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I'll start this thread noting that I've come from an iPhone 3GS and came to expect things to open and close smoothly. That being said, I do know that you need to keep an eye on open apps through a task manager and close out things that you don't need on the Android OS, but I feel like this device just can't hang with other smartphones currently.
I'm constantly nagged with keypresses lagging for over a second, half of the time when I'm trying to type quickly it will register a single button press as a long press and I end up getting the alt key instead of the plain letter.
I have a fresh load of the MoDaCo ROM and ever since I received the phone a week ago I've been severely disappointed. Attempting to answer phone calls ends up with the screen telling me to drag down to answer and is completely unresponsive, but sometimes answers the call and sometimes just turns on the speaker and mic, but doesn't connect the call.
I've removed footprints, as well as stocks from the base ROM to pull out anything I wouldn't need. My understanding is that should only have a positive impact on performance.
Menus are sluggish to say the least, often times taking 1-3 seconds just to open a sub-menu.
Did I just get a bum phone that someone tried to pawn off because there might be something wrong with it? Is this the behavior that people have been experiencing from the HTC Hero? Does anyone know a way to speed this little bugger up and make it useful?
I've installed the Overclock widget and set it to 528mhz and verified that it's still set there each time I've rebooted the phone, as well as using Android Task Manager to keep a select few applications as "do not close" so that the phone doesn't freak out and try to reload a bunch of apps.
I'm about to throw this damn phone out the window currently. I absolutely loved my G1 when I had it, and this thing feels like it's two or three steps DOWN from that phone.
Please, help me actually want to keep my phone. I LOVE the Android OS, and I love the form factor and sound quality.
i came from a hermes to the hero.. and its fooking awsomes, the lag you are getting is non existant on my hero, its a stock t-moblie as i is on contract with it atm and dont wanna risk screwing up and my insurance says F U!
if they could make a hero with a iphone screen i would be be a very VERY happy man.
sure its just not the rom u flashed? try flashing another? i used to get hassel with my hermes if it did not like the rom (wm6.5 for one it hated it but some loved it)
I might try out another ROM, but the only one that I thought I'd seen was the MoDaCo. I will have to look around the forums to see if there are any others that I can attempt to flash to my Hero. I suppose if all else fails I can just get a rooted base ROM and install WiFi tethering from there, since it's an app that I use on a VERY regular basis.
I've never updated from the original 1.5 ROM I received on my unlocked white hero. It is a bit laggy when using the Sense UI. However, when I "revert" to the Android OS Home screen (by disabling Sense UI / Touch Flo) it is VERY responsive. And that is fine for me......
I have the Hero and an iPhone 3GS and the Hero is very laggy in comparison. We have a few Android devices here in work to test/evaluate and none f them are without lag. No matter what people say I can't help thinking that they are looking through rose tinted glasses or refure point blank that the device they chose coudl possibly be less than perfect.
If you use an iPhone 3GS along side the Hero then the lag is very apparent. Scrolling through TouchFLO, scrolling the menu, typing, all have lag no matter how often I use Takiller.
pritsey said:
I have the Hero and an iPhone 3GS and the Hero is very laggy in comparison. We have a few Android devices here in work to test/evaluate and none f them are without lag. No matter what people say I can't help thinking that they are looking through rose tinted glasses or refure point blank that the device they chose coudl possibly be less than perfect.
If you use an iPhone 3GS along side the Hero then the lag is very apparent. Scrolling through TouchFLO, scrolling the menu, typing, all have lag no matter how often I use Takiller.
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Bear in mind android isn't there that long and the Iphone is... Iphone won't improve Android will.
I updated my hero to the last official rom and I don't think it lags at all.
But I didn't own an Iphone, so I wouldn't know how it compares to that.
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I'm about to throw this damn phone out the window currently. I absolutely loved my G1 when I had it, and this thing feels like it's two or three steps DOWN from that phone.
If that's the case, send the darn thing back. It's supposed to be faster then the G1 and I haven't heard anyone saying it's not except you. Also waiting 3?! seconds for a submenu seems impossible, they almost instantly pop up here.
Also:
but I feel like this device just can't hang with other smartphones currently.
I had a diamond and had a play with the diamond 2, both don´t even come close to the hero, same with the touch HD
Sorry to say but I think yours has some issues that are not fixable by any software updates. Send it back.
Unfortunately I purchased the phone from someone on another forum, so there is little/no chance of ever getting a replacement since I wasn't the person who originally purchased it.
I've tried reloading the MoDaCo 2.9 ROM with the Teknologist kernal after formatting my SD card and re-creating the ext2 and swap partitions.
It's running a bit faster, but it's still frustrating that this device is so slow in comparison to my wife's 3GS. I can type more than 1 letter per second on the keyboard and only occasionally get the problem with the key registering a long press.
I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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Try not killing anything at all, and leaving Android to handle it. Whilst some people swear by task killers, others (myself included) don't use them and often we're the ones who don't seem to suffer from excessive lag!
BTW - comparing the Hero to the iPhone 3GS is always going to be a bit unfair, because the 3GS has a vastly superior processor. Comparisons to an iPhone 3G are far more apposite.
Regards,
Dave
don't use swap, especially on a slow sd card. android will only be dragged down by using swap, because then it does not close applications automatically as long as it does not run out of memory.
also, using a faster sd card might improve your overall experience with modaco.
foxmeister said:
Try not killing anything at all, and leaving Android to handle it. Whilst some people swear by task killers, others (myself included) don't use them and often we're the ones who don't seem to suffer from excessive lag!
BTW - comparing the Hero to the iPhone 3GS is always going to be a bit unfair, because the 3GS has a vastly superior processor. Comparisons to an iPhone 3G are far more apposite.
Regards,
Dave
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I should clarify myself with that. I try to kill things like Market, Facebook, UniWar and Browser through the day.
I notice that if I leave any of those apps open it's going to turn into a slideshow afterward. I would say that after having the phone turned on for more than 60 minutes, if I try to play UniWar, by the end of a few turns, the game has almost stopped responding as a whole. It's frustrating as the final decision to move back to the Android platform was the fact that this game was available here, since I play it with my officemate during the day.
TooSlo said:
Unfortunately I purchased the phone from someone on another forum, so there is little/no chance of ever getting a replacement since I wasn't the person who originally purchased it.
I've tried reloading the MoDaCo 2.9 ROM with the Teknologist kernal after formatting my SD card and re-creating the ext2 and swap partitions.
It's running a bit faster, but it's still frustrating that this device is so slow in comparison to my wife's 3GS. I can type more than 1 letter per second on the keyboard and only occasionally get the problem with the key registering a long press.
I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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2.9 doesnt need a swap partition it uses compcache also upgrade to an ext3 or ext4 partition 2.9 is actually a blindingly fast rom.
Tried 2 hero's of some friends of mine yesterday, all the official latest htc rom.
And all of them respond like mine, no need for mcr 2.9 or whatever.
I've said it before, I don't think this is a rom problem, maybe defect ram memory or something.
I would definitely try disabling swapper. If you are using swapper, you are giving the Android memory management routines no chance to improve your experience because the don't know that you're out of physical memory and are swapping to flash memory that is going to be an order of magnitude or two slower than the physical RAM.
Regards,
Dave
So I've upgraded the Ext2 to an Ext3 partition and everything "felt" a little better, but I keep running into the fact that my phone just does NOT like to respond when woken up.
It's incredibly slow to be able to pull down the notification tab or move from the "main" screen in any way. I've ordered a new SD card and will reformat and only use the Data/Ext3 partition when possible, I'm just at a loss of why this type of behavior would happen.
Is this a result of using my phone to sync with my work Exchange server? I only have it set to ping the server every 15 minutes, but man, the phone becomes useless when it's attempting to sync over EDGE. I can't get ANY type of connectivity, even through games that only process 20-40k/hr data usage.
Are there "no-no" type applications to stay away from? I've removed every widget aside the WiFi toggle and Overclock Widget. I'm just tired of rebooting my phone every couple hours.
afaik there is no working overclock app/widget for hero, try removing that.
there is the option of wiping to see whether the problem continues.
seems to me like the Modaco rom is the problem. a lot of people are on the stock Hero rom and don't get any lag at all and certainly don't need to reboot the phone so often...
It's not the Modaco ROM - I've been using Modaco since the first versions, and it is fine.
HOWEVER.....
I've never bothered with Apps2SD or Swapper, and I'm pretty certain that Swapper is going to cause problems.
Regards,
Dave
I'm pretty sure the hero will never be as smooth or quick as the iPhone... you just have to decide whether you can live how smooth the hero is. On Mocado 2.8 and not using any task manager I definitely can.
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So I've received my 4gb Class 6 card, created a 1GB Ext3 partition, no swap partition and reloaded MoDaCo 2.9. I've also tried this with a stock rooted image as well. These results apply to both ROMs I've loaded.
At first it "felt" somewhat fast, but then after adding the following, it's just dreadfully slow.
Exchange email
UniWar
Handcent SMS
Advanced Task Killer
Systray Monitor
ShootMe (never running)
Better Terminal Emulator
Apps Installer
I don't really think any of those should have this type of negative impact on the phone, though I have noticed that my Exchange email does take an extremely long time to sync, but it seems isolated to this device.
My Exchange settings are:
Size Limit - 5kb
Frequency - 15 minutes
Past Mail - 3 days
Include attachments - Never
Reply w/ original text - Yes
Always BCC - no
Those seem to be the only things that are currently ever running.
Are there major conflicts that I should know about with any of those apps?
Even with a fresh install, properly partitioned SD card, current version of both the MoDaCo as well as stock rooted ROM.
Anyone?
So I have had my HD2 for about 2 months and have been reluctant to add Android because I believe this WinMo 6.5 can work well. CHT has been an awesome addition but after a couple of weeks I experienced freezing and ultimately the phone hard reset itself. I turned it off and when it turned back on, it was at the startup screen and all my info was gone. So I replaced all my contacts and began slowly adding my apps back on. I have been using the newest Opera 10 for my browser and noticed that when the phone freezes every couple of weeks and I have to reset it (3 times now) it is right after trying to open the browser, it gives me a long error about the operamvi4 or something to that effect. So I removed the browser and am wondering a few things
Has anyone else had this problem?
What does it mean that the browser is not working with my otherwise stock phone?
What browser should I use, tried Skyfire and it would not connect to its server, so i uninstalled it.
Ive been using Iexplorer, but am not at all thrilled with its ease of use or it download screen.
I would think that after hard resetting this phone that problems would not happen, but even running stock, I still have issues.
BTW, I want CHT back on my phone but am reluctant now because after a week to 2 weeks, the phone freezes and I have to HR.
Please help, I know this is a long ramble, but I just want to know if I can do anything before talking to TMobile for a hour and half before they send me a new one.
Thanks
Ken
A lot of people have had issues with the stock roms on the hd2. I would recommend going with a custom rom.
Also, when you use android on the hd2, you won't be losing winmo... android runs off of the SD card, so you can have both on your phone. Use winmo for most of the time, then play around in android when you want to play games or use android apps. That's what I do.
But for now, I recommend reading up on how to install hspl and flash your phone... your phone will be much more stable and usable with a good custom rom. Energy roms are a good rom to flash for your first time... and there are versions with cht2.0 cooked in already.
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ive always found opera 9.7 that comes as stock to be the best browser.
+1 on the energy roms too....
I'd say my HD2 froze at least 3-4 times per day with the stock ROM, I was so pissed & thought I'd wasted $200 on the upgrade. But then I thought, what the heck it's no good to me this way so before I sell it on ebay I'll mess with a custom ROM to see if that helps. Well help it did and I kept it around a little longer but still needed to reboot a couple of times a day just to speed things up. Then android came along and I only see winmo when I update builds, to me it's so much better than winmo I wonder whats the point of 7, really who cares? Android is easy to work with once you get to the point of being able to flash a custom rom, try it.
In general, we all know that PCs running Win-doze tend to accumulate junk, registry errors, etc. that slow them down. Does the same sort of gradual performance degradation happen on an Android device over time?
I mean, I've never kept the same ROM on any device more than a month, so I'm not able to evaluate it, but I do love the snappy fresh feel of a newly flashed ROM.
If it does happen, I'd assume it's simply due to the overly zealous installation of every program under the Sun.
I try to keep my devices running as Spartan as possible, but is there any long-term maintanance that one can do for an Android device apart from a factory reset or reflash that can keep things runing in top shape?
I periodically delete cache and dalvik and repair permissions, just in case, or if I have a problem, but I'm curious about this.
Anyone? Opine away.
I don't know if using android accumulates junk overtime, but my sgs 2 is still running as fast as it did since I flashed it, at least I think so. However whilst I offer no proof whatsoever, i believe android is the windows of our time.
Kailkti said:
I don't know if using android accumulates junk overtime, but my sgs 2 is still running as fast as it did since I flashed it, at least I think so. However whilst I offer no proof whatsoever, i believe android is the windows of our time.
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What do you mean by that? The windows of our time in what way?
In the sense that it is successful but no substance. Meaning it is popular but how the system handles its resources is behind in comparison to the other mobile OSes. E.g. The lack of HW acceleration, battery life, ram usage.
Edit: maybe popular isn't the right word. Maybe it's more like it works, but how it works is behind in comparison to others.
I have experienced a noticeable performance degradation of my milestone running cm6 over time (it has been about 4 months since I changed to this rom).
But I have managed to get it running swift again by removing about 60% of installed apps, so I think that, like windows, it doesn't handle well installing too many apps.
It's not just cm6 I experienced the same with other roms I tested.
You just bumped a thread from last October in the I9100 forums to post about a completely different phone?
Hi,
First of all, I did a forum search and it seems that not a lot of people are experiencing the same problem as me with the GS3 (almost all related entries are about HOX).
I own an international Galaxy S3, recently updated to Jelly Bean (Vodafone Spain firmware). Thing is multitasking management in my device is a complete crap... for instance, if I open the Kindle app (or the web browser or any other app), then open another app, wait 20 secs and open Kindle again through the multitasking button... it works as expected, reopening the app in the same state it was... but if I wait around 4 or 5 minutes, multitasking doesnt work, this means when I try to reopen the previous app, the S3 redraws it (refreshes it) so I lose the page i was reading on Kindle or the webpage and scroll I had opened in Chrome, etc etc etc.
It just seems to me that memory management in this device goes like this: "Do a kill -9 to every running app process after a given (short) amount of time".
I really like Android and all that but, coming from an iPhone 4 as my previous phone, I've got to say that multitasking management in iOS was far superior... I could reopen apps that had been several hours in background and it always saved the app state, never experiencing these annoying "refreshes" or "redraws" or whatever it's called.
Is there any fix for this? Maybe some custom ROM with better memory management??
I just want to subscribe this thread. Interesting question!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888081
There, enjoy 7+ apps at the same time.
There are several threads about this already... I know, because I made one of them and there was another one with the same subject. ("Multitasking issues?" And the other one was something with ram
To the topic, I'm having the same issues, but on the galaxy S2 I didn't experience such problems. I don't know but something is really f***** up with the memory management...
You can try making a swap partition, there is a thread somewhere on here about how to make one. That'll dump some memory on the SD CARD. Instead of killing the app..
I can assure you it is not a general android problem. As on the s2 with the same amount of memory (1gb) I didn't have any problems. I thought this phone would be an upgrade.. it is in many ways, but the memory management is really a huge let down...
So my recommendation for you is to first try to remove the bloatware (apps of Samsung or other using memory which you don't need) and see if it makes a change.
If you're still not satisfied try the swap partition.
This phone with it's current software configuration needed 1.5gb of Ram, but with some mods and tweaks you'll be fine!
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Same problem here
http://android.caotic.it/2012/10/samsung-galaxy-s3-presto-jelly-bean-4-1-2-con-multi-window/
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Put Samsung and Google against the wall...
I'd argue that it is a general android issue. I had exactly the same problem with a htc One X, which also has a high res screen and only 1Gb of mem.
I think the problems with the S3 is ignored because lots of the reports on the web about the S3 is about the US version, which runs fine on it's 2Gb.
This IS a big issue, and i wish someone with a bit of authority would stand up and put Samsung and Google against the wall.
The customers shouldn't have to tweak the OS by adding adding virtual memory management, and whatnot to get basic functionality working.
I had no problems running web radio software in the background on my htc Desire, but with my S3 I can't have anything in the background basically.
This really needs to be resolved. I'd rather have a simpler launcher and having RAM enough to keep stuff running in the background.
I'm running JB since a week ago now, and the behaviour is the same.
I must say I'm dissapointed with Android, first having to live with the Desire for years, that came with next to no space to install apps and now th S3 having no RAM to run in...
Hans
GS3 Swedish 9300 w 4.1
hassebasse said:
I'd argue that it is a general android issue. I had exactly the same problem with a htc One X, which also has a high res screen and only 1Gb of mem.
I think the problems with the S3 is ignored because lots of the reports on the web about the S3 is about the US version, which runs fine on it's 2Gb.
This IS a big issue, and i wish someone with a bit of authority would stand up and put Samsung and Google against the wall.
The customers shouldn't have to tweak the OS by adding adding virtual memory management, and whatnot to get basic functionality working.
I had no problems running web radio software in the background on my htc Desire, but with my S3 I can't have anything in the background basically.
This really needs to be resolved. I'd rather have a simpler launcher and having RAM enough to keep stuff running in the background.
I'm running JB since a week ago now, and the behaviour is the same.
I must say I'm dissapointed with Android, first having to live with the Desire for years, that came with next to no space to install apps and now th S3 having no RAM to run in...
Hans
GS3 Swedish 9300 w 4.1
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Remember, this is the first Jellybean update batch, there should be tons of updates later fixing bugs instead of getting it "working", 1GB is enough when managed properly.
hassebasse said:
I'd argue that it is a general android issue. I had exactly the same problem with a htc One X, which also has a high res screen and only 1Gb of mem.
I think the problems with the S3 is ignored because lots of the reports on the web about the S3 is about the US version, which runs fine on it's 2Gb.
This IS a big issue, and i wish someone with a bit of authority would stand up and put Samsung and Google against the wall.
The customers shouldn't have to tweak the OS by adding adding virtual memory management, and whatnot to get basic functionality working.
I had no problems running web radio software in the background on my htc Desire, but with my S3 I can't have anything in the background basically.
This really needs to be resolved. I'd rather have a simpler launcher and having RAM enough to keep stuff running in the background.
I'm running JB since a week ago now, and the behaviour is the same.
I must say I'm dissapointed with Android, first having to live with the Desire for years, that came with next to no space to install apps and now th S3 having no RAM to run in...
Hans
GS3 Swedish 9300 w 4.1
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The US 2gb version has a max hidden app limit of 50 hence no complaints.
The others have a 20 max hidden app limit.
Most android devices have a 15 max hidden app limit and some sense roms it's as low as 10.
How do I know?
Because I fixed it
http://goo.gl/IvGL1
There are other vital changes that I make but Maximum Overdrive the biggie.
Skander1998 said:
Remember, this is the first Jellybean update batch, there should be tons of updates later fixing bugs instead of getting it "working", 1GB is enough when managed properly.
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The problems are identical on 4.0.4, and I've not seen any acknowledgement on the issues neither from Samsung or Google. I used to think the Apple believers were the most tolerant to absent functionality, but this really puts us on the top as android users. I would probably accept it from a low end device for $100, but the S3 is the pinnacle, the superphone, in short, the dogs bollocks, or awesome, like a hundred billion hotdogs.
I think it just stinks and the thought of having to keep using the S3 every day for a year or two in the current sorry state really pisses me off. The thing is it's my work phone, and I don't expect I'll get a new premium phone if I try 'scrapgrading' it. If it was mine, I'll sell it in a hartbeat.
/Hans
The same non-existing multitasking brought me here. I got my GSG3 on Saturday, 4 days ago. Am loving it so far.
But one thing I was looking forward the most is mostly absent: switching between apps without them reloading every time I access them again.
I had a HTC Sensation (768mb RAM) where as soon as I left the browser and returned to it, the page was being reloaded, even if I just left quickly for checking my mails or whatsapp. Not cool if you're surfng on your mobile network and have a datacap. Same goes for Games.
Then I had a Xperia S (1 GB Ram) for a few weeks. Same crap. Even if I didn't leave the game but just clicked the standby button, the game would reload when unlockign the phone a few minutes later.
Am really disappointed to see this happen all over again with the Galaxy S3. iOS might not have real multitasking, but I'd take it any day over the crap we are being served.
Just ****ing freeze the app if you can't make it run constantly in the background, I don't care, I just want it to resume EXACTLY where I left it.
I always had the impression its because of low RAM. Even with the SGS3, my RAM is usually something like 730/833mb without really doing anything. Even after clearing memory it's still 614/833mb used. Of course stuff's gonna close.
I really wanted to go for a 2GB model but there simply is nothing on the market here in europe apart from the new Nexus 4. I actually wanted that one real bad - until I learned about 16GB, no SD Card slot and non-removable battery.
So yeah the SGS3 is awesome in many ways, but this blows. I have yet to find a phone that satisfies all my needs. Oh well maybe with the S4, but there's always something isn't it?>.<
before S3 a had a HTC Sensation..multi tasking din't work at all, it always refresh|reload apps
on S3 and android 4.0.4 i think multitasking work better but not so good
as far as i know the only one phone work well with multitasking is Google Nexus and the phones with clean OS from Google.
others brand make modification with OS for their launcher etc and multitasking was broken
This problem is so annoying. Even on my HTC Desire HD switching between apps worked better. I really hate Samsung for all the Touchwiz bloatware crap and for not releasing the Exynos sources/documentation.
Well, I don't have such problems, multitasking is working just fine here unless I open a 2 gb game or Google maps or Google Earth. My ram is between 530 and 640. I have some redraws on home screen sometimes, especially on the weather widget, I can't deny that. Also is true, no 2 gigs phone in Europe until now. I bought mine in May. I will get the S4 next year. Hope to see a better and faster phone.
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Well, I don't have such problems, multitasking is working just fine here unless I open a 2 gb game or Google maps or Google Earth. My ram is between 530 and 640. I have some redraws on home screen sometimes, especially on the weather widget, I can't deny that. Also is true, no 2 gigs phone in Europe until now. I bought mine in May. I will get the S4 next year. Hope to see a better and faster phone.
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demlasjr, close all apps and then try opening a page in the browser, leave with home key. start a game, leave again. then open whatsapp/messaging and leave again. finally, open any other app (FB or youtube or whatever) and leave one more time with home button.
Thats just 4 (four) apps! By now the phone has killed your game and your browser. Just bring up the recent apps menu and switch back to the browser. It will reload your entire page from scratch, not a big deal when on wifi but a real pain in the ass when on mobile data. Now try switching to you game, it will reload from the starting screen instead of from where you left.
This IS an issue. People in denial are either oblivious to it (the average user sure is) or they don't mind their apps relaoding from scratch. I could make a nice video to show it since alot of ppl pretend they don't have the problem, but I'm too lazy to prove the obvious and since our international GSG3's all run on 1gb and more or less the same firmware, this simply can not be the case. What is possible is people using only 2-3 apps all the time, thus they never experience the problem. But there are others who don't use their smartphones only for texting and FB.
As a reference, see this thread http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/629432-multitasking.html. Exactly what I'm talking about.
Only remedy so far is installing aokp, it alleviates the problem a bit because it allows more open apps. it's still not good.
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Vipeout said:
demlasjr, close all apps and then try opening a page in the browser, leave with home key. start a game, leave again. then open whatsapp/messaging and leave again. finally, open any other app (FB or youtube or whatever) and leave one more time with home button.
Thats just 4 (four) apps! By now the phone has killed your game and your browser. Just bring up the recent apps menu and switch back to the browser. It will reload your entire page from scratch, not a big deal when on wifi but a real pain in the ass when on mobile data. Now try switching to you game, it will reload from the starting screen instead of from where you left.
This IS an issue. People in denial are either oblivious to it (the average user sure is) or they don't mind their apps relaoding from scratch. I could make a nice video to show it since alot of ppl pretend they don't have the problem, but I'm too lazy to prove the obvious and since our international GSG3's all run on 1gb and more or less the same firmware, this simply can not be the case. What is possible is people using only 2-3 apps all the time, thus they never experience the problem. But there are others who don't use their smartphones only for texting and FB.
As a reference, see this thread http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/629432-multitasking.html. Exactly what I'm talking about.
Only remedy so far is installing aokp, it alleviates the problem a bit because it allows more open apps. it's still not good.
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I agree with you bro....I am struggling to find an alternate solution to this problem as I don't want to root my phone as I just bought it 15 days back.
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Read my post on page 1.
Its fixed.
Yesterdays update makes the fix all automatc.
http://goo.gl/IvGL1
zeppelinrox said:
Read my post on page 1.
Its fixed.
Yesterdays update makes the fix all automatc.
http://goo.gl/IvGL1
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To be honest, saying something is fixed, and then pointing people to a page that suggests a fix which is just as confusing and difficult to use as the supercharger script, which I could not get to work for love nor money, won't help the majority of people who want a nice and easy fix to something that requires a nice and easy fix.
I tried the supercharger script a number of times and could never get it to stick no matter what I tried so the multitasking patch surely will be just as difficult to get working for the layman as that.
What people really need is a CWM runnable file that fixes this issue.
I will personally use a custom ROM that manages to fix or at least alleviate the issues until Nexus 4 comes back into stock or the Optimus G comes out next year lol.
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demlasjr, close all apps and then try opening a page in the browser, leave with home key. start a game, leave again. then open whatsapp/messaging and leave again. finally, open any other app (FB or youtube or whatever) and leave one more time with home button.
Thats just 4 (four) apps! By now the phone has killed your game and your browser. Just bring up the recent apps menu and switch back to the browser. It will reload your entire page from scratch, not a big deal when on wifi but a real pain in the ass when on mobile data. Now try switching to you game, it will reload from the starting screen instead of from where you left.
This IS an issue. People in denial are either oblivious to it (the average user sure is) or they don't mind their apps relaoding from scratch. I could make a nice video to show it since alot of ppl pretend they don't have the problem, but I'm too lazy to prove the obvious and since our international GSG3's all run on 1gb and more or less the same firmware, this simply can not be the case. What is possible is people using only 2-3 apps all the time, thus they never experience the problem. But there are others who don't use their smartphones only for texting and FB.
As a reference, see this thread http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/629432-multitasking.html. Exactly what I'm talking about.
Only remedy so far is installing aokp, it alleviates the problem a bit because it allows more open apps. it's still not good.
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I tried mate. I tried with Tapatalk + whatapp + yahoo mail in Dolphin + cut the rope. Everything works fine and no redraws or refreshes. Only with Google Earth and Maps or very very big games. I can even make a video to shop you that I have no issues. Try this combination and let me know if you have redraws
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Hello,
After a year or so after buying a SGS III, I started experiencing slowdowns. Six months later I installed Android 4.3 as it was available with OTA. I run official ROM, nothing fancy. Now, I experience serious performance slowdowns during new screens loading, switching applications, any action in fact can be slow; when I listen to music (standard player) sometimes I get 10 cuts in a song.
I have like 60 apps installed. My average RAM load is 750 MB / 831 MB.
I have never reset to Factory defaults. I just tried deleting all my text msgs to improve loading, it dit not change anything.
I imagine the current services load is too heavy for a pretty old phone. Is this the reason for huge performance slowdowns (sometimes 5 secs delays)?
I also fear the development of the Samsung layer is pretty bad. When you take into account, the poor dev capabilities Samsung demonstrated with Kies, or with PC interface (I struggle uploading files to the device, it gets deconnected all the time). I think Samsung is good at electronics, but bad at software; this would be a personal "feeling". I aslo experienced huge performance drops with SGS1.
What do you think of the reasons for performance issues with SGSIII ?
You are on unmodified stock, that is the reason.
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You are on unmodified stock, that is the reason.
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No troll please, it s too easy
one more thing
There is one more think I wanted to add: I wonder if Samsung does not use "programmed obsolescence" (don't know if it is the correct term)...
No, I wasn't trolling. Unmodified stock has over sixty processes and services running all the time while most users only need four or five.
Over time and use the system will slow even further as firmware updates and third party apps interfere.
The phone hardware is well up to running 4.3, just not sixty things at once.
Your first step is to backup your personal data then factory reset and format the internal storage. This will improve things immediately but until you switch to a custom firmware, even one with a stock base, you will not solve the problem.
Even on stock firmware you can disable 80% of the junk Samsung installed.
Very honest opinion.. Just flash your phone with Cyanogen or another custom ROM.. This should be the best bet for you!
You should get KitKat 4.4.4 as of now.
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boomboomer said:
No, I wasn't trolling. Unmodified stock has over sixty processes and services running all the time while most users only need four or five.
Over time and use the system will slow even further as firmware updates and third party apps interfere.
The phone hardware is well up to running 4.3, just not sixty things at once.
Your first step is to backup your personal data then factory reset and format the internal storage. This will improve things immediately but until you switch to a custom firmware, even one with a stock base, you will not solve the problem.
Even on stock firmware you can disable 80% of the junk Samsung installed.
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Thanks for your explanations, they are helpful.
I experienced huge performance drops one year or so after installing Darky ROM on my SGS1; I had to switch back to stock ROM. That's why I'm not eager to try the "custom ROM experience" again; it takes too much time.
I still have two questions to you, you seem to know well this Android subject:
1. Does the factory reset changes the ROM installed, or just wipes the user data?
2. How do I disable some stock services? Is there a good app? (I could not find anything useful by forum search)
AOSP Custom rom is for the enthusiast only, as they all come with drawbacks like shorter battery life or hardware issues. Custom rom based on stock is suitable for daily use, as they are just debloated.
Factory reset only wipes user data.
App manager, click on the service or app then disable button. Caution that some are essential to things you might need, search and read here on xda for guides on what is pure bloat.
Bro! I'm using the same phone. Had loads of problems with Samsung's TouchWiz. Your phone is absolutely fine. Use Cyanogen CM11 it is way better. I have been using Cyanogen for almost 6-7 months and honestly I have had problems but XDA is always full of solutions.
Go to "get.cm" and use the automatic installer to install cyanogen into your phone without you having to do anything such as rooting and flashing.. Cyanogen Installer does it automatically for you. If you are not satisfied you can always manually install cm
" https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=AiF_VOnCFNO3uQSw1YEY&url=http://m.ibtimes.co.in/how-install-cyanogenmod-android-4-4-4-kitkat-cm11-m9-custom-rom-samsung-galaxy-s3-i9300-tutorial-606129&ved=0CBoQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHiKLLDngZKWM8lvfSa15QTXRRzdA&sig2=VZslZMxWssAwAyjfm0F8WQ"
Which is of course free of cost!! You just need 4 things
1. Samsung GS3 i9300
2. USB
3. A PC
4. INTERNET
Check out my Setup
https://plus.google.com/102584932386482931948/posts/VuXyAnPJMtM
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Thanks for the hints. I found this thread witch can be helpful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/themes-apps/applications-safe-to-remove-t1069924
I think I will use Titanium Back Up App to remove unused services. Crap, I'll have to root the phone! I ll wait till I get a new phone, I'm looking for a good LTE-A no QHD (just FullHD) candidate.
Returning to the thread point, does all brands have this kind of performance problems or are there some more stock optimized phones? I'm hesitating getting away from Samsung, even if the OLED screen are really great (excepted the color saturated ones like the Alpha's). I was told HTC was more optimizing its layer, but I don't know if it is really true...
ROOTING your phone will unlock endless possibilities!
Regarding HTC, their flagship devices are very good.. Always first with updates right after google launches for their nexus devices very good sound and faster than other same priced smart phones.
Even Nexus devices are really a great deal giving you stock android with great performance and .01% lag.
Samsung is a more feature based smart phone with over used RAM and disabling the system apps causes the system to crash every now and then. I too love Samsung devices but prefer to use the stock android or even a custom ROM instead of TouchWiz.
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AOSP Custom rom is for the enthusiast only, as they all come with drawbacks like shorter battery life or hardware issues. Custom rom based on stock is suitable for daily use, as they are just debloated.
Factory reset only wipes user data.
App manager, click on the service or app then disable button. Caution that some are essential to things you might need, search and read here on xda for guides on what is pure bloat.
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Eventually, I rooted my phone, as it has no more warranty anyway. I've unistalled some forced system apps, frozen some RAM resilient apps/services. Now I have an average of 200 MB free RAM and the screens loading in TouchWiz are fast as at the beginning
So, thanks to your help, I can answer my own question about performance loss: too many resilient services for a 1GB RAM phone; it's about time I get a new phone
I hesitated to root the phone because I will give it to my girlfriend and she is the type of user clicking on every OK button when she gets a dialog. How she said she will not take the phone because I tinkered with it! Ah women ...