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Dear Community,
I decided to not continue developing for the x-mini pro for now.
Which basically means I will not release any new ROMs and will not provide any more support regarding the old ones.
The decision has been hard but I just can't put up with it anymore. There is a group of people who are very ungrateful and even send cuss at me to release updates or giving support and so on. I am not a slave and I am doing all of this besides my work, university and life. I am doing this in my freetime and I don't need to put up with this.
This doesn' mean everybody in the forums is like that the most people appreciate the work and thank me so let me return the thank you and thank you guys for your support.
Another reason for me leaving is the fact that my work is being used and modified, which is perfectly fine but using the same and calling it faster or better or tweaked or whatever else and later turns out nothing is changed and no credits annoys me.
Besides that I have been working on basically all the core functionality of RomManager and I feel like the project was taken from me while I had my exams and this makes me sad. However this is the only project I will keep working on as it is MY Baby.
As for all the people who supported me, I want to thank you for the great time I had.
As for my Donators I will provide you with links whenever (I don't know when or if) I make a new version for my personal use. Whatever you do with the link is your free decision. So all Donators thank you very much for your support!! I honestly appreciate it!
If I feel like working on ROM's again I'll let you know but for now I need a break from this.
for me your roms have been a pleasure and ive appreciated everything you have done,,i hope your happy in whatever life brings and wish you all the success in the world,take care
slade87 said:
Dear Community,
I decided to not continue developing for the x-mini pro for now.
Which basically means I will not release any new ROMs and will not provide any more support regarding the old ones.
The decision has been hard but I just can't put up with it anymore. There is a group of people who are very ungrateful and even send cuss at me to release updates or giving support and so on. I am not a slave and I am doing all of this besides my work, university and life. I am doing this in my freetime and I don't need to put up with this.
This doesn' mean everybody in the forums is like that the most people appreciate the work and thank me so let me return the thank you and thank you guys for your support.
Another reason for me leaving is the fact that my work is being used and modified, which is perfectly fine but using the same and calling it faster or better or tweaked or whatever else and later turns out nothing is changed and no credits annoys me.
Besides that I have been working on basically all the core functionality of RomManager and I feel like the project was taken from me while I had my exams and this makes me sad. However this is the only project I will keep working on as it is MY Baby.
As for all the people who supported me, I want to thank you for the great time I had.
As for my Donators I will provide you with links whenever (I don't know when or if) I make a new version for my personal use. Whatever you do with the link is your free decision. So all Donators thank you very much for your support!! I honestly appreciate it!
If I feel like working on ROM's again I'll let you know but for now I need a break from this.
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you're one of the best of this community. I understand how you feel. I hope you change your idea as soon as possible,
Regards
It's sad to see developers leave such a small community but I totally understand your reasons. Good bye and good luck in your future projects
slade87 said:
Besides that I have been working on basically all the core functionality of RomManager and I feel like the project was taken from me while I had my exams and this makes me sad. However this is the only project I will keep working on as it is MY Baby.
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Ok bro no prob with that, if that annoys you, ill just stop working on it, but have this clear, my idea was improving it all i can, helping you, not stealing your idea, seems like it's a sin, so good luck and good bye.
Im gonna commit last changes, and then delete sources, you can delete my svn account
If that made feel you sad, think on all the time I put on rom manager, and now i feel like i lost my fkn time on some that wasn't even mine, and you say was taken from you?
I won't never get my time back again
At least i learned some android programming, and thank you for that.
It is sad that you stop you project6 that we all loved, but I understand that.
Life must go on and that is more important than this.
I have really love your work and will wait and hope that you continue whit it.
I wish you all luck.
Danke.
It has been a great time with you here
Hope to see you back some day
Thanks!
Your contribution has been invaluable Slade, as you well know. Churs for all the awesome, bra.
No man! Why! Plz no! Your the greatest developer! Mini pro development forum without you is you bull****! Your roms are the best! CM6 by slade is the best rom i've used! If people copy your project, edit them and upload u shudnt give a ****! Coz whats original will always be original! Plz man no dont leave, ur the best and most helpful dev! Dont leave :'( :'( :'(
Ok bro no prob with that, if that annoys you, ill just stop working on it, but have this clear, my idea was improving it all i can, helping you, not stealing your idea, seems like it's a sin, so good luck and good bye. Im gonna commit last changes, and then delete sources, you can delete my svn account If that made feel you sad, think on all the time I put on rom manager, and now i feel like i lost my fkn time on some that wasn't even mine, and you say was taken from you? I won't never get my time back again At least i learned some android programming, and thank you for that.
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Another reason for me leaving is the fact that my work is being used and modified, which is perfectly fine but using the same and calling it faster or better or tweaked or whatever else and later turns out nothing is changed and no credits annoys me.
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This also includes froyocomb n cyanocomb
I'm quite new to the posting part of these forums, but I've been running your roms for a while now and really liked em a lot, so would like to say thanks for all the effort you've put in
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This also includes froyocomb n cyanocomb
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Cyanocomb it's not based on cyano or slade's cm6 it's directly based on nAa work, anyway, i give credits to slade for anything from him on my roms, also my rom's have a Real improvement, it's not just text without sense, and froyocomb has been discontinued,can you read before talk?. I don't really know if slade it's talking about my roms, but i dont take him work, and no credits, on all my roms he was part of credits. Also for avoid all this, ill directly use nAa sources, like i did on CyaNoComb.
Also watch the way you write, sometimes people can get it offensive or annoy
thanks.
Thanks Slade for all great work you made!
Life continue, and I hope other devs will continue making mini pro roms...
Slade... thankyou for all your hard work. Those who keep plaguing you for updates aren't worth their salt. I started as a novice and managed perfectly fine with your ROMs, every update was a pleasure worth waiting for.
Good luck with your exams and your future!
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Thx Slade for all the nice times,
You learn me how a theme is working and how you can change it, you give me the spirit to do it !
Again Thx for the great roms what i can use for daily .
I hope your exams results are perfect because that is a important base for life.
Good luck and happy life !
Mika
( when you see a fault in my english fix it for your self)
Oh **** ! There goes another one. I can't for the love of everything that's holy understand why some people can't follow a handful of basic, common sense i might add, rules. The worst part is that everyone must now pay for a bunch of idiots who couldn't keep their mouths shut.
Really nice work Slade, u made a difference. Good luck in school and if u have a change of heart u know where to find us. All the best to you mate !
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Thanks for all the good roms n everything.
Hope you have a great life n I hope to see you again.
Thanks!!!
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Holysh*t I'm not gonna let you retire, man.
Just enjoy your vacation and come back after that! I will have some gifts for you at that time
Slade: All the best with whatever you do. You have some serious skills at this, and I hope one day you can find your way back to our humble device.
**** the haters. They're not even worth your time.
Enjoy your vaction/retirement/whatever-you-want-to-call-it.
All the best.
Thank you for all the hard work slade, and good luck in whatever you decide to do next! It makes me genuinley sad that you're leaving, but as I browse around in these fora, I do understand that you feel unappreciated...
Remember though, that some of us read alot more than we write in here, and therefore go quite unnoticed, as opposed to the fellas that post before they think. But we exist and appreciate your work alot! Take care mate.
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Hey
Ive been seening "AOKP" alot instead of "AOSP" and I want to know what is it and what does it mean?
Thanks a lot.
AOKP stands for "Android open kang project". What's kanging? Take a look:
Kanging (or to be kanged) – To have one’s developer code and work taken, manipulated, rebranded, and re-released by someone else with no credit.
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http://omgdroid.com/rootzwikis-stance-on-kanging-its-still-stealing-and-it-will-not-be-tolerated/
android_owl said:
AOKP stands for "Android open kang project". What's kanging? Take a look:
http://omgdroid.com/rootzwikis-stance-on-kanging-its-still-stealing-and-it-will-not-be-tolerated/
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Thanks.
I disagree with Rootzwiki's stands: Open source is open source. The joy of it is modifying it. If you dont like for your source to be modified and make it better, dont make it open source/dont be part of AOSP.
I agree with you in some spots but I disagree by dont giving credits. A developer puts effort and time ,without getting payed, in a project - at least honor him by giving credit.
My knowledge is updated.
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riahc3 said:
Thanks.
I disagree with Rootzwiki's stands: Open source is open source. The joy of it is modifying it. If you dont like for your source to be modified and make it better, dont make it open source/dont be part of AOSP.
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Agreed, but credit should be given where credit is due...
And usually is so don't stress it too much.
Cyanogenmod
Thanks for the info.
There is nothing wrong with working off of someone elses work, especially if you feel you can improve upon it. The only thing that sucks is most people will not give the other developer any credit. Just putting in your rom post to give someone else credit, you'd be suprised how many people will actually go to the other post for that person and just hit the thanks button.
The thanks button is there to show you appreciate what someone has done, or helped you. More or less it's like a handshake or a thumbs up...
I've done quiet a bit of work for the Samsung Vibrant and didn't recieve alot of credit. the CM7 builds of the vibrant used my GPS files to fix the GPS issue... Did I get any credit? None... Thats right the CM7 team worked off my files. Alot of other roms as well... Why? Because my GPS files worked the best... I was disappointed when I looked into the rom and saw my GPS files were the ones being used there.
As for the phone i'm using now, i've had 70 download on a new MMS.apk that I had help with. I have only recieved 3 thanks and just a multitude of people complaining about things. Hey I understand there are things wrong thats why it's still a beta and i'm working on it with the dev that made the other one for the Nexus but still... you think i'd get some thanks...
Nope..
It happens... its just life...
Now i'm gonna go get an Iphone and join the herd of sheep. lol jk
Thanks Ah Million!!!!
jwleonhart said:
There is nothing wrong with working off of someone elses work, especially if you feel you can improve upon it. The only thing that sucks is most people will not give the other developer any credit. Just putting in your rom post to give someone else credit, you'd be suprised how many people will actually go to the other post for that person and just hit the thanks button.
The thanks button is there to show you appreciate what someone has done, or helped you. More or less it's like a handshake or a thumbs up...
I've done quiet a bit of work for the Samsung Vibrant and didn't recieve alot of credit. the CM7 builds of the vibrant used my GPS files to fix the GPS issue... Did I get any credit? None... Thats right the CM7 team worked off my files. Alot of other roms as well... Why? Because my GPS files worked the best... I was disappointed when I looked into the rom and saw my GPS files were the ones being used there.
As for the phone i'm using now, i've had 70 download on a new MMS.apk that I had help with. I have only recieved 3 thanks and just a multitude of people complaining about things. Hey I understand there are things wrong thats why it's still a beta and i'm working on it with the dev that made the other one for the Nexus but still... you think i'd get some thanks...
Nope..
It happens... its just life...
Now i'm gonna go get an Iphone and join the herd of sheep. lol jk
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I don't own a Vibrant, but I wanna say Thanks!!! I don't know why people are ignorant but some just are!!! and the sad thing is the majority of people who download roms/fixes are! sad indeed. But there are alot of people who value your work and devs like you. I'm trying to find "square one" so to speak, because I wanna learn to build roms. And to be honest it's developer's like you that make me wanna step up to the plate and help with more than just a thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288714
there are some big names here that never released a Rom for the Amaze
what happened ???
I am wondering the same thing. They are really good devs.
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Let's PM them and ask..?
hasoon2000 said:
Let's PM them and ask..?
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good idea
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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while i agree with you on this. i think with any phone now there will be people *****ing if you dont have fast development. its just how XDA/the internet is getting lol. i remember back in the mytouch/g1 days when people were cool and got along
glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
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Lol ...and you think its just the forums here.... its the whole freaking society heading to exactly what you said.
Spoiled fuking punks.
Technology moving forward, society moving sideways, maybe a little backwards.... gl dude, I feel ya with what you are saying, you leaving is a loss, considering you actually contributed here, and didn't just post comments.
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Damn, im patient and busted my ass off at a craphole of a job to get this phone, but hey. Im happy with what i got and can wait for features that others are dying for. If we want things, then maybe we should learn ourselves. guess i got the wrong phone huh. Well guys, Were not all spoiled.
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glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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Agree with this whole heartedly.
I have spent the last year or so on this forum, researching my old phone G2 and my current phone Amaze. Just 1 month ago i finally built the courage to root & S-OFF my G2, loaded up recovery and a rom. I went detail by detail on this forum, every question i thought of i hit the search bar and walla, someone else had the same issue and it was resolved instantly. So 2 weeks ago i decided to root my Amaze and S-Off using the juopunutbear tool. I read for 2 straight days and in my modding infancy i made some mistakes, But as i returned to reading, i was able to make whatever wrong i had right. No needs to making new threads or pm'ing anyone. It's a shame people are to lazy to do the simple things that are required on this forum.
Just wanna say a huge thanks to all the helpfull users on these boards, be it devs or just random testers or noobs willing to make mistakes like myself in order to enjoy their phone to the fullest extent.
glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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so you call all of us fake devs? just because alot of us dont know how to build from source very well doesnt mean were not real devs! its called theming, a different kind of dev. and along with theming, you make mods to roms.
you sir got your definition of a kang wrong. and people that ask eta's are just eager for the devs awesomeness to show. (it should make the devs happy that there work is at least wanted... if you dont like eta's, ignore the user)
as for pm's, just ignore it or answer it. the choice is yours lol. the community gives to you, you give back to the community. even if it means answering back to a pm. i've gotten pm's from users with questions about rooting the amaze. instead of pushing them away, i helped them.
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I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
Sent from my HTC Ruby running Sense 3.6
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I will see to it that we get working AOSP me and the tiamat dev are discussing gsm and ill fix it I promise. Sooner or later we will have it but I agree with everything else though
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death4u said:
I have spent the last year or so on this forum, researching my old phone G2 and my current phone Amaze. Just 1 month ago i finally built the courage to root & S-OFF my G2, loaded up recovery and a rom. I went detail by detail on this forum, every question i thought of i hit the search bar and walla, someone else had the same issue and it was resolved instantly. So 2 weeks ago i decided to root my Amaze and S-Off using the juopunutbear tool. I read for 2 straight days and in my modding infancy i made some mistakes, But as i returned to reading, i was able to make whatever wrong i had right. No needs to making new threads or pm'ing anyone. It's a shame people are to lazy to do the simple things that are required on this forum.
Just wanna say a huge thanks to all the helpfull users on these boards, be it devs or just random testers or noobs willing to make mistakes like myself in order to enjoy their phone to the fullest extent.
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15 months, 1 post, and this guy has it figured out. he should be a role model for all! unfortunately, the people that need to see this post are too busy creating new threads and asking silly questions
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15 months, 1 post, and this guy has it figured out. he should be a role model for all! unfortunately, the people that need to see this post are too busy creating new threads and asking silly questions
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We should all link that post to them lol
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I agree most with hasoon.... That said....
. The organisation here is atrocious...
The 5 step perfect how to walk through for any major topic is on Page 67 and never linked back to the op and takes 18 continuous hours of reading through misinformation to find... At which time you're exhausted and at roughly the highest level of doubt possible..
Roms ate not dated in the op or heading
Virtually nothing is stickied AND closed immediately
Chagelogs look like government cost justification spreadsheets...
Go look at the hd2 or even back to the HTC elf (touch)..
Ive been at this since the ipaq... This is by far the most impossible to discern community sub segment yet... I WILL agree their are a lot of princess's here... But I will ADMIT even I wont do crap yet till I DONT have to sort through 1200 posts to find what should be stickied at the top of the Page.
I post this as a a moderate between desperate nubes who don't deserve flaming AND desperate dev's sick of nubes not spending 18 hours doing what should be 5 minutes of searching.
The search function in the amaze area is almost pointless... We need 20 sticks at the top of the development forum with 3 posts then LOCK IT!!
I just re-read this and it sounds way harsher than what I wanted.. So.. Hugs and kisses to all!!..
Hope that helps!??
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so you call all of us fake devs? just because alot of us dont know how to build from source very well doesnt mean were not real devs!
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Yes it does. Sorry, but theming doesn't make you a true dev. Its the difference between being a medical assistant and a doctor. Sure some medical assistants, have great knowledge... but doesn't make them a doctor.
You can be a great themer, hell even the best... but it doesn't make you a dev.
If you don't understand what you are doing and you are just doing it, you're not really a developer
And this is not a bad thing. Lot of great themers, and props to them for being as such.
This of course is just imho, not trying to flame you or anyone else.
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ok lets stop with this back and forth crap and get back on topic, hmm?
ive stopped posting in this forum too, cuz i was sick of all the pm's, being a lurker is much easier, so its hard to blame any of those devs for never making a rom for us. all we can do is ask nicely and hope for the best.
glacierguy, you probably wont be reading this, but if you are, i want to thank you for putting up with all the crap you had to put up with, and for your sake i hope one day we can come up with a browser extension that magnifies the search button x9000.
eclipze, thank you too, for creating speedrom and allowing me to use it as a base for my own, which i never released, because you beat me to the aosp punch although i may have possibly found a way to get aosp contacts/phone working!!! ill pm you with details tomorrow
now then, how will we go about asking all those great devs to come back? a petition? (not a come back now one, but a please come back one) i dont think multiple pm's will work, only piss em off.
ideas?
or maybe we could start a thread and pm them and have them post in it?
or maybe i just posted this to bump the thread? im not too sure yet...
I guess we lost our best dev
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25869655
he is working on miui aokp and more lol XD
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glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
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I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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Well, I agree with you about nobody wanting to do the legwork of research, and also I see a lot of jerk-faces..
and in no way am I trying to argue, you've been a cool guy, one of the few members still here that I respect..
..but in defense of those "not devs", it is really hard to tell the difference. Where/how does a dev start? I didn't really like the community of my last phone, the vibrant, and it had plenty of development so there was never much point for me to trying to learn with that-- but the amaze needs devs, and with the release of ICS on a phone I find to be awesome, I finally want to learn.
Thus far all I have released is just a remix of other people's work, and one jar file barely modified to get beats to work-- but I am trying to find challenges and a good starting point for going from a "not-dev" to something more. I mean, the people who ARE developers had to start somewhere right? The hard part is figuring out where/how.
Right now I am trying to learn how to either: make a proper port(which requires some pretty heavy knowledge to properly integrate kernels, bootclasspaths, etc), or contribute to aosp(actually build it, fix it, make changes to git, etc), port something like leedroid tweaks(requires lots of compiling/decompiling, modification of everything, etc).. I'm just trying to figure out which would help give me the best experience to help me move on to even BIGGER things.
I guess I'm just saying that because not everyone is just trying to kang other people's work, but has to use that as part of the process for getting to something more their own! I had no doubt I could put together some awesome flashables that would be 100% problem free(based on other work, with proper credit given), that is the only reason I've offered it, but I am trying to take that next step!
As far as leaving these forums and xboarder.. I get frustrated by these forums too, but I can't say I can respect many of xboarder's actions. I know he is young, and probably 99% of the issues I see are related to that- but if I learn something that I think others could use I would share it. If I could work openly with other people I would. If the community would be better served by me doing something WITH others I would do it in a heartbeat. But he liked to get offended by people who didn't matter, he wouldn't set aside his differences to work with other people doing the same thing because he would rather prove he can do it without them-- the way he was trying to do things is just as counter productive(IMHO) to the "open source" community as all of these noobs clogging up the pipes that are chasing away members who WANT to contribute!
I'm curious about two devs who had enough money donated to them that they could buy an amaze(and maybe even more), who released ONE rom, and haven't been seen/heard from again.. I didn't have much to contribute(broke ass college student), but I was looking forward to seeing them do more work.
And to someone who posted before me talking about the lack of organization- I agree fully- I think this is a BIG reason why so many noobs are clogging up threads and inboxes-- but isn't that usually solved by good contributors and a good mod?
The Goal
To bring a new standard to the android platform, destroy, improve, rebuild. also, to put aside our egos and opinions and to work together as a community. if you dont like it you can always not use it!
>The journey, I my self will say if you just want the end product please leave this isnt the place. this is here to teach not to give.
Planned features
>Implement WebOS, FFOS or B2G in the the android platform. this is not another rom. it's a new firmware.
>Better multitasking, or true multitasking
>better handling of how the framework corresponding with the system. e.g. caching commonly used thing's for better load time over a crappy connection.
> a patch method so this can be merged with other UI's.
!Want to help?!?!
granted you may doubt yourself, dont just dont. anyone is free to contribute suggest etc. to make things easy here's a template. if you suggest something and it is not in this type of format, sorry it'll be ignored.
:UI
:System
:Hardware/software (E.g Lefty Mode. swapping the buttons layout to fit those who are left handed)
Ideas so far
MIUI theme chooser, say what you will it's a large customization option.
A new UI concept. if you have ideas just copy paste the format and add what you think is good/
Developers working on this
I will update this I ask that any dev interested message me via xda's pm system. title it [community]
SinisterTensai
Flex360
Mazda
Tribulattifather
Cloaker
jamieg71
NineInchNails
PuRE IVIonztah
Rydah805
Ragster (UI/Launcher guy)
tgrgrd00
EVOuser94
Tilde88
edlokien
Dogie52
this OP is subject to change, as more information is collected
thread gathered information
Web OS features, such as?
Social intragration into the android platform, e.g. Facebook, twitter G+ the mobile websites of these perform better than the apps, if we string some apis together for pictures sharing/posting and just load a webpage event in the "Social app" e.g. web.event.load="m.facebook.com" and share.event.activity.camera.post"userdefined_image _id"
suits vs folders string app categories together such as phone, mms, IM. tools calc, gps maps so on so forth. most likely will be a default.xml listing to categorize these into the proper groups. gapps wont be included cause the rom will be AOSP so im thinking calling external apks in a nice defined layout with gesture controls to switch
Focal points
Statusbar, I think It should do more. it's accessed from most apps and important things should go there, not just notifications. a simple mms grid layout with input for mobile number and text input also a list of unread messages. this could also push over to im services.
launcher: the dockbar should be optional imo, im thinking just have the all apps list in a corner with along press the dock pops out, also scroll able. so not just 5 apps sit there (some people dont like having apps on screen.
widgets: yea they're a thing to consider. as for the sense on other launchers, itd be easier to make widgets that look like it than integrate the actual ones
configuration. I think a major lacking point of android is user mapping for key's, why dont we have a leftie option? we all arent right handed. ill keep things in the thread as is so others can express there thoughts and add to this op will be updated later tonight.
OP/OC
So I see that our device has a huge collection of developers such as myself and many others. so I got to thinking (well the ambien did) and I thought (or it) that if all of us joined together and made a community driven rom (im talking better than the synergy collab here people) not just a rom but a little bit of the spirit that drives us enthusiast, noobs kangers scriptkids drunks stoners hell even moderators, any one who loves the ability of a rooted device. if we all came together put aside our differences and alliances just to bring something new, something innovative im not talking about some dinky apk that changes a few features on sense no im talking about something brand spanking new something that will make other device owners envy our device we can do it if we come together and work as a whole for the greater good, or should I say rom?
well who's with me?
noobs, themers users developer lurkers etc come forward step up lets see what ya got! call me a dreamer call me w/e I could care less. this could be the next big thing or the next nothing, it is up to you. ask not what your developer can do for you, but what you can do for your device
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Mazda said:
Even though I don't own this device........I'm down!
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aww shiat mazdas in, any one else???!!?!?!?!
Count in flex360
Reporting for duty
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Why not. Take a look at my Roms and see what you can use from me ^>^
My Roms Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808332
I know little to nothing about programming, but nowhere near computer illiterate either. If I am needed, I'm up for it. Lol
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I'm in love the idea, reminds me of this
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Tribulattifather said:
Why not. Take a look at my Roms and see what you can use from me ^>^
My Roms Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808332
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your location say's it all, whats a box? I do not know of what you speak?
jamieg71 said:
I'm in love the idea, reminds me of this
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oh god not another flesh pipe story &^$!*^!&# HAHAHA!
Sinistertensai said:
So I see that our device has a huge collection of developers such as myself and many others. so I got to thinking (well the ambien did) and I thought (or it) that if all of us joined together and made a community driven rom (im talking better than the synergy collab here people) not just a rom but a little bit of the spirit that drives us enthusiast, noobs kangers scriptkids drunks stoners hell even moderators, any one who loves the ability of a rooted device. if we all came together put aside our differences and alliances just to bring something new, something innovative im not talking about some dinky apk that changes a few features on sense no im talking about something brand spanking new something that will make other device owners envy our device we can do it if we come together and work as a whole for the greater good, or should I say rom?
well who's with me?
noobs, themers users developer lurkers etc come forward step up lets see what ya got! call me a dreamer call me w/e I could care less. this could be the next big thing or the next nothing, it is up to you. ask not what your developer can do for you, but what you can do for your device
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Even though I don't own this device........I'm down!
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Are you down even if he invites kangers?
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hahhhahaha. too funny.
What kind of Rom are you thinking about.. A port or an aosp/cap build?
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Are you down even if he invites kangers?
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dont we all kang from google > linux > unix ????? what can we really claim as our own? we don't reinvent the wheel we just modify it
Tribulattifather said:
hahhhahaha. too funny.
What kind of Rom are you thinking about.. A port or an aosp/cap build?
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many actually all community driven each fellow device owner helping another out all for the greater rom so to speak.
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many actually all community driven each fellow device owner helping another out all for the greater rom so to speak.
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I see. Well, I suppose, since I've already posted something in evo 3d about a project i'm running, here's a link to it and let me know if maybe we post it on the first post. Maybe we can make a list of the projects going on..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35814451&postcount=3064
Sinistertensai said:
dont we all kang from google > linux > unix ????? what can we really claim as our own? we don't reinvent the wheel we just modify it
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That's what I thought but Mazda said that was wrong
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Sounds good. think theres some logistics to figure out like how to go about it and all but that can be figured out.
Like Mazda I don't own this device but I'm down
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Are you down even if he invites kangers?
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Not sure what you mean by that BUT I will say that I'm not going to break any rules or get away from doing things the right way.....even if is not the popular thing to do at the time!
BUT this ain't about me or you or kangers or whatever, this is about something bigger then that!
Let's get this party started!!!!!!!!
thicklizard said:
That's what I thought but Mazda said that was wrong
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put aside the differences and focus on collaborating to get more out of our device(s) the one thing that holds back developers is the ego and politics. so lets do away with that, thanks
thicklizard said:
That's what I thought but Mazda said that was wrong
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Replace "ME" with "US"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
@corsicanu suddenly stops developing of the AOD included AryaMod Note7 Port ROM because of some complaining people who can't wait some hours and keep nagging.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series/development/rom-aryamod-note7-port-v2-1-t3536186
Please, for the people it matters, convince him to continue developing!
He's not lazy to update his ROM and work out solving bugs, he always help!
The ROM is full of great Note 7 functions and he's trying to make it possible and create a bugless ROM, which is STABLE as now!!
Please, XDA members, convince him to come back and resume this great ROM!!!
Well, i dont blame him, not at all.
I myself am no dev, though have learned a lot here through reading, and that is exactly what people ARE NOT DOING, reading. Especially the A Series has a lot of members that dont bother thinking, it takes more time to ask a question rather then just have a search and see if people have asked something similar to you.
Long story short, a lot of members have 0 knowledge, 0 tolerance and 0 patience, but have HIGH expectations. This place is for twiddlers, not for people who want something changed and then disappear.
Remember, people do this for free, 100% out of pure will. Some may see it as a challenge, and some want to help. Even the one who may want donations, 95% of the A Series users are from developing countries, so most of the users here cannot afford to donate, and donations are very important if you want people like corsicanu around.
Me too he has real proplems in real life so he works in free time but everyone is asking for ETAs but he not A ROBOT see this different!!!!!!
@PlutoDelic, @huseein A5 that's known, The thing is, there are people who shouldn't be allowed to post or reply. That's all. He was working on the ROM for free, in freetime. Because of the freshly registered bastards who come here straight after buy their first Samsung phones.
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@PlutoDelic, @huseein A5 that's known, The thing is, there are people who shouldn't be allowed to post or reply. That's all. He was working on the ROM for free, in freetime. Because of the freshly registered bastards who come here straight after buy their first Samsung phones.
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Yes and he is very good man but the time doesn't allows to him to work
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Yes and he is very good man but the time doesn't allows to him to work
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I guess, in this case it wasn't because of time. Because of the users. However, it's well known that developing is a really long process and takes time.
But I wish he could send the deleted link to download the latest version or don't you have it @huseein A5? I was downloading the root files when he deleted them and closed the tread.
I'm truly disappointed @corsicanu!
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I guess, in this case it wasn't because of time. Because of the users. However, it's well known that developing is a really long process and takes time.
But I wish he could send the deleted link to download the latest version or don't you have it @huseein A5? I was downloading the root files when he deleted them and closed the tread.
I'm truly disappointed @corsicanu!
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I will upload on mega but what is your variant
huseein A5 said:
I will upload on mega but what is your variant
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Mine is A500FU, thanks, I'be thankful.
But I'll be happier if he comes back. I really hope so!
I haven't seen a better developer and a better supported A5 ROM yet!
just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
Bulgaricus said:
just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
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Yes you are right
Bulgaricus said:
just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
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We all hope so, dude.
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I will upload on mega but what is your variant
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If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
yellowrobot said:
Mine is A500FU, thanks, I'be thankful.
But I'll be happier if he comes back. I really hope so!
I haven't seen a better developer and a better supported A5 ROM yet!
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Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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I will not give him but my files are ok I flashed it on my device and works now @Bulgaricus build ares kernel supporting A500H using my files and everything ok
@corsicanu is damn right, most of the people act like they are f*cking apes. Leave us do our job, we all have life and sh*t to do! Nothing in this world is perfect, or else to make something good and almost perfect it needs time! Don't act like hungry dogs against the devs, we are doing all our best if you don't like what we do then JUST F*CKING TRY DO IT YA OWN SELF
See I will not upload it and I will delete it from my device if that makes you happy
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If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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I can't even imagine how Google assistant COULD take place in a Marshmallow Touchwiz ROM and of course you're not expected to do the impossible, LOL.
Has anybody seen Assistant in ANY TW-based ROM? Miserable.
On the other hand, yeah, I was thinking about if he might modified some files in it and anyway he couldn't upload and re-use it without your permission.
But you didn't work for nothing. See, loads of us were testing and reporting bugs and the team work was complete.
But the whole thing is over because of some users, who can't see a difference between F and H...
Hope you give us one more chance.
@corsicanu i feel like you when I used a kitchen to re write updater script and everyone was laughing on me I'm just like you do development stuff at free time and make what's your want
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I can't even imagine how Google assistant COULD take place in a Marshmallow Touchwiz ROM and of course you're not expected to do the impossible, LOL.
Has anybody seen Assistant in ANY TW-based ROM? Miserable.
On the other hand, yeah, I was thinking about if he might modified some files in it and anyway he couldn't upload and re-use it without your permission.
But you didn't work for nothing. See, loads of us were testing and reporting bugs and the team work was complete.
But the whole thing is over because of some users, who can't see a difference between F and H...
Hope you give us one more chance.
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For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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@corsicanu i feel like you when I used a kitchen to re write updater script and everyone was laughing on me I'm just like you do development stuff at free time and make what's your want
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No you don't develop stuff. If you develop why don't you port the rom on your own? Why don't you make a kernel? You need to learn much more than "put libril.so in system and set 644 permission"...
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corsicanu said:
For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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No you don't develop stuff. If you develop why don't you port the rom on your own? Why don't you make a kernel? You need to learn much more than "put libril.so in system and set 644 permission"...
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I learned how to port roms but I need to repair my pc and one wise man said
Cheers!!!
corsicanu said:
For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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I'm not gonna be anxious, I totally understand you. I'm not in the Telegram group, though, but it must be full of stupid questions then...
Some people just doesn't deserve an answer. Piss them off, a lot of users can't open developer settings, either.
Anyways, keep it up and we're waiting if you may come back!
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