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Just found a new stylus by wacom,bamboo stylus
http://www.wacom.eu/index2.asp?lang=en
Looks promising, should be due out this month. It has the thinnest nib of any stylus on the market, and since I take alot of stylus notes (maple paint and genial) I think this is a must have for me.
I have ordered it from their site, delivery is within 14 days, i am currently using the Boxwave one but like this one because it is the size of an average ball point pen which I would prefer. Hope it works as well as or better than the Boxwave. I went for it because of wacom's reputation.
Can be ordered from here:
http://eu.shop.wacom.eu/Bamboo/Bamboo-Stylus/Bamboo-Stylus?c=9149
ordered a dagi one as the bamboo looks pretty pricey for.....a possibly better designed rubber nub. I use a wacom tablet and know they make some nice stuff, but it doesn't seem to be much different than the cheaper alternatives out there.
The dagi should be interesting with the clear tip and red dot so you can see where you're pointing, gonna play around with autodesk sketchbook mobile with it.
lacrossev said:
ordered a dagi one ....The dagi should be interesting with the clear tip and red dot so you can see where you're pointing, gonna play around with autodesk sketchbook mobile with it.
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I am interested to hear how this one works out. I am currently using a targus which works great for me. but want a little more precision. Please update this when you get it....
Think will order one, will give a review of it when received, but probably be a few weeks before I get it
does the wacom pen work with the TF-101? I am confused....
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does the wacom pen work with the TF-101? I am confused....
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Its not anything that will work like a wacom tablet + their stylus. This is just a regular capacitive stylus with the nub at the end of it, it just so happens that wacom makes it. Theres no interactivity between the stylus and the device other than the contact of the nib. So yea, it will work fine with the TF101, as will all capactive styli on the market today.
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I am interested to hear how this one works out. I am currently using a targus which works great for me. but want a little more precision. Please update this when you get it....
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It takes a little getting used to to hold it properly and to put the right pressure to get that disc centered, but once you do, the lines start at or very close to the dot, depending on whether i am holding it right. It takes a bit of getting used to, and seems more suitable for drawing and sketching. This is because if you're doing quick swipes i.e. quickly jotting down notes you might not get the disc centered before the tablet registers the touch, causing a fairly inaccurate input.
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It takes a little getting used to to hold it properly and to put the right pressure to get that disc centered, but once you do, the lines start at or very close to the dot, depending on whether i am holding it right. It takes a bit of getting used to, and seems more suitable for drawing and sketching. This is because if you're doing quick swipes i.e. quickly jotting down notes you might not get the disc centered before the tablet registers the touch, causing a fairly inaccurate input.
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That doesn't sound too promising. I'm expecting mine to be delivered on Monday. Was going to use it for handwrite note taking
I ordered the DAGI too.
I'll also provide feedback once I receive it.
mias1 said:
That doesn't sound too promising. I'm expecting mine to be delivered on Monday. Was going to use it for handwrite note taking
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Well the way I see it when u are handwriting your movements should just follow your first stroke. I tried writing quickly and found the dot to be useless because I'm writing so fast I'm just going by muscle memory instead of trying to aim it
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I really cant wait to hear what you guys think of the stylus.
Acually, it all depends on how well the transformer can be used to handwrite/inking for me if im going to buy it or not. =)
Discusbass said:
I really cant wait to hear what you guys think of the stylus.
Acually, it all depends on how well the transformer can be used to handwrite/inking for me if im going to buy it or not. =)
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I have received mine today and can give a little feedback on how I am finding the stylus in use.
The stylus itself is really nice to hold in the hand, its weight is just right and it actually feels like you are holding a good quality pen. I expected it to be a little longer, more like the size of a standard size ball point pen however it is just a little bit shorter than this. Having said this, because of the way the weight is distributed on the stylus, it does not feel uncomfortable in the hand and feels very natural.
The end uses a small rubbery nib similar to others available however is considerably smaller when compared to the Boxwave stylus which I also use. This allows for more precision when writing and placement on the tablet.
To test handwriting, I used Tabnotes which is available on the market as a trial. My findings are that the stylus can definitely be used for handwriting and produces very acceptable results, I can confidently say that the writing produced from it resembled my true handwriting (Which is not very tidy by the way but is unique to me).
There is a slight screen sensitivity issue which I think is related to the transformer and not the pen. When you place dots on top of the letter i or strike through letters like t, you need to apply a bit more pressure (not excessive) or it may not register on the tablet.
I used a similar test on my HTC desire HD (DHD) and this is where the quality of the stylus was really highlighted. On the DHD, straight away I noticed that the screen was more responsive, the stylus seemed to glide effortlessly on it's screen with minimal pressure being applied and the results were near enough 100%. I used writepad to test on the DHD which converts your handwriting into typed text and my handwriting was recognised instantly.
Hopefully the upgrade to the honeycomb software will address the sensitivity issue on the transformer which if it does will make the Transformer an ideal platform for handwritten notes. Having said this, in its current form it is still very usable, all it means is that you have to use slightly more pressure on the transformer. I am also assuming that this will work even better on the Ipad2 because the screen sensitivity is no doubt better on it.
I hope this has been helpful, any queries about the stylus, let me know and I will try to help before you take the plunge and buy it.
Edit: I have since writing this, used it on my wifes Ipad2 and as I thought it gave very similar results as the DHD where the results were equal i.e. almost 100% accuracy.
I have also added some pics where I have compared the size of the Boxwave stylus against the Bamboo stylus and another pic showing the size difference of the nibs on each.
HasC said:
I have received mine today and can give a little feedback on how I am finding the stylus in use.
The stylus itself is really nice to hold in the hand, its weight is just right and it actually feels like you are holding a good quality pen. I expected it to be a little longer, more like the size of a standard size ball point pen however it is just a little bit shorter than this. Having said this, because of the way the weight is distributed on the stylus, it does not feel uncomfortable in the hand and feels very natural.
The end uses a small rubbery nib similar to others available however is considerably smaller when compared to the Boxwave stylus which I also use. This allows for more precision when writing and placement on the tablet.
To test handwriting, I used Tabnotes which is available on the market as a trial. My findings are that the stylus can definitely be used for handwriting and produces very acceptable results, I can confidently say that the writing produced from it resembled my true handwriting (Which is not very tidy by the way but is unique to me).
There is a slight screen sensitivity issue which I think is related to the transformer and not the pen. When you place dots on top of the letter i or strike through letters like t, you need to apply a bit more pressure (not excessive) or it may not register on the tablet.
I used a similar test on my HTC desire HD (DHD) and this is where the quality of the stylus was really highlighted. On the DHD, straight away I noticed that the screen was more responsive, the stylus seemed to glide effortlessly on it's screen with minimal pressure being applied and the results were near enough 100%. I used writepad to test on the DHD which converts your handwriting into typed text and my handwriting was recognised instantly.
Hopefully the upgrade to the honeycomb software will address the sensitivity issue on the transformer which if it does will make the Transformer an ideal platform for handwritten notes. Having said this, in its current form it is still very usable, all it means is that you have to use slightly more pressure on the transformer. I am also assuming that this will work even better on the Ipad2 because the screen sensitivity is no doubt better on it.
I hope this has been helpful, any queries about the stylus, let me know and I will try to help before you take the plunge and buy it.
Edit: I have since writing this, used it on my wifes Ipad2 and as I thought it gave very similar results as the DHD where the results were equal i.e. almost 100% accuracy.
I have also added some pics where I have compared the size of the Boxwave stylus against the Bamboo stylus and another pic showing the size difference of the nibs on each.
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first of all thanks for the review on the stylus but, please, can you show some video or picture on this handwriting?
Thanks
danielcmacedo said:
first of all thanks for the review on the stylus but, please, can you show some video or picture on this handwriting?
Thanks
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Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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That looks awesome, im going to use it for marking up pdf drawings in the field. If i can keep somewhat a straightish line its a winner.
@ Delecron:
You can draw lines using Repligo reader or EZpdf which also allows you to draw in freehand if necessary.
HasC said:
Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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Looks good- I also recently been using Tabnotes with a Targus which works great. I LOVE Tabnotes- it definitely has some great potential. Any idea when the full version will be released. I am sick of looking at the Trial version smack in the middle of the papers..
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Looks good- I also recently been using Tabnotes with a Targus which works great. I LOVE Tabnotes- it definitely has some great potential. Any idea when the full version will be released. I am sick of looking at the Trial version smack in the middle of the papers..
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Had an email from the developer a couple of days ago where he apologised for not getting back to an email that I had sent him when he first put the software on the market where I requested from him a few changes such as having the undo and other tools at the top instead of having to select them via the menu option. He has done this and made a few other changes that enhance the software e.g. the little arrows on the bottom corner on the right to position the writing area etc.
Hopefully he should be releasing the full version fairly soon because he also advised that the reason for late response to emails was because he is hard at work improving the software before release which in his estimation is a couple of weeks.
I am checking for software updates daily for Tabnotes as I too can see the potential of this program and it is definitely my first choice for producing hand written notes on my tablet.
Too costly, even though the quality is there I just can't pay that much. Probably going to buy a few of these.
the price is high and the temptation to buy an ipad2 honestly is present (despite I love droid) I would like to see a flyer vs ipad2 on the tube, in the meanwhile the most important factor for me to make adiscrimination between the two(I would always use my hd2 of course) is the weight..I would like to know by the users if you evaluate him really portable or your little bag burden on your shoulders.
Definitely. If you're concerned with weight and portability, Flyer is the choice. Apart from the screen (scratches, see other thread ) it is solid and lightweight compared to the iPad 1 (which is a few gram heavier than the new one). With the iPad I always needed to decide whether to take it with me or not, even though it is considerably lighter than a notebook or a netbook, but taking the Flyer with you is a no-brainer.
thank you
I really urge to buy something, because at the moment my hd2 has the touch screen that does not work anymore( ) and I cannot wait 4 weeks to repair( maybe I ll find some shop here in adam without assistance) well the price is definetely high, especially considering all the models that are coming out, also if HTC remains for me the best android choice. Ill think thank you
I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
Bxsteez said:
I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
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Yes, this device fits in the back pocket of jeans or khakis without a problem. As far as I know, the iPad 2 can't do that trick. I like keeping my devices naked with just a thin film of invisibleshield and screen protector.
If you don't need the pen integration, then by all means there are less expensive 7" models out there. If you're looking for a "boardroom" device, the pen integration is a great, but the HTC won't have as much clout as an iPad.
Bxsteez said:
I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
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dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
ovigt71 said:
dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
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We wear potato sacks over here.
I live in a nudest colony so the only place I carry it is in between my buttcrack :/
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Yes, this device fits in the back pocket of jeans or khakis without a problem. As far as I know, the iPad 2 can't do that trick. I like keeping my devices naked with just a thin film of invisibleshield and screen protector.
If you don't need the pen integration, then by all means there are less expensive 7" models out there. If you're looking for a "boardroom" device, the pen integration is a great, but the HTC won't have as much clout as an iPad.
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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The HTC screen is nice. Others have posted that It's fine outdoors. HTC has a few feature called Trace which is very similar to Swype.
The pen integration is only available in certain apps. It's not like the pdas where your handwriting is recognized into letters. What you write on the screen is what you get. More like pen and paper.
I don't think the archos has a capacitive screen. It should connect to your WiFi hotspot with no issue. Its a lot less expensive than the Flyer. Again if pen integration is not necessary the Archos would be fine.
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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I've never used the archos 7 but the archos 5 was a fantastic media player. I'm referring to the android version. I seriously doubt the screen on the archos 7 is brighter than the flyer. I have yet to take this thing off minimum brightness. It is INSANELY bright!!! Its hard to even give and example. If i had a video camera I would show you a comparison between the Thunderbolt, which has a great screen, and the flyer. It really is crazy!
On the compatiblity with swype i'm not sure but I would mention that swyping on a larger screen has to be more time consuming than using thumb keyboard which gives you tablet keyboard options. That is a personal preference though.
The last part is the battery. I've used quite a few android devices that include the galaxy tab,motorola droid, droid incredible, thunderbolt, and galaxy s (fascinate), and i would say the battery is a little bit better than the galaxy tab and that battery life was great!!! I used the Flyer pretty much all day yesterday at work, I'm an engineer, and I was drawing circuits all day and it was tethered to my thunderbolt all day and when I got home i was still at 40%. So battery life is great!!
I hope that helps.
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The HTC screen is nice. Others have posted that It's fine outdoors. HTC has a few feature called Trace which is very similar to Swype.
The pen integration is only available in certain apps. It's not like the pdas where your handwriting is recognized into letters. What you write on the screen is what you get. More like pen and paper.
I don't think the archos has a capacitive screen. It should connect to your WiFi hotspot with no issue. Its a lot less expensive than the Flyer. Again if pen integration is not necessary the Archos would be fine.
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well I have to think and benchmark, thank you
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dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
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Watch this dude slip the Flyer in his back jean pocket.
http://gigaom.com/mobile/video-first-look-at-the-htc-flyer-android-tablet/
When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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Yea. I have noticed this problem as well. It seems like the inking is only meant for highlighting or something. Even the choice of pens is limited in the application.
Yes, only one pen and even the smallest size is pretty big in PDF Viewer. Note that in Polaris office there is only one pen too but the small size is a nice small size and works well---problem there is portability. Ink does not show up in Word once inked on and sent to one's computer.
Here is what happens on mine in terms of erasing:
1. can erase if I have not yet saved
2. can erase if I save without flattening
3. cannot erase if I save flattened.
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Here is what happens on mine in terms of erasing:
1. can erase if I have not yet saved
2. can erase if I save without flattening
3. cannot erase if I save flattened.
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I am able to erase ink under the conditions you listed, but I can't seem to erase highlighting unless I exit without saving. Same for you, I suspect?
I bought the Flyer to read and annotate my PDFs at university.
But with that thick strokes it's pretty unusable at the moment.
I would like to have the annotation feature (annotations at the right side) from the ebook-app in the pdf-viewer and a much thinner pen.
Do you think HTC is going to give us an update soon?
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When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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I haven't had the problem when I zoom in. I am able to zoom in and write between the lines of text really well and when I zoom out I can still read it.
I haven't found a solution for deleting highlighting unless you exit without saving...
You can erase the highlight by clicking on it with your finger.
In the "Pop-Up" there are buttons to select the highlight-color and one button to delete the highlight (in my German Version it's called "Markierung entfernen" which means something like "delete mark").
Unfortunately i haven't found a way to delete all the highlight at once yet.
Not got one yet but have read (and seen on YouTube) that if you press harder the line is thicker and the lighter you press the thinner the line - Maybe that works in pdf viewer too???
Good luck
I tried it at bestbuy today. The freehand inking pen does not seem pressure sensitive. You can pick different thicknesses for the pen, and it stays at that thickness. The thinnest line is actually rather thick, like 10-ish pixels at the highest zoom level.
In the brush popup menu, there is one of the menus that allows you to undo/redo strokes.
BTW, can somebody upload an annotated pdf? I would like to open it in a few desktop pdf viewers.
thanks for all the comments thus far.
there is no pressure sensitivity for the pen in the pdf app for me, and the line is jittery, like the tablet is sampling the pen location too infrequently.
my view is that the pdf software was rushed for release and is in such an unfinished state that it is unusable. For me this negates the entire purpose of owning the Flyer.
HTC had better release a working version of their promised pdf annotator or they are going to lose customers and gain bad rep. on the other hand if they respond with updates in a timely manner.. they'll gain the kind of good publicity you can't buy.
as it stands, i will be telling my colleagues to stay away from HTC.
to those looking for good pdf annotation for android, try an app called ezPDF.
anyone have any other useful apps to recommend?
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thanks for all the comments thus far.
there is no pressure sensitivity for the pen in the pdf app for me, and the line is jittery, like the tablet is sampling the pen location too infrequently.
my view is that the pdf software was rushed for release and is in such an unfinished state that it is unusable. For me this negates the entire purpose of owning the Flyer.
HTC had better release a working version of their promised pdf annotator or they are going to lose customers and gain bad rep. on the other hand if they respond with updates in a timely manner.. they'll gain the kind of good publicity you can't buy.
as it stands, i will be telling my colleagues to stay away from HTC.
to those looking for good pdf annotation for android, try an app called ezPDF.
anyone have any other useful apps to recommend?
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Did you report this to HTC? You're more likely to get a fix if you report it (and even more likely if lots of people report it).
I created two pdf-files with the same content. The difference is that one is saved "flattened" and the other one is save with "two layers". (HTC offers these two methods to save the pdf).
I was extremely surprised when i just tried to open the two files with PDF-XChange Viewer. There are NO ANNOTATIONS to see.
@solsearch: Yes, i wrote to the German HTC-Support yesterday.
At the moment the Flyer is nothing more than any other (cheaper) tablet.
The pen is nice but much more a gimmick than a useful feature for my purposes.
@Gathering: thanks for the upload! I opened both of them on Evince (linux) and Foxit Reader (windows) and both picked up the annotations. I was also able to manipulate the highlights in Foxit. The different highlighting colors looks good! I wasn't able to change color at BB yesterday.
The flattened and non-flattened appear the same in Foxit though. I can manipulate each individual annotation... don't know what the separate layer did.
I'm very interested in using the Flyer to replace my current ebook reader. I can compromise on the thickness issue as long as it's good enough in terms of general writing precision.
I was a bit disappointed that I couldn't add text notes to the pdf, but the software is actually made by Foxit, so I don't know how well updates will be for the pdf reader.
EDIT: has anybody tried out ezPDF reader? The video reviews look fantastic. Unfortunately it won't take advantage of HTC Scribe, but I'm definitely considering using it to complement the regular pdf viewer if I get the Flyer.
I do a lot of work through PDFs also, and I have no issues with how the pen interacts in PDF Viewer. The line with is a little thick, but it worked well for what I need it to do. Usually the notes are for me and I like the "pen and paper feel".
It would be nice to be able to type comments... I think that's what people miss. Because I tusually don't "write" notes into PDFs on my computer... No digitizer.
They are also readable in the default Adobe reader on Windows (it gives a small error message but everything showed up from what I could see), this means that anyone should be able to view the notes (since I assume the default Adobe readers on other OSs will also work).
Thickness depends on Portrait/Landscape
I too am frustrated by the pen thickness issue in the PDF viewer. Annotating PDFs was the main reason for buying the HTC Flyer. One thing to note though, the thickness you get also depends on whether you are in portrait or landscape. I get a thinner pen in Portrait than Landscape. I get slightly better annotations, therefore, when I use it in Portrait mode.
Same here, the ink gets too thick in the pdf documents
lawrennd said:
I too am frustrated by the pen thickness issue in the PDF viewer. Annotating PDFs was the main reason for buying the HTC Flyer. One thing to note though, the thickness you get also depends on whether you are in portrait or landscape. I get a thinner pen in Portrait than Landscape. I get slightly better annotations, therefore, when I use it in Portrait mode.
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I encourage everyone to report this issue to HTC, and possibly reference this thread when you do.
As for me (the OP), I am not waiting around an indefinite amount of time for HTC to fix their broken Flyer PDF annotation software. After all, they have not even acknowledged it's broken or that a fix is coming.
I can't even "fix" the problem myself by writing a better annotator app because HTC hasn't released the Flyer ink SDK.
So I returned my Flyer to bestbuy, and exchanged it for a Motorola Xoom. You can annotated PDFs on the xoom much more easily than on the Flyer- just get a piece of software called ezPDF, or try Repligo PDF. Annotation on the xoom using these programs is much nicer than the Flyer's annotator, even though the Xoom does not have native pen support.
Xoom is roughly the same price as a Flyer +pen, but the Xoom is MUCH faster, has a much better screen, and runs honeycomb 3.1 right now.
If you are using a Flyer and you have never tried a Xoom, you don't know what you're missing.
I still love the concept of the Flyer, but unfortunately the implementation is half-assed.
I guess it depends on the way you are using it. While trying to annotate pages was useless I just zoomed in and everything was fine...
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hi guys..
would like to know if anyone is using the EzPDF reader on the flyer..
wanna check whether the magazine pdf file will fill up the whole screen on the flyer in portrait mode.. and if the text are readable (without having to strain the eyes) without having to zoom in..
I am able the read magazine pdf files on my Asus transformer..
on the verge of letting it go as the Flyer is more portable..
I have it. I'm not sure if it makes the text more readable. Readability wise it's like the pdf reader that comes with the flyer.
does the pdf viewer on the flyer make the text readable?..
just do not wish to strain my eyes..
vengence_angels said:
does the pdf viewer on the flyer make the text readable?
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What do you mean? The quality of the screen? The viewers possibilities self or what?
All other stuff depends on the pdt self (text, document sizes, marges, etc.)
Elim said:
What do you mean? The quality of the screen? The viewers possibilities self or what?
All other stuff depends on the pdt self (text, document sizes, marges, etc.)
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not quality of the screen but the text itself..
curious if the text is "big" enough to read comfortably when in full screen portrait mode..
do not wish to squint my eyes when i read the magazine in portrait mode..
Personally I prefer magazines on my iPad for the screen-size. I just downloaded a magazine onto my Flyr as a test. I used the default PDF app, with pen integration, and you can zoom in enough to read each column of text while in portrait mode. My magazine page had 4 columns per page probably a 10pt font.
I didn't check if the PDF viewer supports side by side (2 page) viewing and whether you could zoom in far enough to read text.
The Flyr seems fine for magazine viewing in portrait mode.
It appears that your question is a hardware question and not a software question.
The transformer has 67% greater resolution than the flyer. In other words, both full screen, it contains up to 67% more detail. Physically the screen is about twice as large.
Thus, a rough estimate is if you take the text size on the transformer and cut it in half (50% ~ 67% zoom level) do you think you can read comfortably? If not, probably not.
If none of this makes sense, the short answer is, no, it is not going to be as comfortable as the transformer. Your arm will be more comfortable though
nebaneba said:
It appears that your question is a hardware question and not a software question.
The transformer has 67% greater resolution than the flyer. In other words, both full screen, it contains up to 67% more detail. Physically the screen is about twice as large.
Thus, a rough estimate is if you take the text size on the transformer and cut it in half (50% ~ 67% zoom level) do you think you can read comfortably? If not, probably not.
If none of this makes sense, the short answer is, no, it is not going to be as comfortable as the transformer. Your arm will be more comfortable though
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i agree with u..
this is more a hardware Qn..
my mistake..
i did what you mentioned actually..
i simulated the size of a 7" screen on my transformer using pinch to zoom..
cant read comfortably though.. haha..
however i have since sold my transformer and deciding between Flyer or Tab10.1..
transformer has a nice screen but the weight is killing me..
Flyer isn't exactly light either, but that's the tradeoff for a more durable aluminium case. My iPad isn't light either. But I definitely appreciate the durability of a metal case.
i use EzPDF, its not great on the eyes for reading text but you can zoom a little if need be. i would say with no doubt a bigger screen would be better
It was heart wrenching to sell my transformer as it is a very good honeycomb device but the creaking back and light bleeding was too much for me to take..
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Acers Iconia looks promising for a 10" Android Tablet. It's unfortunate of the price point of these devices... I guess we have Apple for setting the bar so high.
Hey everyone, I've had this idea of trying to merge the use of my transformer prime with my business. I go out to several homes a day to take measurements for various things, as well as sketch rough drawings. Does anyone here use their tablet for something similar?
The reason I ask is because I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and the stylus that comes with that has a nice fine tip that I can create notes and drawings in Evernote pretty well with.. but that stylus won't work on the transformer. So I ordered the Wacom Bamboo stylus with the rubber end. But when I write numbers like "39 3/4" or something -- it looks like a 5 year old wrote it. Same goes for the simple drawings and the dimensions.
Are there any options available that can make the tablet useful for this type of work?
Thanks everyone,
An excellent app for Android for stylus-based notes and sketches is LectureNotes. It has a ton of features, and the developer keeps improving the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotes
Quill is also a pretty good writing/sketching app, but not as many features as LectureNotes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.write.Quill
For styluses that have finer control, you may want to consider some of the following stylus makers:
iFaraday: has a dielectric micro-mesh surface, which is stiffer than than rubber-tip stylus. I have the Artist version, and it's great for sketching.
Adonit: the Jot Pro fine-point stylus, has a transparent disc so you can better see the point of contact. Good for handwriting.
DAGi: similar in style to the Adonit, in a variety of sizes.
Gary_O said:
An excellent app for Android for stylus-based notes and sketches is LectureNotes. It has a ton of features, and the developer keeps improving the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotes
Quill is also a pretty good writing/sketching app, but not as many features as LectureNotes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.write.Quill
For styluses that have finer control, you may want to consider some of the following stylus makers:
iFaraday: has a dielectric micro-mesh surface, which is stiffer than than rubber-tip stylus. I have the Artist version, and it's great for sketching.
Adonit: the Jot Pro fine-point stylus, has a transparent disc so you can better see the point of contact. Good for handwriting.
DAGi: similar in style to the Adonit, in a variety of sizes.
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Thank you for the recommendations! I did search quite a bit when it came to which stylus to order and I did see the Jot Pro. I was going to order it but I saw a few YouTube videos of people using it and it wasn't working all that great.
Basically my sketches would be very limited to some rather basic line drawings.. it's not like I'm sketching faces or anything elaborate. So I'd much rather have something more geared to neater handwriting.
As far as the apps go, do they themselves have anything to do with the responsiveness of the device? I know the answer is probably no, but I was wondering if their software tends to "correct" on the fly making for neater lines or whatever.. I'm not sure if that question is completely clear or not.
The reason I ask is because I like Evernote's interface and I like that you can synchronize accounts with certain notebooks, etc.
As far as a technical question goes -- do you know why my galaxy note's stylus will not work with the prime? I read that they are both capacitive touch screens.. but I guess there is more to it than just that.
Thanks again!
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As far as the apps go, do they themselves have anything to do with the responsiveness of the device? I know the answer is probably no, but I was wondering if their software tends to "correct" on the fly making for neater lines or whatever.. I'm not sure if that question is completely clear or not.
The reason I ask is because I like Evernote's interface and I like that you can synchronize accounts with certain notebooks, etc.
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LectureNotes and Quill do not "improve" the quality of the writing, however they both have a zoom mode where you can write larger (and more legibly) and then this is unzoomed in the captured writing. LectureNotes has some fine-tuning options to improve the screen responsiveness to the stylus, and the apps have a palm detection feature so there is an area on the screen you can rest your hand and not have that detected by the screen.
You may also want to check out the Skitch app, which is from Evernote. It does improve or smooth out writing, and integrates very well with Evernote.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evernote.skitch
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As far as a technical question goes -- do you know why my galaxy note's stylus will not work with the prime? I read that they are both capacitive touch screens.. but I guess there is more to it than just that.
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The Galaxy Note devices have both a capacitive touch screen and an active digitizer screen that works with the special S-pen stylus. The S-pen stylus does not work on capacitive touch screens that come with most tablets (like the Prime) or smartphones. For capacitive touch screens you will need a standard capacitive stylus.