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I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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even if your phone shows ur not roaming it will on your bill and you will get kicked
what roaming? I thought sprint has free roaming?
This no longer the case?
Can you give me some info on how you changed to the verizon prl?
You can't hide that. Just like you can't hide your phone from 911. Verizon is aware of your number roaming. They will charge sprint for every minute and kilobyte you use. Since your are using verizon constantly, sprint will be charged a lot for your use. They will then, sooner rather than later, terminate your contract...and again soon. See it happen in these forums before.
Your brand new evo3d will then be without a service.
What do you expect? You can't root and bypass your way past everything. Sometimes you have to pay for stuff. Plus, sprint is the only unlimited data carrier left. If people continue to do as you are doing, and teether, etc...then that unlimited data may become limited.
OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
Mike
mikeyxda said:
OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
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The PRL the OP put into place makes his phone roam on verizon constantly. A PRL serves as a handshake between the phone and the towers. Standard PRL looks for sprint towers, and if none are present it looks for verizon. The OP seems to have installed a prl that looks for verizon towers first.
You may be right about the free roam agreement, but sprint still cancels people's service if they are abusing this. Just happened in the Evo forums. There may be a free roam agreement, but verizon won't tolerate sprint customers exclusively using their bandwidth if they are not paying for it. They will then tell sprint that so and so number needs to be cut. Then sprint will send you a letter saying your contract is to be terminated on so and so date due to excess roaming. So, theoretically, this could happen to someone who has sprint, but lives in a sprint dead zone where they have to use verizon all the time.
Do it for long enough and they will cancel your service.
Where we live is a Sprint dead zone. Occasionally we do pick up the distant Sprint tower and my service says "Sprint" but I'd say at least 75% of the time my phone is using a Verizon tower since I work at home. Never got a spanking. Of course, I guess if I changed my PRL and they noticed I'm on all sorts of different Verizon towers (even where there is good Sprint coverage), maybe then they'd raise an eyebrow? I wonder if their setup is sophisticated enough to detect that you use Verizon towers all over town as opposed to using one particular tower all the time just because you live in a fringe area. Interesting.
What we really need is not a new PRL: we need the ability to change the phone's preferences so it switches to Verizon's towers earlier. For example, switch to Verizon towers ANY time the Verizon signal is better... not just when the Sprint signal becomes so weak it drops out.
Mike
FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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Ya i got one coming myself
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FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
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Yup.. I've got one, but haven't activated it yet... It kind of sux that I have to use my in-home broadband bandwidth to get decent service from Sprint.
Another thing that sux is that when I'm out on the water (Chesapeake Bay), Verizon has solid service where Sprint's service is spotty. Sprint's PRL is also set to NOT roam on these Verizon towers, causing a battery drain like there's no tomorrow.
Looks, like I might have to start using a Verizon PRL,when going out fishing..
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I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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How are you switching PRLs? The ##PRL# EPST code doesn't seem to work for me.
Be careful with that Verizon PRL, after moths of using it, Sprint will call you and will cancel your account
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Roaming data is not unlimited. So, if you roam every once in a while and pull down your latest email or check a map, etc., you'll be fine. If you're always on roaming data and pull too much data, you will be dropped. I've heard different numbers for the limits, but there is one.
Whatever happened to the ability to force roaming? On older devices we used to be able to pick "Sprint Only" "Automatic" and "Roaming".
I would always do that when I was getting crap Sprint signal.
I switched them using qpst. I have about 7 or 8 different prls saved to my computer I switch to to see what works the best.
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I got a contract termination letter in the mail from Sprint today saying I was using too much data while roaming. I have been in contact with them since day 3 about my poor coverage (-115db) at home and work (-105db 1x!). The airwave is backordered for 4 months, so oops.
Question is: I am new to Cincinnati. I need a carrier for 3 smartphones (one in Iowa) with 5gb per month on two of them and 10gb on the third. I would like to stay under $200 per month which cuts out At&t and Verizon (reason I left Big Red). T-Mobile jumps to mind, but the Iowa phone would be left roaming all the time. Cincinnati Bell is the same. Any ideas? And no, the Iowa phone can't use the T-Mobile wifi calling, no wifi
ianoob said:
I got a contract termination letter in the mail from Sprint today saying I was using too much data while roaming. I have been in contact with them since day 3 about my poor coverage (-115db) at home and work (-105db 1x!). The airwave is backordered for 4 months, so oops.
Question is: I am new to Cincinnati. I need a carrier for 3 smartphones (one in Iowa) with 5gb per month on two of them and 10gb on the third. I would like to stay under $200 per month which cuts out At&t and Verizon (reason I left Big Red). T-Mobile jumps to mind, but the Iowa phone would be left roaming all the time. Cincinnati Bell is the same. Any ideas? And no, the Iowa phone can't use the T-Mobile wifi calling, no wifi
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If Sprint terminate that suck. the second is t mobile cause they have unlimited data but they slow down your data if u use to much. the other two u going be paying a arm and a leg....... how much data do u use, cuz i use 35GB one mouth. im still good. do you have a contract on you phones??
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If Sprint terminate that suck. the second is t mobile cause they have unlimited data but they slow down your data if u use to much. the other two u going be paying a arm and a leg....... how much data do u use, cuz i use 35GB one mouth. im still good. do you have a contract on you phones??
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No, they canceled my early termination fees about a month ago due to my complaining. They also waive them when they cancel your contract for excessive roaming so I'm double good there.
I hear very mixed things about T-Mobile, but they do have cheap plans. Got to ask a rep about their roaming limits...
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No, they canceled my early termination fees about a month ago due to my complaining. They also waive them when they cancel your contract for excessive roaming so I'm double good there.
I hear very mixed things about T-Mobile, but they do have cheap plans. Got to ask a rep about their roaming limits...
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I would try tmobile the other 2 will cost you a lot money with the amount of data you use, or try to go craiglist and take over a unlimited data plan for ATT , I seen a few people on my area doing, and that's what I did with ky last Verizon line, I do miss LTE tho
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1. Like the other post say "Were you using prl 00001" or any other prl besides the default one?
2.Also what plan were you on and is unlimited data roaming included in your plan?
Just wondering b/c I use prl 00001 and have Sero Premium which have unlimited data and voice roaming. I use prl 00001 with every phone I get and have been doing it for over a year now. I never get any extra charges or letters from Sprint. Yes, I do use over 300mb a month. On avg I use about 1.2 gb a month
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were you using prl 00001?
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No special PRLs, they were causing my phone to get the verizon "cannot authenticate your phone" messages. The towers at work are being upgraded and the towers for home are just crappy.
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I would try tmobile the other 2 will cost you a lot money with the amount of data you use, or try to go craiglist and take over a unlimited data plan for ATT , I seen a few people on my area doing, and that's what I did with ky last Verizon line, I do miss LTE tho
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Yeah, T-Mobile is the cheapest national left. Didn't know about taking over peoples data plans. Big Red told me that when I upgraded my Eris I would have to sign a new contract and my bill would shoot up, otherwise I never woulda dropped them.
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1. Like the other post say "Were you using prl 00001" or any other prl besides the default one?
2.Also what plan were you on and is unlimited data roaming included in your plan?
Just wondering b/c I use prl 00001 and have Sero Premium which have unlimited data and voice roaming. I use prl 00001 with every phone I get and have been doing it for over a year now. I never get any extra charges or letters from Sprint. Yes, I do use over 300mb a month. On avg I use about 1.2 gb a month
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Lucky
ianoob said:
No special PRLs, they were causing my phone to get the verizon "cannot authenticate your phone" messages. The towers at work are being upgraded and the towers for home are just crappy.
Yeah, T-Mobile is the cheapest national left. Didn't know about taking over peoples data plans. Big Red told me that when I upgraded my Eris I would have to sign a new contract and my bill would shoot up, otherwise I never woulda dropped them.
Lucky
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Verizon lied to you BTW Eris was nice LOL
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Verizon lied to you BTW Eris was nice LOL
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Loved that little phone lol. They lost a customer by telling me that, maybe they didn't want somebody who actually used their unlimited data to keep it... 8gb with my Eris probably would wind up as more with a phone that supported flash. No idea what I'd be using with the 3d since I never had a signal.
What about Boost (owned by sprint but just bought a new home)? Their website is vague, do they care if I roam?
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I would look into T-mobile. Im in Iowa. We have iWireless. its a tmobile affiliate. they get signal just about everywhere on the mississippi (east) side.
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I would look into T-mobile. Im in Iowa. We have iWireless. its a tmobile affiliate. they get signal just about everywhere on the mississippi (east) side.
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I lived in Iowa City until August, brother in law lives in Clinton and his is the phone staying there. Thanks for the reminder!
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Have you looked into US Cellular at all?
http://www.uscellular.com/coverage-map/coverage-indicator.html
I didn't know your ZIP code(s) so I couldn't check exact coverage.
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Have you looked into US Cellular at all?
http://www.uscellular.com/coverage-map/coverage-indicator.html
I didn't know your ZIP code(s) so I couldn't check exact coverage.
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Yeah, was the 1st I thought of, but they don't cover Cincinnati
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Looks like Best Buy has the Sensation for free. I'll pocket a $140 each giftcard for my 3D, or I could sell it to Gazelle for $170 or try e-bay?
Holy He!l, i'm in cincinnati too and WOW does sprint coverage SUCK BALLS. My phone is ALWAYS in roaming, switch back to sprint with 1bar, no bars, back to roaming. If i'm in the house, its always roaming. my evo 4g would hold at 1-2 bars, but the 3d is ALWAYS roaming. I had no idea i could get too-much-roaming-data. i did not change my prl, no verizon prl, no changes or tricks to it.
bummer man. now i'm all worried....
i know its not the new 3G one. im using that. I have my old samsung sprint airave 1x. iwould be willing to sell if the price is right. its like new. pm me if your interested.
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Holy He!l, i'm in cincinnati too and WOW does sprint coverage SUCK BALLS. My phone is ALWAYS in roaming, switch back to sprint with 1bar, no bars, back to roaming. If i'm in the house, its always roaming. my evo 4g would hold at 1-2 bars, but the 3d is ALWAYS roaming. I had no idea i could get too-much-roaming-data. i did not change my prl, no verizon prl, no changes or tricks to it.
bummer man. now i'm all worried....
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the fine print on the contract say's 300mb roaming data per month. if you're worried about it, download something like juice defender that will choke your data usage or set your data to wifi only whenever you're not on sprint's towers.
I just didn't care. been with sprint since june when the 3d came out. was in iowa then and they promised it would be better when i moved here. moved in august and it was worse lol. they agreed to waive my etf, i just been waiting for a deal elsewhere.
funny, they told me the same thing. i have been with sprint for 14 years, the last 10 years i was in KC and couldn't complain (except about clearwire) and they swore to me up and down cincinnati was actually better coverage, and when i got here, jesus its horrid. i guess there's a lot more "tower" sites here, but they won't listen to you about the elevation. i've called over 10 times, and there is just apparently no way to talk to anyone that has anything to do with getting messages to the actual network systems people. The problem here, cincinnati valley, is that this town is crazily hilly. strong signal down between the hills and at the hill tops but the 80% of the city that is actually ON a hill's slope gets zero signal, and its even worse on 4g. the highways are the only place with reliable service. Verizon has solid service everywhere, and t-mobile is the best national here. Cincinnati bell is amazing as they have a transmitter on every light post and telephone pole in both counties, but they have horrible roaming agreements and plans if you leave the city with any regularity.
All of us with sprint love it except for the actual coverage, which makes it embarrassing to try and show off sprints greatness. The biggest problem is Sprint doesn't seem to understand how elevation works with these 7 hills and mini-mountains and thinks its a flat city like the midwest, and just covers in downward cones from their cell transmitter sites. ATT also seems to have this problem.
In cincinnati, verizon is solid coverage, T-Mobile is awesome, better than verizon. And the stupid cinicnnati bell is the best. ATT and Sprint are retarded for not utilizing local knowledge and input with their deployment here. I'm as close to being fed up as I can without switching. I'm right on the line. now, not only am i upset and frustrated, but i'm worried about roaming data overages or termination. i just use my phone for tv, directv nfl, radio, hell, i use my phone for media more than my tv, just under 5gigs a month, which is the main reason i still don't seriously consider switching. thank god for wifi @work.
So, i'd recommend Tmobile for national, and i'm weary of cincinnati bell but maybe its ok for you. Verizon gets a lot of minor complaints where i work, and their thunderbird sucks compared to the evo 4g, but they have strong lte 4g here. stay away from AT&T.
good luck!!
----ps, anyone know how to reach actual network deployment department @ sprint??? its so easy to explain to them what the problem is and how to fix it. there's just no way to get the info to them
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funny, they told me the same thing. i have been with sprint for 14 years, the last 10 years i was in KC and couldn't complain (except about clearwire) and they swore to me up and down cincinnati was actually better coverage, and when i got here, jesus its horrid. i guess there's a lot more "tower" sites here, but they won't listen to you about the elevation. i've called over 10 times, and there is just apparently no way to talk to anyone that has anything to do with getting messages to the actual network systems people. The problem here, cincinnati valley, is that this town is crazily hilly. strong signal down between the hills and at the hill tops but the 80% of the city that is actually ON a hill's slope gets zero signal, and its even worse on 4g. the highways are the only place with reliable service. Verizon has solid service everywhere, and t-mobile is the best national here. Cincinnati bell is amazing as they have a transmitter on every light post and telephone pole in both counties, but they have horrible roaming agreements and plans if you leave the city with any regularity.
All of us with sprint love it except for the actual coverage, which makes it embarrassing to try and show off sprints greatness. The biggest problem is Sprint doesn't seem to understand how elevation works with these 7 hills and mini-mountains and thinks its a flat city like the midwest, and just covers in downward cones from their cell transmitter sites. ATT also seems to have this problem.
In cincinnati, verizon is solid coverage, T-Mobile is awesome, better than verizon. And the stupid cinicnnati bell is the best. ATT and Sprint are retarded for not utilizing local knowledge and input with their deployment here. I'm as close to being fed up as I can without switching. I'm right on the line. now, not only am i upset and frustrated, but i'm worried about roaming data overages or termination. i just use my phone for tv, directv nfl, radio, hell, i use my phone for media more than my tv, just under 5gigs a month, which is the main reason i still don't seriously consider switching. thank god for wifi @work.
So, i'd recommend Tmobile for national, and i'm weary of cincinnati bell but maybe its ok for you. Verizon gets a lot of minor complaints where i work, and their thunderbird sucks compared to the evo 4g, but they have strong lte 4g here. stay away from AT&T.
good luck!!
----ps, anyone know how to reach actual network deployment department @ sprint??? its so easy to explain to them what the problem is and how to fix it. there's just no way to get the info to them
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Thanks for the input, I was contemplating Cinci Bell but their customer service sucks and I will travel back to Iowa 4-5 times a year. That and the Sensation is way better than any phones they have LOL (especially at $99). Now trying to decide if I should wait another two weeks for the Amaze since I have 30 days.
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What all do I need to do to my phone to sell it?
So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Wow that is bs, its not your fault that they don't have signal in your area, I talked to them before moving telling them I wasn't going to have signal and was wondering if there was something they could do and they just said "there are no outages in your area" and I just got pissed cuz they obviously weren't listening to me and closed the convo. I really hope I don't get one of those cuz otherwise imma smack a hoe
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So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Unfortunately, your problem is not as uncommon as you would think. "Unlimited Roaming" basically means nothing except that you won't be charged for being off network. If Sprint feels that you're roaming too much, rather then charge you for roaming, they cancel your contract.....which is also in your terms of service. Have you tried asking them to send you an Air Rave to use while you're at home? That might help to get you off of roaming. Also, be sure to keep your PRL and radios up to date, and stay off of the Verizon PRL's which force you to roam virtually all of the time.
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I really hope I don't get one of those cuz otherwise imma smack a hoe
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LMFAO
hockeyfamily737 said:
Unfortunately, your problem is not as uncommon as you would think. "Unlimited Roaming" basically means nothing except that you won't be charged for being off network. If Sprint feels that you're roaming too much, rather then charge you for roaming, they cancel your contract.....which is also in your terms of service. Have you tried asking them to send you an Air Rave to use while you're at home? That might help to get you off of roaming. Also, be sure to keep your PRL and radios up to date, and stay off of the Verizon PRL's which force you to roam virtually all of the time.
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@OP - What this guy says.
In area where i live, i have good 3g signal and 2bars of 4g, but not inside my house, only if ill step outside and its often rain in here and gettin cold so what i do is i open my window (my room is on 3rd floor) and put my phone on it, that way i get good 3g signal no roaming(which used to happen to me once a day) and sometimes it goes all the way to 4g...
you just need to walk around house and try to find good spot...lol
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In area where i live, i have good 3g signal and 2bars of 4g, but not inside my house, only if ill step outside and its often rain in here and gettin cold so what i do is i open my window (my room is on 3rd floor) and put my phone on it, that way i get good 3g signal no roaming(which used to happen to me once a day) and sometimes it goes all the way to 4g...
you just need to walk around house and try to find good spot...lol
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Talk to account services and ask for an air rave thats free and its going to boost ur signal inside ur house
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Tanwir20 said:
So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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You get a [previously 30 day] 14 day return policy for these devices.
If you weren't getting any reception and the coverage maps on the website show that you don't get good reception... why are you going with this carrier?
It's like setting yourself up just to have something to ***** about.
Roaming is also defined in your contract.
I see no where which stipulates it's "unlimited"
https://manage.sprintpcs.com/output/en_US/manage/MyPhoneandPlan/ChangePlans/popLegalTermsPrivacy.htm
They are actually quite clear about the rules:
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
Helps to read contracts and make informed choices before signing them.
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So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Approx. how much roaming data have you been using?
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Approx. how much roaming data have you been using?
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Kinda wanna know the same thing. Trying to figure out if I feel bad for you or of I should smack you silly for downloading videos while tethering on Verizon.
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Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
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This.
If you exceeded either 1 or 2, then you have no right to complain. I read my entire contract before I signed it. Just because you might not have, it doesn't exclude you from what you are legally bound to. Luckily Sprint is just canceling your service. Most other carriers would just charge you.
The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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Great reply. Has nothing to do with the thread and if you have been paying attention at all to what Sprint is in the process of doing to their network, you would restate your post.
talon95 said:
The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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Actually, finally a post that is to the point and it is very relevant to this thread! It doesn't sound like the OP is knowingly using roam control or a Verizon PRL. In that case, here we have a person who went to a Sprint store and they set up a phone and service for this customer. When you do that, the customer has a reasonable expectation of actually getting the service they signed up for! Sprint has your address when you sign up. They know where you live. So IMO, the onus is on Sprint for looking at the customer's address, finding that on a coverage map, and advising that they cannot properly serve this customer.
So yeah, one solution would certainly be for Sprint to develop their network so it isn't full of holes! The other is for them to just keep doing what they are doing: selling service to people they can't serve and then terminating them by sending a letter as if the customer is doing something wrong by roaming!
Mike
tgruendler said:
Great reply. Has nothing to do with the thread and if you have been paying attention at all to what Sprint is in the process of doing to their network, you would restate your post.
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Actually, I even listened to the press conference. It has everything to do with this thread though. Even if people are deliberately roaming, that usually only happens when their service is very poor. I get horrible data speeds in the area that I work, even outside, despite Sprint's coverage map showing I should have good 3G coverage.
Hopefully they will fix things, but I'm just not very confident they will.
Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
talon95 said:
The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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mikeyxda said:
Actually, finally a post that is to the point and it is very relevant to this thread! It doesn't sound like the OP is knowingly using roam control or a Verizon PRL. In that case, here we have a person who went to a Sprint store and they set up a phone and service for this customer. When you do that, the customer has a reasonable expectation of actually getting the service they signed up for! Sprint has your address when you sign up. They know where you live. So IMO, the onus is on Sprint for looking at the customer's address, finding that on a coverage map, and advising that they cannot properly serve this customer.
So yeah, one solution would certainly be for Sprint to develop their network so it isn't full of holes! The other is for them to just keep doing what they are doing: selling service to people they can't serve and then terminating them by sending a letter as if the customer is doing something wrong by roaming!
Mike
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Actually, I even listened to the press conference. It has everything to do with this thread though. Even if people are deliberately roaming, that usually only happens when their service is very poor. I get horrible data speeds in the area that I work, even outside, despite Sprint's coverage map showing I should have good 3G coverage.
Hopefully they will fix things, but I'm just not very confident they will.
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melvnx said:
Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
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No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
mattykinsx said:
No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
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melvnx said:
Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
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How could you be pissed. Sprint should be pissed because they lost money because you hacked your phone to only use Verizon towers which cost them money. How long was it after you bought your phone to when you moved? Did you know that you were moving before you bought your phone?
You, as a consumer, has a responsibility to make sure that the service you are buying works for you the way it should. There is no way for sprint to know exactly how good the coverage is for every house. There are places where you get four bars and then walk 50 feet and get 0-1 bar. When you purchased the phone and realized that you were roaming, you should then have returned it or contacted customer service for a solution. But by ignoring the problem and blaming Sprint, you lose all credibility.
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No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
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That would be fine if there were no ETF.
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That would be fine if there were no ETF.
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Believe it or not, that's exactly what the 14 [formerly 30] day return policy is for.
Yes, it's about making sure your phone is what you want but it's more importantly for making sure the service is worth it for you.
As someone else said, Sprint [and all other carriers] cannot tell you how the service is going to act specifically for you.
They don't know where you go, they don't know the setup of your house, any large structures in the area, different terrain, etc etc etc.
Two weeks is plenty of time to determine this, and there's NO ETF in those first two weeks.
I am wondering if there is a prl to flash for the evo 3d, sprint network is terrible arround here, I am currently using the verizon prl, although better, not as good as US Cellular in my area, expecially at work.
Thanks in advance
GGerk said:
I am wondering if there is a prl to flash for the evo 3d, sprint network is terrible arround here, I am currently using the verizon prl, although better, not as good as US Cellular in my area, expecially at work.
Thanks in advance
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No I don't think anyone has made one of those. Is us cellular a cdma network? Have you tried the 1337, or 3137(can't remember if this is correct but it does start with a3). Or maybe even that sprint business PRL 1115 I think it is.
The Sprint business PRL (11115) only allows for roaming on Verizon I believe. I don't believe they have any roaming agreement with US Cellular, unfortunately.
I tried the 115000 and it didn't work as well as the 00001
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The Sprint business PRL (11115) only allows for roaming on Verizon I believe. I don't believe they have any roaming agreement with US Cellular, unfortunately.
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I checked into it, and one of sprints reciprocal roaming agreements is with us cellular. However the agreement is only for voice and 1xrtt, but no 3G. We could find out all the roaming agreements if someone put their sprint PRL into one of the PRL decoders floating around out there.
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I tried the 115000 and it didn't work as well as the 00001
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Yeah, that would make sense. 01 is a custom PRL, and its targets are to force roaming on to Verizon towers. 15 is a PRL encoded by sprint for business customers. Its main target is sprint towers, but directs the antenna to Verizon towers, and all the other company's that sprint has roaming agreements for. It only does the roaming though if it can't find a sprint tower. Also with 15 it will settle for roaming towers that only have 1xrtt, as opposed to the custom PRLs that aim for Verizon 3G towers whenever possible.
Try out the other 2 PRL
there is 01337 and 31337 PRLs. I have yet to test the 31337 but 01337 works well. 00001 targets Verizon towers by default before Sprint, and if that one doesnt help you much I dont think 01337 will either as it is just a modified 00001. 11115 Wont help either as you still have some Sprint service so it still defaults to that network.
Here are 3 US Cellular PRL files for you to try:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EFOKA16L
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O6JINILZ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9W7K02BI
15096 allows 3G roaming. Enjoy
Is it safe to install prl 15096? I have an EVO 3d with free roaming
sorry havent checked back in a while, I will give all 3 a try
Thanks
I just want to know if I'm gonna get extra charges from sprint if I use those 3 prls
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I just want to know if I'm gonna get extra charges from sprint if I use those 3 prls
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First off, it is too dangerous to use any of these unless you have a plan with unlimited roaming. However even so sprint has gotten very sneaky. They have advertised unlimited roaming, but just like their unlimited data if you do too much [voice or data roaming], or a majority of your usage is roaming [even if you barely use any] your contract states in fine print that they can terminate service. Now so long as you aren't tethering a ton, or using lots of data they don't seem to mind, but if you do they send you a warning, if it persists they terminate you. You should not get charged ever with the plan you have, and you shouldn't get terminated unless you hog data. Hogging data on sprint is bad enough but hogging data on Verizon via roaming is very wrong. They won't terminate you unless you are abusive, so I hope you have nothing to worry about.
Since Megaupload is down could you please repost the prls
Thanks
Check THIS thread. A guy here on XDA is testing all sorts of different PRL methods. Hope it helps!
GGerk said:
Since Megaupload is down could you please repost the prls
Thanks
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Here is 15094 and 15096. My roommate has u.s. cell and his prl is 15114 im gonna try to pull it later...
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Here is 15094 and 15096. My roommate has u.s. cell and his prl is 15114 im gonna try to pull it later...
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I have been searching for an EVDO US Cellular PRL for around a year now, and have never found one. I tried yours, and they work. How do you go about extracting them from a phone? I've never been able to figure that out. I really needed this since most of the places my Sprint phone roams in have little to none Verizon coverage, while there's perfect US Cellular 3G.
petarmarinov37 said:
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I have been searching for an EVDO US Cellular PRL for around a year now, and have never found one. I tried yours, and they work. How do you go about extracting them from a phone? I've never been able to figure that out. I really needed this since most of the places my Sprint phone roams in have little to none Verizon coverage, while there's perfect US Cellular 3G.
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Well it depends on what brand of phone you have. The ultimate goal is get into diag mode and from there you can use QPST or DFS to pull the prl.
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I currently use a Verizon M7 with an old "grandfathered" Verizon unlimited data plan... I really have no complaints about the service level, phone calls are clear and don't drop, LTE data speeds are great... Nonetheless, I dislike Verizon's increasingly-successful efforts to lock-down their devices to an unbreakable degree, I dislike the fact that Verizon STILL hasn't released Lollipop for their M7, AND I feel I'm paying way too much money every month for my line and 3 other lines for my wife and kids (they DON'T have unlimited data).
So, T-Mobile's month-to-month plans and offers to buy out Verizon contracts is tempting... Questions:
Does modern GSM still buzz through every nearby speaker?
How solid are telephone conversations on T-Mobile? Are you happy with their USA network? I'm working around the greater SF bay area with business travel to major metro areas - few road trips...
Are T-Mo's "unlimited" data plans truly unlimited, or do they throttle down speeds after a certain threshold?
Dare I keep using my m7wlv (verizon's HTC One variant) on T-Mo's network? Presumably I can just swap out the SIM, but I suspect limited band selection, etc.
Thanks!
bmeek said:
I currently use a Verizon M7 with an old "grandfathered" Verizon unlimited data plan... I really have no complaints about the service level, phone calls are clear and don't drop, LTE data speeds are great... Nonetheless, I dislike Verizon's increasingly-successful efforts to lock-down their devices to an unbreakable degree, I dislike the fact that Verizon STILL hasn't released Lollipop for their M7, AND I feel I'm paying way too much money every month for my line and 3 other lines for my wife and kids (they DON'T have unlimited data).
So, T-Mobile's month-to-month plans and offers to buy out Verizon contracts is tempting... Questions:
Does modern GSM still buzz through every nearby speaker?
How solid are telephone conversations on T-Mobile? Are you happy with their USA network? I'm working around the greater SF bay area with business travel to major metro areas - few road trips...
Are T-Mo's "unlimited" data plans truly unlimited, or do they throttle down speeds after a certain threshold?
Dare I keep using my m7wlv (verizon's HTC One variant) on T-Mo's network? Presumably I can just swap out the SIM, but I suspect limited band selection, etc.
Thanks!
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Been on T-moblie for 1 1/2 yrs - came from Version
1) No - Never heard of this problem
2) Telephone conversations are just as good as on Verizon. We live in the Tucson, AZ area and have really good coverage here. I'm aware of a couple of spots where signal drops, but am rarely in those areas so no big deal. On road trips, coverage not as good as Verizon but on a trip to Glacier National Park, had signal 75% of the time (50% or more was roaming but at least we could still make calls). Considering the saving over Verizon, I'm happy to put up with that, especially since this is a once a year thing for a week or two only.
3) They throttle down speeds after you reach your high speed data limit. BE AWARE -- when roaming, data is greatly limited, and when you reach the limit, you are cut off.
4) No idea. When we switched, my son had a Verizon Nokia phone that was listed on T-mobile as compatible -- it mostly worked but there were a couple of things that didn't work quite right -- something with texting that didn't work right. After a couple of months, he sold it to my cousin who is on Verison, and wanted that particular phone and bought a Verizon model.
If I had it to do over again would I switch -- Most Definitely! I'm paying less on T-mobile for 4 smart phones than I did on Verizon for 3 flip phones and 1 smart phone, no contracts, unlimited text & talk and just as good of service. Nationwide, coverage is not nearly as good as Verizon, but then I'm not nationwide -- Just be sure to check coverage maps for the areas where coverage is important to you.
Hope that helps - I'll be sure to check back if you have more questions.
p.s. Opps, need to change my signature -- it's now a HTC One