentioned that his phone still discharged while using that specific car charger as well. So with heavy use it looks like it is possible for the phone to still discharge with the Motorola charger.
Thanks for the info. Had a Verizon car charger for my defunct droid razr and wasn't giving out enough juice to keep the Note running. Heck, it wasn't even able to keep the droid running.
Will look into the ones mentioned here.
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WHAT? Nonsense. First off, the phone is not going to draw more than 1A, and that is a 1A charger. Second, with the big screen on this thing at high power with GPS it's not too surprising if it just maintains its current charge, but in my week of owning my Note I know it does charge while it's on it, and my Nexus One charged on it just fine.
And the cord is very long, not sure where you're plugging your phone in..
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I'm not saying the the phone is drawing more than 1A. I'm saying that the motorola charger does not provide the full 950mA it claims (only provides 850mA), and this one I'm recommeding DOES put out the full 1A it claims. Either way, though, there's one thing I know for sure: the one I've recommended above charges faster than the motorola one, and allows your phone to charge in some scenarios where the motorola one does not. It is a better charger, from the aspect of actually charging the phone. The motorola charger might be fine for a lot of people. 850mA is still a good rate of charge, but unfortunately is just shy of being able to maintain or actually increase the state of charge of your note's battery under a common (for a lot of people) scenario in the car -- using the GPS with the screen on. If, however, the motorola charger is working perfectly for you, that's great. I don't care if you buy the other charger or not, I have no affiliation with the company or amazon or anything, I'm just providing the data so everyone can make an informed decision.
The wound cord thing is totally personal preference, I'm not gonna argue that one way or another.
khaytsus said:
Personally I like the Motorola Chargers as they have a nice wound cord, although they only charge one device.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA
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Yes, I use this one...for making sure my Note is charged whilst using the Note's GPS on my motorcycle.
Works great!!
Since I already have a power inverter I'm going to get the Blackberry Premium 1.8A charger for my note. Even though I carry 2 extra OEM batteries I still need all the power I can get.
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Since I already have a power inverter I'm going to get the Blackberry Premium 1.8A charger for my note. Even though I carry 2 extra OEM batteries I still need all the power I can get.
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Just FYI I cannot confirm that this charger has the data lines shorted, so you may not charge at the full ac charge rate. Just because it says 1.8A doesn't mean anything. If it does not short the data lines, it will charge at 500mA (half the rate of the OEM AC charger), whether it's rated at 1A, 1.8A, or 1,000,000A.. Sorry if you already knew this, I just don't want any more people getting confused thinking that as long as the charger says it's rated at 1A+ that they will be charging at the full 1A. This is not the case with our Notes (or most/all? Samsung phones). No charger can or will charge faster than your OEM charger, unless your OEM charger is defective. The speed can only be matched, not exceeded.
Here's a scenario using the Motorola charger that is baffling me. I agree with the OP...using my Note with GPS and playing mp3 music at the same time does discharge the oem battery at a slow rate. But if I follow the same scenario, but use a cheap Hyperion 2600mah battery in place of the Samsung oem battery, it actually charges during use! Not fast, only about 3% an hour, but that beats a discharge situation! Why is this?
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Great informative post OP! Thanks! I was actually looking into this yesterday and your post is exactly correct. I currently have two Motorola chargers and yup, the Note discharges when using the GPS. I was looking into a new charger and ordered the exact same one you mentioned (in white).
What is surprising to me though is how you mentioned the 2A plug will not output the proper amp, so I have to use the 1A port instead? Do you know why they made it this way? It is just weird how they designed it.
Thanks!
pj_rage said:
I just posted this in my other thread Information on charging the note, but that thread is really lengthy and I thought this was worth mentioning in its own thread for anyone who might be looking for a good car charger, but doesn't want to read 8 pages of other information.
I had been looking for good one, and started with the motorola charger that I've seen recommended a few times. It's cheap, nicely made, and does have the data pins shorted, but for me, it didn't meet my needs because when using GPS in the car. With the screen on, the phone actually discharged and did not charge. It discharged at about 6% per hour. This is not surprising because when measured, it does not put out the max current that the note can accept (it puts out about 850mA of charging current via my measurements).This charger, on the other hand, puts out the max charging current your note can take (1000mA). I have verified this. When using GPS with the screen on, on my note at least, it actually charges the phone at a rate of ~3%/hour instead of discharging. It will even charge the phone if you are using GPS + screen on + also streaming music (ie pandora). That 150mA difference may not seem like much, but for me, it's the difference between discharging or actually charging the phone while using GPS.
A couple of notes... this charger does not come with a cable, so you'll need a generic usb type a to mirco usb cable. Nothing special is needed in the cable... you can get a "charge only" or a data version, any cable will be fine. Amazon has some very inexpensive ones with low shipping costs if you search. There are two ports on the charger, clearly marked on the charger itself, a 1A port and a 2A port. The 2A port will NOT charge your note at the AC charge rate as the data pins are not shorted -- it will charge at 500mA, and your phone WILL discharge instead of charge if you are using this port with GPS, etc. So ignore the 2A port unless you have an iDevice you want to charge with it. The 1A port, however, WILL charge your note at the AC charge rate, and DOES put out the rated 1A. This is the port you want to be using for your Note.
So, if anyone is looking for a good charger for the car, that's it. The only negative thing I have to say about it (so far) is that it is a little bit wobbly once seated in the cigarette lighter. Not enough to come out or cause any problems or anything, but enough to be annoying (to me). Nothing a little electrical tape (or any tape) can't fix quickly and easily, though, if it bothers you enough.
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Just FYI I cannot confirm that this charger has the data lines shorted, so you may not charge at the full ac charge rate. Just because it says 1.8A doesn't mean anything. If it does not short the data lines, it will charge at 500mA (half the rate of the OEM AC charger), whether it's rated at 1A, 1.8A, or 1,000,000A.. Sorry if you already knew this, I just don't want any more people getting confused thinking that as long as the charger says it's rated at 1A+ that they will be charging at the full 1A. This is not the case with our Notes (or most/all? Samsung phones). No charger can or will charge faster than your OEM charger, unless your OEM charger is defective. The speed can only be matched, not exceeded.
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Yes I already know this. I can always return the charger if it does not work properly. Also last night, I tested an OEM HTC charger that came with my older HTC Desire Z and it outputs exactly as the OEM Samsung Note charger. I used your command line in Terminal Emulator.
Got it today. Wow it charges fast.
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OK I was wrong it does not charge faster. It actually allowed my battery to drain at about 1% per 4 minutes, during driving. I DID NOT USE PORT 1A. Will try 1A tomorrow.
the AC charge rate as the data pins are not shorted -- it will charge at 500mA, and your phone WILL discharge instead of charge if you are using this port with GPS, etc. So ignore the 2A port unless you have an iDevice you want to charge with it. The 1A port, however, WILL charge your note at the AC charge rate, and DOES put out the rated 1A. This is the port you want to be using for your Note.
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Not shorted charger
StarLog said:
Got it today. Wow it charges fast.
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What did you get? The motorola one or the Blackberry? Link please.
Thanks for this. Will be ordering the PowerGen. Just got back from a trip to Chicago from Ohio and left with 100% and arrived with 70%. Figured the charger just wasnt putting out enough power.
Now I just need a good adjustable windshield mount that will accept my phone with a case on it!
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I just got this one: http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Lighter-Converter-BlackBerry-Playbook/dp/B004X71HXU
It comes with a adapter that shorts the pins to enable rapid charge.
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Even with GPS running my battery is fully charged when driving to work. I ordered a couple extra adapters from the Satechi website to throw in my laptop bag to rapid charge over the USB 3.0 port and one for my wife's car. Now she can rapid charge her captivate with the high current car charger finally.
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Thanks I just bought this.
kimocal said:
I just got this one: http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Lighter-Converter-BlackBerry-Playbook/dp/B004X71HXU
It comes with a adapter that shorts the pins to enable rapid charge.
Even with GPS running my battery is fully charged when driving to work. I ordered a couple extra adapters from the Satechi website to throw in my laptop bag to rapid charge over the USB 3.0 port and one for my wife's car. Now she can rapid charge her captivate with the high current car charger finally.
Sent magically through the air from the mighty Note!
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What did you get? The motorola one or the Blackberry? Link please.
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Sorry for the delay, I wanted to verify it. Look at previous post, edited.
Not 500ma charger
I've got a 2.1 amp car charger and a cable with the pins crossed. Tablet identifies it as (AC) charging... just tried it out and it dropped a percent even being plugged in.
W-t-f.
Yea the charger that came with it.
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Yea the charger that came with it.
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I need a car charger that will do the same. What does the charger that came with it output? Mine was from cowboom and didn't come with one.
Also - my HP touchpad charger can't keep up either.
All I have it doing is playing slacker radio music and the screen on.
I am just pissed because I've dumped money into this stupid charging issue and now with a 2.1 amp charger AND usb cable meant for charging the flyer still can't charge with it's screen on.
How in the helllll are you supposed to use the gps on a long trip with it.. Starting to think this was a bad purchase.
J3ff said:
I am just pissed because I've dumped money into this stupid charging issue and now with a 2.1 amp charger AND usb cable meant for charging the flyer still can't charge with it's screen on.
How in the helllll are you supposed to use the gps on a long trip with it.. Starting to think this was a bad purchase.
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Starting to think people just whine and cannot hit the search button or take the time to read things we wrote months ago.
The stock charger puts out 9v @ 1.2 amps and has a special HTC charging plug on the Flyer end. No standard USB wall or auto charger in the world does that. Use a 120v inverter with the HTC wall wart for God's sake.
And learn how to use the carefully written content already in the Forums before whining and cursing on the forum. That's what we waste our precious time for, trying you help you helpless creatures.
DigitalMD said:
Starting to think people just whine and cannot hit the search button or take the time to read things we wrote months ago.
The stock charger puts out 9v @ 1.2 amps and has a special HTC charging plug on the Flyer end. No standard USB wall or auto charger in the world does that. Use a 120v inverter with the HTC wall wart for God's sake.
And learn how to use the carefully written content already in the Forums before whining and cursing on the forum. That's what we waste our precious time for, trying you help you helpless creatures.
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I did search this.....however this one post that would have answered my question didn't have the word "charge" or "charging" in its title.... so I missed it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429578
I think HTC has an OEM car charger for like $20-$30.
I agree, it's highly annoying. I was looking yesterday for a right angle cable, but so far, I haven't found one that will still charge this tablet.
freak4dell said:
I think HTC has an OEM car charger for like $20-$30.
I agree, it's highly annoying. I was looking yesterday for a right angle cable, but so far, I haven't found one that will still charge this tablet.
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Yea, I found a site and ordered the OEM cable - I hope it works because if it doesn't.. this thing is going on ebay and I'll find another solution.
I also have been looking for a right angle cable, but now that you MUST use the htc charger and their weird connector, I'm giving up on that.
Please report back your findings.
I run airplane mode and listen to music through bluetooth from my flyer. My standard charger has been keeping it charged but I haven't run GPS tests with the screen on. I'm sure once I start getting into using GPS with the View I'll be looking for a new car charger as well.
You can get the OEM car charger from Sprint.
Sadly, I don't see Best Buy offering any accesories for the Flyer (including spare chargers/car chargers) so I'm probably going to buy a charger or two from Sprint at some point.
DigitalMD said:
Starting to think people just whine and cannot hit the search button or take the time to read things we wrote months ago.
The stock charger puts out 9v @ 1.2 amps and has a special HTC charging plug on the Flyer end. No standard USB wall or auto charger in the world does that. Use a 120v inverter with the HTC wall wart for God's sake.
And learn how to use the carefully written content already in the Forums before whining and cursing on the forum. That's what we waste our precious time for, trying you help you helpless creatures.
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Quick little analysis here...
J3ff said:
I've got a 2.1 amp car charger and a cable with the pins crossed. Tablet identifies it as (AC) charging... just tried it out and it dropped a percent even being plugged in.
W-t-f.
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Fascinating... Now I do agree that it wasn't stated very well, I do have to pause here and laugh at your previous claims. A question is a question. I myself have experienced this issue, I just never thought about posting about it. Learned the hard way that if I want to charge it completely, the screen and all apps have to be off because they consume more power.
But you, my, you are a fascinating spectacle I will never quite understand. It almost seems, and please correct me if I am wrong, that you get a pleasure out of making those you perceive as lesser intelligent feel stupid. Also want to redefine "you" as quite a few people on this forum. Remember that people have to learn from somewhere, so please aid them.
So here is something I would like you to take from this before you apply the ever so interesting label troll to this... statement of recent activities. If someone has a question, even if they haven't researched it, then post a link. Because people like me have the misfortune of Googleing threads like this and I receive comments from people like "you" that make the entire experience unpleasant and a true waste of my time.
I also truly wish someone would sticky this post, because these forums are riddled with people like the previously mentioned.
J3ff said:
Yea, I found a site and ordered the OEM cable - I hope it works because if it doesn't.. this thing is going on ebay and I'll find another solution.
I also have been looking for a right angle cable, but now that you MUST use the htc charger and their weird connector, I'm giving up on that.
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I know how you feel. I think some people have had luck with cutting the cable on the OEM charger and transplanting a regular MicroUSB end, but I just hate the thought of hacking up an expensive OEM charger.
This issue, combined with the crappy support from HTC and the seemingly impossible development of ICS has me strongly considering just getting a different tablet. I bought it primarily to use in the car, but also because of the pen function, but now the pens don't seem to be going back down in price, so I haven't bought one. I just don't like the idea of having to keep pouring into this stupid thing. My plan is to wait it out until Google releases the Nexus tablet, and see how I feel then.
Well, there are several on Amazon. This one is reasonable, but has not yet been rated.
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Extra...Z1NS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1334185304&sr=8-4
stevedebi said:
Well, there are several on Amazon. This one is reasonable, but has not yet been rated.
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Extra...Z1NS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1334185304&sr=8-4
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The pictures show a standard MicroUSB tip, so I'm assuming that's just another generic charger. I hate it when vendors do that...they have that junk on eBay, too. I'm sure it works just fine as a regular charger, but I doubt it will work properly for the View.
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Well, there are several on Amazon. This one is reasonable, but has not yet been rated.
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Extra...Z1NS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1334185304&sr=8-4
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From everything I've read this will NOT allow you to actually charge the battery while you are using the flyer to do anything.
I want FULL brightness, playing music, using the gps... and still being able to charge.
Anything less than that and it's Aidos to the flyer and OEM charger.
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Yea, I found a site and ordered the OEM cable - I hope it works because if it doesn't.. this thing is going on ebay and I'll find another solution.
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Did you only order a OEM cable, or did you order the actual OEM car charger? I ask because I've used the OEM cable with a 2.1A car charger, and it was unable to charge the device while it was in moderate to heavy use. The charging process via a wall outlet is also incredibly slow if you use the OEM cable with a USB wall charger (versus using the OEM charger which is one piece rather than a USB cable that separates from the charger). The actual OEM car charger should a difference since the OEM wall charger does.
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J3ff said:
From everything I've read this will NOT allow you to actually charge the battery while you are using the flyer to do anything.
I want FULL brightness, playing music, using the gps... and still being able to charge.
Anything less than that and it's Aidos to the flyer and OEM charger.
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Well, you're likely to be disappointed I believe, and it's no fault of the View or the chargers. Expecting to be able to have the screen on with full brightness, to be playing music, and to use the GPS all simultaneously is a tall order for absolutely any device. Under those circumstances, any phone or tablet will likely not be able to charge when connected to a vehicle charger. At the absolute best, you might maintain the charge level or lose just a small amount. But to actually increase the charge while doing all of that (especially having the screen on at full brightness continuously) is very, very unlikely with any device or any vehicle charger.
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From everything I've read this will NOT allow you to actually charge the battery while you are using the flyer to do anything.
I want FULL brightness, playing music, using the gps... and still being able to charge.
Anything less than that and it's Aidos to the flyer and OEM charger.
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Where did you read about this charger? The specs indicate it has what is needed for the View to charge.
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Where did you read about this charger? The specs indicate it has what is needed for the View to charge.
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You sure you linked to the right thing? The View's OEM chargers have a 9V output, while normal USB chargers only do 5V. The Amazon link doesn't seem to say anything about voltage as far as I can see.
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Where did you read about this charger? The specs indicate it has what is needed for the View to charge.
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All you have to see is the picture of the standard microUSB tip to know that the charger in the link will not adequately charge the View while under moderate use. HTC uses a modified microUSB port that allows for faster charging of their devices. Standard microUSB cables and chargers can be used with the View, but they don't supply the same level of charge. All the charger in that link would do for the View is charge it very slowly if it wasn't in use at all.
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You sure you linked to the right thing? The View's OEM chargers have a 9V output, while normal USB chargers only do 5V. The Amazon link doesn't seem to say anything about voltage as far as I can see.
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You may be right there. There are some others that looked like they had the special htc end. One was $28.
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I'm looking for an external battery charger (preferably solar powered) for taking my Note on backpacking trips. Unfortunately, most of the solar packs that I've found have only .5 - .7 amps available for USB output. If I'm using a 1amp charging cable (with the data leads shorted), will .7 amps kick in the AC charging speed? Is .5 amps enough to charge the phone while I sleep for 7 hours?
I suppose it depends on how long you are out without power but another alternative is an external battery that allows you to charge your phone by plugging it into the external battery.
This one here (at $75 USD) will let you charge the Note from completely dead to a full complete charge 4.4 times.
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP...Z64Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336084828&sr=8-2
So, if you started your backpacking with a full charge on both the phone and the battery pack, and assuming you charge the phone every night at say 20% battery left, you should get 6 days. If you need more than that, you can just buy a second battery pack (personally, Id want to have two just in case).
That's a good suggestion from littlewierdo. I would also have at least 2 spare batteries for the note. I don't think that .5 amps is enough.
Budge said:
I'm looking for an external battery charger (preferably solar powered) for taking my Note on backpacking trips. Unfortunately, most of the solar packs that I've found have only .5 - .7 amps available for USB output. If I'm using a 1amp charging cable (with the data leads shorted), will .7 amps kick in the AC charging speed? Is .5 amps enough to charge the phone while I sleep for 7 hours?
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Budge I had an HTC evo 4g and got a 5400mah battery. This worked ok. However the output is .5a which will not charge the note if you are using maps with gps or bluetooth or playing tunes. It wil charge when not using those. Say at night when you are asleep. I think you would have to find a battery with output better than 1a to actually charge when you are actively using your phone. I am not sure of the actual output you would need. I will research it though for my own needs. I do use my note on my motorcyle with a charger which outputs .5a and this is nowhere near what is needed to use google maps and bluetooth and play tunes.
I am actively looking for a solution which will charge my note while using google maps, bluetooth, and playing tunes etc. I may have found a solution with a usb y cable which is connected a 2a source and a .5a source on my motorcycle.
The only solution for backpacking may be to charge when not using the note. I am fairly sure it will charge at .5a when sleeping.
Good luck.
kimtyson said:
That's a good suggestion from littlewierdo. I would also have at least 2 spare batteries for the note. I don't think that .5 amps is enough.
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imesg said:
I am actively looking for a solution which will charge my note while using google maps, bluetooth, and playing tunes etc. I may have found a solution with a usb y cable which is connected a 2a source and a .5a source on my motorcycle.
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Im not sure where you got the .5 amps from, it outputs 1 amp, so it will charge the Note with the screen on. However, it wont charge quite as fast as the wall charger will it will actually charge the phone.
It should be able to handle keeping the screen on, bluetooth doesnt use much power at all so playing music shouldnt be an issue and gps uses very little battery as well. I dont see an issue with it.
Admittedly, I dont have one of these, dont really have much of a use for one at the moment but I cant possibly see any issues with this.
HOWEVER, there are alternative external battery packs that are MUCH cheaper with less mah capacity (meaning, in simple speak, you would get less power storage meaning that you wouldnt be able to charge your phone as many times as you might like). There are other USB battery packs that might also have less power output (or more) which might mean that you wouldnt be able to keep the screen on AND charge the phone.
Truth be told, I only looked for the highest capacity battery pack given what your situation was AND I tend to buy higher end if the price makes sense. In the case of battery packs similar to this design (external usb battery packs), they generally start at $30 and go to about $80 so buying the best possible makes sense. However, if the highest/best possible was $200, Id probably get something cheaper, but since its only ~$80, if I were in your shoes, that would be my choice.
Id probably consider getting two of them (that is, if we are talking about longer than 1 week excursions, if under a week, just get 1) and a decently long usb cable (3-4 ft) but not too long (you dont want to be tripping over the cable but you need it long enough that if you need to, you can charge the phone mid-day while hiking).
You dont need multiple batteries for the Note, the whole point of this external battery pack is to eliminate the need for them.
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Im not sure where you got the .5 amps from, it outputs 1 amp, so it will charge the Note with the screen on. However, it wont charge quite as fast as the wall charger will it will actually charge the phone.
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littlewierdo I was not necessarily speaking of the device you suggested but one I had. I was warning Budge to be careful and not get a device which outputs only .5a. I was suggesting that he find one which will put out 2a if such exists. The device which you suggested will put out 1a. However I don't believe this would be enough for my purposes and maybe no Budge's either. i was not refering to your device or you. Not my intent to get in an argument with you but to help Budge find a suitable solution.
link to imp1000 manual:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sg=AFQjCNFPt8XfUpeSr8olPnKLYCivrRvqFg&cad=rja
Couldn't make the link post as a link. Do a search for 'imp1000 manual'.
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Littlewierdo- I didn't disagree with your suggestion to use another battery pack to charge the existing battery. In fact, I have one and use that option myself. I was adding that it may be a good idea to have a spare. I was responding to the OP who mentioned .5 amps. I assume that's where imesg was coming from, too.
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
I'm using old charges at home and in the office and it did seems slow but had not heard of rapid charge. Will the phone indicate this rapid charge mode? If not, is it real?
I'm getting slow charging even on the stock HTC charger. Not sure how I can enable this rapid charge cause 4+ hours from 0-1% to full is a bit ridiculous.
use orginal charger is best , maybe it has some relationship with your battery life
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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flooty333 said:
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
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c5satellite2 said:
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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i've done exactly this, and damned if the One still refuses to draw more than ~500 ma off of anything but the 2.1 A wallwart it came with (i don't have any others to try with). i'm about to dig out an old inverter to see if that will actually work. wish i'd paid more attention to my EE dad when i lived at home; i've gotten a serious crash course in this stuff while trying to get my One to charge in my car, when it's on.
edit: so i got my old inverter out, and spent about 15 minutes testing. i used the 2.0A adapter that came with my Nexus 7 to test, as well as the 3.1A Mediabridge adapter i got here. my phone was at about 45% when i started testing. unplugged, Battery Monitor Widget reported a drain of anywhere between 500ma and 650ma (running Ingress, wifi on). plugged in to the Mediabridge adapter showed, at best, a drain of 50ma. the Nexus adapter plugged in to my inverter charged at a fairly consistent ~120ma. i didn't touch my phone the entire time.
i left my Nexus 7 at work so i can't use it to repeat the test, but i will do so tomorrow. the cable i'm using is this one. i'm not crazy about having a ridiculous DC-AC inverter in my car for my phone, but if that's what i have to do so it can be used and not drain, then so be it. admittedly, i don't really understand these things enough to explain these variations, but i plan on learning ASAP. perhaps somebody else can shed some light on why the device charges different, and how it identifies an AC-USB adapter vs a DC-USB adapter.
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If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
nest75068 said:
Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
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Same here, 2a Nexus 7 brick with a long Logitech USB cable, much faster than stock (and longer)
Harbinger1080 said:
Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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My next car will too, because I can only imagine that power requirements for these devices is going to increase.
That said, I think I have a winner, and instead of retyping my posts, I'll just link to that thread instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41797839&postcount=6
Since the snap Dragon 600 has fast charging capabilities, why didn't HTC Include it in the kernel??? I've noticed my 2500 mAh note battery charges faster than my 2300 MAH HTC one
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To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the LG G6 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I have used the charger that came with it (since it was the only USB-C cable I had at the time) and it charged amazingly fast. I bought a Wireless charger as well which is also amazingly fast. It's my first wireless charging experience and I was told it trickle charges so it would be much slower than charging from the cable, but I barely notice a difference in speed at all. I keep checking the phone what seems like every couple of minutes if not seconds and the % has increased by a lot more than I would have imagined. I thought wireless charging to be pointless and a who-cares ordeal, but not that I have experienced it... I don't think I will go back to a device without it (not for a phone at least). I'm not sure if any health issues can be there from radiation, but I'm almost dead anyway (well... I have about 50 years to go I guess) so I don't really care, lol.
For those wondering, I went with the CHOETECH Qi Model T513 wireless charger. Input: DC5V/2A (Max) Output: 7.5W which I purchased from Amazon for only $19.95. That was 50% off at the time I purchased it, but that was only a few days ago so you might want to check on it.
Really? I feel my g6 charges way slower then my S7 edge. I still have it but I'm gonna test this tomorrow.
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chinchillables said:
I have used the charger that came with it (since it was the only USB-C cable I had at the time) and it charged amazingly fast. I bought a Wireless charger as well which is also amazingly fast. It's my first wireless charging experience and I was told it trickle charges so it would be much slower than charging from the cable, but I barely notice a difference in speed at all. I keep checking the phone what seems like every couple of minutes if not seconds and the % has increased by a lot more than I would have imagined. I thought wireless charging to be pointless and a who-cares ordeal, but not that I have experienced it... I don't think I will go back to a device without it (not for a phone at least). I'm not sure if any health issues can be there from radiation, but I'm almost dead anyway (well... I have about 50 years to go I guess) so I don't really care, lol.
For those wondering, I went with the CHOETECH Qi Model T513 wireless charger. Input: DC5V/2A (Max) Output: 7.5W which I purchased from Amazon for only $19.95. That was 50% off at the time I purchased it, but that was only a few days ago so you might want to check on it.
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Really? I feel my g6 charges way slower then my S7 edge. I still have it but I'm gonna test this tomorrow.
Went and picked up this bad boy today. LS variant. Out of the box, had 41%. Using my car charger Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0(yes 2.0) and the included USB C, it charged to 70% in the 20 minute drive back to my house. For using the old QC tech, still charged amazingly fast. I have a QC3.0 39W wall charger that got delivered this afternoon. Will wait til this baby dies and charge her up with that and will report back.
Ive noticed when using a QC 3.0 charger and cable doesnt seem like the g6 is actually charging faster. Its suppose to support QC but its not.
I'm finding this charges a lot slower than my S7 Edge as well. Using the provided cable and charger it takes about 2.5 hours to go from 5% to full which is generally fine, but there isn't a burst and then trickle. I appreciated being able to plug my phone in for a short time when it was low and top it up enough to go out and not worry about it dying. Can't really do that with this one.
I had a power brick laying around and says qualcomm 2.0 and it charge`s really fast, like 1% of battery every min. , but yes with the stock charger brick takes forever to charge.
Using a Xiaomi USB C charger (45W) which supports both UPD 2.0 and QC 3.0, my phone charged very fast.
Mine charges super fast with the supplied charger. I plugged in with 11% yesterday and hit 50% in like 25 minutes.
quick charging is convenient and all, but is there a way to revert to normal charging? I don't want to accelerate my cycles. Thanks.
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quick charging is convenient and all, but is there a way to revert to normal charging? I don't want to accelerate my cycles. Thanks.
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Use a non-QC charger.
thanks. I'll do that, I have to get extra cables anyway. Although I was wondering if there was a way to hack it phone-wise.
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sharoon01 said:
I'm finding this charges a lot slower than my S7 Edge as well. Using the provided cable and charger it takes about 2.5 hours to go from 5% to full which is generally fine, but there isn't a burst and then trickle. I appreciated being able to plug my phone in for a short time when it was low and top it up enough to go out and not worry about it dying. Can't really do that with this one.
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the charger that comes with the device doesn't support QC3, it's a QC2 charger.
so, getting a QC3 charger would defiantly decrease the charging time :good:
abdullahziad said:
the charger that comes with the device doesn't support QC3, it's a QC2 charger.
so, getting a QC3 charger would defiantly decrease the charging time :good:
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I'm pretty sure the supplies charger is QC3.
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I'm pretty sure the supplies charger is QC3.
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Silly question - is there an easy way to tell if a charger is QC2 or QC3?
sharoon01 said:
Silly question - is there an easy way to tell if a charger is QC2 or QC3?
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Look to the charger specification, if it supports only 5v and 9v then is QC2. QC3 scales on various voltage between 5 and 12 volts.
And yes, the provided charger is QC2, probably the same Found with the G5.
Yeah I take back what I said. The supplied charger does appear to "only" be QC 3. It still seems faster then QC2 though. Maybe it's just in my head. It works for my needs though, I can get almost 50% in like 20.
Charge in airplane mode when you can. When you have no worries of anyone calling or texting. With wifi off as well you'll see a decent jump in fast charging.
purchased by phone a couple of days back and it charged from 5% to 100% in approx 1.40 mins with the stock QC 2.0. I'm damn impressed....
Let me Ask y'all something. Coming from a LG G4 and just Charging My Batteries by a OEM Battery Charger I got 2HRs More of SOT. When I charge via the USB Quick Charger I got the same 3HRs as usual. So I got 5 while charging Slower then the SO-Called Quick Charging. To my understanding Batteries are meant to Slow-Charge rather then Fast