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In all the Froyo roms currently out here, I have this same problem:
Any random time I check Advanced Task Killer, I'll see 12-15+ apps in the list that are open, that I didn't even open. Sucking my battery, memory and will to live.
Anyone else have this problem? Why do they keep coming on?
This has been addressed elsewhere I believe, so look for that. If you are rooted, you can download AutoKiller and set it to Optimum or Strict and your system will auto-kill background apps as memory fills up.
Let them run, it is fine. If you uninstall that darn task killer you'll never even know that they're running.
Should be in general or q&a
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listyb01 said:
Let them run, it is fine. If you uninstall that darn task killer you'll never even know that they're running.
Should be in general or q&a
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The strange thing is that they don't show up continuously running in something like xtrSense or PlainJain, which is what I find weird.
I have the same problem
when I updated from kaosfroyo 29 to 30, my battery life decreased greatly. And the battery life would remind me that they were running.
jessebwallace said:
The strange thing is that they don't show up continuously running in something like xtrSense or PlainJain, which is what I find weird.
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As an fyi they would not show up in xtrSENSE as I have set the default min memory free to a level for the ROM as if you are using a strict or higher value in autokiller
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what ive noticed through my experience with 2.2 vs. 2.1 roms, froyo manages these apps in the background a lot better than 2.1 does. i used advanced task killer religiously while on 2.1, but noticed that when i switched over to froyo it ran just as smooth, if not more smooth than before. so now i just dont even bother with ATK, and let froyo/autokiller do their thing. im also noticing, even in the absence of ATK, i am getting much better battery life with 2.2 than i did with 2.1.
just my two cents.
EDIT: should have said i was on kaosfroyo. dont have experience on others.
Hi All,
I came across a few articles online that suggest that the task managers/killers actually do more harm than good. As far as I know, the Android OS is pretty good at multitasking and managing apps when it is needed to free RAM/CPU.
Would like to hear input specifically regarding the X10 and how these apps affect the system and/or phone specially after the 2.1 update?
Thanks!
Well aince I got to 2.1 Ive havent found the need to download a task killer. Its been stable with 100-140mb constant no matter how many apps I open. But in 1.6 I was getting 20mb if I didnt use task killer lol im guessing the need for task killer as the os upgrades gets less and less as 2.2 really gets ****ed by it lol
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I've read online about how closing some apps such as mediascape will affect your other media applications cos these services are tied together. But I've always killed all of the ones I don't see myself needing in the next hour or so, and nothing's ever really crashed for me heh.
But I do make it a point to close all apps before running quadrant. Very very pleased with my 730 score
som3noob said:
Well aince I got to 2.1 Ive havent found the need to download a task killer. Its been stable with 100-140mb constant no matter how many apps I open. But in 1.6 I was getting 20mb if I didnt use task killer lol im guessing the need for task killer as the os upgrades gets less and less as 2.2 really gets ****ed by it lol
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Dumb question, how do you check the RAM?
Best get something like autokiller memory optimizer.
You generally don't need much ram free and if you don't use apps that will eat the hell out of your system in the bg then there's no problem at all.
I haven't used a task killer since switching to 2.1 and there's no performance problems.
I still facing ram problem even after upgrade 2.1, hope no need any task killer anymore once we get 2.2
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gaolinde said:
I still facing ram problem even after upgrade 2.1, hope no need any task killer anymore once we get 2.2
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Not sure if the X10 will get 2.2. Looks like 2.1 is the end of the road for us.
By automatism, after I updated to 2.1 I installed advanced task killer, and at one point I noticed that, whean I had killed apps ammount of free RAM decereased ? So at that point, I uninstalled task killer to check will I notice any change in performance, and there was NONE I could notice, together with same battery duration.
So, so far I vote for no task killers.
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Not sure if the X10 will get 2.2. Looks like 2.1 is the end of the road for us.
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come on we have 2.2 custom rom on the way.
and good new is i just tested the custom room it appeared froyo managed ram really well, i launched a ton of software and still having more than 100mb of free ram.
gaolinde said:
come on we have 2.2 custom rom on the way.
and good new is i just tested the custom room it appeared froyo managed ram really well, i launched a ton of software and still having more than 100mb of free ram.
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Yeah I know we have custom ROMs. I was referring to the official update from SE. I know we will get the UXP update sometime in the future but, not sure if they will go as far as releasing a 2.2 update for the X10?
I don't use it anymore since on 2.1, when using it on 2.1 there's a lot of glitches and it DOES do more harm than good. I get better overall performance without it.
I use it, facebook, skype start by themselves and drain my battery
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I use it, facebook, skype start by themselves and drain my battery
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Yes but, according to Android developers, 2.1 automatically closes these idle programs to prevent that. They claim that android is capable of handling this and that any task manger apps are useless.
Read this article http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
Since upgrade to 2.1, I installed Task Killer. It cleaned my memory to have available mem from 80MB to 150MB. However, it got some weired behaviour such as
- X10 got lag for a moment when the screen is just back on.
- when the screen is just back on, Wifi cannot reconnect. I have to disable and enable it again.
So I read to post of Android multitasking and I try it by disable AutoKill but keep the widget on the sceen to see the available mem.
My mem keep available around 70-80MB and X10 performance is increase. No more lag or have to re-enable wifi after screen is back on.
I already remove Taskkiller but installed Watchdog instead. Because there are some bad coding software out there which comsume the battery and CPU even you've exited. In such a case, I have to kill those apps manually.
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X10i Generic Android 2.1, rooted, JIT enable.
You want the memory to be as full as possible!!! This means that those often used tasks are there, waiting. This is not Windows! Stop forcing Android to reload everything from scratch! No wonder things are lagging for you.
I've done many experiment about it.
Here's few conclusion, everything you guys claims are all true.
Android is nix base, fulfilling ram mean more cache, more speed.
However, more process mean more CPU usage in some service.
Some softwares are not properly coded, it, unfortunately, doesn't release the resource when it exits
And it's also true that force killing it, will eat more battery because without properly closing, it will eventually open up again
I suggest, instead of killing a task using ATK.
try this one.
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller
It teaches android how to deal with the memory, so it's android who do your dirty job.
Hmm.... I take a look at at autokiller. I think it's better to let Android handle the mem for me. What I'm looking for is an apps that monitor backgound processes/apps that consumes CPU and memory which they should not.
Once identify those apps, I need to kill them individually.
Watchdog paid version suits me well on this purpose. I can put those apps in the blacklist. If they consumes more CPU in the background process, Watchdog will kill them automatically.
I may consider autokiller when I have of low memory warning from my X10 which is currently I have not.
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X10i Generic Android 2.1, rooted, JIT enabled.
I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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Try install these app
1. RamDroid
2. Advance Task Killer- set the killing frequency to 'switch screen off'
3. CpuTuner (setcpu)- i prefer use the 'ondemand' frequency cos i wan to conserve battery.
all free app.. and need rooted phones. it quite user friendly. jus play with it awhile, u'll know how to use.
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I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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I'm using minfreemanager from market with aggressive option, what gives me ~70MB free RAM by the Android's native taskkiller. It's the best choice as of the 2.1 have a lot services running in backround and nobody should harm them.
Trust me, minfreemanager is your weapon against slowness
Had anyone had any problems playing pandora or slacker radio with the new nero 5?
they both worked fine for me with bionix fusion but now just cut out all the time.
I was thinking maybe it has something to do with the modem.
let me know if you've had the same problem and gotten it fixed.
Thanks.
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Pandora works fine for me with Nero 5
Works great for me as well. I use it in car in landscape mode. I had to install adfree because pandora ads are in the weirdest place in landscape. I also think it sounds a tad better in nero5
Are you overclocked? I once had that problem with a ROM. Had something to do with minimum CPU processor speed. I had set it too low on SetCPu and had to bump it to 400 or something like that....
No, I'm not overclocked.
Could I have messed up something when I odined back to stock?
Or maybe it's my 3g, I'm not sure. But it does suck.
Should I do the 1.4 overclock kernel?
Thanks for helping.
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Have you tried to reboot? The other day I did have a problem connecting for some reason. It would just show the splash screen. After I rebooted it worked, not sure what happened as I could still do calls and texts.
I had the same problem w nero4 but I flashed 5 before I was able to figure out the problem. So far no problems with 5
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I've tried rebooting and it works again for a little while but then it cuts out again.
It's weird it cuts out and then some times it just starts back up when ever it wants. And it seems like it just sucks up all my ram.
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Might want to try fixing permissions and see what happens. Do you have SetCpu installed? If so, what settings are your CPU speeds set at?
I don't have setcpu right now, I'm not over clocked right now. As for the permissions how would I fix thoses?
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You can fix the permissions using rom manager. Just open rom manager and in the utilities sections it says fix permissions, choose that and then reboot when it is finished. I have not had any problems with pandora. Haven't used slacker though.
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It could be the outageously low-memory kernel that's used at the moment by Nero, Axura and others.
There's only 304 MB of RAM available for the user, compared to the usual 320 MB from the JI6 kernel or even 340 MB from the custom JI6 with Voodoo kernels.
In Nero v5 I used Autokiller Memory Manager to change the system's auto process killing parameters, and I saw that by default it's set to kill Provider processes (like Pandora's background playback) until 90 MB of RAM is available. And since it's so easy to reach less than 70 MB free with this bloated Samsung bull **** (even though the bloatware has been mostly removed), your Pandora is ended by the system in order to keep enough memory available.
Another reason to get CyanogenMod working on the Vibrant: I tried CyanogenMod 6.1, an absolutely pure Android build... 100% AOSP, 0% Sam**** (except for kernel), and I have much more memory available. Try it out.
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I'll try the auto memory killer. I tried fixing the permissions with no luck and I installed and reinstalled pandora with no luck.
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So far so good, using auto memory killer.
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Played pandora for 4 hours straight with no problems, thanks alot for the help guys.
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Why is it that I always have to reset "never kill app" in auto memory kill for pandora? Even if I don't reboot my phone it changes on its own.
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OK I have a milestone x2 on eclipse 2.2.1 that has started to lag alot lately RANDOMLY. It's mostly when I wake the phone it's like a complete crawl can hardly do anything an if a app does open it force closes. Something times it will get so bad until it reboots. Is there anything to look for? I clean the cache daily an it just started this bad lag
If if it is just unbearable, sbf. Then take it and run.
And btw- who????? MIKE JONES!!!!!!
Couple of things.
1, You might be overclocked too much which can cause instability or have the wrong governor choice or CPU speed settings.
2. You might be low on memory or have too many apps or active widgets, or a mis-behaving app. Try removing a few things.
cant overclock x2.. and how do i find out if i have misbehaving apps? i only have one screen with widgets. and memory sometimes is in the 80mb range is that too bad?? and how would i help with that problem?
Have you tried running the v6 supercharger or the mashup? And about the apps, what did you install right before this started happening?
Edit: also check your RAM status... go to settings --> applications --> running services and it will tell you at the bottom how much is used and how much is free.
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Recently I have been experiencing this problem which drive me nuts right now.
OK, here is description.
I have been tried Omega v43 MB1, Android Revolution HD 22.4 MR2 and wannam lite v5.9 MR2, all with siyah 1.8.9
I have some background application like music and LBE security.
Just don't why, music very frequently get killed, LBE less frequently, but it happens from time to time. Every time it occurs I checked memory still over 100mb free.
I've checked LMK which is being set to "low" ...
So I really don't figure out what's going on???
I have been using siyah for very long time so I don't think it's about kernel, so I decided switch ROM, so far I tried these 3 ROMs I mentioned before but all the same just matter of more or less frequently...
And I also tried use Jkay framework to lock the apps in memory, but still kill kill kill kill...
What went wrong?
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