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I know I'll get a bunch of flamers for this and that's to be expected but after having this phone for a lil over a week now, I'm just not as impressed as I thought I would be. Idk, maybe not being able to flash ROMS & do some of the same things I could with my Evo & Epic, but this phone isn't all that mind blowing like I thought it would be. It's defitinely faster/quicker, I can't take that away from it, but thats about it. The screen difference isn't all that noticibale when compared to the OG Evo and still not as crisp or vibrant as the Epic imo. The camera is a improvement but also not by much. 3D is a fad, much like 3D TV's are. I think a Retina-like screen would have been a better feature. The new Sense is nice but it didn't add much over the previous one, plus we had it on the OG Evo. I'll probably keep it anyway and just upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Nexus Prime if they come to Sprint, but just wanted to see if there is anybody else out there who feel like I do.
Not with you either
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Not with u either the speed of this phone is just amazing and i can't stop playing with the Camera lol
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To each their own - I for one love it, and am VERY happy that I ditched that Damn iPhone for the Droid (have a Xoom as well). Im not really sure I see the need to post that you dont like the phone, like anything in the world - Some people will like it and some wont. You cant argue the overall power of this phone, the 3D is cool - but this phone is worth it if you dont use it for 3D at all.... My Wife loves her too - So much that shes going make me live with the damn Sprint Data speeds, she refused to take her 3D back.
You went from an already fast phone, to a dual core version of the same phone with added RAM and a 3D capable screen (in a nutshell). You wouldn't see a major difference. It's like going from a 2 GHz PC to a 3 GHz PC. Sure you have two cores available now, but for your standard functionality, you won't see much of a change. And comparing it to a super AMOLED screen, well, the phone's specs were published beforehand. I never quite expected it to be as crisp as my Wife's Epic, but I love it anyhow.
For me, buying this phone was a hardware upgrade. 3D is a nice extra. Also, I sold my Evo just prior to launch of the 3D for more than enough to buy the phone w/accessories, so why not?
Now, if you were coming from a Hero or something of that nature, then of course the upgrade would be night and day.
I'm very impressed. But I'm coming from a Hero that I hated from day 1, not an EVO 4G. I agree that 3D still seems gimmicky and hurts my eyes after a while but I'm even slowly starting to like it more too.
I've had over 5 single core 1ghz phones
Two of whitch had AMOLED screens
(vibrant and nexus s) and I don't like the fake "vibrant" colors that LED screens have..
And a dual core. (G2X)
I agree with not "feeling" the power for the extra core.. but I also disagree because its the future... Ice cream in Q4 baby!
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i hope your right; and sprint gets it out to us quickly
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Well coming from tmobile with a Sammy vibrant
We didn't get 2.2 till Christmas after they said early October... So anything is faster than that
Plus didn't sprint/htc get updates to the 4G pretty fast?
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I understand the OP. I'm 50/50 whether I keep it or return for SGS2. It's going to sit deactivated until I decide. My fully rooted OG EVO with a custom ROM is preferable to the 3D right now.
But yeah, for months of build up it was kind of a let down from the OG EVO although I think that's our fault. It's very relative. I was hoping for a great camera and now I don't trust HTC...meh.
I'm really liking this phone. The battery life is good, the display is nice, as great horsepower. I get this strange popping every once and awhile when using the headphone jack... But other than that, I'm liking things in HTC Country. I stayed in Samsungville for over a year, I'm not going back for even a more powerful phone.
I agree with the OP. My OG was amazing. The resolution on the Inspire or EVO may be less but the screens are better on the eyes when it comes to the displaysize. The 3D is terrible. Maybe they should call it holographic because it reminds me of old holographic baseball cards. It's quick but, so was my CM7 EVO. Sense 3.0 is meh, I enjoy the new lockscreen widgets. Although I do enjoy the bloatware removal, better battery life, and task manager. I'm debating an SGS2 for a change.
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The phone has grown on me over the past week..I think we will see what this thing can do with future software.. I mean my og EVO oc/d and rommed scrolled.fast. etc..but the gpu is several times proved and we will be able.to run future programs when the og EVO will struggle
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I agree with the OP. My OG was amazing. The resolution on the Inspire or EVO may be less but the screens are better on the eyes when it comes to the displaysize. The 3D is terrible. Maybe they should call it holographic because it reminds me of old holographic baseball cards. It's quick but, so was my CM7 EVO. Sense 3.0 is meh, I enjoy the new lockscreen widgets. Although I do enjoy the bloatware removal, better battery life, and task manager. I'm debating an SGS2 for a change.
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The 3d doesn't look like a hologram unless you move your display to a different angle..
It's a "glasses off 3d" technology If you knew anything about 3d you would know that you need 3 view points to produce and view 3d in the proper form it was intended...
To expect a **** to pop out and slap you in the face is a little much considering its a ****ing PHONE!
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faster than most
Don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the phone in any way. It's definitely faster and a nice upgrade from my OG Evo. I guess its like somebody else posted, I let my expectations get the better of me. The speed is undeniable, granted I never tried CM or any of the other AOSP ROMS long enough to compare speed/quickness but Myn's, Virus' & Mik's ROMS were pretty fast to me. The 3D is ok if your into that stuff but its a gimmick at best. I own a 3D TV & maybe have watch 2 or 3 movies in 3D. Got it because of the clarity & beauty of the LED. 3D was a extra. Now if they had added a Retnia or comparable screen then we would have something to talk about but this screen isn't any noticeably better than the screen on the OG Evo. Battery life is better than the OG Evo had at its launch but once I got my 3500 Seidio & SBC kernel, battery life didn't matter. I got 2 days on a single charge. Can't really bring Sense into it because we have Sense 3 on the OG Evo also. I guess maybe once we get full root & S-Off and can start really unlocking what the phone can do, my opinion will change but right now its not any better, actually below the OG Evo in functionality & fun. Imo right now I don't see anything this phone does any better than its predecessor.
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Coming from the Hero, this is a HUGE upgrade. Compared to my wife's OG Evo....not so much, until you look 6 months down the road. I think then we'll see the OG Evo's shortcomings. As the apps get bigger and graphically better and we have custom roms running on the 3D I think it will really seperate itself from all of it's predecessors.
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I played with one at a sprint store. It was okay. The screen itself and design was worth it but I don't care much for the 3d feature. But who knows maybe it will grow. I'm not eligible for an upgrade till October. So I will see what comes till than.
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See you, quit sucking up our bandwidth.....go somewhere else.
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And the douches come out to play.....Been here a lot longer than you buddy. On my 6th Android phone & can't count how many Windows phones before them. When you get some experience under your belt than maybe your opinion will count but until then go troll somewhere else.
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I hope you realize what you're saying about the screen..
"Retina Display" = Apple's name for a 960x540 resolution. The reason it looks a little better is because it's more pixels crammed into a smaller screen.
I'd take a 4.3 over it anyday.
I came from the Epic, and really really like both phones. I really don't think you can go wrong with either.
Well long time no see XDA Dev's!
i was here ages ago when i had the touch diamond phone, wich is garbage
im now in posession of a iphone 4, but in 1 month i can choose a new phone.
So my eyes are all focussed on the HTC Evo 3d, but also on the samsung 3d phone.
dont think i didnt do my research. i spend 4 hours today watching and seeing reviews and battle's of the phones.
What ive learned, and i really would like your opinion of this list to see if its correct or lies...(and ive never touched one of the phones ever)
-The evo3d does not have alot of depth? (how is it compared to the 3ds?)
-The evo3d falls behind in benchmarks and games compared to the optimus 3d?
so what do you think about this?
Secondly, i really do like the design of the evo3d. the design of the optimus is a bit crappy IMO.
And maybe one of you guys know wich phone will have smoother browsing and games playing?(planning on buying some 3d games.)
and the specs online...
some say the evo has 4gb of internal memory...other say its 1gb.
some say it can only make 2MP 3d pictures. others say 5MP. (and if they are 2mp cant it be hacked?)
and finally ive read that the optimus 3d does NOT has multitouch while the evo has...is that true?
and is it possible to rip the 3d menu of the optimus and put it on the evo3d? that would probaly help me in making a purchase descision, lol!
And are the browsers, menu's ect smooth? because i come from a iphone...and iphone is 100% smoothness. no lag whatsoever.
Thanks for your time! i will also make this topic on the optimus3d side...so i will learn as much as possible
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Well long time no see XDA Dev's!
i was here ages ago when i had the touch diamond phone, wich is garbage
im now in posession of a iphone 4, but in 1 month i can choose a new phone.
So my eyes are all focussed on the HTC Evo 3d, but also on the samsung 3d phone.
dont think i didnt do my research. i spend 4 hours today watching and seeing reviews and battle's of the phones.
What ive learned, and i really would like your opinion of this list to see if its correct or lies...(and ive never touched one of the phones ever)
-The evo3d does not have alot of depth? (how is it compared to the 3ds?)
-The evo3d falls behind in benchmarks and games compared to the optimus 3d?
so what do you think about this?
Secondly, i really do like the design of the evo3d. the design of the optimus is a bit crappy IMO.
And maybe one of you guys know wich phone will have smoother browsing and games playing?(planning on buying some 3d games.)
and the specs online...
some say the evo has 4gb of internal memory...other say its 1gb.
some say it can only make 2MP 3d pictures. others say 5MP. (and if they are 2mp cant it be hacked?)
and finally ive read that the optimus 3d does NOT has multitouch while the evo has...is that true?
and is it possible to rip the 3d menu of the optimus and put it on the evo3d? that would probaly help me in making a purchase descision, lol!
And are the browsers, menu's ect smooth? because i come from a iphone...and iphone is 100% smoothness. no lag whatsoever.
Thanks for your time! i will also make this topic on the optimus3d side...so i will learn as much as possible
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The depth is good I think, some pictures/videos better then others. But i think much better then the 3ds. That thing gives me a major headache turning the 3D all the way up. Never had that problem with my phone. I actually enjoy the 3D and hasn't faded away like I thought it would.
It does have 4gb of internal but Sense takes up about 3 of it so we are left with 1, which is still plenty.
I never heard if the 5mp vs 2mp but i haven't noticed. The camera is very nice in both 2D and 3D. And the camera button is actually very nice, I wasn't too exited about it at first but fi d it very useful.
And as for the smoothness, I haven't witnessed any lag at all so far. It's very smooth and I have dominated my buddies iPhone 4 with my 3D several times.
I know a lot of ppl have their complains, and bringing them back, but i can't complain about it. I love this phone and is with out a doubt the best phone I have ever had and used
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I have play with both phones, and owned a iPhone 4 for a good time, yet the LG phones has higher benckmarks but in reaility doesn't mean much , just to let you know gingerbread update wich is what is the EVO running is no taking advantage on the duel cores yet, been said that i think the EVO 3d is for you, HTC sense does take ablot space but is make for the new user in mind you won't have trouble at all coming from the iPhone , battery life in Android is no as good as the iPhone but the EVO 3D doesn't have a bad battery life tho, keyboard the comes with the 3d is really good multitouch but iphones still better by hair lol, and the browser is really good and matches to the iPhone as well, camera you will miss it, no for nothing.but the sensor on the iPhone 4 is the best one in the states, the screen being bigger you will ask yourself how come apple haven't done this yet, so much better to read and watch videos , and if you like browse the web in your phone you will love it, I think the 3D is a better customer experience and you will have a blast from it, I have some friends the I convince to get some great Android phones and they love it so far, apps are getting much better now that what it was a year ago and they take less space then ios apps do so don't freak out with 1gb of memory you still have a SD card to tansfer your apps too and can upgrade to 32 gb SD card , I hope this helps on your decision
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The depth is good I think, some pictures/videos better then others. But i think much better then the 3ds. That thing gives me a major headache turning the 3D all the way up. Never had that problem with my phone. I actually enjoy the 3D and hasn't faded away like I thought it would.
It does have 4gb of internal but Sense takes up about 3 of it so we are left with 1, which is still plenty.
I never heard if the 5mp vs 2mp but i haven't noticed. The camera is very nice in both 2D and 3D. And the camera button is actually very nice, I wasn't too exited about it at first but fi d it very useful.
And as for the smoothness, I haven't witnessed any lag at all so far. It's very smooth and I have dominated my buddies iPhone 4 with my 3D several times.
I know a lot of ppl have their complains, and bringing them back, but i can't complain about it. I love this phone and is with out a doubt the best phone I have ever had and used
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hmm can you take some photo's and see how many pixels they are so we know the resolution?
if you turn the 3ds all the way up, and look at a 3d game on your evo3d? wich has more depth? ofcource the 3ds got crap resolution, i already know that
Guess it depends on just what it is your looking for in a phone. Being as your coming frome a iPhone 4 I guess it comes down to Android/HTC Sense vs iOS. Because hardware wise you won't see any improvement. Actually it's really a downgrade from the iPhone 4 which has a better screen, better camera, and battery life. Also way more apps and a better gaming experience. Only thing the 3D has over it would be the larger screen and the 3D feature which is gimmicky IMO. The dual core doesn't come into play because Gingerbread nor any Android apps utilize it. Now OS wise I would have to give the edge to Android with it being more open and easier to customize than iOS which is why I love it. Now in the case of the 3D that openness won't be on display until it gets full root/S-Off/unlocked bootloader/custom kernels but that is coming eventually. So I guess you have to decide whether you want to stick with iOS or Android. The 3D while a great phone right now isn't the phone that really shows off what Android can do when compared to iOS. Now when they finally break the shackles that HTC/Sprint put on it and hang around here a little longer, than you will see what Android/3D really has to offer. Then again it looks like Apple stole a bunch of things from Android and put it into the new iOS 5 and from the rumors the iPhone 5 looks to be a beast spec-wise so maybe you should wait around for that to drop.
I have to disagree with a lot of what Klbjr said.
First, lets throw away the iPhone 5 comments. To compare a theoretical phone that isn't even on the market to a phone that actually is doesn't really work.
Second, I've used iPhone 4's before as I support them at a place I work and the speed issues that supposedly Android suffers are a load. A lot of the "lag" that people talk about comes from widgets that have dynamic screens and auto-update from the web/data connection. So there can be hesitation from that. If you make your screens completely static like an iPhone, just about any 1Ghz Android phone will run just as smooth. I know there will be a bunch of knuckleheads that will challenge that statement, but I'm speaking from experience and actual real-world trials and not the view of a fanboy. The Evo 3D can run circles around the iPhone 4 performance wise.
The cameras. Yes, the iPhone's mono-lens camera is better. Apple did it right there and they put in a quality lens. However, the Evo 3D's cameras are pretty decent if you know how to use them and take a few minutes to understand the settings. It seems the "auto" settings cause more problems than not for people.
Now, that being said, if you are going to try to become a professional photographer with your cell phone then by all means, stick with the iPhone. I don't think you will last long in the professional photography world, but that's just my guess.
As far as HTC Sense goes, people tend to love it or hate it. Personally, I really like a lot of the features and the look of Sense. Klbjr obviously hates it. So I would say you should go to a Sprint store and check it out. Make sure you like it first. Play with the features, try the things you are interested in trying, and see what you think after hearing all the feedback and getting some hands on experience.
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I have to disagree with a lot of what Klbjr said.
First, lets throw away the iPhone 5 comments. To compare a theoretical phone that isn't even on the market to a phone that actually is doesn't really work.
Second, I've used iPhone 4's before as I support them at a place I work and the speed issues that supposedly Android suffers are a load. A lot of the "lag" that people talk about comes from widgets that have dynamic screens and auto-update from the web/data connection. So there can be hesitation from that. If you make your screens completely static like an iPhone, just about any 1Ghz Android phone will run just as smooth. I know there will be a bunch of knuckleheads that will challenge that statement, but I'm speaking from experience and actual real-world trials and not the view of a fanboy. The Evo 3D can run circles around the iPhone 4 performance wise.
The cameras. Yes, the iPhone's mono-lens camera is better. Apple did it right there and they put in a quality lens. However, the Evo 3D's cameras are pretty decent if you know how to use them and take a few minutes to understand the settings. It seems the "auto" settings cause more problems than not for people.
Now, that being said, if you are going to try to become a professional photographer with your cell phone then by all means, stick with the iPhone. I don't think you will last long in the professional photography world, but that's just my guess.
As far as HTC Sense goes, people tend to love it or hate it. Personally, I really like a lot of the features and the look of Sense. Klbjr obviously hates it. So I would say you should go to a Sprint store and check it out. Make sure you like it first. Play with the features, try the things you are interested in trying, and see what you think after hearing all the feedback and getting some hands on experience.
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What were you reading? Apparently nothing I said! I didn't compare anything to the iPhone 5. My actual words were if you listen to the RUMORS the iPhone 5 looks like a beast spec-wise! All of my comparisons were with his current phone THE IPHONE 4! Never metioned anything about lag because I didn't notice any with the 3D. I speak also from owning and comparing both phones! Now you show me were the 3D runs circles around the iPhone 4. I said they were on par with each other. I'm no fanboy of either phone or OS. If anything I would be accused of being a fanboy of HTC and Android. The 3D was my 8th HTC phone & my 5th Android phone of which 3 were made by HTC. Also I've always been a fan of Sense. Never liked AOSP/CM ROMS. Now to get back to what I actually said and not the BS you said, the iPhone 4 does have a better screen in every aspect, except for slightly larger size & the fact the 3D can view 3D movies/pics. You spoke about the camera so no need to go there & battery life isn't a argurment. I don't care which ROM/kernel you run on any Android phone it still won't give you the battery life that people get with the iPhone 4. The only time I got anywhere close was when using my 3500 Seidio with SBC kernel on my Evo. But none of that is stock. So its not a fair comparison. About the only thing you did get right was telling him to go into a store & try it out as this seems to be his first venture into the world of Android & decide for himself. I prefer Android over iOS for my own reasons, he may have other reasons. I have seen iPhone users come over to Android & love it & vice versa. It's all up to personal preferences. But even being a over a year old, the iPhone 4 is still at the top of the list performance wise when compared to current phones on the market.
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*rolls eyes*
Listen knucklehead, you had your opinion. I said I disagree with it. I was respectful and then you come back with all your anger and hate. I still disagree with what you said and now I think you are a douche on top of it. If you don't like my opinion and views, don't read them.
Not everything has to be a pissing match for your fragile ego...
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What were you reading? Apparently nothing I said! I didn't compare anything to the iPhone 5. My actual words were if you listen to the RUMORS the iPhone 5 looks like a beast spec-wise! All of my comparisons were with his current phone THE IPHONE 4! Never metioned anything about lag because I didn't notice any with the 3D. I speak also from owning and comparing both phones! Now you show me were the 3D runs circles around the iPhone 4. I said they were on par with each other. I'm no fanboy of either phone or OS. If anything I would be accused of being a fanboy of HTC and Android. The 3D was my 8th HTC phone & my 5th Android phone of which 3 were made by HTC. Also I've always been a fan of Sense. Never liked AOSP/CM ROMS. Now to get back to what I actually said and not the BS you said, the iPhone 4 does have a better screen in every aspect, except for slightly larger size & the fact the 3D can view 3D movies/pics. You spoke about the camera so no need to go there & battery life isn't a argurment. I don't care which ROM/kernel you run on any Android phone it still won't give you the battery life that people get with the iPhone 4. The only time I got anywhere close was when using my 3500 Seidio with SBC kernel on my Evo. But none of that is stock. So its not a fair comparison. About the only thing you did get right was telling him to go into a store & try it out as this seems to be his first venture into the world of Android & decide for himself. I prefer Android over iOS for my own reasons, he may have other reasons. I have seen iPhone users come over to Android & love it & vice versa. It's all up to personal preferences. But even being a over a year old, the iPhone 4 is still at the top of the list performance wise when compared to current phones on the market.
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i do like my iphone 4's screen ALOT. before the iphone 4 i had the 3gs wich was huge screen upgrade. but will since apple broke their routine of a new iphone each year at desame time, im looking at android. i didnt purchase to many apps so switching is not hard. but im wondering if the downgrade of the screen is going to be big? i mean i ofcource like my iphone 4's screen vs the 3gs. but the screen of the optimus and evo3d are also still alot better then the 3gs. i also like my ipad2's screen(dpi). if the evo3d and the optimus3d got a fair amount of more dpi i probaly dont really mind the downgrade.
Next the iphone4's camera. yes, i love the quality of colors ect this thing makes. but im a sucker for functionality. 3d photo's man...thats super cool. but i do like quality. if the photo's are somewhere near the iphone 4thats okay already. i just dont want pixelated photo's like the 3ds makes haha.
the thing i really am afraid of is the evo3d getting ****. ive heard alot bad stuff about it even on this forum...returned because of dead pixels, bugs, flaws...i also heard the optimus3d is faster because it has the cortex9 instead of the older cortex8.
Things i like alot about the evo3d is its sense menu...i loved that way back on my touch diamond(although the touch diamond is garbage), its design, its led for notification about email and texts, and ofcource its 3d.
but well everyone says i need to choose the optimus over the evo3d for its 3d screen. i dont really care about the 3d games and menu's right now because maybe the menu of the optimus3d can be ripped out in the future...but else i also believe the markerplace will be slowly filled up with 3d goodies. i want to know the sweet spot of the 3d games...can i use it with accelerometer driving, wont the effect be ****ty when i have 2 thumbs on the screen when playing NOVA...and it seems everyone thinks and says the optimus3d got more depth then the evo3d.
about the optimus3d i like that it seems to be alot faster because its a cortex9...it has 8gb memory build in wich is a nice extra, and well again...the 3d is better. and ofcource the menu...but i hope its going to be ripped sometime so the htc evo3d users can have it as well...
It seems like the comments display the pros of the iPhone over the e3d but not visa versa..ok..the screen on the iPhone is a higher resolution..but the EVO is almost an inch larger amd has 3d capability. The iphone 4 has basically the same chipset as the gs1 and while a good soc it can't hold a candle to the 8660..it just can't..camera..well ill give that to you..but only in lower light situations..I take great pictures in daylight.. e3d has 4G, iPhone can keep dreaming..also unless.your jail broke you will pay for all your music games etc..I have great music apps where u dont pay a dime for any songs. I'm not gonna debate the ios vs android thing..I'm a fan of android obviously..but I don't believe anyone can say that the iphone 4 and e3d are equal in terms of hardware..the power of the dual core will become apparent eventually. All phones have bugs/quirks at launch and they will be ironed out.
Now I have no experience with the LG optimus 3d ..it seems nice but i wouldn't buy an LG phone ..I know benchmarks on the LG seem better but that really isn't a good Indication of user experience and more of an indication of the flaws of said benchmarks. Either way you can't go wrong..like one of the above comments said ,go and play with them and decide for yourself. There is a YouTube video which is a dogfight between the two ..I recommend watching it
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Listen knucklehead, you had your opinion. I said I disagree with it. I was respectful and then you come back with all your anger and hate. I still disagree with what you said and now I think you are a douche on top of it. If you don't like my opinion and views, don't read them.
Not everything has to be a pissing match for your fragile ego...
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I have no anger or hate. It had nothing to do with whether or not you agreed or disagreed. I made my post to help the OP in his decision on whether or not to get the 3D and how I thought it compared to his current phone. But I do hate it when people misread my posts, take what they want from them and then twist it, to come up with their own speculations. Case in point how you said that I compared the 3D to the iPhone 5 which I never did because there is no iPhone 5 yet. All we have are rumors. I compared his iPhone 4 to the 3D. Or how you come to the conclusion that I must hate Sense when that is farthest from the truth and nothing in my post even mentioned or compared Sense. So as you can see it has nothing to do with my ego. The OP can take my advice or yours. Doesn't hurt me one bit, but when you supposedly quote me, quote me correctly and not with your own BS assumptions.
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It seems like the comments display the pros of the iPhone over the e3d but not visa versa..ok..the screen on the iPhone is a higher resolution..but the EVO is almost an inch larger amd has 3d capability. The iphone 4 has basically the same chipset as the gs1 and while a good soc it can't hold a candle to the 8660..it just can't..camera..well ill give that to you..but only in lower light situations..I take great pictures in daylight.. e3d has 4G, iPhone can keep dreaming..also unless.your jail broke you will pay for all your music games etc..I have great music apps where u dont pay a dime for any songs. I'm not gonna debate the ios vs android thing..I'm a fan of android obviously..but I don't believe anyone can say that the iphone 4 and e3d are equal in terms of hardware..the power of the dual core will become apparent eventually. All phones have bugs/quirks at launch and they will be ironed out.
Now I have no experience with the LG optimus 3d ..it seems nice but i wouldn't buy an LG phone ..I know benchmarks on the LG seem better but that really isn't a good Indication of user experience and more of an indication of the flaws of said benchmarks. Either way you can't go wrong..like one of the above comments said ,go and play with them and decide for yourself. There is a YouTube video which is a dogfight between the two ..I recommend watching it
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I also did note that when comparing the screens the 3D had the edge in screen size and the 3D capability. I did forget to mention the 4G capability but it slipped my mind because of my own use of it which is never. I live in a 4G area, right outside Philly. I even have neighbors who have Clear as their ISP but my 4G has always been spotty at best. On the Og Evo & 3D. Plus it is a battery killer so I never use it much. The OP may have better results. Can't really get into the music/app thing because with torrents/newsgroups anyone can get free music/apps. That's not really relative to the phones. The camera on the 3D while being better than the OG Evo and ok for a phone still doesn't come close to the iPhone 4's. You are also correct that right now on paper the 8660 beats the iPhone along with every other phone on the market now, but benchmarks don't count for anything. It's about real world performance and the iPhone 4 is just as quick and responsive as the 3D. Like others have said, the dual core counts for nothing at this point because we don't have anything that actually utilizes it and in most scenarios the iPhone will fair better because it has hardware acceleration something that Google hasn't gotten around to yet.
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I have no anger or hate. It had nothing to do with whether or not you agreed or disagreed. I made my post to help the OP in his decision on whether or not to get the 3D and how I thought it compared to his current phone. But I do hate it when people misread my posts, take what they want from them and then twist it, to come up with their own speculations. Case in point how you said that I compared the 3D to the iPhone 5 which I never did because there is no iPhone 5 yet. All we have are rumors. I compared his iPhone 4 to the 3D. Or how you come to the conclusion that I must hate Sense when that is farthest from the truth and nothing in my post even mentioned or compared Sense. So as you can see it has nothing to do with my ego. The OP can take my advice or yours. Doesn't hurt me one bit, but when you supposedly quote me, quote me correctly and not with your own BS assumptions.
I also did note that when comparing the screens the 3D had the edge in screen size and the 3D capability. I did forget to mention the 4G capability but it slipped my mind because of my own use of it which is never. I live in a 4G area, right outside Philly. I even have neighbors who have Clear as their ISP but my 4G has always been spotty at best. On the Og Evo & 3D. Plus it is a battery killer so I never use it much. The OP may have better results. Can't really get into the music/app thing because with torrents/newsgroups anyone can get free music/apps. That's not really relative to the phones. The camera on the 3D while being better than the OG Evo and ok for a phone still doesn't come close to the iPhone 4's. You are also correct that right now on paper the 8660 beats the iPhone along with every other phone on the market now, but benchmarks don't count for anything. It's about real world performance and the iPhone 4 is just as quick and responsive as the 3D. Like others have said, the dual core counts for nothing at this point because we don't have anything that actually utilizes it and in most scenarios the iPhone will fair better because it has hardware acceleration something that Google hasn't gotten around to yet.
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Fair enough..everyone has a right to their opinion..but i do believe if u put sense 3.0 on the iphone 4 it would struggle and lag just like a lot of phones do..ios is streamlined and simple..if you enjoy that that's great..and if it doesn't change much the new iPhone won't really need extra power..
What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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If a developer ports a sense like ROM to the phone yes...
3D > iClone
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What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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Yup but is no a easy task unlike Android that is completely open (since Google releases the code to everyone ) HTC sense is no release (just like ios ) and developers have to guess with code and it won't be as smooth
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Yup but is no a easy task unlike Android that is completely open (since Google releases the code to everyone ) HTC sense is no release (just like ios ) and developers have to guess with code and it won't be as smooth
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Not when HTC sense is now open and provided open source SDK
3D > iClone
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Not when HTC sense is now open and provided open source SDK
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That's actually to male apps and it doesn't give you the base, is an sdk to make apps just like the one for ios the apple provides , cyanogen tweet it about that too
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Has sense been port/ripped to another non-htc android device before?
Maybe there are alternatives with desame look?
carrier unlocking
hi guys... im sorry if i am asking this question in wrong thread!!!
actually i'm too impressed with htc evo 3d's specifications as well as from the reviews by its users...as this phone is not released all over the world, i'm thinking to buy it online from US...but as the phone is associated with sprint, If i buy this phone would i be able to carrier unlock the phone by updating to custom rom or any other ways ????
thankx...
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hi guys... im sorry if i am asking this question in wrong thread!!!
actually i'm too impressed with htc evo 3d's specifications as well as from the reviews by its users...as this phone is not released all over the world, i'm thinking to buy it online from US...but as the phone is associated with sprint, If i buy this phone would i be able to carrier unlock the phone by updating to custom rom or any other ways ????
thankx...
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Sorry but that would be a no. From my understanding Sprint uses CDMA & no SIM card so you just can't unlock & swap SIMs like you can with GSM phones. I heard they may be releasing a 3D or something similar, to European carriers, as seeing the 3D is supposedly a Sprint exclusive. You could try the Sensation, it is pretty much the same phone just minus the 3D capabilities & 768MB of RAM as opposed to 1GB in the 3D. The only carriers I've ever heard of people being able to port over to Sprint phones were Cricket Wireless & Metro PCS, but they are also US carriers.
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Is it just me but i'm envying all the Epic touch owners. I now feel like my 3d is 2nd rate only after owning it for 2 months
It's called hype. They both pretty much on par with one another spec wise except the 3D has 3d and a higher resolution screen. Remember that iphone hype you resisted when you got a 3D it's the same thing
Don't worry about it.. next week you'll have a third tier phone the way this industry is speeding up haha.
I'm sure the SGSII is great and I want one... I'll probably end up buying on when they starting popping up on Craigslist so that I can check out Samsung's phones (I've always had HTC). Your phone is great... and really not too much different
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Is it just me but i'm envying all the Epic touch owners. I now feel like my 3d is 2nd rate only after owning it for 2 months
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Yea its just you
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Here are some sayings to consider. lol.
Another man's trash is another man's treasure.
You don't know what you have until its gone.
You always want what you can't have.
And the most applicable here, patience is virtue.
And a counter saying to the above ones as it applies here,
The grass is always greener on the other side.
#realtalk
I know this ain't twitter, but wth lol
yep, just you. we have the best phone htc can make and the benchmark for every other company. this is the same thing that happend when the droid x came out when i had the og evo. i didnt miss anything with it and i wont miss anything with my 3d. both phones will do the same thing, o nevermind the sg2 cant do 3d lol. i guess they are stuck with a 2d pixilated version.
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yeah ive had the sg2 for about 4 months now(unlocked version of course) but there was just something telling me that i wanted a evo 3d so as soon as the gsm version was available i jumped on it my thoughts were as follows i was going to have both of them one day i would put the sim card in one and the next day switch back to the other one. the sg2 has a beautiful screen and even though it views 1080p video which when playing you cant really tell that the 3d has a higher resolution. it has 16gb internal and i have a 32 gb sd card, so i got movies galore, no music though since i dont beleive in cd's anymore all the music is on my 32gb iphone 4 lol. now back on subject to me it was a win win situation, the best of both worlds ive had my 3d for about a month now and long story short sim card has been in it everyday. trust me you're not missing anything
I felt like that when the epic came out, got one and wanted to kick myself in the ass for doing so. The epic touch is cool now but in a couple of months when updates start rolling out and the forums are full of pissed off touch owners at no updates you'll be glad you have HTC. It could be different this time but I'm leaning towards not. Anyways my 2 cents
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I played with the Epic Touch, and I can say I prefer the Evo 3D. QHD >>>>>> HDPI. The screen on the touch feels so bloated with the huge icons and fonts. Plus, my god, you can see the pixels. It's downright ugly. The Amoled is nice, but it's not worth it for that loss of resolution.
Exactly! The screen may be more vibrant but I would take 3D and QHD over better colors any day.
I played with the ET4G for a few hours yesterday when my bf picked one up, its not noticeably better or "lightyears" ahead like some are claiming. I couldn't even tell the difference speed wise. All I know is my 3D actually feels like a high end device, the Epic Touch feels like cheap plastic. Speakers were definitely better but the resolution and feel was a deal breaker for me. He returned it for another 3D.
I'm glad I got to try it out but I would have regretted trading for one. I'll wait for the Nexus or something.
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Is it just me but i'm envying all the Epic touch owners. I now feel like my 3d is 2nd rate only after owning it for 2 months
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Oh get a grip. They're both great phones and they both have issues to one degree or another.
If you're the type that likes keeping up with Android and are only content with the latest and greatest.You may wan't to make some more money and buy the phones as they drop every month or two.No way you will keep up and be happy on subsidized deals...
Dont go chasing Android waterfalls my friend.
i kinda felt the same when the epic came out when i had the evo 4g but then saw samsung pretty much abandon them so im not worried i wont buy a samsung phone until they prove they can update the phones they release.
Of course you're envying that sht...that's because it's a new high end phone and you don't have it. Just ignore it.
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Of course you're envying that sht...that's because it's a new high end phone and you don't have it. Just ignore it.
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Pretty much this. 2-4 months from now, those Epic Touch owners will be making threads like "Anyone feeling the (insert phone model here) blues?" It's never going to end. That's why I love xda and its devs and helpful people here. Always something different you can do to your phone
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The 3VO is still the one of the best phones out there and in 2 weeks there will probably be a new phone out there that's even better than the epic touch.
I still don't understand all the hype surrounding the Epic Touch 9 months after it has been released to the rest of the world; I'm not a fan of any specific phone brand, but there is a certain quality to the hardware and software of the EVO 3D that is only matched by he iPhone.
To me, the Epic touch with its plastic body and fisher-price interface feels cheap despite its great hardware.
I have no reception issues with my phone, I love the form factor and the resolution, and it's blazing fast.
its a nice phone but im not a fan of touchwiz and with that big of a screen i would have like to seen it be qHD resolution.
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I still don't understand all the hype surrounding the Epic Touch 9 months after it has been released to the rest of the world; I'm not a fan of any specific phone brand, but there is a certain quality to the hardware and software of the EVO 3D that is only matched by he iPhone.
To me, the Epic touch with its plastic body and fisher-price interface feels cheap despite its great hardware.
I have no reception issues with my phone, I love the form factor and the resolution, and it's blazing fast.
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Coming from a g2x and a evo 3d to a photon now to the sgs2 I feel like it was a wise devotion to the brand I always come back too..... Ive only had it for 3 hours and I love it... I loved the evo 3d but the build quality\quality control sucked I have perfect reception and great gps with the epic touch ( I also owned a vibrant with tmobile horrible gps)
As for fisher price plastic interface and "cheap plastic" feel its alot better than the original sgs and im happy with it
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if htc would have waited til oct. to release the 3d we would be still talking about holding out in the epic to get it. just because they released it earlier doesnt mean its older technology.
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I see a lot of people hate the Evo 3D .....why? Alot of people are trading them for the Photon and i don't understand y.....
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The reason I keep hearing is the updates. I dunno personally, I got mine on launch day and never did a update. The other thing I suspect is most best buy/radioshack think it dosn't have hdmi out. Mostly I think it is poor salesmen who think the only feature of the phone is the 3d.
It is what it is.... People have their own reasons for not liking the evo 3d just like anything else. You got your evo 3d so just have fun with it.
It's the tech-train playa. People come and go so they can stay on the cutting edge of hardware progression. It was the same when I was with the Hero.
Just wave them goodbye on their journey and enjoy the awesome phone you have in your hand. I know I am!
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Just wave them goodbye on their journey and enjoy the awesome phone you have in your hand. I know I am!
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You and me both!!
But arent the specs on the 3D superior to those on the photon???
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I think its because htc did a terrible job of marketing the evo. For example, the evo3d is to the og evo as the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4. Maybe even a little more if a step up with screen resolution. Htc shouldve used the 3d selling point like apple uses SIRI. People thought the only reason to get the new evo was for the 3d feature. I do love 3d but the first time u see a 3d pic it is taboo and people never gave it that second look. I think they should have went the evo 2 route and when people went to buy it they would be like "it can do 3d also? Wow!" Apple had lines out of their store because they sold a upgraded phone with a bonus cool feature IMO.
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I think its because htc did a terrible job of marketing the evo. For example, the evo3d is to the og evo as the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4. Maybe even a little more if a step up with screen resolution. Htc shouldve used the 3d selling point like apple uses SIRI. People thought the only reason to get the new evo was for the 3d feature. I do love 3d but the first time u see a 3d pic it is taboo and people never gave it that second look. I think they should have went the evo 2 route and when people went to buy it they would be like "it can do 3d also? Wow!" Apple had lines out of their store because they sold a upgraded phone with a bonus cool feature IMO.
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Totally agree!
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Im happy with my Evo.. in my personal opinion the only thing that the phone is missing is sense 3.5...
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i love my evo 3d but another reason would be the lack of content especially when compared to optimus 3d/thrill 4g
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But arent the specs on the 3D superior to those on the photon???
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If that's the case, you wouldn't know it. The problem is, even with the dual core processor, the extra ram, etc, I still see tons of lag throughout the OS, in all apps. HTC should have spent more time tweaking Sense for speed and smoothness. The only place where the 3D really shines over the 4G is when using pinch to zoom in the browser, or in photos. I notice a huge difference there.
As far as working on the user experience, I think Samsung has done a fantastic job with their Touchwiz. Like it, or hate it, the menus are butter smooth, and it's almost impossible to find a spot where their devices lag.
Same with Motorola. I have noticed a little lag when using the photon, but the phone feels better in hand, and their "blur" interface isn't as resource intensive as Sense is.
I really like the 3D, but compared to the Evo 4G, or even other dual core beasts from motorola/samsung/etc, it just isn't the upgrade the 4G users were looking for. I'm hoping the ICS update (I plan on rooting, and installing a vanilla rom) will clear up any lag with the device, and make it run like it should have from the beginning.
Now, I'm going to go nag HTC to streamline sense, to make it run more smoothly.
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If that's the case, you wouldn't know it. The problem is, even with the dual core processor, the extra ram, etc, I still see tons of lag throughout the OS, in all apps. HTC should have spent more time tweaking Sense for speed and smoothness. The only place where the 3D really shines over the 4G is when using pinch to zoom in the browser, or in photos. I notice a huge difference there.
As far as working on the user experience, I think Samsung has done a fantastic job with their Touchwiz. Like it, or hate it, the menus are butter smooth, and it's almost impossible to find a spot where their devices lag.
Same with Motorola. I have noticed a little lag when using the photon, but the phone feels better in hand, and their "blur" interface isn't as resource intensive as Sense is.
I really like the 3D, but compared to the Evo 4G, or even other dual core beasts from motorola/samsung/etc, it just isn't the upgrade the 4G users were looking for. I'm hoping the ICS update (I plan on rooting, and installing a vanilla rom) will clear up any lag with the device, and make it run like it should have from the beginning.
Now, I'm going to go nag HTC to streamline sense, to make it run more smoothly.
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I agree with u on the whole sense pulling to much from that phone making it lag.it suppose to b a beast but yet it doesn't feel near as quick or sharp as let say et4g or photon.I believe that's another reason it gets passed up.n the 3d camera is kool but when it comes down to it u can't share 3d pics with non 3d phones n so it just basically a 5mp camera with a dual core that feels sluggish cause of sense.
So people just overlook its features cause I believe it doesn't feel like the great phone that it is.I hope when they make the new evo they will make it king of the hill with a better optimized sense.
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I dont see where people feel lag on the evo3d. After about a month of using a evo3d, downgrading back to a evo4g or nexus is almost unbearable. As for the photon, that UI feels laggy straight out of the box. As for sense, the real world doesnt like plain android. This is why everyphone has something covering it up. The evo3d is a powerhouse, so is the epic touch. I guess u can say the newer sg2s are to since they are about the same as the 3d.
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Photon's radio (phone, not FM) is much better than E3D's. Where I get 1 bar on 3D, Photon got 4.....that's a MAJOR reason to switch!!!
I never liked the feel of the EVO4g or the low screen resolution. Phone never felt good to me. I love the 3d because of the tall screen and the qhd and fast processor. I kept my hero when I got my 1 year upgrade on sero because I did not like the EVO4g. And I was the first person to get a consumer hero shipped from Sprint
Sense blows, I run viperrom with adw in the foreground and after a while sense turns itself off
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I honestly think it all depends on the phone you had previously. I had a samsung entro, which was just a regular qwerty texting phone. Upgrading to the evo 3d blew my mind. The entro took about 30 mins to boot up, my evo take 20 seconds.
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Photon's radio (phone, not FM) is much better than E3D's. Where I get 1 bar on 3D, Photon got 4.....that's a MAJOR reason to switch!!![/QUOT
True, the photon does have a great radio but bars dont mean anything. My evo4g lokks like it gets better signal than my 3d but i can stream youtube on the 3d and can even gwt a video pic on my 4g.
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I just rolled w/ the Photon for a week and I hated every second of it.
The phone runs stupidly; even w/ the removal of Blur and such; you CANNOT remove all the Moto crap without crippling your phone (see: contact fcs after you try and remove yahoo bullcrap); and the feeling of the phone in hand is pretty lackluster. Along w/ that there are just so many little software issues; glitches in the UI, glitches in the Radios (my phone liked to go into International Roaming at random), too much work to do the simplest tasks (see: using the stock gallery/music apps), etc.
Overall, sense aside, I am MUCH happier with the Evo 3D; too bad about all the hardware issues I've come across (see: 4 Evo 3D exchanges since launch). Hoping this little guy will last me until the next big thing pops out of the water. I was really thinking of hopping over to the ET or the iP4S but there's too many incongruencies w/ my habits of phone use and those devices.
Really, I'm putting my all of my faith in the Devs to step up to the plate and get some fully-working AOSP goodness on this beast.
Also, once ICS (stock) comes out we SHOULD get an upgraded Sense (even 3.5 would be a major upgrade to this bloated-ass 3.0) so I'm hoping that happens sooner rather than later.
tl;dr - People hate this phone because Sense sucks at life and because of the hardware build/quality of parts (camera, radio, screen, BUTTONS!).
:3 -two cents
People that hate evo 3D hate out of ignorance.
Let them hate.... 3d has some legit specs. flash miui and watch it fly....
Hi folks,
I'm hoping to pick your brains for advice and info on the Evo 3D.
I'm an ex HTC Desire owner and HTC Sense fan, after selling my desire I bought a sim free Incredible S, but after trying 3 different handsets all 3 were returned due to signal loss on the O2 network.
I'm now looking for my next phone (sim free non contract) and I'm struggling to settle on a good one! I thought I was set on the standard HTC Sensation, but after seeing numerous mentions of 'dust under screen', poor battery life, death grip etc, I have to say that I've just about given up on it.
The other phone on my list is the Samsung Galaxy S II, however it's not going to have HTC Sense and I'm not a great fan of Touchwiz. I've also just seen mention of a screen burn type problem which is a bit of a concern. The other specs look quite good for the phone though.
This evening I stumbled on the Evo 3D forum! The phone looks quite nice, it has Sense, it has 3D features which don't really interest me. I also spotted a couple of familiar names in the rom dev section, LeeDroid and Baadnewz .... I thought you guys had Sensations?
So after all that waffle, what I'm really after are your opinions on the Evo 3D, what would you say are the pros and cons, what should I be aware of?
Would you still recommend the Evo 3D, given what you know now from your own experience?
Thanks very much!
I got the EVO3D mainly because I wanted to get the Sensation but I read a review that said ther EVO3D was very similar - so I went for it.
I'm happy so far - I feel as though I have an upgraded Desire HD in all aspects. The phone is probably not as fast as the SGSII, and doesn't have an 8mp/1080p camera, but other than that it seems pretty solid so far.
How's the battery life with yours?
The battery life is roughly 50% better than with the DesireHD. It lasts me through the day with no issues.
I'd wager it'd last 1.5 days in most scenarios
Any advice from other Evo owners?
I came from the EVO 4G. The 3D is faster, has more storage, and better battery life. I would recommend using a good ROM (like Warm 2.3 when its final) and maybe playing with some Kernels to get even better battery life. The 3D features are pretty useless to me personally.
A have seen at least two XDA posters in the Mynion threads talk about getting the GSII and then deciding to go back to HTC with the 3D. If you plan on using stock roms, Samsung's TouchWhiz (or whatever they call it) is far inferior to the work HTC has done with the Sense UI. I hate Samsung's proprietary UI stuff. If you plan to flash custom ROMs anyway, this isnt as much of an issue. I also feel like HTC is quicker/better about getting updates out timely and supporting aging devices. Samsung "has been" notoriously bad enough this.
Sensation been great for me but every device is different so base your purchase on what works for you. Every phone has a batch of bad phones so get insurance and get a phone there all the same at the end of the day. And like he said it so many kernals out there that
fit your needs that you'll be happy with anyone I those phones.
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Just to clarify, does the Evo have the antenna as part of the back cover like the Sensation and Incredible S do?
Any death grip problems? Any screen issues, i.e dust getting under it?
Thanks again.
I came from the Evo 4g and have seen a night and day difference in the battery life. I can go the whole day with no issues. I also have rooted it and currently have Virus' Eternity 1.4.2 rom and stock kernel. The speeds are decent with the stock kernel and the battery life is good which is the main reason I haven't switched kernels yet. I recommend the 3d. I like the capability of watching 3d movies on my phone since I'm on the go most of the time it gives me the ability to watch 3d movies on a plane or where ever else I might be.
i too came from an evo, but i absolutely love the 3vo! at first i thought 3d was just a gimick, but it makes this phone a true show piece! processor is a nice lil upgrade to 1.2 which is plenty enough. plus....you can't beat the development on it! good luck!
Hi there. i have used both sensation and evo 3d
These 2 are both good phone, but, i liked the evo 3d much more for
1- the grip is far better from the sensation which have a nice design,but, not so comfortable to hold ( a bit slippery ) while in sensation you will feel much comfortable grip.
2- the response speed with sensation is beautiful and faster that the sensation.
3- the 3D screen is really nice. try downloading some videos and see for yourself. I personally liked it for videos and photos.
4- battery is good. It lasts a day without any problem with fair usage and data on.
I would vote for the evo 3d no dought. it is a very good device
Thanks
What do the Evo owners think to the still and video camera comparisons shown in the link below, would you say it's a fair representation? The Evo camera doesn't look so good in the review.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d_vs_htc_sensation_4g_head_to_head-review-626.php
The Sensation camera is a bit better of course, but, i did not see that the evo camera is not good.
i like the quality which i am getting from the camera. it is pretty good unless you want a unprofessional pic, then you will need a pro camera.
in summery the shots you get is pretty good since it is a phone cam not a pro cam.
I liked the clarity and colors
still it is a personal preference in the end and that was my opinion
I hope i was hepfull
I'm seeing conflicting information regarding the 2D video recording, some info states that the Evo records at 30fps, but I've also seen 24fps mentioned. Can anyome confirm either as being correct?