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Followed the guide from Paul on Modac, while attempting to unlock the bootloader I ran into an error that was resolved by updating fastboot. I successfully rooted,flashed custom rom and booted. I noticed that while in bootloader I went from S-OFF to S-ON. The fast boot error came attempting " 'fastboot flash recovery revolutionary-cwm-4.0.1.4-flyer.newhboot.img' " The error 'Locked' the bootloader. After I updated fastboot above command worked, BUT I was now back to S-On.
What part of the process should I redo in order to get S-OFF back?
What are my limitations with S-ON?
Any thoughts, comments, suggestions and especially solutions are appreciated.
Also the haptic buttons ( same row as pen button) do NOT work. They do not light and are not usable
Yeah the buttons don't work in honeycomb because you have the on screen buttons to do the job.
And It's normal to have s-on. HTC's method only unlocks the bootloader. I'm pretty sure you aren't able to flash kernels or something like that.
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Gumby63 said:
Yeah the buttons don't work in honeycomb because you have the on screen buttons to do the job.
And It's normal to have s-on. HTC's method only unlocks the bootloader. I'm pretty sure you aren't able to flash kernels or something like that.
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I was able to flash a custom rom.
Just got home from work. Revolutionary does not support the HC bootloader version 1.11.0006.
My question is, what part of the process caused my device to go from S-ON->S-OFF-> Back to S-ON?
I know I'm limited now, can I downgrade my bootloader version 1.11.0003 or 1.11.0000?
Thank for your help
ATownI20 said:
I was able to flash a custom rom.
Just got home from work. Revolutionary does not support the HC bootloader version 1.11.0006.
My question is, what part of the process caused my device to go from S-ON->S-OFF-> Back to S-ON?
I know I'm limited now, can I downgrade my bootloader version 1.11.0003 or 1.11.0000?
Thank for your help
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When you first used revolutionary you got complete s-off, and then during the process of upgrading to honeycomb you flashed a new hboot which gave you s-on again because well..It's a new hboot. Lol. And the only way you can downgrade your hboot is to run the ruu for your model flyer to revert back to gingerbread. If you have the US 16gb version then you cannot go back to gingerbread because there isn't a ruu yet.
Hopefully I'm not confusing you more
Revolutionary does not support the HC bootloader version 1.11.0006.
but after unlock bootloader go htc dev.com and unlock bootloader from step by step guaid....after you see in fastboot
"""""""unlocked""""""""
FLYER PVT SHIP S-ON
And flash castom recovery
copy revolutionary-cwm-4.0.1.4-flyer.newhboot.img in to dir (you create dir ,by htc dev guaid)
and run command in cmd
fastboot flash recovery revolutionary-cwm-4.0.1.4-flyer.newhboot.img' this recovery support all castom Rom based on Honeycomb
S-Off not needed for you.
Sorry my bad English...
Gumby63 said:
When you first used revolutionary you got complete s-off, and then during the process of upgrading to honeycomb you flashed a new hboot which gave you s-on again because well..It's a new hboot. Lol. And the only way you can downgrade your hboot is to run the ruu for your model flyer to revert back to gingerbread. If you have the US 16gb version then you cannot go back to gingerbread because there isn't a ruu yet.
Hopefully I'm not confusing you more
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No not really confused by your explanation. What confuses me if is the process was suppose to give me S-OFF in the first place. I understand the logic of the new hboot being S-ON. But if you're following me you kinda see where I'm thinking 0_o lol.
piramida13 said:
Revolutionary does support the HC bootloader version 1.11.0006.
but only after unlock bootloader , go htc dev.com and unlock bootloader from step by step guaid....after you see in fastboot
"""""""unlocked""""""""
FLYER PVT SHIP S-ON
copy revolutionary-cwm-4.0.1.4-flyer.newhboot.img in to dir (you create dir ,by htc dev guaid)
and run command in cmd
fastboot flash recovery revolutionary-cwm-4.0.1.4-flyer.newhboot.img'
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So I'm not suppose to have S-OFF after running that command?
I think that's what he is saying. My bootloader was a totally different one. So I don't really have any knowledge. What I would do is go into the development forum and do a quick search and see if anyone answered the question or had a similar problem and fixed. It helps out a lot. I don't want to give you knowledge and mess anything up on your end.
ATownI20 said:
No not really confused by your explanation. What confuses me if is the process was suppose to give me S-OFF in the first place. I understand the logic of the new hboot being S-ON. But if you're following me you kinda see where I'm thinking 0_o lol.
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haha the process of going to honeycomb was not supposed to give you s-off, simply an unlocked bootloader. I think i'm following you
My understanding of the situation is the hboot that is required to install HC sets s-on, and currently it is not possible to change it back to s-off without reverting back to the original hboot using the RUU. Even if you changed back to the original hboot, honeycomb would no longer boot.
At least, that's my understanding.
The only way right now to get S-OFF is with HBOOT versions 1.11.0000 and 1.11.0003. Since you have 1.11.0006, needed for running HC on the Flyer, Revolutionary doesn't support it, so right now you can only have the unlocked boot loader and S-ON. If you run the Revolutionary tool with HBOOT 1.11.0006, it will tell you it is not supported, and won't run.
The only way it would be supported is when the AlphaRev/Unrevoked team update their tool to support it. So running that command listed above does cause this, but it is required in order to run HC on the Flyer. Without it, I don't know if you'd have a $300 brick or what.
Parastie said:
My understanding of the situation is the hboot that is required to install HC sets s-on, and currently it is not possible to change it back to s-off without reverting back to the original hboot using the RUU. Even if you changed back to the original hboot, honeycomb would no longer boot.
At least, that's my understanding.
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Thanks chief... I was just a little confused as the guides talked about permanent S-OFF... But if S-ON is how I'm suppose to be right now, then S-ON it is! lol...
I am in the same boat
Just Upgraded and noticed S-on as well...
what am I limited to with S-ON.. and whats the *UNLOCKED* mean?
*UNLOCKED*
FLYER PVT SHIP S_ON RL
HBOOT 1.11.006
MICROP 0850
Radio-3821.08.00.26
eMM-BOOT
*UNLOCKED*
FLYER PVT SHIP S_ON RL
HBOOT 1.11.006
MICROP 0850
Radio-3821.08.00.26
eMM-BOOT
I have exactly the same issue.
is there anyway out of S-ON?
So I have an evo 4g with unrevoked s-off, an evo 3d with revolutionary s-soff, and an evo view 4g with revolutionary s-off.
Now my understanding with unrevoked is that the s-off is permanent and not tied to the hboot. Meaning it does not matter if the hboot is updated after the device is already s-off. I have used various RUU exe's to reset my evo4g without losing soff, simply flashing recovery via hboot will allow me to reroot or flash a different rom.
But from what I am gathering about revolutionary, is that the s-off is tied to the hboot, so that if you upgrade hboot then you lose the s-off?
Is this correct?
What is preventing us from getting an unrevoked type of s-off?
TeknoJnky said:
But from what I am gathering about revolutionary, is that the s-off is tied to the hboot, so that if you upgrade hboot then you lose the s-off?
Is this correct?
What is preventing us from getting an unrevoked type of s-off?
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Well yes and no. As far as we know the Revolutionary's S-Off is "permeant". However the official View's HC built has a different HBoot which is required to use with HC, and it needs to be updated in order to use HC. Thus why there are many reports of S-Off GB device has soft-brick after accepting the official HC update (but was able to revert back to GB with RUU).
Until the devs get their hands on the new HBoot we'll just either have to wait or go back to S-ON and stick with the HC and new HBoot.
Why? Lack of popularity on the View's end. Flyer is a world-wide device while View is State-bond only. But given time, it'll be solved.
read up on the difference between ENG S-OFF and RADIO S-OFF if you what to know the difference.
The issue here is the fact the HC hboot is modified for the flyer and view in a way we don't normally have to deal with. If there was an official HTC unlock for the view, I would say by all means go ahead and upgrade and we'll fix the S-OFF later, but there is not so you have to either wait or go back completely stock and stay that way for the foreseeable future.
globatron said:
read up on the difference between ENG S-OFF and RADIO S-OFF if you what to know the difference.
The issue here is the fact the HC hboot is modified for the flyer and view in a way we don't normally have to deal with. If there was an official HTC unlock for the view, I would say by all means go ahead and upgrade and we'll fix the S-OFF later, but there is not so you have to either wait or go back completely stock and stay that way for the foreseeable future.
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I get my View in the next few days so i should leave it stock
or
Root it via your instructions in the other thread and not accept the HC update. Just wait until you have a method to go to HC.
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
JDogHerman said:
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
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You can brick your device!
Forgive my ignorance, but if you are s-off, why would you want to do this? I thought 1.5 s-off was just as good as1.4 s-off.
Sent from my PG86100
When set at 1.5 you cant change the splash screen or radio. or other settings.
Also Bricking it is what I need to do to convert it to 1.4 BUT I cant to that until I have S-ON. Correct?
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
birddog_61 said:
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
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^Exactly this. If you read the first post of that thread (especially the gigantic red letters and what is under that), it will tell you to NOT brick an S-off phone as it will permanently brick it. You just need to flash the 1.4 bootloader.
birddog_61 said:
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
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i had the same problem as OP. i think the issue with 1.5 is even though its s-off, the bootloader is still locked and therefore a recovery cant be flashed and root cant be gained.
Ive been looking for the standalone hboot 1.4 ruu so i didnt have to do what op originally suggested
You have all of my thanks
alexjzim said:
i had the same problem as OP. i think the issue with 1.5 is even though its s-off, the bootloader is still locked and therefore a recovery cant be flashed and root cant be gained.
Ive been looking for the standalone hboot 1.4 ruu so i didnt have to do what op originally suggested
You have all of my thanks
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Ya I didn't even think about revolutionary only working with 1.4 or below that must be the problem. You are welcome for the help, I just figured most of this out about a week ago when I had to do the downgrade after unlocking with htc method.
I would fastboot oem lock then do HTC's unlock again.
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kiewee3 said:
I would fastboot oem lock then do HTC's unlock again.
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You have to HTC Unlock the device first, then do the fastboot oem lock (if you don't it will say "Device was already locked!" message)
JDogHerman said:
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
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If you are S-OFF you can flash any bootloader you want...no need to go back to S-on....I found a few bootloader versions on here and flashed them back and forth when trying different roms.....once your S-OFF you should never return...lol
I was thinking of taking it to Sprint for a replacement cuz of 4G not working, but then I thought, WHEN ON EARTH do I use 4G??? LOL It's always off...
I'm on hboot 1.12. I've seen some talk about updating my hboot//firmware to the most recent version. it seems like a bit of a process. Can someone tell me the benefit of doing this? Also, if someone could explain how i can do this? thank you so much!
Im on Mean Rom 4.1
thank you
Most important question: are you S-OFF?
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Never update your hboot. Updating firmware is a good idea. Definitely get s-off if you haven't already.
Its not a "process" at all.... you just flash it either from recovery or from H-boot depending on if you are S-ON or S-OFF
And you want to update radio and firmware, no tthe Hboot
I think what you may be referring to is relocking and running the RUU to update your firmware. Sure that can be a bit involved, but if you're S-OFF updating firmware is really easy and you don't have to mess with any of that stuff. Like the others have said, since you're 1.12 you should go get S-OFF and then flash the firmware (minus the hboot).
Definitely get s-off, s-on unlocked is a guilded cage
Even if he is S-ON it doesnt matter. Hboot 1.12 can update through recovery
Yea but soff is better
I thought with 1.12 s-on you could only update the radio but the other firmware bits were off limits?
Sent from my EVO LTE
The security is different on 1.12, its practically non existent (compared to hboots 1.15 and 1.19) when you unlock but to have full write access to nand you need soff
I have my EVO HBOOt 1.53 (JopunutBear) S-off stock 4.0 rom. Now when i flash jb or ics custom roms i get a bootlop.
What can i do?
So have i to downgrade to hboot 1.49? If yes how to do this.
Yes i tried severyl things like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172&page=10 [ bootloader doesnt find pg86img.zip]
and other s-off guides but nothing really works
Thanks for help
Are you putting the pg file in the root of your sdcard or in a separate file folder?
( Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
yes i put it in root. how big is the rigt pg file. i have one with about 324kb and one with about 300mb
luisniklas said:
yes i put it in root. how big is the rigt pg file. i have one with about 324kb and one with about 300mb
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That one with about 384 kB. Then, turn off your phone, turn it on in bootloader (volume down + power on). Wait a little and it will ask you to update. Press volume up, and wait. After that you have to delete that PG file from sd card. (that pg 300 MB has a rom on it..thats why it is so big)
Sent from my EVO 3D GSM, using XDA Premium
If the bootloader doesn't find the zip, make sure it's named PG86IMG.zip (capitalization as is) and make sure there is no double zip extension.
Here my BL. It Doesnt find the small PG file.
Does it something has to do with my JoupunutBear HBOOT 1.52.7777
Are there other ways to downgrade hboot with s-off?
Can i flash JoupunutBear HBOOT 1.49 from unlimited.io?
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If you can boot into your ROM then just check whether your phone is recognizing data on your sdcard. Sometimes after the wire trick sdcards tend to flip out. Your pc might be detecting it fine but the phone might not. Just humor me and try playing a song or something from the card just to rule out this possibility
Sent from my Evo 3D GSM
i will try this. is hboot downgarde the only way to get custom roms working?
EDIT:SD works
What about cid for pg file? i have htc_102. i tried fastboot oem writecid 1111111 and htc_01 but nothing changed.
Cid shouldn't be a problem with the zip from that thread. Try running an RUU and then downgrading hboot
EM|NEM said:
Cid shouldn't be a problem with the zip from that thread. Try running an RUU and then downgrading hboot
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A ics ruu? How too downgrade then?
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Solved it. Only flahed JB hb0ot 1.49 Form unlimited.io
@mods plus Close
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I have the same problem as you and I had. I need help, step by step. Do you just use HBOOT 1:49 and below = Gingerbread or you first installed the GB ruu, etc..
MeisterRoerich said:
I have my EVO HBOOt 1.53 (JopunutBear) S-off stock 4.0 rom. Now when i flash jb or ics custom roms i get a bootlop.
What can i do?
So have i to downgrade to hboot 1.49? If yes how to do this.
Yes i tried severyl things like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172&page=10 [ bootloader doesnt find pg86img.zip]
and other s-off guides but nothing really works
Thanks for help
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If you are still having issues let me know. I have recently had the same problem as yourself.
With hboot 1.53 you can only run ICS ROMs but if you are not able to run ICS either I would use a 4EXT recovery then enable smart flash (I know this should only matter when s-on is worth a go) Also use fastboot to flash the boot.img from what ever ROM you have chosen just incase it's an issue with that.
PG86img.zip files are CID specific and need to be for your location and carrier (from my understanding) unless you have a super CID which is 11111111 (denoting a factory unlocked device, but don't quote me)
I too have a 1.53.0007 hboot and also am having trouble finding a solution to hboot changes once you are s-off with that hboot. How I got that hboot after gaining s-off is beyond me but it seems I am not alone and if that hboot can be put in it HAS to be able to change it. The easiest way that I can think of is to gain s-on (I haven't looked hard enough for that yet though) then to s-off again and make the hboot update that way.
by the way (now I can't find it's exact meaning and am choked) I was really surprised that the beer reference had more than just a catchy ring to it. Engineering something or other, I shoulda wrote it down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172
the PG86IMG in this thread is compatible with all CIDs. as long as you are s-off you can change your hboot easily using this thread
EM|NEM said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172
the PG86IMG in this thread is compatible with all CIDs. as long as you are s-off you can change your hboot easily using this thread
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Thank you so much. And now I'm able to flash jellybean ROMs I think I'll stick with the ICS one I am using (King Cobra, I think could be Cool though) as it is great on batteries and everything works great. And I get to freak people out with the creepy 3d camera. lol.
machv5 said:
If you are still having issues let me know. I have recently had the same problem as yourself.
With hboot 1.53 you can only run ICS ROMs but if you are not able to run ICS either I would use a 4EXT recovery then enable smart flash (I know this should only matter when s-on is worth a go) Also use fastboot to flash the boot.img from what ever ROM you have chosen just incase it's an issue with that.
PG86img.zip files are CID specific and need to be for your location and carrier (from my understanding) unless you have a super CID which is 11111111 (denoting a factory unlocked device, but don't quote me)
I too have a 1.53.0007 hboot and also am having trouble finding a solution to hboot changes once you are s-off with that hboot. How I got that hboot after gaining s-off is beyond me but it seems I am not alone and if that hboot can be put in it HAS to be able to change it. The easiest way that I can think of is to gain s-on (I haven't looked hard enough for that yet though) then to s-off again and make the hboot update that way.
by the way (now I can't find it's exact meaning and am choked) I was really surprised that the beer reference had more than just a catchy ring to it. Engineering something or other, I shoulda wrote it down
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I just flashed hboot from joupnut bear
MeisterRoerich said:
I just flashed hboot from joupnut bear
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I am assuming that your phone wasn't S-OFF at the time? I accidentally tried to S-OFF one of my EVO 3Ds (GSM) that was already S-OFF at the time and I got a "WOW!!! What are you doing. Your phone appears to be S-OFF already. Doing so again could result in impotence, and death" or words to that effect. Basically a gaudy do you want your phone to die type of a message. If your device was S-OFF to begin with I was not aware that you could use Juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT version without going through the whole S-OFF process. Can you give some more details as to your phones state (i.e., HBOOT version, S-ON or S-OFF, etc...) before you used juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT. Thanks
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I am assuming that your phone wasn't S-OFF at the time? I accidentally tried to S-OFF one of my EVO 3Ds (GSM) that was already S-OFF at the time and I got a "WOW!!! What are you doing. Your phone appears to be S-OFF already. Doing so again could result in impotence, and death" or words to that effect. Basically a gaudy do you want your phone to die type of a message. If your device was S-OFF to begin with I was not aware that you could use Juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT version without going through the whole S-OFF process. Can you give some more details as to your phones state (i.e., HBOOT version, S-ON or S-OFF, etc...) before you used juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT. Thanks
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I s-OFFed my phone (Hboot 1.53 or sth.) with jouponut bear and then i flashed hboot 1,49.999 fro here: http://unlimited.io/jbhboots.htm
There is a thread about how exacly you can downgrade your hboot, maybe could be better explained but study the forum a bit more... I also had that problem and after two days searching and downloading all kinds of files I did it...
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