Hi I am buying a new phone, and I have 2 phones in mind: g2x or atrix.
I am on tmobile but i can unlock atrix to work with tmobile.
Now which one would you recommend?
G2x:
Better camera
Snappier
Better screen(IPS is brighter and more vibrant)
Atrix:
more ram
Bigger storage
higher resolution screen
Please help. I know this is in the atrix forum, but please give unbiased suggestions.
tomniu said:
Hi I am buying a new phone, and I have 2 phones in mind: g2x or atrix.
I am on tmobile but i can unlock atrix to work with tmobile.
Now which one would you recommend?
G2x:
Better camera
Snappier
Better screen(IPS is brighter and more vibrant)
Atrix:
more ram
Bigger storage
higher resolution screen
Please help. I know this is in the atrix forum, but please give unbiased suggestions.
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I don't know a lot about the g2x, but my choice would be the atrix due to the more ram. More ram makes your phone more future proof. I also like the higher resolution of the atrix and CM7 is progressing nicely for the atrix so you will have a way to get rid of the motoblur crap.
I don't know how much hands on you've had with the G2X, but it is only snappier in it's fresh out of the box state. My coworker bought one and once you start installing apps and setting up widgets, it started to feel choppier. The ram does make a difference. Don't let the reviews and benchmarks fool ya. The Atrix is faster than the G2X in real world situations. But the G2X is faster fresh out of the box due to it having a vanilla version of Android installed.
Lots of the people here have chosen the Atrix over the G2X, so it's going to be tough to find much support for LG here. That said, the reason I chose the Atrix over the G2X is because of the accessories that come with the Atrix. The lapdock really interested me, and I finally got one last week. For what I need, it's been an awesome addition. The bigger battery in the Atrix will also go a long way (in my opinion). I wish the camera was a little better in the Atrix, but that's what I have a point and shoot for. All in all, and this is just my opinion, there are very few areas where the LG has a distinct advantage over the Atrix.
Also, with the recent Google purchase of Motorola Mobility, it does increase our chance of getting Ice Cream Sandwich at some point.
Even though Google said it will keep Motorola Mobility as a separate company, it does increase the chances of pushing future updates sooner for us.
The atrix will get ice cream sandwich.
Officially.
Guaranteed.
If I were on T-Mobile I would get the phone that works on their 3G/4G. And that is the G2X.
If that doesn't matter to you then the Atrix is the better phone overall.
Atrix with CM7 feels as snappy as my computer, but i dont buy a phone and expect it to run crysis. for everyday use, atrix with cm7 is very snappy while stable.
my 2 cents
One feature from the G2x that I wish that Motorola would eventually enable on the Atrix would be HDMI mirroring. By default, you only can only access Motorola's media player when you use the hdmi-out (or the webtop mode if you use a lapdock/HD multimedia dock, or mod). Currently, the only way to get HDMI mirroring on the Atrix is if you unlock the bootloader, root, and flash the hdmi mirroring mod (but landscape mode isn't supported yet).
But whether you're hoping to use video calls on the Atrix or G2x, you'll have to resort to Google Talk's video chat (or other non-Skype alternative) because Skype hasn't decided to support phones with a Tegra 2 chipset. Google Talk's video chat can be enabled on the Atrix over 3G through existing mods/custom ROMs.
If you're planning to use your phone for business/power point presentations, the G2x is probably the better choice. If you never use those features, the Atrix is a pretty solid phone (and has a fingerprint reader!). If you can freely choose carriers, I would say go with the Droid Bionic or Photon. They're like the Atrix except less crippled by Motorola.
Magnetox said:
The atrix will get ice cream sandwich.
Officially.
Guaranteed.
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Proofs??????????????
tomniu said:
Hi I am buying a new phone, and I have 2 phones in mind: g2x or atrix.
I am on tmobile but i can unlock atrix to work with tmobile.
Now which one would you recommend?
G2x:
Better camera
Snappier
Better screen(IPS is brighter and more vibrant)
Atrix:
more ram
Bigger storage
higher resolution screen
Please help. I know this is in the atrix forum, but please give unbiased suggestions.
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I love my Atrix and it's amazing, but you could save your money and wait for the Nexus Prime. I'll probably be waiting for it also.
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I read on the G2X forum that a LOT of people had screen bleeding problems.
One question that's being baffling for a while now: why does the g2x get 50fps or even 117fps in the quadrant standard graphics test, while any other phone(including atrix) only gets 60fps max?
tomniu said:
One question that's being baffling for a while now: why does the g2x get 50fps or even 117fps in the quadrant standard graphics test, while any other phone(including atrix) only gets 60fps max?
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I pulled these comments from users in the SGS2 forum, maybe they apply to the Atrix too?
Hollow.Droid said:
The display registers at 60MHz meaning any fps above this will not look smoother or in any way better. In fact you'd simply be pushing the device harder using more battery for zero improvements. Apart from certain benchmarks of course, which is a ridiculous reason to mod a device anyway.
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developing said:
The screen of the Galaxy S II has a refresh rate of 60 Hertz, meaning the screen physically cannot display any material higher than 60 frames per second. If you uncap the software frame rate, then the CPU and GPU of the phone will work harder to render as much material as possible - let's say in this case, we have something that has 80 frames to display in a single second. Yet since the screen cannot display 80 frames per second, 20 of those frames will never be shown, and the resulting movement could even suffer from tearing because of the mismatched refresh rate and frame rate. In order to fix tearing, a technique called vertical sync is employed, which would cut frame rates to 60fps in order to eliminate the extra frames which cause tearing.
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I was facing the same choice before I got the Atrix.
The biggest factor that turned me towards the Atrix is: G2X has a VERY high return rate due to screen bleeding issues and other HARDWARE bugs. Last time I read articles were speculating that G2X will get pulled due to hardware issues, but I don't know how that ended.
I would think that you can find more development work for Atrix than G2x.
As such, you can find more customised rom for atrix than g2x.
tian105 said:
Atrix with CM7 feels as snappy as my computer, but i dont buy a phone and expect it to run crysis. for everyday use, atrix with cm7 is very snappy while stable.
my 2 cents
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Give it more time, it's only gonna get better...
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I chose the Atrix over the G2X, GS2 and HTC Sensation. Why? Because the G2X has less RAM,the GS2 reminded me of the HD2 ...and the Sensation also had less ram and Sense ui . I also love the Fingerprint scanner on the Atrix and that the phone is still compact enough to fit in my jeans.
Motorola Atrix 4G
How many more Atrix vs <whatever> - Which one should I get? threads do we really have to see here? If you have to ask.... you dont need it. A simple google search is more than enough to provide all the information one would need to make an informed decision (god forbid you might have to actually read)
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How many more Atrix vs <whatever> - Which one should I get? threads do we really have to see here? If you have to ask.... you dont need it. A simple google search is more than enough to provide all the information one would need to make an informed decision (god forbid you might have to actually read)
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+1 Actually you are right.
It's quiet easy to find even video comparisons of Phone X vs Phone Y on professional Android blogs. These reviews will give you all the insight you need.
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Honest question here. I'm having a hard time finding the atrix for less than 600$ considering that i live in Venezuela. Today i have just learned that the Nexus S is coming to at&t (don't know when)
I have seen people on this forum that has the Nexus S and bought the atrix.
Can you try to make an objective review of both devices?
So far, what i know:
-Same size
-Much better screen on the nexus, although with a smaller resolution
-Dual core on the atrix, single core on the nexus, but different processors (samsung makes their own chip)
-Gingerbread on the nexus, froyo on the atrix, although it WILL get the update, but we don't know when.
-Stock home screen on the nexus, blur on the atrix.
-Unlockable bootloader on the nexus, signed on the atrix
-SIM-unlocked on the nexus, at&t locked on the atrix
-Better build quality on the atrix
-Laptop dock, media dock on the atrix (i don't care about them)
-LED light on the atrix, which i like since i am using a blackberry
-Smaller RAM on the nexus, although none wasted for the laptop dock
-Gyroscope on the nexus
-NFC on the nexus
-Bigger battery on the atrix (that doesn't mean it is better than the nexus)
-Slightly better camera on the nexus (no blue/purple tint) for still photos, but not even 720p that is on the atrix
For those that have both, what has been your experience?
you more than likely won't get honest answers here. The nexus S fanboys will come crap on the atrix, teh atrix fans will tell them to F-off and leave, and none will help you.
decide what is important to you in a phone, then see which device fits that list better.
As a long term investment I would pick the Atrix because I'm sure that we will see custom ROMs and the fact that it is dual core probably means it will take more time to get outdated.
Also, while may not be important to everyone in every case, the Nexus S lacks an SD card slot so you're stuck with the 16gb of internal memory.
In my case, that in itself is a deal breaker...
- Much better screen on the nexus, although with a smaller resolution
* This honestly comes down to preference. I love the Atrix screen, it's like night and day coming from a Nexus One. I think the Nexus S' colors are way off for me and I'll be damned if I find a difference between the Atrix and iPhone 4 when looking at them straight and for 99% of common use.
- Gingerbread on the nexus, froyo on the atrix, although it WILL get the update, but we don't know when.
* I don't see the benefits of Gingerbread until version 2.4 (dual core support), so right now, they're equal IMO.
- Stock home screen on the nexus, blur on the atrix.
* Blur isn't that bad, I actually like it. It's no where near as intrusive as HTC Sense or as lame as Samsung TouchWiz. Try it, you'll like it.
- SIM-unlocked on the nexus, at&t locked on the atrix
* I bet it won't be long before unlock codes are available online
- Better build quality on the atrix
* No arguing that.
- Laptop dock, media dock on the atrix (i don't care about them)
* Meh, they're a gimmick IMO
- LED light on the atrix, which i like since i am using a blackberry
* Once you get used to it, there is no going back.
- Gyroscope on the nexus
* Android isn't known for gaming, so I fail to see the need for one
- NFC on the nexus
* Until 2015 (sarcasm) where it's adopted by everyone, it's a gimmick
- Bigger battery on the atrix (that doesn't mean it is better than the nexus)
* No, it's better.
- Slightly better camera on the nexus (no blue/purple tint) for still photos, but not even 720p that is on the atrix
* Excuse us, that would 1080p on the Atrix, soon at least
spielnicht said:
- Gingerbread on the nexus, froyo on the atrix, although it WILL get the update, but we don't know when.
* I don't see the benefits of Gingerbread until version 2.4 (dual core support), so right now, they're equal IMO.
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for the last time, the froyo build on the atrix supports multi-core. It's all the apps that need to be re-written to make use of it. Even the ones that don't are still seeing a 1Ghz processor, which is on par with the rest of the smart phone world.
Dude your starting a flame war there both top end devices you can't go wrong with any pick Done.
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Sounds to me like you've already got your mind made up, go ahead and get that Nexus.
Thanks for correcting me, somehow I missed that bit of information.
So there you have it, aside from the improved power management and maybe SIP, we don't get that much "new" stuff over Froyo. Granted, I wish we did have that fancy copy-n-paste. Why am I reminded of Apple all of a sudden?
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for the last time, the froyo build on the atrix supports multi-core. It's all the apps that need to be re-written to make use of it. Even the ones that don't are still seeing a 1Ghz processor, which is on par with the rest of the smart phone world.
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Whatever you pick will be top end if you like to hack and want updates and the best viewing screen or want to do hard core games in the near future witch android is on the rise each day with games from ios then you want nexus s and its gyroscope.But if you don't care to flash and hack but wanna try out the first DC phone and all it brings in its young stage along with a laptop terminal go Atrix or you can just buy the new redfly witch is the same thing and works on any Android device like the atrix Doc but again you can't go wrong
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Unless you're not really a big fan of racing games or those marble labyrinth-type games.... at which point the idea of the gyroscope is even more pointless.
elementaldragon said:
Unless you're not really a big fan of racing games or those marble labyrinth-type games.... at which point the idea of the gyroscope is even more pointless.
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I don't know what the obsession people have the gyroscope is - no other phones have it at this point except the iPhone 4. The Atrix has a motion sensor which is a MEMS chip similar to whats in PS3 controllers, PS3 Move controllers, the Wii, etc. The phone is plenty able to support motion gaming just as all previous Android phones have been assuming they've been powerful enough in the processor / RAM department to do so.
I'm actually very interested in the Nexus S vs Atrix 4G debate.
Here's why I am reluctant to get the Atrix 4G, please try to refute these points:
1) Froyo/Blur: It won't get Ice Cream before Christmas. Ditto for Gtalk video chat which is quite important for me.
2) The locked/signed/encrypted Bootloader issue: The Atrix might never get custom ROMs. If it ever does, it will take forever for hackers to make Ice Cream dual-core optimized, then Tegra 2 optimized....etc.
3) PenTile LCD: Sure the NS is PenTile too, but Super AMOLED makes up for that with insane contrasts.
4) Camera: Produced images seemed a bit underwhelming.
Here's why I want the Atrix 4G:
1) Tegra 2 (although there seems to be little real life benefits to it); won't be outdated soon.
2) 720/1080p recording
3) Excellent build quality, with gimmicks like the fingerprint reader
4) I actually like Motoblur widgets
And here's why I am reluctant to get the Nexus S:
1) No 720p video recording(!)
2) Plastic, cheap case (especially the back)
3) No HSPA+ support
4) Old-gen SoC (although in real life peforms close to a Tegra 2 with Froyo)
And finally, here's why I want the Nexus S:
1) Super AMOLED colors and contrasts look breathtaking
2) Will get Ice Cream, (along with Gtalk video) the moment it's released in May/June -no need to wait months for hackers to optimize it (provided that the bootloader issue is solved)
3) Costs $100-$150 less
So since money is a big deal for me, I'm thinking I'll get Nexus S for the year, and by Christmas 2011, I can get the new Dual-core Nexus (with the new Android) or get a Terga 3 phone, or maybe even a Glasses-free 3D phone....
What do you guys think?
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...with gimmicks like the fingerprint reader
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Trust me when I tell you this is no gimmick, but an extremely useful and valid feature. If you connect to a Corporate Exchange account that requires a PIN, you have no idea how annoying it is to have to type that 6 digit code every time you switch the phone on (thanks 2.2.1 update, sigh). With the biometric sensor...it doesn't require it from you (optional if you want it). If I were to ignore all the great benefits of owning the Atrix and just focus on the sensor...it's enough to justify getting the phone.
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Trust me when I tell you this is no gimmick, but an extremely useful and valid feature. If you connect to a Corporate Exchange account that requires a PIN, you have no idea how annoying it is to have to type that 6 digit code every time you switch the phone on (thanks 2.2.1 update, sigh). With the biometric sensor...it doesn't require it from you (optional if you want it). If I were to ignore all the great benefits of owning the Atrix and just focus on the sensor...it's enough to justify getting the phone.
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I believe you. But what about all the other points (most importantly, Ice Cream)? I've also been reading about all the horribly disappointing Atrix 4G experiences people are having (slugginess, fingerprint reader slow....etc) -check this thread for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965615
TareX said:
I believe you. But what about all the other points (most importantly, Ice Cream)? I've also been reading about all the horribly disappointing Atrix 4G experiences people are having (slugginess, fingerprint reader slow....etc) -check this thread for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965615
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GPS is another reason you don't have listed. GPS on the NS is just as bad as the Captivate/I9k. On the Atrix I got a lock inside a concrete and steel building, which seemed like a miracle to me after my Captivate experience.
People that are happy with their phone don't take the time to post about how great it is.
I'm loving mine so far. I'm not sure that the people who are saying that things are sluggish or slow aren't just making things up to try and make people as miserable as they are.
As for custom roms.... most of the time people clamor to them because the base experience is bad. (e.g. captivate) I haven't seen a need for it yet, especially since we had tethering available out of the box already.
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I believe you. But what about all the other points (most importantly, Ice Cream)? I've also been reading about all the horribly disappointing Atrix 4G experiences people are having (slugginess, fingerprint reader slow....etc) -check this thread for example:
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You also got to realized that this is a forum. People ask questions/complain when something doesnt work. That is why you are seeing all these hate threads to the atrix. Also, the trend these days is to complain when some thing isnt spoon fed to you. I personally love my new atrix and i havent had a single thing become an issue for me.
I personally love the display on the atrix over the nexus s. Reason is because I would rather look at natural colors instead of seeing super saturatured colors. All my other displays use natural colors (computers, tv's).
I also love the finger print reader on this phone. It has worked every time I have used it but then again im not trying to make the thing read a finger swipe thats only .0001 seconds long...
We are all on the same team here, Andriod is much better then Ios and phones will continue to keep being pushed out every 2 months. I would sit the two phones next to each other and pick one that works best for you because two months from now that phone wont be the best anymore.
1) You will more than likely get Ice Cream before Xmas on the Atrix. Rumored to be released this summer so that should give Moto plenty of time to integrate it. With Nexus you are pretty much guaranteed to get the update once available.
2) Moto has stated they are working to allow devs to unlock the bootloader eventually. This is like point 1), the uncertainty of trusting Motorola but I think it will happen, just a matter of when.
3) Personal preference. I prefer the Atrix screen over Nexus S for the most part simply because I need to see my screen outdoors.
4) They are. Not much different than any other Android device out there. However, I installed Camera360 for my phone app which has helped get some great shots.
It might help to really prioritize your needs and see which one stacks up like others have said. For me it was Performance, Battery, Size/Weight, Display, Future relevance, Connectivity, Expandability. Atrix wins on all counts in that respect.
Here's why I am reluctant to get the Atrix 4G, please try to refute these points:
1) Froyo/Blur: It won't get Ice Cream before Christmas. Ditto for Gtalk video chat which is quite important for me.
2) The locked/signed/encrypted Bootloader issue: The Atrix might never get custom ROMs. If it ever does, it will take forever for hackers to make Ice Cream dual-core optimized, then Tegra 2 optimized....etc.
3) PenTile LCD: Sure the NS is PenTile too, but Super AMOLED makes up for that with insane contrasts.
4) Camera: Produced images seemed a bit underwhelming.
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GPS is another reason you don't have listed. GPS on the NS is just as bad as the Captivate/I9k. On the Atrix I got a lock inside a concrete and steel building, which seemed like a miracle to me after my Captivate experience.
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If that were true I wouldn't have considered a Nexus S in the first place; but it seems that the Nexus S doesn't suffer from the Galaxy S series GPS woes....
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If that were true I wouldn't have considered a Nexus S in the first place; but it seems that the Nexus S doesn't suffer from the Galaxy S series GPS woes....
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/caseinpoint
Exact opposite of what I have heard. People also claim that the GPS of the captivate works "as well as their Garmin", which, while also making the same point, I don't believe because there were about 70 threads in the captivate/i9k developer forums about trying to make it better.
so my contract will be up in May 4th.
after my horrid experience with the Backflip, im kind of on the iffy side about the atrix since its running motoblur.
the atrix seems like a good candidate. espcialy because of the lapdock. as im going to college and wanted a android tablet. but the atrix seems way better ATM and i can get it for around 450 at radio shack.
but first of all. i would want some general feed back from owners as you all.
pros and cons basically.
Atrix is a great phone to upgrade too. I myself came from a Backflip (CM6 installed). BLUR shouldn't be an issue since the phone is so powerful...but use LP or ADW etc as your launcher
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Atrix is a great phone to upgrade too. I myself came from a Backflip (CM6 installed). BLUR shouldn't be an issue since the phone is so powerful...but use LP or ADW etc as your launcher
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backflip, was a good attempt at a design of a phone unique, but with that they equipped it just sucked. i moved on to a HTC HD2 which is what i have right now. but i want my 3G back and 4G as my area will be available for 4G.
thanks for the tip on the launchers.
This phone is very well built especially in an otterbox case. It just feels like a sturdy phone. The camera is really good. I just upgraded from an Xperia X10 with loads of tweaks. I thought that was running really fast, and this manages to run even faster at stock. You can literally click almost anything and it will open immediately. Cons: I really like motoblur actually, but I wish there were more settings for syncing.
i keep on viewing more videos on youtube regarding the phone. called att today in the morning. i want it. but they are slapping a 45 tethering fee to my plan, becuase of the lapdock. i dont want to go over 200 bucks a month as its what we are paying right now right around 170ish 80ish.
but i want it.
but hen again, it makes me think about the whole motoblur thing. on the backflip, it was laggy and useless. i ended up putting a deblured rom on it.
by any chance does anybody know if you need to have a tethering plan?
You can get past the need for the tethering plan, I don't know personally because in Canada there are no tethering charges (except for the iPhone) but there are threads on bypassing it in the Dev forum. As for your original question, take a good look at the screen in a store or somewhere before you buy it. For a screen that is 960x540 the PenTile effect completely ruins it for me, and the color saturation is terrible. If it doesn't bother you than that its a great phone.
ill look that up. as for the screen. PenTile? imma hit google up. lol. but ill take a good look and compare to my HD2. screen doesnt really bug me. unless its low quality. then yes we have an issue. but other than that. were fine. thanks for the tip.
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You can get past the need for the tethering plan, I don't know personally because in Canada there are no tethering charges (except for the iPhone) but there are threads on bypassing it in the Dev forum. As for your original question, take a good look at the screen in a store or somewhere before you buy it. For a screen that is 960x540 the PenTile effect completely ruins it for me, and the color saturation is terrible. If it doesn't bother you than that its a great phone.
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I completely disagree. The screen looks very good, albet a little pixilated when displaying solid colors. My friend's droid x's screen looks washed out and low quality in comparison.
Pros
Most powerful phone. It is more powerful than most android phones coming out even the SGS2 can't touch it. Look at some benchmarking threads the Atrix gets in the 2900 with android 2.2 the SGS2 has 3000 but it is android 2.3 and does not push out as many pixels.
Great Battery life
1080p will be coming soon
4G coming soon
Very good build and very slim as well
Cons
Locked bootloader (Not a problem unless you like custom roms)
A bit laggy with a couple bugs (Could be fixed soon)
- AT&T
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Pros
Most powerful phone. It is more powerful than most android phones coming out even the SGS2 can't touch it. Look at some benchmarking threads the Atrix gets in the 2900 with android 2.2 the SGS2 has 3000 but it is android 2.3 and does not push out as many pixels.
Great Battery life
1080p will be coming soon
4G coming soon
Very good build and very slim as well
Cons
Locked bootloader (Not a problem unless you like custom roms)
A bit laggy with a couple bugs (Could be fixed soon)
- AT&T
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like i said screen isnt really a big issue. as long it looks okay and a bit on the HD side im good.
ive been reading review alot lately (dont wanna **** up liek i did with the backflip) i hear battery is a drag. that it dies quickly because of the dual core processor. the 4G has to come eventually as its has 4G slapped on to its name
AT&T is not really a big issue. ha i got service where i live. not one single dropped call.
now here are two noobish questions.
1) what exactly is a locked bootloader? and is it good or bad?
2) can someone explain the whole dual core thing? i have heard and read two different things. i read that it is a 1 GHz processor thats it. i have heard from video reviews that its a processor with 2 1Ghz chips, that making it 2 Ghz. jsut wondering.
How are you getting it for 450 from radio shack? If you don't mind me asking.
I returned mine for the zoom and will prolly grab it again for that price.
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i visted my local radio shack about 3 days ago.
Phone 150
lapdock 329.99
so correction about 479.99
Atrix & lapdock deal @ radioshack
Oh with an upgrade? Damn that's a pretty good prove. I paid for it in full, 650 is crazy for a phone...
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Oh with an upgrade? Damn that's a pretty good prove. I paid for it in full, 650 is crazy for a phone...
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yeah. 600 for the phone is whack! i got a HD2 currently got it off cragislist for 150 guy needed the money.
best buy has the phone for 99.99 and the dock for 399.99. a total of about 500+
radio shack seems the best option. around 480 not bad 20 bucks is 20 bucks i can buy a case or something.
You guys are lucky you don't live in Australia, to buy any decent phone will set you back 800ish, Atrix 4G online in an Australian store (MobiCity.com.au) will set you back $1000 its stupid.
As for the question, I like my Atrix, its heaps better than my HTC 7 Trophy and faster than my iPhone 4 in some cases. The locked bootloader basically stops you flashing custom ROMs onto the phone entirely, only fake ROMs that are essentially very well built themes. Considering this is my first android though, I have yet to care about custom ROMs. The screen is good unless you're viewing solid colors which is when it goes pixelated and motoblur did annoy me as soon as I saw it, which is the reason I shoved GingerBlur on it as soon as I could.
- DarkRyoushii
sal2708 said:
now here are two noobish questions.
1) what exactly is a locked bootloader? and is it good or bad?
2) can someone explain the whole dual core thing? i have heard and read two different things. i read that it is a 1 GHz processor thats it. i have heard from video reviews that its a processor with 2 1Ghz chips, that making it 2 Ghz. jsut wondering.
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1) In simplified terms, a Bootloader is low-level piece of software that loads the main OS (Android in this case). It's roughly equivalent of the PC BIOS.
Being locked means that its going to be very difficult to replace it.
You'd want to replace it in order to replace the Android OS with a newer version. The Manufactures and carriers are terribly slow to release new versions. The version of android on the atrix is version out of date (2.2) and almost a year old. It also means you can easily remove the extra 'value' crap motorola and the carriers like to add (like motoblur).
2) The chip runs at 1Ghz, but it's two cores on the chip which means it can 'theoretically' do twice as much per hertz. In practise, Android isn't that dual-core aware. It's likely Ice-Cream will bring more optimizations for dual-cores. Which we think is due late this year.
But Motorola would rather sell you a new phone than update it, hence why a locked bootloader is a pain. Consumers provide far better support than the manufactures or carriers
I see. I wonder if they will skip 2.3 and just go ahead to ice cream since ice cream is for dual core phones.
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i was willing to buy the Atrix 4g for its dualcore beast and right now we hav 3 of that kind. Can anybody suggest the best one out of the Three???
SGS 2. 'nuff said.
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for $800 it better wipe your a$$.
-i have heard disappointing reviews on the camera, wifi, touchwiz, build quality, samsung updates(though motorola is bad with bell users).
-i wouldnt buy an LG as they have no solid track record and too many complaints to list
-atrix has its fair share of problems primarily the bootloader and camera isnt the greatest.
Anyone else kinda disappointed by this new generation of dual cores as a whole?
Nope i love my sg2 much more than my atrix!
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if i could atleast have it in my hand and it was $150 or more less I would definitely consider it.
Having both devices, what are the benefits of sgs2? Be as unbiased as possible please.
where did u buy the S2?
People harp on about the SG2 being all plasticy, but compared to the atrix it feels much more solid. the case shell on the atrix creaks whenever i hold it, whether that be age 'wear and tear' or what not.
i find the camera to be much better than the atrix
the screen is much better on the SG2 but thats personal choice
i do miss quirky features such as the fingerprint reader and webtop but thats about it. Everything else the SG2 does the same if not better. Even in stock form, no mods comparing the two it becomes much greater. as gingerblur fixed alot of problems (motoblur!)
saying that, the Atrix is still the 2nd best device i had!
my 2 cents
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where did u buy the S2?
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handtec, got it sent from UK to AUS in 4 days!
Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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So guys....I just want a nice cellphone. I don't care for root and stuff. So, I guess the atrix will be fine for me right?
Do the G2x and S2 have been unlocked yet?
ty vm and sry about my english, Im trying to improve
If you want the best everyday phone I would buy the atrix battery last a day or more!
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LOL @ the guy who said the phone creaks in his hand. that is such utter LIES.
In any case, Samsung has a pretty horrible track record with the i9000 quality. Just look up i9000m internal SD on google and have fun sorting through that mess.. A phone that just auto nukes its internal SD whenever it wants.
As for the Atrix it has IMO an amazing screen (which you can use at full brightness) at little penatly on the giant battery.
If you wanna save battery and use juice defender the max I have gotten out of it before dying is 56 hours.... on a single charge.
So yeah.
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
Things aren't perfect with the SG2 there's the:
1. Heat dissipation issues were people are already returning their phones just for that alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068663
2. WiFi Issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067473
3. (Much More Than Normal) "Dead Pixel" Screens
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065935
4. Lack of Notification LED - (most knew about this already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058596
I'm not going to say which phone is better since they All 3 phones have their issues, but it's also interesting to watch people dropping $750-$1000 already thinking the SG2 will be the perfect device. (yes there's no perfect device blah blah blah...)
Anywhoo... For the record, I'm not totally trilled with the Atrix at this moment either. I've also thought about switching to the SG2 already myself, but IMO it's too high of a price tag to give it a chance right now.
The bottom line, there really isn't really a clear cut winner...
hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it and am running gingerblur, im very happy with the phone, however the case really is squeaking (back when i was in the US i had another atrix4g which i went to replace cuz the fingerprint scanner locked up occasionally, that one had perfect build quality, this one just squeaks at the top, and she cover shell is somehow too big for it...) and the locked bootloader is really annoying me, the screen is very good in my opinion. If i would be buying one of the phones now i would go with the LG i think (my main reasons: tegra2, unlocked bootloader, proper support), as to the sgs2 its too big in my opinion (seriously hwo needs a 4.3" phone, even the 4" are too big kind of - id prefer a 3.8"/3.7" like the original htc desire, but noone makes high end phones with that screen size..). Cant say much more about the sgs2, as that it doesnt have tegra2 which i prefer over other dualcore ARM based chips right now. Atrix has way better hardware specs than the LG tho: more ram, more flash, better battery, webtop, fingerprint scanner - love that one lol, the only worser spec is the camera on the atrix. so go figure For stock use the Atrix would be the best ithink
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hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it
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How did you manage to fix the wifi issues?
used other drivers for the wifi, the stock ones from motorola are missing my country ROFL, retards at moto. im trying to get a UK /system dump or at least the wifi drivers to test them out.
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Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
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e-penis is big enough.
why not htc hd2 .......its the better device
just kiding xD...but I have one now , just sold my atrix, I will try lg and SGS2
IF you want test...why you don't bought 2 and return to the store the phone you don't like it
I see many opnions.....and many FANS off samsung, lg and motorola
soo, if you want the opinion...ask in xda general not in motorola session....
thats probably a very good idea. I love my atrix so im going to lean towards this phone.
General might be less bias.
im thinking about buying this phone, i dont want to spend alot of money on smartphone and the atrix is pretty cheap for what he gives.
the motorola atrix worth buying?
he have any common problems?
thanks
Mine was pretty cheap, I got it for my birthday in october. I love it. The only common problem would be random reboots/sleep of deaths. There have been some "fixes" that work for people if you look around, but there are a fair amount of users who have had random reboot issues or sleep of death issues, including me. But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
atrix 4g
For a cheap phone it is really good. My only complaint is the 5mp camera. To get its full potential you have to unlock the bootloader, root and install a custom rom. All the info can be found in the development section of this forum. Turls team cm7 is rock steady. I have just updated to jokersax11's cm9 and now the phone is awesome, the only thing missing is the camera does not work in this rom.
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Were having alpha ver. of IceCream Sandwich (CM9) ... there are better phones around atm but if you think Atrix fits you then I would say its not a bad choice.
You can still buy it because it is very nice.
I bought my atrix 2 weeks ago in germany and i can't complain. Ok actually the atrix wasn't my first choice but the price of the nexus s become very high in germany so i decided to get the atrix.
And it is still a very fast phone with a nice battery and the most important fact for me is that it only has a 4" display because I have small hands and a bigger display would be to big for me.
I am happy and i saved more than 100€ compared to other high end phones like the galaxy s II or galaxy nexus.
I vote to Buy.
If you plan on modding I'm sure your are.. Your here after all. I would buy one for 250 or less. I really like mine. There are so many roms to try now. It seems even though some phones are better this phone is really well supported by a big community. Breathing more life into a phone and taking it beyound its time. Im using the SuperOSr Rom and I really enjoy it tried maybe 6 or so others.
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Forgot to say the atrix has been a really reliable phone considering the amount if soft bricked it doing software flashes unsafely. I didn't know any better at the time. Not buggy like all my blackberries Ive had.
I think it is worth buying this phone, it's a lot cheaper then say a galaxy s2 and the galaxy is just a tad more powerfull, also there are some great custom roms and even a few (I think 3) ICS roms on the way!
Dont buy the atrix, buy a sensation a sgs2 or a o2x.
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Lol o2x is almost the same but less ram no webtop no finger print scanner and costs more.
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I am thinking about buying an Atrix and would like some input too.
Requirements are:
1. 4" Screen
2. Good battery life
3. ATT 3G Bands
4. Less that $400 on unlocked market
The phones I considered were the SE Arc, LG Optimus 2X, and Atrix 4G. Yes, I would love to own a Galaxy or Nexus phone but it is outside my price range. The Optimus 2X fell out because I cannot get it in ATT USA bands. So its the Arc vs the Atrix. Or did I miss another option?
yes - no problems
yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
bluntyeyedfool said:
yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
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How about the Atrix vs Nexus S?
Nexus S pluses: AMOLED, Better Camera, Better Battery life, NFC, Offical upgrade to ICS
Atrix pluses: Expandable Memory, HDMI, Faster CPU, FP Reader, 3.5G
Tough call.
You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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I can't blame you either. I have always been a Motorola fan from the ROKR (not RAZR) line (anyone remember the Apple collaboration with Moto?) and I owned an E2. But I think it is poor on Motorola's part that the Defy is stuck on Froyo, while the pratically identical Defy+ got Gingerbread on launch. Motorola seems to be keeping certain brands going (Milestone/Droid, Defy, Atrix) so the should keep them updated as far as they can physically go.
Battery and ICS might sway me into getting the Nexus S but I do love the more powerful Atrix.
It's a great phone but the camera really kills it, other than that it's awesome.
I personally love my Atrix. The camera is a slight bit disappointing but it definitely makes it up with versatility and functionality. Just my opinion
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i choosed phone for about 1 year. because haven't more money, but i want a "power" phone, which can work for about 4 years without problem with hardware. i bought Atrix 4g. this is my first android phone, but it really nice for this price.
In the end of 2011 year i choose between atrix 4g, Defy+ and nexus prime. but nexus prime have bigger display, it is thinner than atrix, but have big price.
Defy+ is wonderfull, water resist, dust resist and any more... but haven't dual core, and only 512 ram.
resume (for me):
if i have more money i bought nexus prime, but i think that ideal phone can not cost more than $ 400 must have the hardware with a view of the future (1 year minimum). Should work just fine navigating large maps (map RUSSIA really great, and requires a lot of memory the laying of complex routes). Should be easily unlockable and be able to flash the android ICS (СM9 in my case). gave me a chance to practice in programming for Android.
Atrix gives me all these opportunities. Overclocking the CPU to 1.5GHz making foundation for the future, the performance he ahead of SGS2 and is not as great. Support for memory cards - I have no problems with the backup, you can always place another increase.
so that at the moment, I suggest taking Atrix 4g. But the choice is always yours.
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[...] But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
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Wow! How can you fix your SoD problem in Atrix?
I tested a lot of radios, kernels and roms without sucess. Can you tell me?
Thanks
Other than having a slight less capable camera, I love the Atrix!
Something to also note (that I love) is that it has a qHD resolution 4" display, which means it's pixel density is much higher than most of the other Android phones.
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never heard of SOD on atrix how are you getting one ... what are you using ?
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Do a little xda or google search to find a lot of SoD desperated users.
It's impossible to know what app (or kernel or rom etc) is the root cause, because many ones has many different configuration, use many differents apps etc.
My problem is more related to Data Connection, even 3G or Wifi. Every time I turn off a data connection my device get's SoD.
At now I'm testing LoadMonitor app as a SoD avoid app, and it make me happy. Let's do another test before advice them to other ones.
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Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
satkan said:
Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
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Only if you want a terrific and fast phone that can handle just about anything you throw at it!
FYI, I use mine all day long, in the car dock for navigation and MP3 playing while driving, as an actual phone in my hand/pocket, and in the laptop dock when I need it and I have never run out of juice or had it overheat. I think those reports are VERY anecdotal or are from people abusing their phones.
Go ahead and get one, you will not be sorry.
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Only if you want a terrific and fast phone that can handle just about anything you throw at it!
FYI, I use mine all day long, in the car dock for navigation and MP3 playing while driving, as an actual phone in my hand/pocket, and in the laptop dock when I need it and I have never run out of juice or had it overheat. I think those reports are VERY anecdotal or are from people abusing their phones.
Go ahead and get one, you will not be sorry.
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I must agree, it is a great piece of hardware, and software is up to you to choose. Great experience, great power. However one minor note here - you'd need to play with it, configure it and spend time with it - it is no iphone in my opinion, you'll need to MAKE it yours as you go. But it will pay off greatly. Honestly price-quality - on of the best on the market.
satkan said:
Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
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Looking at the specs of the phone the LG doesn't match up to the Atrix with ram (512 compared to 1gb) and also internal memory is only 4GB on the LG compared to 16 GB .
The atrix has a bigger capaity battery but not by much.
The screen is larger on the LG (4.3) but I am not sure how the pixels ect compare (480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density) compared to 540 x 960 pixels, 4.0 inches (~275 ppi pixel density) for atrix)
The LG will have ICS whereas Atrix has froyo (european is 2.3.4) but the atrix can be easily modded on here.
I've never owned an LG phone so I can't comment on build/durability but I have had my atrix for 8 months now and I've never had any of the issues you have mentioned and I can't recomend it enough.
I would think it's a choice between the 'new' LG or the older Atrix (not to confuse matters but you could always look at one of the 'new' motorola phones). Decisions Decisions!
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Looking at the specs of the phone the LG doesn't match up to the Atrix with ram (512 compared to 1gb) and also internal memory is only 4GB on the LG compared to 16 GB .
The atrix has a bigger capaity battery but not by much.
The screen is larger on the LG (4.3) but I am not sure how the pixels ect compare (480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density) compared to 540 x 960 pixels, 4.0 inches (~275 ppi pixel density) for atrix)
The LG will have ICS whereas Atrix has froyo (european is 2.3.4) but the atrix can be easily modded on here.
I've never owned an LG phone so I can't comment on build/durability but I have had my atrix for 8 months now and I've never had any of the issues you have mentioned and I can't recomend it enough.
I would think it's a choice between the 'new' LG or the older Atrix (not to confuse matters but you could always look at one of the 'new' motorola phones). Decisions Decisions!
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+1 on everything except that atrix will be receiving ICS official as well
It's a great phone but if you have large hands/fingers, this will feel like holding a toy. I'd get the SGS2 if I were you and you will be good to go for a long time.
I would have to agree with everyone in that this phone is still a very reasonable option without spending tons of money. The best option for purchasing would be through an online retailer as a few of the carriers have stopped selling it. Most respectable web stores (ie Amazon, wirefly, etc should still have a decent number in stock)
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I recommend it also got mine for £160 as a Grade B used device from CeX was cheaper with store credit only had scuffs on battery cover.
Worth every penny very powerful and decent battery life.
Atrix is well wourth money hasnt had overheating problem since about 3rd or 4th update its extreamily stable and is as awsome as everyone above is saying this phone will even handle a 1.6 oc and only reaches 50 ºC on the heavyest of games and note the LG androids have a nasty habbit that depending on model they start rebooting at random after 6months-a year most optimus are 6 months
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You'd be hard pressed to find something with an unlocked boot loader and the performance specs for the price of an Atrix 4G right now...
i have the same question, currently using desire z, very annoyed with the lag of ram which make it impossible to run many latest game, and how is this front camera perform?
im in the market for phone with at least 768 ram and ok front camera
and how easy to root this phone?
I use a Samsung G S II Skyrocket now as my main phone.
I use the Atrix for my lapdock, mainly.
Atrix is still a great phone but it is harder to deal with (unlock), the touchscreen isn't as responsive as the Skyrocket and it is slower than the Sky.
Also, Motoblur is a pain...
There are some cool tools for the Sky; Darkside Superwipe, for example. And the screen on the Sky is really gorgeous. Originally, I was unhappy with the battery life but a quick root, debloat and a Faux kernel fixed all of that. And the Sky folks are playing around with a leaked ICS...
i would be planning to flash rom straight away so motorblur won't be an issue if it is easy enough to root
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i have the same question, currently using desire z, very annoyed with the lag of ram which make it impossible to run many latest game, and how is this front camera perform?
im in the market for phone with at least 768 ram and ok front camera
and how easy to root this phone?
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its very simple to root this phone..just plug in, install drivers and run a program and it does everything for you..the front camera is good.. not great..but good for posing with the girlfriend or video chats..the back camera however takes great quality photos(if you want I can send you pics from either camera)
also, I've never experienced any lag while playing games on this phone(having played games like dead space and galaxy on fire 2, and fruit ninja HD)
Once Updated...
I've had the atrix for almost a year now, (rooted with a new launcher) and I liked it during that whole time. However I recently took the plunge and flashed ICS/CM9 (Jokersax)... now I love the phone. It's fast, smooth, well organized, a pleasure to use all around - with CM9, I feel like Android has finally reached the point where it is both more customizable AND more elegant than the easy-to-use iPhone.
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its very simple to root this phone..just plug in, install drivers and run a program and it does everything for you..the front camera is good.. not great..but good for posing with the girlfriend or video chats..the back camera however takes great quality photos(if you want I can send you pics from either camera)
also, I've never experienced any lag while playing games on this phone(having played games like dead space and galaxy on fire 2, and fruit ninja HD)
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it will be great if you can send pic from both camera so I can compare it, have not got avga camera to compare since it was no in the days of good old Sony Ericsson K700 does the front camera work with Skype?
I'm struggling to think that while this phone is may be worth it but quad core will be out soon
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it will be great if you can send pic from both camera so I can compare it, have not got avga camera to compare since it was no in the days of good old Sony Ericsson K700 does the front camera work with Skype?
I'm struggling to think that while this phone is may be worth it but quad core will be out soon
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okay, here you go, the first picture is the front facing camera, you can see its not wonderful quality but good for quick snapshots of yourself or you and whoever, and as good a quality for video calls as I've seen..the last two are from the back facing camera, and while it's not amazing, it's also no slouch either..
yeah I used skype once on it and it did work, but I mostly use gtalk and it works well..
of course if you have the time to wait for the quad phones to come out and the money to buy them, you might as well..this is a year old phone, which means it might be a little outdated, however its really excellent for the cheap price
edit: this is done without the MIUI camera, which takes better quality pictures, but doesn't allow you to take pictures through the front facing
The atriz has been out for about a year now so its gonna lose support after it gets ice. I'm having a boatload of problems. Wifi/Bluetooth is taken out and half of my screen isn't working. other then that its a pretty solid phone. When I close everything and have juice defender on extreme and screen off it dross about 2 percent per hour. It seems the Africa has its flaws like Bluetooth and the digitizer. I'm pretty sure that's why they released the affix 2 I think you should look into the newer phones. Then research what Rome they have and how strong the developing community is. The Africa for me is 7/10 just cause of the hardware problems. If it didn't it'd be 10. It can run with a tiny lag at 456 on neutrino Tom 2.6 which is incredible. But yeah. That's my take on the phone! Make sure the one you get has gorrila glass. The attic is a beast. I dropped it about 10 metres down the down the stairs on accident then fell another 5. Nothingbhappened to it haha. I heard the nexus has amazing battery life.
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Lol, Africa.
Wow, you must have typed that all on your phone. Rome? Tom? Affix? Attic?
Atrix hands down!!
I have bought an Atrix for 15 days now and the only thing that I can say about it is that I absolutely adore it.
Its not my first dual core Smartphone since I came from a broken Optimus 3D, which, for the record, was the worst buy ever.
The Atrix is ridiculously faster than the O3D, the 1gb of RAM on the atrix does a huge difference and is really necessary nowadays (O3D had 512mb and was always out of free RAM)
The battery in the Atrix is unbelievable. Till today Never ran out of it, and would run out of battery every single day with the O3D.
The Atrix is way more reliable than any LG phone, and I'm telling you, I worked there, I know what I'm saying.
Go with the Atrix, you will NOT be disappointed, trust me.