:-( If there was even a slight hint of hope regarding custom kernels and full bootloader unlock (without losing 4G), I know the devs would have already said so. Come September 16th, I'm getting the SGSII and my MoPho will be handed down to my son. Still a GREAT phone but development for it is still much to be desired. Want to flame? Go ahead, feel free. Still won't change the grim reality.
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I agree with you!!!!
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LOL! Just for fun. I hope you are wrong, but I think you might be right.
I came from the 3-d and wow, your right not much going on here. I am going to stick it out a while longer though and see if anything starts to burst.
Sadly...
I am starting to think that this may be as good as it gets.
Just run launcher 7 and pretend you're actually running wp7; thats why i do
This phone stock is the best experience ive EVER had on a stock phone. Im happy!
Ok thanks?
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i warned yall that once teh sgs2 drops it will get even slower around these parts, shame too cuz this is a really nice phone.. just piss poor timing on sprints part.. not a huge surprise really coming from them. hell they had announced teh epic and sent it out to everyone and it wasnt until reviews came out that they threw up an ad having it alongside the evo
After owning the EVO all of last year I got over needing to flash a new ROM every few days. Stock is running so well for me I don't really care. We will get AOSP ported it will just be a matter of time. I would be tickled if MIUI got ported thereafter.
Once android.git.kernel.org comes back online I'm going to start porting CyanogenMod lol... I can't do any development if I can't get source code. And I'm not paying $200 for a new phone when the MoPho was only $100 and has >= specs.
Shut the hell up with all this complaining will get you know were in life. Suck it up and learn to be patient.. they will come..
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Do we even know who os working on anything? Is jugs or calkin still working on stuff?
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I agree... patiences. IMO This phone rocks just on stock. But I trust aaht once things settle we will see more action here with dev. Better to have stable roms than things pouring out just because.
If not im happy.
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:-( If there was even a slight hint of hope regarding custom kernels and full bootloader unlock (without losing 4G), I know the devs would have already said so. Come September 16th, I'm getting the SGSII and my MoPho will be handed down to my son. Still a GREAT phone but development for it is still much to be desired. Want to flame? Go ahead, feel free. Still won't change the grim reality.
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Wow the Photon source code just got released last week on 8/30 and you are complaining about not having development done on the Photon? You must not have done development before because it takes lots of time and effort to test out all bugs. Also I would say 95% of the devs that do this are not doing this full time for a living but rather on their free time. Also the Photon has made huge progress without the source code in its first month including 1) root with docking station 2) root without docking station 3) unlocked bootloader when the stock bootloader is locked. What more do you expect right now.
Just be patient and wait a couple more weeks for things to come up. If you want to get the SGSII because you think all of a sudden there will be more support then be my guest. There is no secret that the devs need the source code before they can modify anything. With the SGSII coming out it'll be a while before the source code is released. You'll see how foolish this is.
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Once android.git.kernel.org comes back online I'm going to start porting CyanogenMod lol... I can't do any development if I can't get source code. And I'm not paying $200 for a new phone when the MoPho was only $100 and has >= specs.
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I remember when you attempted to port webos to hero lol. I ran your roms on my heroc; you're a great dev man!! I hope you can do what you did on my heroc to the photon...
Every time I get a new phone, the first thing I do is install GoSMS, GoLauncher, and GoDialer. With this phone the only non blur app I use is GoLauncher. And the only reason I use it is because I like my app drawer organized into folders, and a 5x6 grid layout. This phone is as close to perfect out of the box as I thought was possible. And everything I don't like, they have an app to change. Just my 2 cents.
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Coming from the Evo-shift... this is blazing fast. I'm having trouble keeping up. We didn't get root for at least a full month.
We better settle for enjoying the stock experience.
This phone will be the red headed stepchild. I like the stock experience, sans the bugs. We should accept it or get something else.
HondaCop said:
:-( If there was even a slight hint of hope regarding custom kernels and full bootloader unlock (without losing 4G), I know the devs would have already said so. Come September 16th, I'm getting the SGSII and my MoPho will be handed down to my son. Still a GREAT phone but development for it is still much to be desired. Want to flame? Go ahead, feel free. Still won't change the grim reality.
People like you are going to chase development away. They do this for a hobby. Not to please you. Who wants to work hard in their free time just to be complained about, rushed for eta's. Help out, not sit there and rush people so you can leach off there hard work. I hope you get your epic touch..... Good riddance.
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HondaCop said:
:-( If there was even a slight hint of hope regarding custom kernels and full bootloader unlock (without losing 4G), I know the devs would have already said so. Come September 16th, I'm getting the SGSII and my MoPho will be handed down to my son. Still a GREAT phone but development for it is still much to be desired. Want to flame? Go ahead, feel free. Still won't change the grim reality.
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You pay a lot of money for your phone plan (as do we all) so you should have a device you are happy with. If that is the SGS2, than go for it.
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After owning the EVO all of last year I got over needing to flash a new ROM every few days. Stock is running so well for me I don't really care. We will get AOSP ported it will just be a matter of time. I would be tickled if MIUI got ported thereafter.
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+1 My thoughts exactly.
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Do we even know who os working on anything? Is jugs or calkin still working on stuff?
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Would be nice to know. Wish peeps would just check in from time to time just to let us know they are still around.
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Im curios to know how many people will take back their Evo 3D if no root method is found within their first 30 days. Im still debating myself, but I think this may be a way of getting Sprints attention. If there is a significant number of people who threaten to take theirs back, maybe Sprint will put the heat on HTC too.
I've threatened to but I am not sure that I will. Rooted or not this phone is ridiculously sick and I am having way too much fun with the 3D feature! I remain confident that HTC will get this done, perhaps with the 2.3.4 update.
You'd have to take it from me!
(Please don't take it from me!)
I won't. I like it fine now. Root would, of course, make it better.
I LOVED my EVO 4G, rooted with Myn's ROM Picked up the 3VO on Friday, was not super blown away at first, but now three days later, it is a more mature and refined EVO 4G, polished up in all the right places, and overall a better device. I like it over my ogEVO for sure, but it's not night and day better.
But seeing the reviews of the Galaxy S2, makes me think 99% I will go for that when it comes out. I am a sucker for the Super AMOLED+ screen, just go to an ATT store, check out the Infuse 4G, it uses the same screen tech, and instant boner looking at that beauty, the colors are jaw dropping, and viewing angles perfect.
Plus the Galaxy S2 is super ****ing thin, I am sucker for razor thin phones, they look so much more futuristic to me. And the design of it being an all black thin slab, just looks so cool. When Sprint gets it, it will be hard to resist.
Brand new review;
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review-vodafone-network
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Lets fact it not that many people will return this phone to have the impact you are looking for; the fact is it is not just a good phone it is a stellar. Even without root, this phone is one of if not the best on the market right now. I won’t get hung up on the root for now because I am sure either, HTC or the community will unlock the device.
I'm still debating as well if I should go back to the Evo 4G or stay. I do love all the new features, design, and speeds...but mess my rooted apps. I would also like to add some lockring and battery mods. I had a rooted Evo 4G with Sense 2.1 + 3.0 already (MikGv2.4) and mess the mods and themes. Hopefully HTC gives out the bootloader soon. If they do, then I'm definitely staying with my Evo 3D.
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x2 on that new Samsung coming out... It seems very tempting to make the trade if HTC doesn't unlock these phones. I'm not really concerned with 3D. It's a cool 'wow' factor to friends but I personally don't really use it on my own. I guess when it gets closer to time for the new one to come out, I will make my decision then... Right now I'm leaning more toward sticking with HTC.
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I've threatened to but I am not sure that I will. Rooted or not this phone is ridiculously sick and I am having way too much fun with the 3D feature! I remain confident that HTC will get this done, perhaps with the 2.3.4 update.
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+1...I am SUPER impressed with this phone overall. The 3D turned out not to be too gimmicky, but rather awesome.
Love it but it will go back if no root.
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Learned this lesson a long time ago: never buy anything on a promise! I for one will not return it whether it gets root or not. I'll have a LOT more respect for HTC if they do unlock it, but me personally, I bought it knowing it was going to be locked. The "talk on the net" about HTC unlocking it via an OTA update is/was always just heresay. I also have confidence that whether they unlock it or not, eventually someone will pwn it.
Mike
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Learned this lesson a long time ago: never buy anything on a promise! I for one will not return it whether it gets root or not. I'll have a LOT more respect for HTC if they do unlock it, but me personally, I bought it knowing it was going to be locked. The "talk on the net" about HTC unlocking it via an OTA update is/was always just heresay. I also have confidence that whether they unlock it or not, eventually someone will pwn it.
Mike
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Hearsay directly from HTC's CEO, so I think it would carry some weight.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ve-an-unlocked-bootloader-one-way-or-another/
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3vo. That is all that needs be said.
I will stick with it. I am very satisified with the improvements root or not and i do not see anything much better coming out for quite some time. After testing many different android phones I can say this one has the best battery and features and i have tried many out from the G1, mytouch, hero, droid, evo4g, epic, thunderbolt, nexus s 4g. No phone is by any means perfect out of the box. It all comes down to if it works for you and gets you through the day.
27 days & counting. It is a great phone & a nice improvement from the original Evo but I can't see going any significant time without root. Plus I pretty much had my eye set on the GSII anyway. Figured I wouldn't loose anything from trying this out for at least 30 days.
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mine went back today. too many little issues aside from locked bootloader.
and btw... sprint is trying to charge existing customers $35 restocking fee to return the EVO3D. you can get it credited back if you know who to call and ask for it
Only a few hours in but it already seems like a keeper to me. I like the improvements made and the only thing I miss so far is the hotspot unlocked. Even without root it's a really good phone so far. Kinda like the Evo's big brother.
Root will happen its just a matter of when. I got the phone Friday and i got to admit I was somewhat let down. After having it all weekend and it now being monday, I will not be going back to 4G. The 4G phone was probably one of the most enjoyable phones I have ever owned. Not 1 single complaint about it. But this phone has so much more potential. There are a few things I don't like such as charging port location, no seperate hdmi, but I can live with it. This phone is definately more advanced than the og evo. And i will always have a place in my heart for my beloved 4G but i am keeping this one.
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..and thanks to threads like these, HTC just read it and decided, "Oh well Unlocking the bootloader isn't that urgent."
/wrists
Every launch phone usually has issues why do people expect them to always be perfect. IPhone couldn't send mms until like 2 years after it launched LOL. Hope some take it back and the sgs2 let's them dwn like all samsungs phones usually do.
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I very specifically did not over-accesorize this phone, because while at the moment I'm enjoying the phone as it sits......There's no way I can keep this thing for 22 months without being able to theme it and flash custom roms.
Good news,
@Preludedrew has gotten ICS booted up on the touchpad
This makes the touchpad sale tomorrow that much better.
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good to see
this looks EXACTLY like the pictures from the CM7A2 thread on rw with fattire...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3477-rel...cyanogenmod-team-touchpad-port/page__st__6650
and this was..nearlly a month ago.. lookin at your screen indicates that the same error "still" occurs..which probably means, whoever it is you said "he/she" got ICS running just went ahead and redid fattires whole process just to end up with the same result?
Or he just followed his steps..
Either way.. it's no real progress, is it?
Puenos said:
this looks EXACTLY like the pictures from the CM7A2 thread on rw with fattire...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3477-rel...cyanogenmod-team-touchpad-port/page__st__6650
and this was..nearlly a month ago.. lookin at your screen indicates that the same error "still" occurs..which probably means, whoever it is you said "he/she" got ICS running just went ahead and redid fattires whole process just to end up with the same result?
Or he just followed his steps..
Either way.. it's no real progress, is it?
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Was about to say, couple weeks late. Good to see devs outside of CM advancing none the less.
weird, i contacted prelude last week about working on it with me. he said he was waiting for source from CM.
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Was about to say, couple weeks late. Good to see devs outside of CM advancing none the less.
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sure it is.. just questioned his work
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weird, i contacted prelude last week about working on it with me. he said he was waiting for source from CM.
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from his tweets it looks to me that he's not that much into cooperating, especially with CM and their work?
"preludedrew :
This is annoying > Coincidence or not, CM pulled the ICS branch for the HP tp kernel, after i tweeted/talked about getting ICS booting"
I highly doubt that they'd just pull because someone else showed he's also working on the same thing.. seems kinda stupid to me..
May I ask for reference regarding prelude? Haven't read anything from him?
and I still believe it's kinda suspicious that both attempts beside CM's show the same error.. wonder what's causing this
also it seems that his way of booting ICS doesnt really differ from fattires?
But I'm no dev after all
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sure it is.. just questioned his work
from his tweets it looks to me that he's not that much into cooperating, especially with CM and their work?
"preludedrew :
This is annoying > Coincidence or not, CM pulled the ICS branch for the HP tp kernel, after i tweeted/talked about getting ICS booting"
I highly doubt that they'd just pull because someone else showed he's also working on the same thing.. seems kinda stupid to me..
May I ask for reference regarding prelude? Haven't read anything from him?
and I still believe it's kinda suspicious that both attempts beside CM's show the same error.. wonder what's causing this
also it seems that his way of booting ICS doesnt really differ from fattires?
But I'm no dev after all
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Gotcha now. I just hit him up. He's good about working with Xron. Maybe he will let me in and help.
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i dont fully know what ics is really..
i know that i will want it and
i know smart ppl when i see em.
im appreciate time / energy / resources you devote.
i will follow this..
if this post is inappropriate.. sorry and please delete..
i dont mean to clutter atall
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Gotcha now. I just hit him up. He's good about working with Xron. Maybe he will let me in and help.
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Now that's what I call good news!
Good to hear. After your great work on the TouchPad I'm positive you guys could bring something great to the community again
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i dont fully know what ics is really..
i know that i will want it and
i know smart ppl when i see em.
im appreciate time / energy / resources you devote.
i will follow this..
if this post is inappropriate.. sorry and please delete..
i dont mean to clutter atall
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ICS aka Ice Cream Sandwich is the next iteration of Android (4.x) after 3.x Honeycomb which brings together tablet & phone.
not much there left to know besides technological aspects in detail..?
ics will get us running a tablet version of android rather than a phone version. say hello to proper tablet apps!
Shrew said:
Good news,
@Preludedrew has gotten ICS booted up on the touchpad
This makes the touchpad sale tomorrow that much better.
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What sale and where?
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What sale and where?
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hp was selling refurbished TPs on ebay today at 7:00 EST. Done deal.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10940-to...on™-dalingrin/page__view__findpost__p__274605
dalingrin wrote on 06 December 2011:
Folks that want near perfect Android support and faster updates probably should have gotten a tablet thats actually meant to run Android to begin with.
Oh and I'm posting this from ICS on the Touchpad ;p
Still very buggy. No UI accel, even worse wifi, no market(due to network issues), no video playback, no audio, etc.
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So, the CM team is rocking too. Only thing i don't like is that all of the developers are not working together.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10940-to...on™-dalingrin/page__view__findpost__p__274605
dalingrin wrote on 06 December 2011:
So, the CM team is rocking too. Only thing i don't like is that all of the developers are not working together.
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cyanogen always keeps their work to themselves until they feel comfortable releasing it. It's just how they run. They can do whatever the hell they want to, they pretty much dominate the android development scene.
Great news to hear about all of this development on the touchpad. I am thankful to everyone in the community that has worked so hard to bring us android to the touchpad.
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Great news to hear about all of this development on the touchpad. I am thankful to everyone in the community that has worked so hard to bring us android to the touchpad.
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Same here. This is exactly what makes Android so great.
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Same here. This is exactly what makes Android so great.
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+1
I love android so much and I am running alpha 3 on my TP. I do love webos to though so I wish we could run android apparently within webos.
More drama... c'mon guys let's be patient... all devs just has half-working ports on native android devices
Running Alpha 3 also but cant figure out the wifi looping thing. Cant stop it. So I really cant wait for this. WebOs is so far good for browsing and email and i like the layers but not enough for me. Thanks a Devs!
Are there any ICS CDMA ROMs or ROM/Kernel combos that aren't having the data bug? (I know about the toggling airplane mode on/off several times workaround) I was running the CM9 alpha using stock kernel and I missed a few important phone calls one evening about a month ago. I haven't really looked around since. (Functional camera is a non-issue since my camera is busted.)
Miui V4 data was working right out of the gate and I don't remember having too many issues with signal/data with that ROM.
I'm on good 'ol CM7 for now for stability and battery life.
EDIT: the stock kernel works fine, or you can use Taimat's newest one for the EVO 3D CDMA (do a quick Google search). I was running AnthraX as well at one point.
I have been using toastcfh's new CM9 build for a couple of hours now, and I haven't seen any dropouts of 3G. I would get them all the time in other builds. Of course only time will tell, but it looks good so far. I also agree with G.Newton, MIUIv4 has not had the 3G problem that I am aware of, and I ran that for a few weeks.
Thanks guys. I guess I'll check into MIUI 4. What's Toast's newest CM9 build?
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I flashed MIUI v4, rebooted once and data was gone. Here's to Nandroid... I guess I'll just wait for the Nexus to launch.
Really? That's weird. But here is the link to toast's new build.
Edit: link removed. Sorry, not mine to give out.
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How recent is that build?
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Build date is Monday the 5th.
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The last time I ran CM9 was beginning of February. I may give the most recent a go. I'm starting to get a little frustrated, as I'm sure we all are.
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The last time I ran CM9 was beginning of February. I may give the most recent a go. I'm starting to get a little frustrated, as I'm sure we all are.
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Frustrated with what?
The fact that the Sensation, despite being "less of a phone" than ours, is getting more love from HTC, HTC is being doucheboxes about releasing updates or source for the updates we already have, Chad got trolled almost completely out of existance, etc. I was developmentally spoiled because I came from the OG EVO and it just seems like HTC is taking a piss on the owners of the 3D.
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The fact that the Sensation, despite being "less of a phone" than ours, is getting more love from HTC, HTC is being doucheboxes about releasing updates or source for the updates we already have, Chad got trolled almost completely out of existance, etc. I was developmentally spoiled because I came from the OG EVO and it just seems like HTC is taking a piss on the owners of the 3D.
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Are you a dev? I think those are the only people that have the right to get frustrated. We are given all roms, mods, tools, kernels, etc for FREE. If HTC is slow to release source so what, are you going to dev on the source? Sounds like you're frustrated because a new ROM isn't put out every few days. With what we have, our devs have accomplished A LOT. If you bought the 3D (or any phone) for dev support.. HA. You should buy a phone if you like it just the way it is, and any development on it is just icing on the cake. HTC will release source/update in due time. In the meantime, patience. I'm sorry that you were spoiled but please don't complain about **** we already know.
Wow. You done? You made plenty of assumptions there without asking any questions or seeking more information and then blasted me for being frustrated at a phone while also insinuating that I am ungrateful toward developers. I don't expect anything from the developers, given they're clearly working with no support from HTC, and I know they give away their ROMs/mods/kernels/etc while asking for nothing in return. I do expect, however, to not be belittled by somebody for expressing a feeling. Thanks for your insight bro.
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People are forgetting what message boards are for. It's for voicing opinions, providing information, heck anything. Who isn't frustrated with HTC right now? That's one reason why these forums exist so we can vent our frustrations with HTC and see what we can do to put pressure on them. I get so tired of people saying "keep it to yourself" because if that was the case, this site's traffic would greatly reduce and trust me, I know xda doesn't want that. Now I do agree that complaining about devs shouldn't be done period.
Now, back to the topic at hand. I can confirm that the latest toashcfh build of CM9 with the stock kernel does not appear to have the data bug I initially asked about.
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Now, back to the topic at hand. I can confirm that the latest toashcfh build of CM9 with the stock kernel does not appear to have the data bug I initially asked about.
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Lot of good things said about that build. Sorry man, but you said the keywords "developmentally spoiled" and proceeded with a frustrated comparison to the Evo 3G. That sounds like complaining, but no need for me to have gone there with ya brah. Yes, we, especially the devs are all frustrated.
We as the consumer want the update free and fast, while HTC needs to make money therefore they like it slow. A good business relationship is a middle ground between HTC and the end-consumer.
If data and signal cuts out ever, and toggling doesn't work, *#*#4636#*#* > Phone info > change radio and you should have signal. Then toggling brings back data.
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Really? That's weird. But here is the link to toast's new build.
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Remove that link or else you'll get in trouble.
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Its funny that when I first bought the phone alot of people on Xda were saying how slow and laggy it was and I was starting to regret my purchase but a couple of weeks later and im thinking to myself how fast my phone is. I guess what Im trying to say is if you want to buy a Note go ahead and do so and see for yourself if its laggy dont just take others words for it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
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Its funny that when I first bought the phone alot of people on Xda were saying how slow and laggy it was and I was starting to regret my purchase but a couple of weeks later and im thinking to myself how fast my phone is. I guess what Im trying to say is if you want to buy a Note go ahead and do so and see for yourself if its laggy dont just take others words for it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
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I disagree I went from the Skyrocket and my Note was a lot slower and really laggy. I just swapped my Note for another one today and WOW this new one I got today is totally different. It is just as smooth and fast as my Skyrocket. If anybody is having performance issues you need to get it swapped out ASAP you will wish you had sooner.
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That's not really so funny.
I also came from the Skyrocket and initially thought the Note was fast. Than I came on Xda and alot of user were reporting on how slow their phones were. Than I started noticing lag every where. Now after not thinking about it for awhile I dont notice the lag anymore. So my point is that by others saying how bad it was I started seeing the same0, whether it was there or not.
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After freezing half a dozen bloat apps I found my Note was running much nicer. Stock rom, rooted.
khaytsus said:
After freezing half a dozen bloat apps I found my Note was running much nicer. Stock rom, rooted.
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which apps did you freeze?
The phone running slow isn't a hardware problem..
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just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
AllGamer said:
just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
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Stock rom is fine. Just various bugs in various notes.
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Thremix said:
which apps did you freeze?
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AT&T apps (nav, hotspots, a few others shown running), ****ty (city) id, some samsung social crap.. Maybe a few more..
Welcome to ****ty wok can I take your ****ty order. ^_^
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I have the note, although it is the international version.
When I first got it, it had just a little lag here and there. I don't use touchwiz, I use go launcher. I've had 4 updates, now at 2.36, LB2 and this last update (got it Thursday night) made this thing smooth with ZERO lag. Even scrolling apps in the app drawer, which, would lag for maybe 1-2 flips, then smooth out, is smooth as
silk with zero lag.
I lost root some time back, so it isn't a root issue, but perhaps on the at&t version it has to do with the bloat apps that run all the time?
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just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
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okay not bashing here so dont take this wrong but I'm just trying to wrap my head around this statement, so you pay $300+ for your device but dont expect stock ROM performance to be any good?...seriously? I dont understand why someone wouldn't of course, and if it did underperform (mine runs fine) as a consumer you have every right to take it back. I think alot of people lose sight of the fact that it's still a PHONE that can now do amazing things that you would not have had the luxury of just a few short years back. And granted, the awesome development we enjoy through these forums does improve quality and enjoyment value of these devices to the point of maybe spoiling us as advanced users, but remember the vast majority of consumers of these devices are typical users and to them (and me) the Note on GB/Touchwiz although not a perfect machine is still an amazing device right "out of the box".
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okay not bashing here but just trying to wrap my head around this statement, so pay $300+ for your device but dont expect stock performance to be good?...seriously I dont understand why someone wouldn't, and if it did underperform (mine runs fine) as a consumer you have every right to take it back. I think alot of people lose sight of the fact that it's still a PHONE that can now do amazing things that you would not have had the luxury of just a few short years back. Note on GB/Touchwiz a not a perfect machine but still an amazing device.
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It is an amazing device but the Carrier$ load it down with u$ele$$ and unnece$$ary $oftware to $queeze more money from you. In the process the Bloatware DOES in fact hinder the performance as they run even when you don't launch them yourself. By getting rid of the bloatware you are unleashing the true potential of this beast of a phone.
Think of it this way... If you bought say a Subaru WRX STi and when you went to go pick it up and it had a bunch of useless Car Dealer stickons and random crap that hindered the performance, you are saying you wouldn't be upset ?
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It is an amazing device but the Carrier$ load it down with u$ele$$ and unnece$$ary $oftware to $queeze more money from you. In the process the Bloatware DOES in fact hinder the performance as they run even when you don't launch them yourself. By getting rid of the bloatware you are unleashing the true potential of this beast of a phone.
Think of it this way... If you bought say a Subaru WRX STi and when you went to go pick it up and it had a bunch of useless Car Dealer stickons and random crap that hindered the performance, you are saying you wouldn't be upset ?
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point taken...but you have to agree that the Devs do spoil us a bit!
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point taken...but you have to agree that the Devs do spoil us a bit!
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Very true. I'd probably be using an iphone if it weren't for the DEVs here. Sad that we need them to unlock the full potential of our devices. We also get better support from them than the companies that make them. A great example of that is the HP Touchpad.
Support your local DEVs. I do so by adding to their beer/coffee funds. Coffee is better as it keeps them up longer to work on things
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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I don't quite understand. You don't have to flash, customize, or tinker with your phone at all. How much time you spend doing this is up to you. The phone works fine out of the box which is what you'll get with iPhone. If you want to get rid of bloat, then root it and remove the stuff you don't want.
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neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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Solution might be to find a ROM and stay with it, keep in mind flashing and or using custom ROMs are not for everyone, if you enjoy learning and bettering your knowledge and device well then it's the ticket for you, but if you find things are not working for you and you have hard time understanding, then maybe flashing custom ROMs are not your game...
There is nothing wrong with staying Stock and or Stock straight out of the box, as stated some have found that best for them.
Thank You.
Just go with iPhone we done anybody waffling back and forth. Goodbye!
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I would never consider an iPhone as an option...
That being said, I have always had issues with Paranoid Android... either on my Note and on my Nexus S. I would suggest the ROM in my signature. I love it. Lots of features, stable and smooth. But in the end, everyone tries many ROMs before settling one one that works best for them. Happy flashing!
I'll give a bunny to anyone that helps.
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I really don't want to get an iPhone again. I got rid of the 4S 64GB factory unlocked. It's like an ipod with some phone functionality, meaning I cant use it for much. I have Tmobile and this particular phone for various reasons and the root is very necessary.
I would prefer someone help. It's obvious something I'm flashing or how I am flashing it is borking the phones. Most likely the latter.
Wipe cache, wipe system, wipe Dalvik before flashing. Or follow the instructions on the ROM page's first few posts.
Bye crapple
@dubsteps what signature? There isn't one showing on your posts.
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Drama queen. No one told you that you need to flash ROMs. Get the iPhone and please go "complain" on the iPhone forums. Roms are free and devs are taking their "own" time out of their personal lives to make em. If you can't be thankful, you don't deserve to be here.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
No way I'd ever go to an iPhone again. I don't like being told what I am allowed to do with something I bought. Don't get me started on that though. IPhone is what you use until you know better, kinda like people used to use AOL until they learned more about the internet. We have several nice ROMs to pick from
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I don't know. I've flashed a number of the ROMs on here. I just followed the directions as stated and haven't had any issues. Maybe it's cause you're on t-mobile.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32446180&postcount=7
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dubsteps said:
I would never consider an iPhone as an option...
That being said, I have always had issues with Paranoid Android... either on my Note and on my Nexus S. I would suggest the ROM in my signature. I love it. Lots of features, stable and smooth. But in the end, everyone tries many ROMs before settling one one that works best for them. Happy flashing!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32443042#post32443042
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If or phone is sluggish mayb or not doing good action to it. Try starting from 0 that helps that means Odin the stock GB to the phone e and yes ull loose everything u have in our internal SD so back up. IPhone never they should put iphone 5/Apple prohibited. I love how my phone performs. Running jb toooo
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I had one many years ago, and i dont want another one
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Never owned an iphone, never will. Last apple i bought was the first 30gb video ipod. Itunes sucked ass, never went back.
Id go back to a blackberry before apple.
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neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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If it is final one....then make it such.
We do not need more childish crying... do we?
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I got the old one on stock rom stock recovery. Its the same, very unresponsive. It takes 5 minutes just to set the language on the att start screens. The other phone is balking at connections with odin, im trying to put in only a bootloader and its got a green bar but the big area says BOOT is not changing color yet, like its at the last step and it stopped. Its odin 1.85 since the newer ones seemed worse.
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I got the old phone going, I think its fixed! I flashed the stock rom via odin thats on the forums. I used stock recovery to clear a couple caches. Then flashed cwm standard, from march or so, I used it to clear everything possible except sd card which was recently formatted as well but it has roms now. I flashed a nice safe collective mesosphere seraphim ics rom and its snappy and responsive. I think there is something wrong with some newer things, I dont know what, but I had no problems before I started with JB. fyi, bricking two phones is not normal for me.
The new phone wont talk to odin so it'll sit for a minute.
Going no where with this, so...
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