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I'm running 'Opera Mini 4 Beta 2' right now and have the following issues:
-On occasion, Opera will close when I go back to the Today screen. I'll press 'OK' and sometimes it takes me back to the Today screen with no problems. Other times I'll have to relaunch Opera and will have lost my spot. Any ideas here? I will say that when I launch it, it says 'suite_02 could not be found'. I tried to set up a shortcut but for some reason it wouldn't work on DCD's 2.1.0 ROM. Maybe this has something to do with it?
-Formatting. In order for Opera to format the page correctly, sometimes I'll have to turn 'Mobile View' & 'Landscape Mode' on and off before the text will be formatted. It could be on my end, but anyone know what this is all about? Is it just mobile view I need to set it as? It doesn't seem that way, but again - could be something I'm missing.
Thanks for any help.
The reason your shortcut is getting errors is because that "suite_02" refers to a specific 'slot' if you will inside your esmertec jbed java launcher. Try different combinations of numbers and you'll find one that works. If you have nothing else installed, often times it's suite 0. Here's my EXACT link's parameters if you edit the file in notepad.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s0_"
hope this helps
Forgot to mention, I'd go ahead and download the final opera 4 mini. It's a lot more stable. I run mobile view all the time also, fwiw
kmartburrito said:
Forgot to mention, I'd go ahead and download the final opera 4 mini. It's a lot more stable. I run mobile view all the time also, fwiw
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yeah you should do that cause im running opera 4 final and it runs great
OK, will definitely try OM4 Final. One quick question though:
How will upgrading to OM4 affected my jbed shortcut? Thank you to KMart for the suggestions, but for whatever reason, nothing really seems to work. Should I uninstall everything and see what OM4 does?
This link should help:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
The instructions work just the same for Opera 4 Final. I am using final.
A problem, for my important one, is that it occupies much memory.
It is to say..., in my single country exist maps for GARMIN XT and if I install MANILA DIALER does not load GARMIN to me XT by lack of memory, if I install plugins in the TODAY does not load the GARMIN to me by lack of memory...
Thanks!!!!!!!!!
I also have this issue with garmin mobile xt. This is not an issue with garmin only - i have it with all applications with high memory usage. Opera, netfront, album and garmin mobile xt have these issues for me.
I used before spb mobile shell on today screen / WM6 stock and I'm started applications from there - this causes lot of troubles for me now with AP4. It will work in first few attempts, but after few close/opens it seams like memory gets corrupted and any application from this affected list will not start at all. They are stuck but other small applications are working fine. Same issue with starting from HTC home and resco today plugin.
I tried multiple hard-resets, software configs and figured out only one solution for now. I have just simple default today's plugins and qickmenu. If I start applications from quickmenu everything appears to be fine - all can be started at once, no visible problems for now. As soon I use application start from today screen - applications will not start correctly, no error message, nothing. It just does not start - for example opera, loading popup will be shown forever.
I'm also tried with hard-reseted rom without any application installed. Same effect with opera - it will not start after few application started.
Do you have issues with other applications or just garmin mobile?
I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
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I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
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you say the pre release worked better. so that makes me wonder if the reason for the memory problems isnt the new manila sip. i think i need to do a beta of a potential 4.1 and try to get the rom right this time. few more issues need to be fixed and i'll have a public 4.1 beta available.
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you say the pre release worked better. so that makes me wonder if the reason for the memory problems isnt the new manila sip. i think i need to do a beta of a potential 4.1 and try to get the rom right this time. few more issues need to be fixed and i'll have a public 4.1 beta available.
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Pawel... my English is not very good... (Speak spanish and translate ALTAVISTA) are working in a new version that occupied less memory?
Thanks.
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I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
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Hello, Eagle, from where I can remove that previous version (Pre-Release version)?
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Hello, Eagle, from where I can remove that previous version (Pre-Release version)?
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Sorry Pre-release version is not available.
As pawel stated, he is working on another version that may use less memory.
After reading over my post, it seems a bit harsh. I did not mean for it to come across that way. A lot of work went into AP4 and sounds like more will come from the team.
Pawel, I see dutty commented on the AP4 and that he was going to try it out. Ever think about trying to get him to collaborate with the AP4 team. He is a great rom builder and seems to put out Roms (always better) every couple of weeks with the latest wm versions for the kaiser.
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Sorry Pre-release version is not available.
As pawel stated, he is working on another version that may use less memory.
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@dutty: welcome, some suggestion for AP4.1?
@Pawel
I am testing AP4, at system's startup, 63.52 Mb free (100.83 Total) with Memmaid only
Having Memmaid, Mail, PocketCM(2.1), Resco 2007, Today Agenda, HTC HOME VGA and Audio Manager active 43.36 Mb free
Adding windows media, opera (default page), tom tom 6, I still have 37 Mb free
Adding large pages to opera (www.repubblica.it, big page, and xda developers in a second tab), Internet Explorer (www.repubblica.it ), I have 22Mb free, more than some TyTN!
From the "plain AP4" I tweaked the system for speed, (many tools can to the same, including Schaps advanced config), removed HTC home using HTC_HOME_VGA
I can't believe in a real low memory problem! I confirm the feeling about the system seems "to hang" sometime when many applications are opened, waiting 10-15 seconds everything is working again and is still responsive.
May be the problems reported are buffer problem, a cache problem..., low resources problem, instead of a simple low memory.
I've closed memmaid and it seems to freeze for a while , tapping on upper's bar application tab nothing happens (Yes, I forgot, I am using wtask and quickmenu too) , but after 8-10 sec is working again and is fast!
Windows error messages are liers sometime (many...) !
sergiopi said:
@dutty: welcome, some suggestion for AP4.1?
@Pawel
I am testing AP4, at system's startup, 63.52 Mb free (100.83 Total) with Memmaid only
Having Memmaid, Mail, PocketCM(2.1), Resco 2007, Today Agenda, HTC HOME VGA and Audio Manager active 43.36 Mb free
Adding windows media, opera (default page), tom tom 6, I still have 37 Mb free
Adding large pages to opera (www.repubblica.it, big page, and xda developers in a second tab), Internet Explorer (www.repubblica.it ), I have 22Mb free, more than some TyTN!
From the "plain AP4" I tweaked the system for speed, (many tools can to the same, including Schaps advanced config), removed HTC home using HTC_HOME_VGA
I can't believe in a real low memory problem! I confirm the feeling about the system seems "to hang" sometime when many applications are opened, waiting 10-15 seconds everything is working again and is still responsive.
May be the problems reported are buffer problem, a cache problem..., low resources problem, instead of a simple low memory.
I've closed memmaid and it seems to freeze for a while , tapping on upper bar application tab nothing happens (Yes, I forgot, I am using wtask and quickmenu too) , but after 8-10 sec is working again and is fast!
Windows error messages are liers sometime (many...) !
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and which two explanation you find him to that if I have plugins in today, GARMIN XT does not start and if them exempt if?
If I have installed MANILA DIALER, GARMIN XT to not it starts me and if exempt it, if?
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and which two explanation you find him to that if I have plugins in today, GARMIN XT does not start and if them exempt if?
If I have installed MANILA DIALER, GARMIN XT to not it starts me and if exempt it, if?
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Low resources, badly written SW (Manila Dialer, Today's Plugins or Garmin XT), many other explanations. Don't trust in windows errors codes, from Vista to CE, they are only a trace!
the loading screen just gets stuck & then nothing else happens. any chance of getting a standalone opera browser installer so that i can reinstall it on my athena? i.e. the opera browser version found in AP4 & not the 9.33 version thanks guys ian
Haven't had that problem, but when I go into opera:config some of the settings won't save. The number of tabs (stuck on 5 even though at first it appears to save a higher number) and turning off the password cache (it won't go away) are two that come to mind.
I also really don't like the lack of scroll bars in this version of Opera.
Yes, it seems several people have complained of this issue. I also have the issue. Seems to be lack of memory available, try remove some today plugins, set keyboad and dialer to basic, soft reset and see if Opera responds better..For me, that works, but not worth the trouble. I also would like the old version in a cab.
Yes, same with mine too. Need to free up memory occasionally.
Me3 - A soft reboot seems to clear it. This Opera is flupping ace, I've been boring everyone with it at work
Ltxda posted a cab for opera 9.4 (in ap4) on the forums a bit ago.Dont have the thread on hand but i do believe it was titled "opera 9.4 be a not 9.33"
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the loading screen just gets stuck & then nothing else happens. any chance of getting a standalone opera browser installer so that i can reinstall it on my athena? i.e. the opera browser version found in AP4 & not the 9.33 version thanks guys ian
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I had experienced this few times. Looks like not enough memory.
Opera 9.5
Hi,
Irus has just released his version of WM6.1 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2176129&postcount=1). In his addons there is a cab named "Opera_9.5__Build_405__Fixed_Uninstall__VGA.cab". I have installed it on my original HTC WM6 rom. I did it on my SD so I can use it or use old version of Opera supplied with my rom.
I can say that I do not have any problems with memory. I am using pBar which shows me memory all the time, so I could see that Opera (the new one) takes a lot of it but as normally I have well over 60 MB, while in Opera it drops down about 10 MB.
However I hate it. No scrolling bars, finger scrolling is mostly not working. It behaves completely unreliably. Some pages are messed (in old opera they were shown properly) and so on. And no vueFlow. In old version it works and I am using it all the time.
Hi Tadeusz - did you have problems before? I use AP4.0 and have had absolutely no problems with Opera, it seams to be a conflict with other apps eg Garmin XT and Adobe reader 2, have you tested this version with those?
Anyone have a link to the Opera 8.65 that was in stock and other roms?
So I've just got round to installing Opera 10 on the phone, slow I know but having done so, I think I know why I was being so slow to do so.
Basically every page I try to go to, I get "The service is overloaded or offline. Please try again later." So hit refresh and the page loads without issue. Move onto next page and get the same error message, hit refresh and it loads. How annoying is that? Any ideas on why this would do this every single time?
Does anyone have any ideas?
Do you use a proxy?
Try looking in operareferences
Perhaps a setting over there is troubling you.
No proxy being used.
Been through all settings, which are set to default. Opera 9.7 works fine on its default settings and can't see anything different between the two versions to suggest why 9.7 loads a page first time v 10 where I have to do a double load of every page to view it.
Except from the standard solutions like clean your history, your cache, your cookies, I cannot suggest any other solution.
Thanks Wilco. Unfortunately clearing everything (not that Opera 10 really had anything in it as haven't exactly used it yet) didn't solve the issue.
I've pretty much got a bog standard HD2, in otherwords haven't really done any tweaks etc but just maybe maybe I changed something using HD2Tweak that might have caused this but somehow I doubt it. Anyone else using Opera 10 expericenced this?
Yeah I get exactly the same issue, not everytime though and only with certain websites. I just put it down to the site being busy and just tried again and all loaded fine. I've no idea what could be causing it as the older version of opera I used did'nt have the issue.
Thanks ritzie for confirming I'm not the only one with the issue. The only thing is it's every site I go to and not just one, which is why it's so annoying, shame as I'm preferring certain functions of Opera 10 over 9.7.
I've just tried to replicate the problem but haven't been able to. Have you tried adjusting the settings in opera, also does it still happen when you're connected by Wifi?
i have same issue .. using o2uk hd2 with opera 10 .. any solution?
What version of Opera 10 are you guys using ?
I get the same problem when I first start opera no matter what site I go to.
I'm using opera mobile 10.0
Anyone got any ideas how to solve this??
Try to turn off Opera Turbo from settings
im using Opera mobile 10 works for me!
just like title says. make sure to update your opera mobile. great changelog and flash support for android 4.03 is back. Seems like the fastest browser around is back with full functionality again. flash video n movies working great on it.
I tried to love chrome, but opera right now is better for me. Smoother and it supports scrolling with the mouse.
Too bad they didn't fix the useless bookmark system..
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Too bad they didn't fix the useless bookmark system..
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I agree. it sux..lol
Opera was my first browser until I found Boat which I've grown fond of. Thanks for the tip on the update. It looks like it is time to revisit Opera.
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Opera was my first browser until I found Boat which I've grown fond of. Thanks for the tip on the update. It looks like it is time to revisit Opera.
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its worth the revisit. still haven't used a browser faster than this. now that flash is working really well on it, this will become the fav. again. getting tired of stock or ICS+ browser FC. I have boat also. its a nice browser, ill admit.
Opera Next (beta) is not bad either
Had a look on the Opera site. Saw you could download Opera Next (beta).
I must say real smooth and not bad.
Will give it a try for a while
what is Opera Next beta? what are new features or difference from opera mobile on android? I might check it out.
edit: seems like its just a new opera mini. opera mini usually doesn't have flash support. I saw opera mini next. is that the one you talking about?
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what is Opera Next beta? what are new features or difference from opera mobile on android? I might check it out.
edit: seems like its just a new opera mini. opera mini usually doesn't have flash support. I saw opera mini next. is that the one you talking about?
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yes you're completely right
No flash
My mistake
But smooth browsing
Really fast and good to get flash support.
And I think Opera Mobile is the only browser that you can use the little search button on XDA.
On other browsers the search box disappear when you try to enter text.. In Opera the search box works like on the computer.
Some sunspider results, lower is better
Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3
Browser: Opera Mobile 12
Tweak: OC 1.6GHz
Result: 1352.3ms +/- 0.7%
Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3
Browser: Chrome Beta. Version 0.16.4215.215
Tweak: OC 1.6GHz
Result: 1558.8ms +/- 1.9%
Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3
Browser: Chrome Beta.
Result: 1828.3ms +/- 1.8%
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Really fast and good to get flash support.
And I think Opera Mobile is the only browser that you can use the little search button on XDA.
On other browsers the search box disappear when you try to enter text.. In Opera the search box works like on the computer.
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Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3
Browser: Opera Mobile 12
Tweak: OC 1.6GHz
Result: 1352.3ms +/- 0.7%
Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3
Browser: Chrome Beta. Version 0.16.4215.215
Tweak: OC 1.6GHz
Result: 1558.8ms +/- 1.9%
Rom: Original ICS 4.0.3
Browser: Chrome Beta.
Result: 1828.3ms +/- 1.8%
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yeah, opera mobile always yells the fastest sunspider results. you see the screen flashing so fast on opera. on any other browser the test seems to take its time. plus I've gotten even faster time than you showed on opera before.
I had many freezes with the stock browser, I installed opera mobile and freezes no longer occur, this browser is very fast and fluid, is my favorite.
opera mobile needs the hardware acceleration and smoothness of opera mini next currently has. Opera mobile's scrolling is way too choppy in framerate.
digressing a little from the main topic... does Opera have adblock extension support for android?
not sure exactly what you mean. if you mean within the browser itself, not sure. haven't seen anything like that. But if rooted, you could just use AdAway and it'll block all ads period. works very well and speeds up browsers even more because it not loading flash ads.
Sorry, yeah, I meant extension for the browser itself. I tried AdAway, it works, but as soon as I add more hosts file (totalling roughly 8megs of hosts file), the app crashed with out of memory error (which surprised me because it works on my samsung galaxy s phone running CM7). So currently I am manually copying the hosts file from my linux to ATP's /system/etc; with just minor alterations to make - a little of a hassle.
Thanks for reply.
Op are you sure this update on Opera Mobile gives us flash.I looked at it last night but the update said nothing about flash.It did say something about having better support for the Samsung 7.7 or something.Another thing what is up with all the new permissions Opera wants now (being able to take video & pictures of what's on your phone)..they're getting a lot of complaints about it too.I love Opera but what gives?
Yes Opera Mobile 12 have working flash on ICS 4.0 DEVICE.
Maybe Iam late to the party but with Opera i can run a video in the browser and the open a second window and i continue to hear the audio from the video playing on the first window.
From the description on Android Market for Opera Mobile
Added:
Support for more than 9 speed dials
WebGL support
HTML5 Camera (Android 2.1+)
HTML5 Device Orientation
HTML5 parser (Ragnarök)
Android Beam support (NFC)
Added Flash support on Android 4.0.3
RTL text support in UI
Turkish translation
Improved:
Keyboard support
Scrolling on high pixel devices (Galaxy Nexus)
Closing of tabs
SSL connection speed
Upgraded:
Presto core (2.10.254)
Permissions: see "http://bit.ly/opera_permissions"
Opera mobile freezing after update
I have been lucky enough to have no problems until now with my Prime or the apps on it.
Unfortunately this update has made my Opera Mobile unusable. Within three minutes it freezes, usually after I've clicked on a link.
I've restarted the tablet to no avail. Will uninstall and reinstall Opera now.
Update: After reinstall the freezes continue, this time even sooner. Anyway, this problem along with their new permissions makes it an easy choice for me. I'm looking for something to replace it. Currently using Dolphin HD but keeping my options open.
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I have been lucky enough to have no problems until now with my Prime or the apps on it.
Unfortunately this update has made my Opera Mobile unusable. Within three minutes it freezes, usually after I've clicked on a link.
I've restarted the tablet to no avail. Will uninstall and reinstall Opera now.
Update: After reinstall the freezes continue, this time even sooner. Anyway, this problem along with their new permissions makes it an easy choice for me. I'm looking for something to replace it. Currently using Dolphin HD but keeping my options open.
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don't really see how. its very stable and hasn't froze or rebooted on me once since update. alot better than stock or ICS+ browser. plus I'm on .15. nothing wrong with Dolphin HD if it works for you. that's what's great about choice of browsers to use. Opera still the fastest n most stable around. now with flash support back n better, this my main browser again.