We have seen tons and tons of modding of Sense 3.0 but honestly speaking these are more "Thematic Mods" than real Mods. Yes we have blue, red, pink and you name it and you get it colours available for lockscreen, rings, clocks, statusbar and you name it and you get it graphical items.
Most of you will agree these are skin changes and not real mods. Most android launchers these days have features we would love to see in our dearmost SENSE launcher, but as yet, we have not crossed that mod level. Back in the WM6.5 days, we had a super application called co0kies Home tab and most old folks would agree with me that this app rocked. Today that kind of sense modding is over UNLESS we flash a new ROM.
Is the sense Modding a DEAD END or is ROM development the only choice????
With this thread lets highlight and point to some of our incredible developers that we would love to have the following features and real mods in our dear sense package NATIVELY via tweak or apps.
Ability to hide status bar like in all other launchers merely by a gesture.
Ability to add delete number of homescreen pages WITHOUT ROM flashing.
Ability to lock / hide the Notificatios tab besdies the "Quick Settings" tab in the new Sense status bar.
Ability to change icons and their names as in all other launchers.
Ability to sort apps and hide apps from Ap drawer.
Ability to auto hide the Sense ARC at the bottom of the screen much like the Windows taskbar on pc.
Ability to change grid size in respect of coloumns and rows. Also very much achievable in almost all launchers.
The ability to change widget sizes as available in Go launcher and others.
3D rendering of weather on lockscreen. It would be nice to have EYE POPPING weather animations on lockscreen suing full 3d capabilities. I can do the 3D Rendering if any dev is interested in development
Please post simlar sense 3.0 mods you would like to have natively in sense 3.0 launcher and lets catch the interest of developers.
I think one highly desirable mod is workspace size, 5x5, 5x6..etc.. I've been working on it for a while with not much success..
I always seem to run into problems with recompiling Rosie. If I decompile a Rosie.apk with dependencies, then try to immediately recompile, the size is always significantly different (~1.8mb vs ~12mb). I've went ahead and made changes to some of the xml files within, but the size is always way off when it is recompiled...if it gets that far and doesn't throw an error...
It would be awesome if a more experienced dev could take this on or offer some guidance..
I think we all can agree 4x4 sucks on a qHD screen.
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updated the first post with it.
Also added the 3d weather animation lockscreen. I can do the rendering of 3d if any dev is interested.
LETS KEEP SENSE ALIVE
Sounds good have you anything ready for testing?
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I totally agre. Im getting tired of using sense and not being able to change certain aspects of it that should have been changable from the get go. Sense is gret but it needs to be greter" so im sure that some other devs here that have the awesome knowledge will soon begin to consider these things. I am willing to donate for this type of work when the project begins. This is a great convo starter and im glad someone has came to point this out.
The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
SilverSuperman said:
I totally agre. Im getting tired of using sense and not being able to change certain aspects of it that should have been changable from the get go. Sense is gret but it needs to be greter" so im sure that some other devs here that have the awesome knowledge will soon begin to consider these things. I am willing to donate for this type of work when the project begins. This is a great convo starter and im glad someone has came to point this out.
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Yess. We can see different ROMS exploring different things. But at the same time we see different launchers providing functionalities which are awesome.
SENSE 3.0 as a launcher is dying out. We have themes for sense and that is all. Launcher functionality is Sense is limited. We had an excellent program called co0kies hometab for WM 6.5 and it allowed all types of customizations. However, most people today feel easy to download an alternative launcher over sense 3.0.
Lets keep this launcher alive.
pamplinas said:
The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
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Its possible in Go launcher. I have already added it to the top post.
pamplinas said:
The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
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I think it is possible, it was done on older versions of Sense..The widgets size themselves according to the layout size. You can't resize them on demand tho.
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Its odd how sense 3.0 has an edit button when u long press on an icon or widget but u cant always use it and that grinds my gears because i feel it being mostly pointless of it being there. I hope it changes to have better functionality instead of a ui change like in the supposedly leaked sense 3.5. What a nightmare that is. Lol
I would like the rgb color widget that's in cyanagen mod so you can make your phone just one color like blue or green or red. Also if some can find me some pngs of the death star rotating I will make a star wars themed lock screen
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mayfield103 said:
I would like the rgb color widget that's in cyanagen mod so you can make your phone just one color like blue or green or red. Also if some can find me some pngs of the death star rotating I will make a star wars themed lock screen
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This app I found on the market can provide the color rendering screen effect. Here's a link to the free/demo version, the full is $0.99
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Just tested Go launcher. Apart from htc widgets, all wallpapers and live wallpapers from HTC including weather and htc hub is accessible from the GO launcher.
Plus HTC lock screen is also there with weather.
I wish OUR SENSE has these features.
yahya.hamid said:
Back in the WM6.5 days, we had a super application called co0kies Home tab and most old folks would agree with me that this app rocked. Today that kind of sense modding is over UNLESS we flash a new ROM.
Is the sense Modding a DEAD END or is ROM development the only choice????
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"Old folks" ? LOL Dude... the cookie home tab mod was release almost a year ago in November (for the 2.0 ver). That's not THAT long ago.. LOL
Development for Rosie is not going too far because we don't have a cookiemonster equivalent in the Android world. All real modding is done in smali and I only know of ONE guy that can do serious modding to it.. RomanBB.
Unless we get someone like cookiemonster, Sense modding will never take off.
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"Old folks" ? LOL Dude... the cookie home tab mod was release almost a year ago in November (for the 2.0 ver). That's not THAT long ago.. LOL
Development for Rosie is not going too far because we don't have a cookiemonster equivalent in the Android world. All real modding is done in smali and I only know of ONE guy that can do serious modding to it.. RomanBB.
Unless we get someone like cookiemonster, Sense modding will never take off.
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^^^
whoa. energy you got a 3D ???!!!
/me prays for cookies
No.... I got a Sensation. But I also have a ROM ready for the 3D Just need some good testers...
sign me up as a beta.
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No.... I got a Sensation. But I also have a ROM ready for the 3D Just need some good testers...
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HOLY CRAP...You are bringing back memories of my WinMo days
I am up for beta testing as well!! I ran your ROMs on my TP2...
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BTW, OP...nobody messes with Sense since it's so much easier to just drop Launcher, Luancher Pro, ADW, etc in the ROM, instead.
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Well, I don't know about the rest of you but I enjoy the functionality of MySense in certain respects. My dislikes are not enough to get me to jump to an alternative launcher but they are enough to make me want changes.
In my eyes.... two things will make Espresso aesthetically pleasing and more functional. The first being redirecting/replacing the My Faves with Browser or messenger. And the second... changing the drawer icon to the FROYO blocks icon.
Now, I don't have a full grasp on what would be involved in doing so, but common sense or my lack of understanding perhaps tell me those 2 icons and the 1 remapping can't be too involved. To anyone out there ready and willing to take this on... I will volunteer to be the guinea pig for testing. Me and Nandroid are best friends.
Looking forward to it.
you forgot your recent app's thing lol or did you find that one?
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you forgot your recent app's thing lol or did you find that one?
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Lol, not forgotten... that is still on my list in the quest of a perfect MT4G. I am going to make that one my personal project. I figured it is in my best interest to enlist some "qualified" help for the Espresso Project.
lol the things you mentioned above are my exact problems with the stock launcher as well everything else i like as of lately ive jus been using a combination of iced glacier and ADW to get sumthing almost similar to wat you discribed but in all i would love to see an actual rom that benifits both i too will be a tester for anyone who decides to take on this project and good luck
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lol the things you mentioned above are my exact problems with the stock launcher as well everything else i like as of lately ive jus been using a combination of iced glacier and ADW to get sumthing almost similar to wat you discribed but in all i would love to see an actual rom that benifits both i too will be a tester for anyone who decides to take on this project and good luck
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ADW is a nice launcher. I just hate losing the MySense features by doing so....
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ADW is a nice launcher. I just hate losing the MySense features by doing so....
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i agree ADW doesnt have any real widgets so it does put u at a loss. if sumone could successfully merge the two launchers and have the benifits of both we would have a fricken great rom for this phone. i tried to flash the apks from the glacier rom onto the ADW launcher but it freezes the homescreen i cant get the widgets to successfully adapt to the ADW protocols which puts me back to sqaure one lol
what is root?
I turned my phone on and now the screen glows???? wtf your rom borkded it.... can I abd push ota or does the motherboard need fixing???? thanx in advance
teamsilence said:
I turned my phone on and now the screen glows???? wtf your rom borkded it.... can I abd push ota or does the motherboard need fixing???? thanx in advance
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Motherboard for sure... I will PM you my address. Sent me your phone and I will fix it when I get a chance.
-iced glacier,
-adw
-pure calendar widget
-stock twitter app & widget
-simiclock (has weather now)
-quick settings for the best customizable power and brightness controls and can be launched from tapping simiclock when set up that way, also can be added to status bar
-circle battery (just looks cool and clean)
All of this together makes me very pleased with this phone. I have test out sooooo many different apps for these functions and various roms on other phones.. just my taste and opinion.. but give them a try if you havent.
Is there a way to change the right side dock button? I'd much rather it go to text messages than the "Personalize" screen....anyone know how to change it?
Blah! HTC Sense... I am disgusted with it as well.
Best bet would probably be getting a third-party launcher (Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher).
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Blah! HTC Sense... I am disgusted with it as well.
Best bet would probably be getting a third-party launcher (Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher).
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I'm a Launcher Pro junkie. Love it. Sense on the other hand is definitely a love/hate thing for me. Some of its features are really slick, but many of them just get in the way. I too would like to change that personalize button. Need to look into it more closely.
It won't matter...once a CM7 gingerbread build comes out for this thing, I'm there and goodbye Sense.
Agreed. Once CM7 is ported and I have my TB rooted... there is no turning back to this bloated, stock, Sense 2.2 garbage.
I've always loved LauncherPro. I have the Plus version. But this is my first HTC phone, so I'm using it stock for a bit first just to get a taste of what Sense is all about for a while.
I don't mind it too much. Runs smooth, but has so much bloatware attached to it.
If I could customize the dock buttons around and hide icons in the app tray, I think I'd be fine with Sense.
I have seen this done in some roms but I am pretty sure you have no shot without root. I think I had it in Mikfroyo but it was called modified Rosie or Rosie Options. Something like that.
Btw...mikfroyo is an EVO from under the Evo Dev section
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New sense is nice actually. I like it so far...better than sense 2.0..
Ive been looking through peoples themes and what not and Im curious as how to change icons and screens, is it a skin or is it the rom or what? Just for example i like how some people have the circle battery instead of the battery icon and things like that, if someone could help me out id appreciate it alot. Thanks in advance
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Ive been looking through peoples themes and what not and Im curious as how to change icons and screens, is it a skin or is it the rom or what? Just for example i like how some people have the circle battery instead of the battery icon and things like that, if someone could help me out id appreciate it alot. Thanks in advance
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Things like the circle battery and anything on the taskbar are either going to be part of a rom or a theme. You can do them individually yourself but you would have to do some research on theming. You also need to be rooted with s-off. If you like a more stock look rather than sense launchers like launcher pro from the market offer a lot of themes and icon packs that can be installed with or without root.
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Things like the circle battery and anything on the taskbar are either going to be part of a rom or a theme. You can do them individually yourself but you would have to do some research on theming. You also need to be rooted with s-off. If you like a more stock look rather than sense launchers like launcher pro from the market offer a lot of themes and icon packs that can be installed with or without root.
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Im currently rooted S-Off running Bamf 3.0 Sence RC4.9 what exactly are launchers? Sorry just trying to figure out what everything is...
A launcher is what runs the whole user interface. Home screens, dockbars, icons, and shortcuts. HTC phones comes with sense. (except the g1, g2, and nexus 1) Sense is actually more than just the launcher its a while UI overlay. Sense's launcher is really called rosie but that's not really important here unless you are planing on learning to theme. If you look in the market there are launchers like Launcher Pro, ADW, and their variants plus many more. Just search launchers and try one out. When you press your home button it will let you choose sense or whichever other launcher you have installed. If you try one just read the instructions and play around with it. Plus search the market for themes built for the launcher you d/l. (for example...search ADW themes in the market) Everything on your sense screens will remain the same. If you want to stick with sense 3.0 that comes with BAMF 3.0 try some BAMF themes. I would check out rootzwiki or teambamf.net. I doubt you will find them here.
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I'm running th3ory now.... not sure what version I think its the newest one out
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Ok I'm tired of the sense 3.0 original look so I'm getting a launcher! I love the sense Widgets tho, WHICH LAUNCHER ALLOWS USE OF ORIGINAL SENSE WIDGETS? I watched a video of adw & it looked like the guy was using original widgets! His sense clock even scrolled like its supposed to
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KaoMinerva said:
Ok I'm tired of the sense 3.0 original look so I'm getting a launcher! I love the sense Widgets tho, WHICH LAUNCHER ALLOWS USE OF ORIGINAL SENSE WIDGETS? I watched a video of adw & it looked like the guy was using original widgets! His sense clock even scrolled like its supposed to
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As a devleoper, I can share a developer's spin on the issue.
As far as I've seen and heard, Sense widgets rely on specific HTC framework files which are all closed sourced and essentially owned by HTC, not to be used by 3rd parties w/o permission from HTC.
With that aside, there is nothing stopping others from duplicating the look/feel/functionality of sense widgets and putting them in the Market. Haven't heard anything of HTC seeking legal recourse from "look a like" widgets, etc.
If you saw something you liked, which seemed to offer everything you were looking for from a Sense widget, I would suggest going after that alternative, until HTC releases their code for public use.
I personally wouldn't count on HTC releasing their Sense launcher/framework/widget code for public use anytime soon.
Hope that helps clarify!
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As a devleoper, I can share a developer's spin on the issue.
As far as I've seen and heard, Sense widgets rely on specific HTC framework files which are all closed sourced and essentially owned by HTC, not to be used by 3rd parties w/o permission from HTC.
With that aside, there is nothing stopping others from duplicating the look/feel/functionality of sense widgets and putting them in the Market. Haven't heard anything of HTC seeking legal recourse from "look a like" widgets, etc.
If you saw something you liked, which seemed to offer everything you were looking for from a Sense widget, I would suggest going after that alternative, until HTC releases their code for public use.
I personally wouldn't count on HTC releasing their Sense launcher/framework/widget code for public use anytime soon.
Hope that helps clarify!
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Thanks so much for the reply! Do you think fancy Widgets is the best alternative then?
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For the clock I think beautiful Widgets or HD Widgets are the best. I use launcher pro plus with launcher pro glass sense skin for the bookmark, friendstream and calendar Widgets and they're almost exact.
I just started using Pro Launcher Plus a few days ago. I was a bit reluctant to because I really like the Sense Widgets. But I found the same Sense widgets for Pro Launcher plus and with a few other modifications like mclock, minimalist text and simple text, I've been able to customize a pretty cool "sense like" theme that' even cooler than the original Sense 3.0 that I was running.
Does it have the scrolling sense clock!? I mean, I have used it on evo 3d but seriously bro LPP needs an update bad
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While fooling around trying out different launchers, i have found a real gem.
GT Launcher Prime
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.launcher.GTlauncher2&hl=en
XDA Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2238353
Incredibly you can use Sense widgets and Lockscreen with it !!! Iam currently using it with Sense5 port
All credit goes to creator of the app. Iam just posting it.
Hit THANKS button if i helped
Thanks for sharing but I am unable to see sense widgets through this launcher
kancherlapraneeth said:
Thanks for sharing but I am unable to see sense widgets through this launcher
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From your sign. it seems that u r stuck on 2.04 firmware
I havent tried it on Sense4+ rom. So cant really comment.
Iam s-off, bootloader unlocked . I used it on sense5 port of letschy with latest m7 firmware 1.29.**.13
btw, nice to see another indian with DNA :highfive:
Yes :'( . Nice to see you too
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It's a cool launcher but if you disable the persistent search bar, you can't drag anything to the top of the screen.
That blows.
It's alright, but missing a lot of features that Nova and Apex have so I won't be able to use it. I can't get the Sense widgets sized appropriately to where they are not stretched or having elements overlapping despite messing with the row/column settings. Other things like not being able to change the app drawer icon, and so forth are a bother.
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It's alright, but missing a lot of features that Nova and Apex have so I won't be able to use it. I can't get the Sense widgets sized appropriately to where they are not stretched or having elements overlapping despite messing with the row/column settings. Other things like not being able to change the app drawer icon, and so forth are a bother.
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U can resize the widgets.
Icon packs for nova/apex can be used as well.
There r some niggling issues with this launcher, however if you want to use sense widgets and not sense launcher then it your only choice.
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Tried it. Hated it.
Alignment was off on text and icons on adjacent screen, it kept reverting to default screen setup after arranging it with my setup, saw some screen redraw, and weather widget text and graphics were way out of line.
If these were fixed, i'd maybe try it again.