is it ime for an iPhone 5? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.

neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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I don't quite understand. You don't have to flash, customize, or tinker with your phone at all. How much time you spend doing this is up to you. The phone works fine out of the box which is what you'll get with iPhone. If you want to get rid of bloat, then root it and remove the stuff you don't want.
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neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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Solution might be to find a ROM and stay with it, keep in mind flashing and or using custom ROMs are not for everyone, if you enjoy learning and bettering your knowledge and device well then it's the ticket for you, but if you find things are not working for you and you have hard time understanding, then maybe flashing custom ROMs are not your game...
There is nothing wrong with staying Stock and or Stock straight out of the box, as stated some have found that best for them.
Thank You.

Just go with iPhone we done anybody waffling back and forth. Goodbye!
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I would never consider an iPhone as an option...
That being said, I have always had issues with Paranoid Android... either on my Note and on my Nexus S. I would suggest the ROM in my signature. I love it. Lots of features, stable and smooth. But in the end, everyone tries many ROMs before settling one one that works best for them. Happy flashing!

I'll give a bunny to anyone that helps.
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I really don't want to get an iPhone again. I got rid of the 4S 64GB factory unlocked. It's like an ipod with some phone functionality, meaning I cant use it for much. I have Tmobile and this particular phone for various reasons and the root is very necessary.
I would prefer someone help. It's obvious something I'm flashing or how I am flashing it is borking the phones. Most likely the latter.

Wipe cache, wipe system, wipe Dalvik before flashing. Or follow the instructions on the ROM page's first few posts.

Bye crapple

@dubsteps what signature? There isn't one showing on your posts.
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Drama queen. No one told you that you need to flash ROMs. Get the iPhone and please go "complain" on the iPhone forums. Roms are free and devs are taking their "own" time out of their personal lives to make em. If you can't be thankful, you don't deserve to be here.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"

No way I'd ever go to an iPhone again. I don't like being told what I am allowed to do with something I bought. Don't get me started on that though. IPhone is what you use until you know better, kinda like people used to use AOL until they learned more about the internet. We have several nice ROMs to pick from
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I don't know. I've flashed a number of the ROMs on here. I just followed the directions as stated and haven't had any issues. Maybe it's cause you're on t-mobile.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32446180&postcount=7
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I would never consider an iPhone as an option...
That being said, I have always had issues with Paranoid Android... either on my Note and on my Nexus S. I would suggest the ROM in my signature. I love it. Lots of features, stable and smooth. But in the end, everyone tries many ROMs before settling one one that works best for them. Happy flashing!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32443042#post32443042
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If or phone is sluggish mayb or not doing good action to it. Try starting from 0 that helps that means Odin the stock GB to the phone e and yes ull loose everything u have in our internal SD so back up. IPhone never they should put iphone 5/Apple prohibited. I love how my phone performs. Running jb toooo
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I had one many years ago, and i dont want another one
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Never owned an iphone, never will. Last apple i bought was the first 30gb video ipod. Itunes sucked ass, never went back.
Id go back to a blackberry before apple.
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neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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If it is final one....then make it such.
We do not need more childish crying... do we?
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I got the old one on stock rom stock recovery. Its the same, very unresponsive. It takes 5 minutes just to set the language on the att start screens. The other phone is balking at connections with odin, im trying to put in only a bootloader and its got a green bar but the big area says BOOT is not changing color yet, like its at the last step and it stopped. Its odin 1.85 since the newer ones seemed worse.
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I got the old phone going, I think its fixed! I flashed the stock rom via odin thats on the forums. I used stock recovery to clear a couple caches. Then flashed cwm standard, from march or so, I used it to clear everything possible except sd card which was recently formatted as well but it has roms now. I flashed a nice safe collective mesosphere seraphim ics rom and its snappy and responsive. I think there is something wrong with some newer things, I dont know what, but I had no problems before I started with JB. fyi, bricking two phones is not normal for me.
The new phone wont talk to odin so it'll sit for a minute.

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Starting to lose faith on development...

:-( If there was even a slight hint of hope regarding custom kernels and full bootloader unlock (without losing 4G), I know the devs would have already said so. Come September 16th, I'm getting the SGSII and my MoPho will be handed down to my son. Still a GREAT phone but development for it is still much to be desired. Want to flame? Go ahead, feel free. Still won't change the grim reality.
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LOL! Just for fun. I hope you are wrong, but I think you might be right.
I came from the 3-d and wow, your right not much going on here. I am going to stick it out a while longer though and see if anything starts to burst.
Sadly...
I am starting to think that this may be as good as it gets.
Just run launcher 7 and pretend you're actually running wp7; thats why i do
This phone stock is the best experience ive EVER had on a stock phone. Im happy!
Ok thanks?
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i warned yall that once teh sgs2 drops it will get even slower around these parts, shame too cuz this is a really nice phone.. just piss poor timing on sprints part.. not a huge surprise really coming from them. hell they had announced teh epic and sent it out to everyone and it wasnt until reviews came out that they threw up an ad having it alongside the evo
After owning the EVO all of last year I got over needing to flash a new ROM every few days. Stock is running so well for me I don't really care. We will get AOSP ported it will just be a matter of time. I would be tickled if MIUI got ported thereafter.
Once android.git.kernel.org comes back online I'm going to start porting CyanogenMod lol... I can't do any development if I can't get source code. And I'm not paying $200 for a new phone when the MoPho was only $100 and has >= specs.
Shut the hell up with all this complaining will get you know were in life. Suck it up and learn to be patient.. they will come..
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Do we even know who os working on anything? Is jugs or calkin still working on stuff?
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I agree... patiences. IMO This phone rocks just on stock. But I trust aaht once things settle we will see more action here with dev. Better to have stable roms than things pouring out just because.
If not im happy.
HondaCop said:
:-( If there was even a slight hint of hope regarding custom kernels and full bootloader unlock (without losing 4G), I know the devs would have already said so. Come September 16th, I'm getting the SGSII and my MoPho will be handed down to my son. Still a GREAT phone but development for it is still much to be desired. Want to flame? Go ahead, feel free. Still won't change the grim reality.
Sent from my stale MoPho...
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Wow the Photon source code just got released last week on 8/30 and you are complaining about not having development done on the Photon? You must not have done development before because it takes lots of time and effort to test out all bugs. Also I would say 95% of the devs that do this are not doing this full time for a living but rather on their free time. Also the Photon has made huge progress without the source code in its first month including 1) root with docking station 2) root without docking station 3) unlocked bootloader when the stock bootloader is locked. What more do you expect right now.
Just be patient and wait a couple more weeks for things to come up. If you want to get the SGSII because you think all of a sudden there will be more support then be my guest. There is no secret that the devs need the source code before they can modify anything. With the SGSII coming out it'll be a while before the source code is released. You'll see how foolish this is.
mrinehart93 said:
Once android.git.kernel.org comes back online I'm going to start porting CyanogenMod lol... I can't do any development if I can't get source code. And I'm not paying $200 for a new phone when the MoPho was only $100 and has >= specs.
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I remember when you attempted to port webos to hero lol. I ran your roms on my heroc; you're a great dev man!! I hope you can do what you did on my heroc to the photon...
Every time I get a new phone, the first thing I do is install GoSMS, GoLauncher, and GoDialer. With this phone the only non blur app I use is GoLauncher. And the only reason I use it is because I like my app drawer organized into folders, and a 5x6 grid layout. This phone is as close to perfect out of the box as I thought was possible. And everything I don't like, they have an app to change. Just my 2 cents.
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Coming from the Evo-shift... this is blazing fast. I'm having trouble keeping up. We didn't get root for at least a full month.
We better settle for enjoying the stock experience.
This phone will be the red headed stepchild. I like the stock experience, sans the bugs. We should accept it or get something else.
HondaCop said:
:-( If there was even a slight hint of hope regarding custom kernels and full bootloader unlock (without losing 4G), I know the devs would have already said so. Come September 16th, I'm getting the SGSII and my MoPho will be handed down to my son. Still a GREAT phone but development for it is still much to be desired. Want to flame? Go ahead, feel free. Still won't change the grim reality.
People like you are going to chase development away. They do this for a hobby. Not to please you. Who wants to work hard in their free time just to be complained about, rushed for eta's. Help out, not sit there and rush people so you can leach off there hard work. I hope you get your epic touch..... Good riddance.
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HondaCop said:
:-( If there was even a slight hint of hope regarding custom kernels and full bootloader unlock (without losing 4G), I know the devs would have already said so. Come September 16th, I'm getting the SGSII and my MoPho will be handed down to my son. Still a GREAT phone but development for it is still much to be desired. Want to flame? Go ahead, feel free. Still won't change the grim reality.
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You pay a lot of money for your phone plan (as do we all) so you should have a device you are happy with. If that is the SGS2, than go for it.
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After owning the EVO all of last year I got over needing to flash a new ROM every few days. Stock is running so well for me I don't really care. We will get AOSP ported it will just be a matter of time. I would be tickled if MIUI got ported thereafter.
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+1 My thoughts exactly.
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Do we even know who os working on anything? Is jugs or calkin still working on stuff?
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Would be nice to know. Wish peeps would just check in from time to time just to let us know they are still around.

Whats up with the notification bar?

I have no clue why or who ever in Samsung development messed this up, but when you stream flash videos in full screen the notification does not auto hide. To me this is completely unacceptable as it ruins the possibility of "full screen" and it can actually damage the oled in these phones.
I think this fix should be a MUST for any developer currently making rooms for this phone. The only from currently that I know of that fixes it is Cyanogen.. but I do want a stable ICS and oh boy can't we all dream of a perfect aosp from... dreams of super fast clean friendly user experience...
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They are still beta builds so stop moaning until we get official roms.
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I think this fix should be a MUST for any developer currently making rooms for this phone.
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And you feel that you can issue demands to the devs because...?? Why are you so special?
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms? The only thing I'm wondering is why has this not been addressed by the community? Why is this still "OK" and why are trolls immediately the only ones present in this forum?
There's a Q&A for ya..
Its funny how you think my suggestion is un warranted. I just desperately want to ruin my phone with burn in right?
It's not your suggestion, it's your attitude.
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Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms? The only thing I'm wondering is why has this not been addressed by the community? Why is this still "OK" and why are trolls immediately the only ones present in this forum?
There's a Q&A for ya..
Its funny how you think my suggestion is un warranted. I just desperately want to ruin my phone with burn in right?
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AS said above, it looks like your are running ICS which is in beta and has not been officially released, you are complaining about an unfinished, unofficially released BETA rom.
You may need some time of reflection and a lot of reading to understand what you are doing......
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms?
You answer your question yourself why build a rom based on a half assed buggy beta release .
Put in a very simple way . Why waste time on a buggy beta build that may be very different come release day .
When ICS is released and if a dev thinks its worth fixing your problem i am sure they will .
jje
OK it sounds like no one understood , I will attempt to explain this better. This is NOT an ICS problem this problem is with EVERY rom including stock update strait from Kies. I went as far as contacting Samsung to get a fix, but as you can see in my profile I live in the US and the US Samsung will not help me with my UK phone. Why everything between us is so divided beats me but still the issue remains.
As I stated currently the only rom that fixes it is Cyanogen but just as JJ stated why use a buggy beta when the release will be much different/better. Also I am currently running ICS and have not encountered a single bug. Everything works perfect except for Samsung's stupid attempt to burn in my screen. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $580 for this phone and the last thing I want is a permanent" 3g" on my screen...
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OK it sounds like no one understood , I will attempt to explain this better. This is NOT an ICS problem this problem is with EVERY rom including stock update strait from Kies. I went as far as contacting Samsung to get a fix, but as you can see in my profile I live in the US and the US Samsung will not help me with my UK phone. Why everything between us is so divided beats me but still the issue remains.
As I stated currently the only rom that fixes it is Cyanogen but just as JJ stated why use a buggy beta when the release will be much different/better. Also I am currently running ICS and have not encountered a single bug. Everything works perfect except for Samsung's stupid attempt to burn in my screen. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $580 for this phone and the last thing I want is a permanent" 3g" on my screen...
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Then give us more information. Saying that streaming videos don't go full screen is no where near enough. What ROM, website, browser etc are you using because the last time I tried this (Not long after the S2 was released) it worked just fine. I tried a 720p video from megaupload and it went full screen just fine. Same with youtube/youtube app. Give more information, not attitude. Also, i'd wager than there is zero chance of your display burning in a 3G icon. Perhaps the full notification bar if you use MIUI/a white or light theme but I highly doubt the majority of people will experience any burn in, never mind such a small specific burn in.
Fair enough.. more info. I usually run completely stock and decided to play around with ics. A main site I stream with is twitch.TV (I am a big starcraft2 player and use the pro streams to get better) while I'm at work I watch for hours sometimes 7 hours straight. This WILL cause burn in.
When the problem occurs:
Watching ANY true flash video online(not YouTube app) while in full screen mode in any browser or Rom besides cyanogen.
If you don't believe me test it yourself. Go to twitch.TV pick a stream let the video load and click the full screen button. If you have a rom that the notification bar disappears let me know and you won't hear.me "moan" anymore.
Or maybe one of you super nice Brits can call UK Samsung and get an official fix. The number is 08702420303.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197496
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Does this work on the new ICS browser? I only see 2.xx on there. It would be a beneficial trade but I just started enjoying the new browser :/
airninja6r said:
Does this work on the new ICS browser? I only see 2.xx on there. It would be a beneficial trade but I just started enjoying the new browser :/
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Download the diff, check for relevant changes (there's not many for fullscreen) and mod your own browser. Before you ask, I'm not going to hold your hand on this one, and am not willing to do it for you either (I don't use an ICS ROM).
Not asking for any hand holding or hand outs for that matter.. one last question can it be done completely from the phone?
Actually nvm that browser mod will not work with ics. Even states in that post "should be comparable with 2.3.x roms.
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Actually nvm that browser mod will not work with ics.
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Sure it will, you just have to be willing to put in some work. Namely, as I already said, downloading the diff, checking for relevant changes (I think there's only two changes relating to full screen) and getting them into your Browser.apk. You're probably going to need to do some reading.
Judging by this part of your post:
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one last question can it be done completely from the phone?
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I'm going to make a guess you won't bother with this.

Its funny

Its funny that when I first bought the phone alot of people on Xda were saying how slow and laggy it was and I was starting to regret my purchase but a couple of weeks later and im thinking to myself how fast my phone is. I guess what Im trying to say is if you want to buy a Note go ahead and do so and see for yourself if its laggy dont just take others words for it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
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Its funny that when I first bought the phone alot of people on Xda were saying how slow and laggy it was and I was starting to regret my purchase but a couple of weeks later and im thinking to myself how fast my phone is. I guess what Im trying to say is if you want to buy a Note go ahead and do so and see for yourself if its laggy dont just take others words for it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
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I disagree I went from the Skyrocket and my Note was a lot slower and really laggy. I just swapped my Note for another one today and WOW this new one I got today is totally different. It is just as smooth and fast as my Skyrocket. If anybody is having performance issues you need to get it swapped out ASAP you will wish you had sooner.
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That's not really so funny.
I also came from the Skyrocket and initially thought the Note was fast. Than I came on Xda and alot of user were reporting on how slow their phones were. Than I started noticing lag every where. Now after not thinking about it for awhile I dont notice the lag anymore. So my point is that by others saying how bad it was I started seeing the same0, whether it was there or not.
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After freezing half a dozen bloat apps I found my Note was running much nicer. Stock rom, rooted.
khaytsus said:
After freezing half a dozen bloat apps I found my Note was running much nicer. Stock rom, rooted.
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which apps did you freeze?
The phone running slow isn't a hardware problem..
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just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
AllGamer said:
just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
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Stock rom is fine. Just various bugs in various notes.
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Thremix said:
which apps did you freeze?
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AT&T apps (nav, hotspots, a few others shown running), ****ty (city) id, some samsung social crap.. Maybe a few more..
Welcome to ****ty wok can I take your ****ty order. ^_^
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I have the note, although it is the international version.
When I first got it, it had just a little lag here and there. I don't use touchwiz, I use go launcher. I've had 4 updates, now at 2.36, LB2 and this last update (got it Thursday night) made this thing smooth with ZERO lag. Even scrolling apps in the app drawer, which, would lag for maybe 1-2 flips, then smooth out, is smooth as
silk with zero lag.
I lost root some time back, so it isn't a root issue, but perhaps on the at&t version it has to do with the bloat apps that run all the time?
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just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
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okay not bashing here so dont take this wrong but I'm just trying to wrap my head around this statement, so you pay $300+ for your device but dont expect stock ROM performance to be any good?...seriously? I dont understand why someone wouldn't of course, and if it did underperform (mine runs fine) as a consumer you have every right to take it back. I think alot of people lose sight of the fact that it's still a PHONE that can now do amazing things that you would not have had the luxury of just a few short years back. And granted, the awesome development we enjoy through these forums does improve quality and enjoyment value of these devices to the point of maybe spoiling us as advanced users, but remember the vast majority of consumers of these devices are typical users and to them (and me) the Note on GB/Touchwiz although not a perfect machine is still an amazing device right "out of the box".
erad1 said:
okay not bashing here but just trying to wrap my head around this statement, so pay $300+ for your device but dont expect stock performance to be good?...seriously I dont understand why someone wouldn't, and if it did underperform (mine runs fine) as a consumer you have every right to take it back. I think alot of people lose sight of the fact that it's still a PHONE that can now do amazing things that you would not have had the luxury of just a few short years back. Note on GB/Touchwiz a not a perfect machine but still an amazing device.
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It is an amazing device but the Carrier$ load it down with u$ele$$ and unnece$$ary $oftware to $queeze more money from you. In the process the Bloatware DOES in fact hinder the performance as they run even when you don't launch them yourself. By getting rid of the bloatware you are unleashing the true potential of this beast of a phone.
Think of it this way... If you bought say a Subaru WRX STi and when you went to go pick it up and it had a bunch of useless Car Dealer stickons and random crap that hindered the performance, you are saying you wouldn't be upset ?
kimocal said:
It is an amazing device but the Carrier$ load it down with u$ele$$ and unnece$$ary $oftware to $queeze more money from you. In the process the Bloatware DOES in fact hinder the performance as they run even when you don't launch them yourself. By getting rid of the bloatware you are unleashing the true potential of this beast of a phone.
Think of it this way... If you bought say a Subaru WRX STi and when you went to go pick it up and it had a bunch of useless Car Dealer stickons and random crap that hindered the performance, you are saying you wouldn't be upset ?
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point taken...but you have to agree that the Devs do spoil us a bit!
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point taken...but you have to agree that the Devs do spoil us a bit!
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Very true. I'd probably be using an iphone if it weren't for the DEVs here. Sad that we need them to unlock the full potential of our devices. We also get better support from them than the companies that make them. A great example of that is the HP Touchpad.
Support your local DEVs. I do so by adding to their beer/coffee funds. Coffee is better as it keeps them up longer to work on things
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Multitasking my ars!

So thanks to sprints slow 3g on my LTE I press pause while YouTube down loads. Oh look, I have a new text. I reply, I go back to YouTube, it started over. Wtf! I'm really thinking of trading back my og
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As awful as the backgrounding/task switching is on the EVO LTE, I'm pretty sure that's standard behavior with the YouTube app.
Have you done the multitask fix?
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Have you done the multitask fix?
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Hah thanks for the laugh xD
Anyway, I should have worded that differently: "Have you flashed a ROM that helps with the multitasking issue".
Most of them do, but if you don't want to flash a ROM some people reported that if you change the setting within developer options to 'At most 4 processes' for the background process limit it helps alleviate this issue.
This is by far my biggest problem with this phone. From what I've heard, stock ICS doesn't have the same issue.
Yeah, it pisses me off when I scroll through a list and go out of the window, ONLY to have that damn list reload back to the first item.
There HAS to be a way to get rid of that permanently if stock ICS phones don't have this problem?
Yeah, the multitasking is the only issue I have with this phone. Reminds me of the fail WP7 has with multitasking :/
Yeah a lot of the issues with this phone can only be alleviated through rooting it and flashing a custom rom. As I stated in another thread with my opinions of this phone and the pros/cons, this phone requires the user to root it in order to have a pleasurable experience.
Scaryghoul said:
Yeah a lot of the issues with this phone can only be alleviated through rooting it and flashing a custom rom. As I stated in another thread with my opinions of this phone and the pros/cons, this phone requires the user to root it in order to have a pleasurable experience.
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Which is really disappointing. We shouldn't have to root in order to get things like this to work properly. If HTC is going to place a button dedicated to a specific function on their phones, you'd think that function would actually work.
RudyP said:
Which is really disappointing. We shouldn't have to root in order to get things like this to work properly. If HTC is going to place a button dedicated to a specific function on their phones, you'd think that function would actually work.
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No one is arguing against it, we are merely providing solutions to the problem. Furthermore, if we want to nitpick the button isn't a 'multitasking' one, it simply brings up a recent apps list. That being said I do hope HTC fixes this. It seems to affect all the Sense 4.0 phones. I know the One X has this problem by simply looking at their forum and from what I tested the One S at T-Mobile while helping my parents get a new phone, it seems that the S also has the same problem.
Rooting and flashing roms hasn't fixed my multitasking issues..I think its a deeper sense issue..I've manually adjusted min free settings with no luck..so Im assuming that its Kernel related buried deep..its my only gripe with this otherwise perfect device..and some people actually like its killing of apps..although it doesn't seem to free up any extra ram ...edit - hasn't the issue been resolved with the att hox with an ota? I thought I saw that somewhere
Yep rooted and romed. I dont want to say which one because u don't think it matters. Non of it would bother me so much if my new phone wasn't slower than my old one. Kinda sucks to have full signal but can't load a Page, stick it in my pocket it becomes a hand warmer and the battery is dead next time I use it.
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Saneless One said:
As awful as the backgrounding/task switching is on the EVO LTE, I'm pretty sure that's standard behavior with the YouTube app.
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I thought this as well.... Iv always had YouTube app do this...
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The worst is when I play Sega's Sonic Adventure app or open up stumble upon and every single time I go back to the home screen, sense has to reload. I've never experienced that with my Xoom.
Are the ROMs effective at fixing the multitasking issue? That, ps3 bluetooth, and otg support would be the only major reasons I'd root my phone (maybe titanium backup too for contingency). I'm not root shy, my OG EVO was rooted two weeks after I got it, but, in the long run, everything seems more consistent when running completely stock, and I can pretty much find an app for everything I need.
Also, do you guys think that if we send in enough complaints that HTC would get its act together for the jelly bean update?
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Scaryghoul said:
Yeah a lot of the issues with this phone can only be alleviated through rooting it and flashing a custom rom. As I stated in another thread with my opinions of this phone and the pros/cons, this phone requires the user to root it in order to have a pleasurable experience.
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It looks like that's going to be the case, as you've said in your other posts. I've already gotten all the tools ready, and I'm going to do it the day I get it.
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Which is really disappointing. We shouldn't have to root in order to get things like this to work properly.
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You've just identified one of the most critical and key flaws with Android when it's provided by the carriers and not by Google themselves.
yamaford said:
Yep rooted and romed. I dont want to say which one because u don't think it matters. Non of it would bother me so much if my new phone wasn't slower than my old one. Kinda sucks to have full signal but can't load a Page, stick it in my pocket it becomes a hand warmer and the battery is dead next time I use it.
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Return it, get a Gnex on Verizon. Problem solved.
I'll also have to agree that rooting and. A custom rom still don't do much to alleviate the issue. Chrome still reloads every time I come back. It's baffling because we can blame it on sense, but sense has ALWAYS been bloated, but the evos before this didn't have such an issue. I was saying I didn't want a gsiii, but this may push me to get one
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I'll also have to agree that rooting and. A custom rom still don't do much to alleviate the issue. Chrome still reloads every time I come back. It's baffling because we can blame it on sense, but sense has ALWAYS been bloated, but the evos before this didn't have such an issue. I was saying I didn't want a gsiii, but this may push me to get one
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It's Sense 4.
greengoldmello said:
I'll also have to agree that rooting and. A custom rom still don't do much to alleviate the issue. Chrome still reloads every time I come back. It's baffling because we can blame it on sense, but sense has ALWAYS been bloated, but the evos before this didn't have such an issue. I was saying I didn't want a gsiii, but this may push me to get one
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I don't find sense 4 very bloated at all actually. When sense 4 was ported over to the Sensation, it didn't have this multitasking issue, which is leading me to believe that there will be a fix soon for it.

100% Satisfied After Installing CM9, Can't Imagine Upgrading To Note 2 Anytime Soon

Installed the official CM9 two nights ago and I really can't find anything more than nitpicking at this point. Sure the home screen transition is still not quite as smooth as my wife's iPhone 4, but it is smooth enough and all the apps/games I have tried are fast enough, battery life is also incredible as I got over 4 hours screen time on wifi for my first full charge.
I have compared my device against Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and there is no question the performance difference at this point is not worth the extra screen size to me. It is really amazing what a cohesive (no touchwiz dialer + ICS task manager mesh mash, CM9 is completely refined!) and bloat free experience CM9 is. Even the official ICS ROM after de-bloating still has too many Samsung applications for my taste.
More importantly, mobile phone applications are not desktop programs, you are not going to run Photoshop or Visual Studio on your Galaxy Note, you are not likely to play Crisis. I really believe dual core for mobile phone is very very similar to core 2 duo on desktops, that once you reach a certain level of performance, you just don't need any more upgrades. My wife and I both have 5 year old core 2 duo's and with a very modest Nvidia 9600 GT, I can still play most if not all of the mainstream games. Sure I can't play them at highest graphic details, but I can still enjoy Skyrim or Diablo 3.
I think the exact scenario is happening to mobile devices. All the top apps/games have to cater to the lowest common denominator, unless you are super hardcore, you will be satisfied. In the past people had to upgrade for performance, but I don't think it is the case anymore. I will wait out the full two year contract and pick up Note 2 when it is on sale for a discount, unless there is a hardware failure. And I think manufacturers will also see the same problem, that it will be harder and harder to get existing users to upgrade.
A big thank you to the developers! The Cyanogen team is amazing!
Im gonna be flashing tomorrow cm9 cant wait
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Ya, cm has always been nice. They usually have that extra bit of polish and professionalism. Aokp is decent too.
As far as buying new devices, there will always be people wanting to upgrade to the latest and greatest even if what they have is still completely adequate. Being an EE technology major, I'm one of those people who will buy new stuff just because I love technology. And Moore's law says it will keep getting better lol. If I can ever get a fng job, I'll definitely buy the note 2 if its awesome enough.
Everyone has computers, but most people never upgrade them to keep up with the times, they wait til they've crippled it after a few years then buy a new one. I've gotten so many nice computers that were "broken" from people, only to open them up, clean them out, reinstall whatever os I need and have it be perfectly fine for years. Usually just a fan or seating issue with some hardware.
Sidetracked, sorry.
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I also fell in love with my device again. It is much faster with CM9 and I don't need anything more. The OC kernel makes it fly. I can't make it lag. Transitions are buttery smooth. I can't wait until JB or CM10. A whole new device with touchwiz gone. Don't even miss the s pen
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On every android phone I've had I always ended up putting cm on it, it's just so much better than stock
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What's your brightness level on?
After debloating and installing trebuchet launcher, I think stock runs just as well as cm9
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Upgraded last night after a clean wipe. I like it save for I cannot uninstall ROM manager, and I can't run soft keys. Other than that you couldn't pay me to keep it. I'll be moving to the iPhone 5 and the Note 2 as fast as I can. I absolutely despise the old style hard keys. They are a crime against humanity and must be removed in the Note 2. Full screen or death!!
where is official cm9?
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where is official cm9?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767889
I saw this thread regarding CM9, but it looks like they only have beta-ish nightlies available. Haven't tried them myself.
I installed h0tw1r3's CM9 based ROM (here) and it is really beautiful.
I wanted to add that I completely agree with OP. This is my first Android phone, and I knew the power of custom ROM's in the past from using Windows Mobile 5/6. I tried several that were all pretty nice, but coming across the CM9 ROM, I feel like it really lives up to the hype. Gorgeous, polished, fast as hell!
Thanks to CM team and XDA, you guys rock.
Yeah I was under the impression that there was nothing official yet.
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I also fell in love with my device again. It is much faster with CM9 and I don't need anything more. The OC kernel makes it fly. I can't make it lag. Transitions are buttery smooth. I can't wait until JB or CM10. A whole new device with touchwiz gone. Don't even miss the s pen
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So is cm9 ics with OC kernel?
They still haven't done audio through USB yet have they?
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"I installed h0tw1r3's CM9 ROM and it is beautiful"
I am always amazed at how CM9 has the extra little touches that make a phone really work optimally like wake on volume, put screen to sleep[in notification pull down], included toggles, etc. For some reason unknown to me other ROM developers never include most of these but IMHO they make the Note really useful.
So why is there nothing on their website if this is official? Not a final release?
Also, does the cm team run on donations just like must devs?
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I think CM9 is not ready for prime time on the note. Checking the use internal SD in the storage setting forces it into a boot loop. Definely will have to wait until fixed. This is for the 7-16 nightly.
I love cm9 too.. Very fast and smooth no lag only had one little bump so far.. I run cm9 on my note and my galaxy tab 2
I would love to use cm9 but im an avid user of bell mobile tv. If there is a way to get both, please point me in the right direction.
Thanks
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bmstrong said:
Upgraded last night after a clean wipe. I like it save for I cannot uninstall ROM manager, and I can't run soft keys. Other than that you couldn't pay me to keep it. I'll be moving to the iPhone 5 and the Note 2 as fast as I can. I absolutely despise the old style hard keys. They are a crime against humanity and must be removed in the Note 2. Full screen or death!!
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Just delete the rom manager app inside the zip before flash and there you go, no more ROM manager.. are you kidding?! why waste perfect screen real estate for emulated keys? Sure the screen could go all the way to the bottom without any hard keys but unless they create a screen with a built in speaker there will always be a space at the top of the phone for that and they balanced the look of the phone by centering the screen AND including keys so that 100% of the LCD is usable. Go get in line with the sheep for that iPhone and sell your note to someone more appreciative of a fully customizable phone
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and I can't run soft keys.
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there are other roms that support this....
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On every android phone I've had I always ended up putting cm on it, it's just so much better than stock
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You Sir, just hit the proverbial nail, directly on the head.......g

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