dare i say it, after so many months of toil and sweat at the hands of our devs in attempting to unlock our bootloader, has the holy grail now become a quest to re-lock the booloader, essentially placing the chastity belt back on for a virgin warranty policy?
does anyone care about this issue? are there any devs working on this issue? or have they all abandoned the atrix for a shiney new sgs2? should i just throw caution to the wind and unlock my bootloader? only to find that the next day i need to utilize my warranty for a new (refurbished is more like it) atrix?
There are plenty of devs still working on the Attic! Who do you think is working on CM7?
I say man up and go for it
Can't re-lock the bootloader because it's a hardware unlock.
When you unlock the bl...it actually burns a fuse link out on the hardware...you cannot re-lock it.
wow no ****? burns a fuse? i didnt realize software could make such hardware changes, so I guess its a pointless endeavor to try to relock, is it possible or are people attempting to hack the unlocking method so it does everything but blow the fuse?
Under the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act, unlocking your bootloader wont void your warranty unless that is what specifically causes the problem.
The first time I did unlock it worked fine, installed cwm, tried different kernels, then I reflashed original rom and my unlock was gone (no access to recovery and no "unlocked" on screen), had to re-run pudding again...hows is this possible with blown fuse?
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When you unlock the bl...it actually burns a fuse link out on the hardware...you cannot re-lock it.
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Really...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17438929&postcount=30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXc6YYES6Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F840M6oAdww
If you physically altered a chip or link in the phone...then you wouldn't be able to do this..I feel it's nothing more than a coding lock..which can be altered
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Mac11700 said:
Really...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17438929&postcount=30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXc6YYES6Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F840M6oAdww
If you physically altered a chip or link in the phone...then you wouldn't be able to do this..I feel it's nothing more than a coding lock..which can be altered
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Motorola employs eFuse technology developed by IBM. This allows circuits to be altered at the silicon level physically. There is a chip in the phone which utilizes the IBM eFuse technology and blows a fuse if the stock bootloader cannot be verified.
All that is being done in those videos is flashing a SBF to remove the word unlocked from the boot logo screen. This is common knowledge, but does not repair the blown fuse.
sweet! can we get some more threads entitled nearly the exact same thing?
between this topic, CM7, and MIUI.....i dont know which i get more tired of reading
Pirateghost said:
sweet! can we get some more threads entitled nearly the exact same thing?
between this topic, CM7, and MIUI.....i dont know which i get more tired of reading
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I fu^%ing love this guys posts. Every time I'm reading a thread and I come to a point where he's posted something like this I literally almost cry laughing. Because it's what I WANT to say, but don't have the senority here yet to say, so thank God for the PirateGhost.
edit: How about starting a post entitled : How to Relock Bootloader. Here's the whole thread:
"Update to gingerbread with OTA update.
Unlock bootloader.
Flash 1.8.3 SBF.
Send phone back to AT&T
Get new phone. There ya go. Locked bootloader!"
Mac11700 said:
Really...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17438929&postcount=30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXc6YYES6Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F840M6oAdww
If you physically altered a chip or link in the phone...then you wouldn't be able to do this..I feel it's nothing more than a coding lock..which can be altered
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Those videos are bad!
Anyways can we relock the bootloader if we had a sbk file though nvflash?
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GerardAnthony said:
Those videos are bad!
Anyways can we relock the bootloader if we had a sbk file though nvflash?
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As posted earlier, there is no way of relocking the bootloader as it PHYSICALLY blows a fuse.
What happens when moto fixes hard bricks with there Dev cable and sbk file, what becomes of those blown fuses?
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GerardAnthony said:
What happens when moto fixes hard bricks with there Dev cable and sbk file, what becomes of those blown fuses?
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Sent in my unlocked Atrix before. Returned "locked" but ReservedODM shows the fuse is still blown. There is no software fix for a burnt fuse. They just hid the text
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/htcs-bootloader-unlock-process-goes-live-sensation-prepares-fo/
Too bad you're going to have to register your device with HTC in order to use it. That way they can track that your device is rooted and deny your servicing.
I'll stick with Revolutionary when it can actually handle my Rogers device.
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Too bad you're going to have to register your device with HTC in order to use it. That way they can track that your device is rooted and deny your servicing.
I'll stick with Revolutionary when it can actually handle my Rogers device.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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Not sure about that. Once they know your unlocked the bootloader, I think they can deny your warranty (may even be something you have to agree to as part of the process).
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Not sure about that. Once they know your unlocked the bootloader, I think they can deny your warranty (may even be something you have to agree to as part of the process).
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Yeah, but is this going to void your warranty by the carrier? I have Sprint's TEP, so I don't think I really need to worry about it.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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HTC did mention that if you unlock your bootloader your warranty will be voided.
I sure hope nobody is considering using HTC's unlock method... Revolutionary works perfect and is totally reverable and untrackable.
I might have to use it if revo doesn't end up supporting my Evo 3D. Right now Revolutionary unlocks every EVO 3D except Rogers Canada phones which have HBOOT 1.49.0008.
I'm hoping Revo does end up supporting ours as I don't want to void warranty if I don't have to!
Yes. Lose your warranty. Lets all do it.
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I wonder how many people who spammed HTC's facebook wall with complaints about the 3D being locked/how long it was taking them to unlock it aren't even going to use their tool.
Warranty is voided if you use HTC or revolution. I like the xda developers and always contribute to the things they work on, but I am going to use the best unlocking method right now it is revolution . I'll use HTC when it comes out because I like to see what HTC has to offer, they have been good so far.
carica42 said:
Warranty is voided if you use HTC or revolution. I like the xda developers and always contribute to the things they work on, but I am going to use the best unlocking method right now it is revolution . I'll use HTC when it comes out because I like to see what HTC has to offer, they have been good so far.
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The difference between HTC and Revo is that with Revo you can always lock back up and no one will be the wiser (unless you seriously screwed something up in the software). With HTC, you register with them beforehand that you plan to unlock, and then you regsiter with them again when the unlock is performed. There's no denying it, no fooling them. And you can be assured they'll be sharing that info with the carriers.
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I wonder how many people who spammed HTC's facebook wall with complaints about the 3D being locked/how long it was taking them to unlock it aren't even going to use their tool.
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It's a matter of principle.
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is it just me or does the so-called "unlocking" method/instructions sounds almost similar to revolutionary's method/procedure??? ex... generating keys... having sdk downloaded for fastboot commands/htc drivers??? just sayin...
Ok the warranty thing says may cancel all or parts which I'm sure if it is a true hw problem it will be fine and your warranty will be ok unless you oc it and causes it to mess up etc also isn't the nexus line that way if u unlock it revokes it
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Why is everyone so wound up over HTC's warranty policy on the unlocking of the bootloader? You all know what you are getting into when you mod your phones. If you are a dumb ass and use a OC app and set it for 1.8 min & 1.8 max and jack your CPU up its YOUR fault, not HTC's. If your LCD starts to pull away from the phone then HTC will be responsible, surely they wont deny your warranty for issues like these because you unlocked your phone.
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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Why is everyone so wound up over HTC's warranty policy on the unlocking of the bootloader? You all know what you are getting into when you mod your phones. If you are a dumb ass and use a OC app and set it for 1.8 min & 1.8 max and jack your CPU up its YOUR fault, not HTC's. If your LCD starts to pull away from the phone then HTC will be responsible, surely they wont deny your warranty for issues like these because you unlocked your phone.
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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Finally someone w brains lol
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However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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That's the reason I won't use it. I'm fine with HTC's warranty policy. It makes sense from their standpoint.
I'd simply rather avoid it altogether by not registering myself as having unlocked my bootloader.
Hey guys... been checking around.. have a few quick questions. Just to give you an idea.. I've rooted and flashed my own Captivate, now my brother is looking for a new phone so we may get him an atrix.
1. How common is it to hardbrick the atrix? I know that on the captivate a hardbrick is an extremely rare happening, and you can almost always go back to stock via odin.
2. Is CM7 officially available? if so are the nightly releases fairly stable?
3. I know that flashing voids the warranty, and I wouldn't try to redeem a phone I ruined by overclocking or anything like that.. However, I prefer to have a way to completely remove anything I did to the phone. Is this possible?
1. Not very. Unless you try to downgrade from 4.5.91
2. I'm using cm7 now. No nightlies but 0 issues! VERY stable!
3. If you unlock bootloader its unlocked. No going back.
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Like joe said a hard brick is not very common, unless you don't follow directions. Cm7 is currently in beta for the atrix, but it is very very stable. No web top or finger scanner try though. Once you unlock the phone, during startup wroth the red M in thee upper left it will say unlocked. So nope, no way to undo it all.
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I'm going to agree with the the first two points earlier posters made, but as for relocking the bootloader, I think it can be done if you sbf(not recommended) back to the stock 3.4
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Thanks guys, I know that on the Captivate if you go back to odin it returns it to stock.
I am hesitant to root something that can't be reverted.. not a good situation if something goes out.
I don't think he is too worried about the finger print scanner or webtop.
My friend wanted his Atrix rooted i took it home and did it under a hour, I had no experience with command prompts at the time
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There's an easy to follow guide if you only want root, not unlocked bootloader. Other than removing bloat its mildly pointless though
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krad54 said:
I'm going to agree with the the first two points earlier posters made, but as for relocking the bootloader, I think it can be done if you sbf(not recommended) back to the stock 3.4
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I was under the impression that unlocking the bootloader cannot be undone, which is why the hardbrick occurs when flashing back to an earlier version after the GB OTA update.
I believe flashing a fruit cake should give you the stock Motorola bootlogo (no "Unlocked" at the top) image, but the bootloader will still be unlocked.
The biggest issue here is honestly this.
I don't want to get a phone with some sort of manufacturer defect, then not be able to claim the warranty because the phone was at some point in its life flashed. (Sometimes it takes a while for the defects to actually pop up..)
I don't believe in overclocking or anything like that.
If I softbrick a phone I can usually fix it on my own.
I just don't want say, the speaker to go out and it have nothing to do with what rom he is running..
And then for my brother to be out of a phone, just because the speaker went out.. despite it having nothing to do with the fact it was flashed..
As to the bootloader, yes you can flash earlier versions and the "unlocked" at the boot screen will disappear, however there will remain evidence that you had unlocked the bootloader before if they investigate it
That being said there's been quite a few people who have been able to get warrenty replacements and repairs sending back their phones after flashing back..I haven't heard of anyone who's phone has been investigated that deeply and rejected
That works.
I mean, I don't have any intention of overclocking or pushing the hardware out of spec or anything.
I figure as long as whatever goes wrong is reasonable and not related to doing something stupid with the device we will probably be ok.
You don't need to overclock that phone at all ... rooting it's simple as I posted before. There some bootloader blocking you from loading roms, can be taken off.
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While completely bricking the Atrix is hard to do, it's still possible if you don't carefully read all the instructions. I do miss the Captivate though, it's incredibly easy to flash and recover from any mistake. The CM7 beta build is very stable, I have been using it since the last update was release on the 13th of September and haven't experienced any big problems. If your brother is looking at the Atrix for the webtop or fingerprint scanning capabilities though, just know that the current CM7 build do not yet support them.
From what I've read so far, I haven't seen anyone trying to use their warranty have a problem with the unlocked bootloader. If you're going to buy it through AT&T, I'm pretty sure they're oblivious to it anyway. Last time I exchanged my phone at the repair center, they didn't even bother to see if it booted. They just took it and handed me another one on the spot.
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So my HTC amaze died on me about 2 days ago I was listening to my music in my car connected through Bluetooth then a cop passed by and everything shut off haha coincidence haha anyway went home had no service like absolutely nothing thought nothing of it and went to sleep, next morning still nothing and ever since now its dead. Called HTC they said most likely its T-Mobile not the phone but they sent me a replacement back cover (which is cool) because the antennas are on the back anyway I know this isn't the problem because even without the back cover you can still get signal. So I took phone to T-Mobile put new sim tested and nothing so now I know its the phone not T-Mobile. Anyway my question is how can I prepare to send back to T-Mobile I have relocked phone put stock recovery and put leaked ics Rom. So is that bad that it sais relocked and bad if I'm using leaked ics rom I know its voids warrenty when it sais relocked but my software and phone everything works perfect its just the signal so will they fix it? And when I send in could I send phone with a eBay bought battery not HTC one so they could send me a new battery or should I send only HTC battery, phone, and back cover. And also is there any fix for this so I don't have to send in? Please help thanks
You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
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Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
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Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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Just trying to help you get that under your hat, no offense meant.
Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid
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Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid <br />
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I've never heard of a warranty exchange get denied for this phone... even rooted. Most issues with this device are hw issues... u will be fine
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aw glacierguy thanks for the positive attitude! hope everything goes good for my phone!
So update for everyone i called HTC back and told them to cancel my back cover replacement for the Amaze because i know this is not the reason why i have no bars! because without that cover i still had bars and i know the amaze has some more antennas inside the device. Anyway i told them that i want to send the phone in for repairs so now everything set up and just have to send the phone on its way :crying: hope its a hardware issue and they can fix it. In the mean time got kinda intresting email from HTC saying
"After we receive the device, we will diagnose it and if there are any damages that fall outside of the limited warranty, we will contact you with a quotation to repair. If you choose not to repair, a service fee of up to $35 dollars will be charged and the device will be returned unrepaired."
Yes kinda scared me but hope i don't have to pay anything for this repair so everyone wish me luck and ill let you guys know how everything goes.
Sucks im probably not gonna have my phone for about a month
Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
Yes what darknightmare said you could get token but maybe last second decided not to do it haha anywho sending it saying relocked hope they fix hardware issue if not maybe gotta spend money?
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
Ya for sure lets see what htc sais shipped out today through ups htc should get it thursday hope ups loses or breaks my packagae have 300 dollar insurance ha but yep anyone know of any prices for this fix?
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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100% on what Dark Nightmare said, i followed the procedure on the forums on how to completely restore to stock. i was s-off etc.. after it was all said and done, my phone was locked and ready to rock. I sent it back after my replacement arrived and all was good.
Just read through General, Q&A and Dev section, Trust me the answer is there. It's ALWAYS there. I used the GB juopunutbear S-off tool instead of the ICS tool cause i am retarded and didn't take my time and got stuck because of it. I did 2-3 minutes of using the search button and i was fixed in a second!
First of all! Yes Dark Nightmare is correct he knows his stuff you can put it back to locked anywho i would first like to say thank you for all the replys to this post. First post and didnt think my question would be answered but it was and its a great community we got here, i may be new member, but ive always been on xda reading up and hacking all my phones i have went from metro pcs huawei ascend, tmobile my touch 4g and now htc amaze all rooted and custom roms also have done droid and sidekick 4g. The thing is i do have experience and learned alot. Main thing is its an honor to have Dark nightmare and glacierguy here i feel like you guys are famous! ha have seen you guys in different sections and you guys know your stuff so thanks!
p.s everyone that posted i hit thanks
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That's why when dknmare comes in I don't argue with him instead I take it and learn.
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Dark Nightmare said:
Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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I think my post may not have been clear. Of course you can lock the bootloader; that is how one installs the original ROM. But I was under the impression that it then says ”relocked” if you have previously unlocked the device. That warning from HTC have me a lot of pause when I read it! But I think what I read said ”may” void your warranty. But I was reading fast...
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So what is Bump? I understand its a "bootloader workaround", but i just dont see how it works? If you were to boot into the bootloader, would it say ***UNLOCKED*** or ***LOCKED***? I really don't get it, how do you simply bypass it? lol, is it worse than a full unlock? If so, then how? Someone explain this to me, I cannot find anything on Google and the lack of information is driving me insane considering I'm going to be doing this tomorrow and usually know exactly what I'm getting into.
To rant on a bit more....I really just don't understand it, I'm big on my personal thought of how my phone is so the potential of it being "LOCKED" still really disturbs me for unknown reasons. But I realize that isn't really the important thing, still just wanna know what it is. I also don't understand how you can do things and still have a locked bootloader to begin with, so if someone could explain that to me (in the case its still locked), that would be fantabatastical!
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
So what is Bump? I understand its a "bootloader workaround", but i just dont see how it works? If you were to boot into the bootloader, would it say ***UNLOCKED*** or ***LOCKED***? I really don't get it, how do you simply bypass it? lol, is it worse than a full unlock? If so, then how? Someone explain this to me, I cannot find anything on Google and the lack of information is driving me insane considering I'm going to be doing this tomorrow and usually know exactly what I'm getting into.
To rant on a bit more....I really just don't understand it, I'm big on my personal thought of how my phone is so the potential of it being "LOCKED" still really disturbs me for unknown reasons. But I realize that isn't really the important thing, still just wanna know what it is. I also don't understand how you can do things and still have a locked bootloader to begin with, so if someone could explain that to me (in the case its still locked), that would be fantabatastical!
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Since LG and Verizon both lock their bootloaders there is no "Official" way to unlock the bootloader. You can't even boot to bootloader. There is just no such thing. Bump is a work around to get TWRP installed without unlocking the bootloader.
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NBreunig3 said:
Since LG and Verizon both lock their bootloaders there is no "Official" way to unlock the bootloader. You can't even boot to bootloader. There is just no such thing. Bump is a work around to get TWRP installed without unlocking the bootloader.
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I found the thread for the devs and now I understand it, basically allows you to sign images that the BL will allow, so its pretty much just as good as a BL unlock. Neat!
I recently purchased a T-Mobile LG G5. I am not too tech savvy, and since I'm a novice when it comes to rooting, I have a question I need help with.
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my phone. Shortly after doing so, I noticed a blister in the paint of the phone's battery/charging port tray. This is the part I'm referring to. http://www.globaldirectparts.com/OEM-LG-G5-Accessory-Module-Loud-Speaker-Gold-p/lgg5hsg4gld.htm
I contacted T-Mobile, and they offered me a warranty replacement. That sounds great, but I'm bummed out. I have my phone customized exactly how I want it, screen protector and all. I can't figure out if I want to go through the hassle of unrooting my phone, relocking the bootloader, then doing the reverse to the new phone.
Anyhow, the answer to this one question will help me decide. There's always the possibility that the T-Mobile store rep will be unconvinced the blister, which has since then burst, was a manufacturer defect. It actually now looks more like a scratch. If I go ahead and relock the bootloader, but am denied the warranty replacement and have to keep my current phone, will I be able to unlock it again? Or should I save myself the hassle and shell out $70 to buy a new battery/charging port tray?
The common sense answer is to ignore the blemish and keep using my current phone. But I'm a perfectionist when it comes to these things and can't bring myself to do it.
EDIT: I'm going to leave this up rather then delete because the answer below may have valuable information for somebody else. But there was never a blister in the paint. I feel like such an idiot. The phone came with a plastic protective adhesive that was applied so well, I never realized it was on. That's what blistered.
You could relock the bootloader, and send it back. The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted. If you decide to lock the bootloader again though, you can unlock it later on again, that is no problem. I would suggest unrooting it, and relocking the bootloade, if you can not ignore that blemish. I just got mine yesterday, and im debating whether i should root it again, because i am not certain that i could re lock it and recover the warranty. I only need to root it because of adaway, since there is no custom rom support yet.
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Thanks for the reply. Read my edit to the original post. You're gonna laugh.
rebelde80 said:
Thanks for the reply. Read my edit to the original post. You're gonna laugh.
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Yea, It's legit funny have fun with your g5!
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Is there a way to unlock a relocked BL?
I bought a used G5 H850. When I try to unlock BL on LG site, I get the following message "Device ID is unmatched. Please check your Device ID. Your account will be locked if you enter the wrong Device ID more than 4 times.".
Searching in the internet, it seems that I get this message because my phone had been unlocked once.
K40S said:
The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted.
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1.) the phone id was entered to get the unlock code
2.) you can find a unlock detector in a hidden service menu
:crying: if they want to see, they will be able to see!
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Csetoue said:
Searching in the internet, it seems that I get this message because my phone had been unlocked once.
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as I know:
that’s right! At the first time the phone was unlocked; the id was registered as "unlocked" in the LG data pool! AND unfortunately the ID was related to the user account of first registration.
Best way will be to contact the first owner if you can.
K40S said:
You could relock the bootloader, and send it back. The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted. If you decide to lock the bootloader again though, you can unlock it later on again, that is no problem. I would suggest unrooting it, and relocking the bootloade, if you can not ignore that blemish. I just got mine yesterday, and im debating whether i should root it again, because i am not certain that i could re lock it and recover the warranty. I only need to root it because of adaway, since there is no custom rom support yet.
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How to relock the bootloader pal?
Im curius because, even if the bootloader is locked again, cant LG search among the IMEI's and find out that previously the device was tweaked?
Thanks!
alextheboss96 said:
How to relock the bootloader pal?
Im curius because, even if the bootloader is locked again, cant LG search among the IMEI's and find out that previously the device was tweaked?
Thanks!
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While LG will know that the Unlock.img file was requested they wont know if you have used it or not. So they will need evidence that you used the file in order to warrenty void.
JAYKETM said:
While LG will know that the Unlock.img file was requested they wont know if you have used it or not. So they will need evidence that you used the file in order to warrenty void.
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Ooh i see. Cool bro thanks for the reply!