So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Wow that is bs, its not your fault that they don't have signal in your area, I talked to them before moving telling them I wasn't going to have signal and was wondering if there was something they could do and they just said "there are no outages in your area" and I just got pissed cuz they obviously weren't listening to me and closed the convo. I really hope I don't get one of those cuz otherwise imma smack a hoe
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So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Unfortunately, your problem is not as uncommon as you would think. "Unlimited Roaming" basically means nothing except that you won't be charged for being off network. If Sprint feels that you're roaming too much, rather then charge you for roaming, they cancel your contract.....which is also in your terms of service. Have you tried asking them to send you an Air Rave to use while you're at home? That might help to get you off of roaming. Also, be sure to keep your PRL and radios up to date, and stay off of the Verizon PRL's which force you to roam virtually all of the time.
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I really hope I don't get one of those cuz otherwise imma smack a hoe
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Unfortunately, your problem is not as uncommon as you would think. "Unlimited Roaming" basically means nothing except that you won't be charged for being off network. If Sprint feels that you're roaming too much, rather then charge you for roaming, they cancel your contract.....which is also in your terms of service. Have you tried asking them to send you an Air Rave to use while you're at home? That might help to get you off of roaming. Also, be sure to keep your PRL and radios up to date, and stay off of the Verizon PRL's which force you to roam virtually all of the time.
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@OP - What this guy says.
In area where i live, i have good 3g signal and 2bars of 4g, but not inside my house, only if ill step outside and its often rain in here and gettin cold so what i do is i open my window (my room is on 3rd floor) and put my phone on it, that way i get good 3g signal no roaming(which used to happen to me once a day) and sometimes it goes all the way to 4g...
you just need to walk around house and try to find good spot...lol
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In area where i live, i have good 3g signal and 2bars of 4g, but not inside my house, only if ill step outside and its often rain in here and gettin cold so what i do is i open my window (my room is on 3rd floor) and put my phone on it, that way i get good 3g signal no roaming(which used to happen to me once a day) and sometimes it goes all the way to 4g...
you just need to walk around house and try to find good spot...lol
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Talk to account services and ask for an air rave thats free and its going to boost ur signal inside ur house
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Tanwir20 said:
So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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You get a [previously 30 day] 14 day return policy for these devices.
If you weren't getting any reception and the coverage maps on the website show that you don't get good reception... why are you going with this carrier?
It's like setting yourself up just to have something to ***** about.
Roaming is also defined in your contract.
I see no where which stipulates it's "unlimited"
https://manage.sprintpcs.com/output/en_US/manage/MyPhoneandPlan/ChangePlans/popLegalTermsPrivacy.htm
They are actually quite clear about the rules:
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
Helps to read contracts and make informed choices before signing them.
Tanwir20 said:
So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Approx. how much roaming data have you been using?
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Approx. how much roaming data have you been using?
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Kinda wanna know the same thing. Trying to figure out if I feel bad for you or of I should smack you silly for downloading videos while tethering on Verizon.
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Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
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This.
If you exceeded either 1 or 2, then you have no right to complain. I read my entire contract before I signed it. Just because you might not have, it doesn't exclude you from what you are legally bound to. Luckily Sprint is just canceling your service. Most other carriers would just charge you.
The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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Great reply. Has nothing to do with the thread and if you have been paying attention at all to what Sprint is in the process of doing to their network, you would restate your post.
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The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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Actually, finally a post that is to the point and it is very relevant to this thread! It doesn't sound like the OP is knowingly using roam control or a Verizon PRL. In that case, here we have a person who went to a Sprint store and they set up a phone and service for this customer. When you do that, the customer has a reasonable expectation of actually getting the service they signed up for! Sprint has your address when you sign up. They know where you live. So IMO, the onus is on Sprint for looking at the customer's address, finding that on a coverage map, and advising that they cannot properly serve this customer.
So yeah, one solution would certainly be for Sprint to develop their network so it isn't full of holes! The other is for them to just keep doing what they are doing: selling service to people they can't serve and then terminating them by sending a letter as if the customer is doing something wrong by roaming!
Mike
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Great reply. Has nothing to do with the thread and if you have been paying attention at all to what Sprint is in the process of doing to their network, you would restate your post.
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Actually, I even listened to the press conference. It has everything to do with this thread though. Even if people are deliberately roaming, that usually only happens when their service is very poor. I get horrible data speeds in the area that I work, even outside, despite Sprint's coverage map showing I should have good 3G coverage.
Hopefully they will fix things, but I'm just not very confident they will.
Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
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The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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Actually, finally a post that is to the point and it is very relevant to this thread! It doesn't sound like the OP is knowingly using roam control or a Verizon PRL. In that case, here we have a person who went to a Sprint store and they set up a phone and service for this customer. When you do that, the customer has a reasonable expectation of actually getting the service they signed up for! Sprint has your address when you sign up. They know where you live. So IMO, the onus is on Sprint for looking at the customer's address, finding that on a coverage map, and advising that they cannot properly serve this customer.
So yeah, one solution would certainly be for Sprint to develop their network so it isn't full of holes! The other is for them to just keep doing what they are doing: selling service to people they can't serve and then terminating them by sending a letter as if the customer is doing something wrong by roaming!
Mike
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Actually, I even listened to the press conference. It has everything to do with this thread though. Even if people are deliberately roaming, that usually only happens when their service is very poor. I get horrible data speeds in the area that I work, even outside, despite Sprint's coverage map showing I should have good 3G coverage.
Hopefully they will fix things, but I'm just not very confident they will.
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Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
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No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
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No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
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melvnx said:
Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
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How could you be pissed. Sprint should be pissed because they lost money because you hacked your phone to only use Verizon towers which cost them money. How long was it after you bought your phone to when you moved? Did you know that you were moving before you bought your phone?
You, as a consumer, has a responsibility to make sure that the service you are buying works for you the way it should. There is no way for sprint to know exactly how good the coverage is for every house. There are places where you get four bars and then walk 50 feet and get 0-1 bar. When you purchased the phone and realized that you were roaming, you should then have returned it or contacted customer service for a solution. But by ignoring the problem and blaming Sprint, you lose all credibility.
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No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
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That would be fine if there were no ETF.
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That would be fine if there were no ETF.
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Believe it or not, that's exactly what the 14 [formerly 30] day return policy is for.
Yes, it's about making sure your phone is what you want but it's more importantly for making sure the service is worth it for you.
As someone else said, Sprint [and all other carriers] cannot tell you how the service is going to act specifically for you.
They don't know where you go, they don't know the setup of your house, any large structures in the area, different terrain, etc etc etc.
Two weeks is plenty of time to determine this, and there's NO ETF in those first two weeks.
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I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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even if your phone shows ur not roaming it will on your bill and you will get kicked
what roaming? I thought sprint has free roaming?
This no longer the case?
Can you give me some info on how you changed to the verizon prl?
You can't hide that. Just like you can't hide your phone from 911. Verizon is aware of your number roaming. They will charge sprint for every minute and kilobyte you use. Since your are using verizon constantly, sprint will be charged a lot for your use. They will then, sooner rather than later, terminate your contract...and again soon. See it happen in these forums before.
Your brand new evo3d will then be without a service.
What do you expect? You can't root and bypass your way past everything. Sometimes you have to pay for stuff. Plus, sprint is the only unlimited data carrier left. If people continue to do as you are doing, and teether, etc...then that unlimited data may become limited.
OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
Mike
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OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
Mike
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The PRL the OP put into place makes his phone roam on verizon constantly. A PRL serves as a handshake between the phone and the towers. Standard PRL looks for sprint towers, and if none are present it looks for verizon. The OP seems to have installed a prl that looks for verizon towers first.
You may be right about the free roam agreement, but sprint still cancels people's service if they are abusing this. Just happened in the Evo forums. There may be a free roam agreement, but verizon won't tolerate sprint customers exclusively using their bandwidth if they are not paying for it. They will then tell sprint that so and so number needs to be cut. Then sprint will send you a letter saying your contract is to be terminated on so and so date due to excess roaming. So, theoretically, this could happen to someone who has sprint, but lives in a sprint dead zone where they have to use verizon all the time.
Do it for long enough and they will cancel your service.
Where we live is a Sprint dead zone. Occasionally we do pick up the distant Sprint tower and my service says "Sprint" but I'd say at least 75% of the time my phone is using a Verizon tower since I work at home. Never got a spanking. Of course, I guess if I changed my PRL and they noticed I'm on all sorts of different Verizon towers (even where there is good Sprint coverage), maybe then they'd raise an eyebrow? I wonder if their setup is sophisticated enough to detect that you use Verizon towers all over town as opposed to using one particular tower all the time just because you live in a fringe area. Interesting.
What we really need is not a new PRL: we need the ability to change the phone's preferences so it switches to Verizon's towers earlier. For example, switch to Verizon towers ANY time the Verizon signal is better... not just when the Sprint signal becomes so weak it drops out.
Mike
FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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Ya i got one coming myself
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FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
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Yup.. I've got one, but haven't activated it yet... It kind of sux that I have to use my in-home broadband bandwidth to get decent service from Sprint.
Another thing that sux is that when I'm out on the water (Chesapeake Bay), Verizon has solid service where Sprint's service is spotty. Sprint's PRL is also set to NOT roam on these Verizon towers, causing a battery drain like there's no tomorrow.
Looks, like I might have to start using a Verizon PRL,when going out fishing..
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I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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How are you switching PRLs? The ##PRL# EPST code doesn't seem to work for me.
Be careful with that Verizon PRL, after moths of using it, Sprint will call you and will cancel your account
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Roaming data is not unlimited. So, if you roam every once in a while and pull down your latest email or check a map, etc., you'll be fine. If you're always on roaming data and pull too much data, you will be dropped. I've heard different numbers for the limits, but there is one.
Whatever happened to the ability to force roaming? On older devices we used to be able to pick "Sprint Only" "Automatic" and "Roaming".
I would always do that when I was getting crap Sprint signal.
I switched them using qpst. I have about 7 or 8 different prls saved to my computer I switch to to see what works the best.
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In my home I get horrible 3g speeds. So bad I have to use wifi. Where I work (outside) I get terrible service and bad 3g speeds. I called Sprint about this issue and was told that area has good (not great) but good coverage. They told me to bring the phone in to have it looked at. I know its not the phone because this was the same with my Hero. I just want to know what my options are. I honestly feel like they should put a discount on my bill or give me unlimited roaming. This is a very bad problem. I drop calls like its going out of style and 3g isnt even an option. As for 4g, nothing at all. This has been going on for a while and Im really getting fed up. Any ideas?
We are all in the same boat.
As soon as we get a radio update.
Pardon my ignorance because I'm not sure how it works or what hardware you need, but the Sprint Airave signal booster is supposed to work great. A friend of mine works at Sprint and was telling me that evidently it plugs into your wireless router??? and goes for around $100 bucks but he swears that he's getting full bars throughout his entire house including the basement. Might at least help while at home...
Technically we all have free roaming. We roam for free on Verizon's network so in theory, you should never drop a call if you have either Sprint or Verizon service where you are. I know it worked that way for me on the Evo 4G and once I turned off all the roaming guard crap on the 3vo, it seems about as good as my old Evo 4G. So have you gone into Settings, Wireless, Mobile Network, and turned off the roaming notification sound and made sure you turn OFF all roaming guards?
Edit: BTW my neighbor has the Airave and it does give him 4 to 5 bars throughout his single-level 2850 sq/ft house. No problem keeping a call over there!
Mike
i have the airave and it does work great, call sprint complain about the service and they should give you one for free
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This one? Its $50 at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Sprint-Airave/dp/B0035TLZ3O
Called Sprint about this and the guy said Sprint charges a $36 activation fee for this type of unit. Also supposedly it does use your minutes on your plan, and you can pay an additional $10 a month to get unlimited minutes while connected to the Airave
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i have the airave and it does work great, call sprint complain about the service and they should give you one for free
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I've heard of a bunch of people getting free airaves for having poor signal at home. Is it true that it only works for voice, though, not 3g? I can make and receive calls ok, but the 3g and 4g signals at my house are awful. And they have been for over a year. They were bad on my OG Evo. I just would like to be able to surf the net on my phone. Or, even, tether occasionally, if we loose power to the main network. Thanks.
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This one? Its $50 at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Sprint-Airave/dp/B0035TLZ3O
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i have had the airave since it was in existance. i was actually a tester for them before they went public. the one you linked it the old model 1X. the one you want is http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20014429-85.html
it is 3G capable. all and all a way better unit. if you call up explain your situation. for me what actually got me one many yrs ago was basically the truth. told them i am in a on cal field. i need my cell to ring when i am called no tgo to voicemail. if they could not provide me a way to fix it. i simply was going elsewhere. then i was offered to test a new device. ended up being the first airave. back then device was free and 4.99 a month which i was credited every month so was essentially free to me. now on the new one it is actually free per month 0 dollars. as long as you qualify.
its sprinnnnnt
Its definitely Sprint.. my company works with Sprint, and although they havn't said it was their problem, they are asking for all reports in our buildings of radio errors (network failure, data failure, can't make calls, text's come in with timestamp 4-5 minutes before the time they came in).
I personally thought it was the 3D, b/c I had a OG the day before and everything was fine, then I get to work and can't make calls with full signal. We have the sprint antanae's throughout our building, so something is up. It seems to only effect me at work though -- which is pleasantly located beneath the jet base flight path.
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I've heard of a bunch of people getting free airaves for having poor signal at home. Is it true that it only works for voice, though, not 3g? I can make and receive calls ok, but the 3g and 4g signals at my house are awful. And they have been for over a year. They were bad on my OG Evo. I just would like to be able to surf the net on my phone. Or, even, tether occasionally, if we loose power to the main network. Thanks.
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If you get the Airvana which is the second version of the Airave, you will get 3G as well. I've had it ever since I had my first EVO. I'm in a great coverage area but for some reason, I don't get any signal in my apartment or about a 1/2 block in either direction from my apartment.
The Airave works great. Whether or not you can get one free (normally $99 + $5 per month) depends on your situation and if you convince them its the right thing to do. I had to talk to 4 supervisors and a manager before they agreed to give it to me for free.
I got an Airave for free, just dialed 611 and talked to a rep, said I had to stand by a window or go outside to avoid dropping calls. Didn't have a problem getting one, the rep agreed that would solve the issue. Works wonders in the house.
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I got an Airave for free, just dialed 611 and talked to a rep, said I had to stand by a window or go outside to avoid dropping calls. Didn't have a problem getting one, the rep agreed that would solve the issue. Works wonders in the house.
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Kinda sad that you need a airave or to go outside just to make a phone call. Did you tell sprint its 2011 ?
1. Yes there's a huge issue in terms of 3G speeds that have been going on since the Evo came out. There are more users on their network but they haven't expanded it. I took the issue so far that I was talking to people "From the Office of Dan Hesse" (Yes, I'm serious. I still have the voicemails and emails). It took them a while to go from "It might be your phone" to "OK, it's probably not your phone" to "The network in your area is crowded" to "Ok the network is overloaded everywhere". They promised me it would be fixed by May (this was going on since this past January). I used to get 1.5 Mbps 3G speeds and 15 (YES 15) Mbps 4G speeds, but now I'm lucky if I hit 500 Kbps on 3G and 4 Mbps on 4G.
And yes, they will send you an Airave. My internet bandwidth wasn't enough to support my Vonage VOIP modem and the Airave, so I put it aside. What they don't tell you is that if you don't use it for 3 months, you have to send it back or you owe them $200 (or $150, I forgot). You can always ask for it again later, but it's kind of grimy they don't tell you that. I got a surprise phone call about it. The good thing about the Airave is that after it's on your account, you can make it so that anyone can use it or you can limit it to certain phone numbers (like you and your family, for example). It does 5 calls at once tops. The BAD thing about it is that it will use your pool of minutes even if your calling a mobile number (free mobile to mobile doesn't apply).
And yes it does 3G. I HATE this about Sprint, but they're the cheapest carrier, which is why I put up with them. Also I just applied for a job with them; just waiting for the paperwork to go through on their end.
The alternative to the Airave is to download an app called Roam Control from the Market. Yeah it's like $4 but you don't need root to use it on the 3D. It lets you force roaming. But beware:
Sprint's roaming rule is this: If more than half the total minutes you use in a billing cycle are roaming minutes, for 3 months in a row, you'll get a warning letter in the mail. Do it again and they'll terminate you. Data I'm not sure, but being more expensive to them than voice, I'm gonna say don't go crazy. Also when you roam, even though it says 3G, you're on 1x.
I have thought about asking for an Airave, just havent gotten around to it. As for roaming, what people need to understand is that it really isnt free. When you roam mobile to mobile (which normally is free), eventually they start using your anytime minutes. When I had my Hero (rooted) I was able to set it to roam all the time, and I was on the phone a good 2 hours a day. Next thing I know, I had a $600 phone bill. I was told that if you use it excessively, they start to use your anytime minutes. I thought this was retarded since just about every call one makes, is to another mobile phone. I really just want them to give me unlimited roaming and Ill be set. Gonna give them a call eithher today or tomorrow and see what can be done. Airave will help me at home, but not on the road.
The Airave does have 3G but really, what's the point? It hooks to your internet router which probably has WiFi anyway so you might as well just connect via WiFi. We checked the 3G speeds on the Airave and got about 600/900. Connected to the same WiFi router, you get 17,000 and 2,000.
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Technically we all have free roaming. We roam for free on Verizon's network so in theory, you should never drop a call if you have either Sprint or Verizon service where you are. I know it worked that way for me on the Evo 4G and once I turned off all the roaming guard crap on the 3vo, it seems about as good as my old Evo 4G. So have you gone into Settings, Wireless, Mobile Network, and turned off the roaming notification sound and made sure you turn OFF all roaming guards?
Edit: BTW my neighbor has the Airave and it does give him 4 to 5 bars throughout his single-level 2850 sq/ft house. No problem keeping a call over there!
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Just a tid-bit about roaming. Yes, it's free to roam, but I sometimes get stuck between a rock and a hard place with signal where it picks up the most faint Sprint signal, which is so weak that nothing works, but enough to not roam to VZ's network. Not much you can do about that if that happens to you.
What I just got, but haven't spent much time with yet is RoamControl (paid app in market). It allows you to force roaming and works without root on the Evo 3D. Though, I do want to say word of warning that Sprint can drop you from their service all together if you abuse the roaming. Not sure what the rules are about it, but word of warning.
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Technically we all have free roaming. We roam for free on Verizon's network so in theory, you should never drop a call if you have either Sprint or Verizon service where you are. I know it worked that way for me on the Evo 4G and once I turned off all the roaming guard crap on the 3vo, it seems about as good as my old Evo 4G. So have you gone into Settings, Wireless, Mobile Network, and turned off the roaming notification sound and made sure you turn OFF all roaming guards?
Edit: BTW my neighbor has the Airave and it does give him 4 to 5 bars throughout his single-level 2850 sq/ft house. No problem keeping a call over there!
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What did you change in the settings? I've been looking to make the roaming popup go away, but I couldn't get it to go away on my OG Evo either...
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Pardon my ignorance because I'm not sure how it works or what hardware you need, but the Sprint Airave signal booster is supposed to work great. A friend of mine works at Sprint and was telling me that evidently it plugs into your wireless router??? and goes for around $100 bucks but he swears that he's getting full bars throughout his entire house including the basement. Might at least help while at home...
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The Airave broadcasts it's own CDMA signal, and connects to your internet connection to route calls. If you call Sprint and complain about coverage, they'll usually give you an Airave for free with free service. I've got one (Airvana w/3G), and it works excellent.
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BTW my neighbor has the Airave and it does give him 4 to 5 bars throughout his single-level 2850 sq/ft house. No problem keeping a call over there!
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no problem with brain cancer either i bet
Ryan00 said:
Kinda sad that you need a airave or to go outside just to make a phone call. Did you tell sprint its 2011 ?
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We get coverage in the house, but it's a low signal with the occasional dropped call. The airave assures that we don't have any dropped calls.
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Apparently they're cracking down on roaming. So be careful if you use roam control. Glad I got my Airave yesterday, according to them my roaming usage was 1000 last month, 1200 the month before that, and 1600 before that.
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Apparently they're cracking down on roaming. So be careful if you use roam control. Glad I got my Airave yesterday, according to them my roaming usage was 1000 last month, 1200 the month before that, and 1600 before that.
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their cracking down can be a bunch of crap though, i can be outside and have outstanding coverage, but god forbid i go into my local wal-mart or hoss's cause then i'm roaming in the building, lol wtf is that other then their weak arse signal.
tell them to fix there **** and you wont roam so much
Got the same call this morning, I told them maybe they should check there towers since I roam in there "best" coverage areas.
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their cracking down can be a bunch of crap though, i can be outside and have outstanding coverage, but god forbid i go into my local wal-mart or hoss's cause then i'm roaming in the building, lol wtf is that other then their weak arse signal.
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If you're wal-mart or hoss's and talking for 1200 minutes a month while in those stores, you have other problems.
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If you're wal-mart or hoss's and talking for 1200 minutes a month while in those stores, you have other problems.
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I can't roam, i keep getting a message saying that I can not be verified, by version
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lazie0402 said:
Apparently they're cracking down on roaming. So be careful if you use roam control. Glad I got my Airave yesterday, according to them my roaming usage was 1000 last month, 1200 the month before that, and 1600 before that.
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If their cracking down on roaming by calling customers telling them your using to much roaming then id say They may have an issue with their network and coverage. I myself have seen numerous times inside their coverage area that i go into roaming. All I have to do is drive a block sometimes and I show I go into roaming. All this and we have 4g here in some areas as well. But limited. The roaming issues really got bad a few months ago. In fact I thought I had seen an article on it that they lost some roaming agreement with another company that Verizon had bought out. That Sprint shared tower support with..
Maybe instead of barking at their customers for this issue they need to actually increase and fix the Network they have now to resolve the issue.
Even having said that. If you know your in roaming why the heck would you want to try and push so much data... ??? Its slower.
I have a buddy that actually WORKED for Sprint but lived outside of the "coverage" map and the seriously kicked him off of the service and canceled his contracts for using too much roaming time.
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I have a buddy that actually WORKED for Sprint but lived outside of the "coverage" map and the seriously kicked him off of the service and canceled his contracts for using too much roaming time.
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that doesn't sound too bad to me... and I'll get hella trade in value for this Evo3D. It's their fault I'm roaming constantly so they give me a way out of my contract which makes moving to another carrier that much easier.
Sounds like a **** move, but, if you can't get a good signal to get off of roaming, well, go to that other carrier.
...I've been thinking about doing this lately, wouldn't be hard...I'm roaming constantly now...but Verizon and ATT's plans completely. fncking. suck.
Can't wait until they call me on that one. Store rep actually sold me my Evo 4G a year ago saying "Don't worry. Sprint signal is really weak where you live but you can roam freely on Verizon's network." So yeah, if they don't want people to roam, they can get a real network or stop complaining: because that's how they sell their service to customers.
And as far as the Airave, it's not free... you pay at least $4.50/mo in federal fees. May not sound like a lot but it's another fee I don't need on my account due to Sprint's lame network. Plus, it's nothing more than glorified VOIP. If I wanted a cordless VOIP phone that uses my internet bandwidth, I'd pick up my Vonage line and use the cordless on that line! And get better range doing it!
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I totally agree and those numbers aren't data usage they're the minutes I've used. I still actually use my phone for voice calls quite a bit.
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If their cracking down on roaming by calling customers telling them your using to much roaming then id say They may have an issue with their network and coverage. I myself have seen numerous times inside their coverage area that i go into roaming. All I have to do is drive a block sometimes and I show I go into roaming. All this and we have 4g here in some areas as well. But limited. The roaming issues really got bad a few months ago. In fact I thought I had seen an article on it that they lost some roaming agreement with another company that Verizon had bought out. That Sprint shared tower support with..
Maybe instead of barking at their customers for this issue they need to actually increase and fix the Network they have now to resolve the issue.
Even having said that. If you know your in roaming why the heck would you want to try and push so much data... ??? Its slower.
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I'm pretty sure most plans have free nationwide roaming included.
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I'm pretty sure most plans have free nationwide roaming included.
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No, you've got it all wrong....we've got:
"Free" Nationwide Roaming and
"Unlimited" Data
....trust us, this is "a thing"
EDIT: Disclaimer - I have used over 10gb a month, going over the invisible 5gb limit, many times and never got a letter or call. Some have. However that's only beating up their own network...but roaming costs Sprint money and they won't take very much abuse(?) of that feature.
Just so you know for the everything data family atleast, the contract states that you can roam only for 800 minutes and 300 mb each month. For the data, if you go over that you may be charged .03 per kilobyte.
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Apparently they're cracking down on roaming. So be careful if you use roam control. Glad I got my Airave yesterday, according to them my roaming usage was 1000 last month, 1200 the month before that, and 1600 before that.
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their cracking down can be a bunch of crap though, i can be outside and have outstanding coverage, but god forbid i go into my local wal-mart or hoss's cause then i'm roaming in the building, lol wtf is that other then their weak arse signal.
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CheesyNutz said:
tell them to fix there **** and you wont roam so much
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Got the same call this morning, I told them maybe they should check there towers since I roam in there "best" coverage areas.
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Hate to be a grammar nazi but jesus, some people need to learn the difference between the words 'there' 'their' and 'they're' as well as the difference between 'then' and 'than'.
Rakeesh_j said:
Hate to be a grammar nazi but jesus, some people need to learn the difference between the words 'there' 'their' and 'they're' as well as the difference between 'then' and 'than'.
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Sadly I do the poor grammar as well part of the digital age I think sadly lol
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Rakeesh_j said:
Hate to be a grammar nazi but jesus, some people need to learn the difference between the words 'there' 'their' and 'they're' as well as the difference between 'then' and 'than'.
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Frankly, hanging around here is grammatical torture. You know it, I know it and I'm sure others know it...but most of 'they' do not. I typically play fast-n-loose on the internet, but, there are some things man....
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Frankly, hanging around here is grammatical torture. You know it, I know it and I'm sure others know it...but most of 'they' do not. I typically play fast-n-loose on the internet, but, there are some things man....
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Lol I know the differences between all the words listed just I know sometimes I will put the wrong one I don't know why bad habit probably i always did hate English class to damn boring
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Lol I know the differences between all the words listed just I know sometimes I will put the wrong one I don't know why bad habit probably i always did hate English class to damn boring
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Whether you meant it or not that's some Grade-A trollin' there bro.
I am currently using the 00001 PRL... which everyone seems to suggest is a bad idea. The area I live in is real **** for Sprint... Verizon rules the roost here. So, the question is, what am I risking by using this PRL?
According to sprint i have 800 roaming minutes, and 300MB of data. The minutes, I will never, ever touch. My last phone plan with T-Mo only had 700 minutes shared between my wife and I, and we never went over. In my home, I use wifi, so the only time I'd use data is if I'm out... though it is still possible I'd go over 300MB.
A lot of people seem to think Sprint will terminate your service if you roam to much. Do they charge you, or just give you the boot? I really wouldn't mind if Sprint booted me ETF-Free... I'd just switch to Verizon then. If they are going to give me a bunch of fees for roaming all the time though, this is a problem.
So.. has anyone here actually bumped heads with Sprint over this? What happened?
There's another thread here where some members complained because they got nasty grams from Sprint and a few were given notices they would be terminated in 30 days.
Another person ended up with a $700 phone bill because roaming doesn't count on things like mobile to mobile minutes and all.
I used it on the old evo last year and got a huge bill, as it wasnt covered under my $69 plan, but they let me switch to the $99 plan so I didnt have to pay
OK... thats what I needed to know. I don't mind getting canned, but I don't want a huge bill.
I have had the 00001 PRL installed for a day and data is so much faster. Tracking my usage at Sprint, I have used:
Sprint 3G data = 776,939kb
Sprint 3G roaming data = 51,466kb ( mostly from PRL 00001 usage)
I currently have unlimited usage on both. Without a doubt, I am strictly roaming on 3G data. Question is if Sprint will notify me of excessive roaming since I have unlimited usage on my contract.
**Note: It seems obvious that for some unforeseen reason, Sprint is purposely limiting our data speeds since a simple PRL file across the same 3G service towers is all that keeps us from 2mbps+ speeds. Data has been garbage since the first day on the EVO 3D; it is not a hardware issue but a carrier limitation...
I tried this PRL today and was wondering about getting charged as well. I would probably only need to use it a couple of times a month. What do you guys think, you feel that I should be fine?
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I tried this PRL today and was wondering about getting charged as well. I would probably only need to use it a couple of times a month. What do you guys think, you feel that I should be fine?
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A couple times a month is what i use it for.
Been doing it since it came out of the OG EVO.
No problems yet!
/knocks on wood
I have some questions about this:
1) what exactly does this PRL file accomplish in relation to the OTA PRL received (PRL 21081)?
2) If I have unlimited data and unlimited roaming (data and voice) will Sprint even care if I use this?
3) I go to 2 campuses for my college and 1 of them has poor service and there's a VZ tower right near by that I could use, would this PRL allow me to use this tower and get good service?
4) does this allow you to receive greater than 2MBit\sec on the Sprint PCS network?
thanks
incarceration said:
I have some questions about this:
1) what exactly does this PRL file accomplish in relation to the OTA PRL received (PRL 21081)?
2) If I have unlimited data and unlimited roaming (data and voice) will Sprint even care if I use this?
3) I go to 2 campuses for my college and 1 of them has poor service and there's a VZ tower right near by that I could use, would this PRL allow me to use this tower and get good service?
4) does this allow you to receive greater than 2MBit\sec on the Sprint PCS network?
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1. Makes your phone only use vz towers.
2. If you use it too much, yes. (not sure the amount (sprint gets charged for us using vz towers))
3. Probably.
4. No.
Lol, thanks for the itemized and quick response.
For me, the difference between using Sprint's prl and the 0001 Verizon prl is .4mb/sec on Sprint's and 2.5mb/sec on Verizon's. Pretty big difference. Just sucks that you have to worry about getting a huge bill or kicked from Sprints network for using it to much.
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I tried this but it kept saying that it couldn't verify my account when placing a call.
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I tried this but it kept saying that it couldn't verify my account when placing a call.
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I have this same problem. I've done the chat for an HLR reset but it didn't work.
I got a contract termination letter in the mail from Sprint today saying I was using too much data while roaming. I have been in contact with them since day 3 about my poor coverage (-115db) at home and work (-105db 1x!). The airwave is backordered for 4 months, so oops.
Question is: I am new to Cincinnati. I need a carrier for 3 smartphones (one in Iowa) with 5gb per month on two of them and 10gb on the third. I would like to stay under $200 per month which cuts out At&t and Verizon (reason I left Big Red). T-Mobile jumps to mind, but the Iowa phone would be left roaming all the time. Cincinnati Bell is the same. Any ideas? And no, the Iowa phone can't use the T-Mobile wifi calling, no wifi
ianoob said:
I got a contract termination letter in the mail from Sprint today saying I was using too much data while roaming. I have been in contact with them since day 3 about my poor coverage (-115db) at home and work (-105db 1x!). The airwave is backordered for 4 months, so oops.
Question is: I am new to Cincinnati. I need a carrier for 3 smartphones (one in Iowa) with 5gb per month on two of them and 10gb on the third. I would like to stay under $200 per month which cuts out At&t and Verizon (reason I left Big Red). T-Mobile jumps to mind, but the Iowa phone would be left roaming all the time. Cincinnati Bell is the same. Any ideas? And no, the Iowa phone can't use the T-Mobile wifi calling, no wifi
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If Sprint terminate that suck. the second is t mobile cause they have unlimited data but they slow down your data if u use to much. the other two u going be paying a arm and a leg....... how much data do u use, cuz i use 35GB one mouth. im still good. do you have a contract on you phones??
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If Sprint terminate that suck. the second is t mobile cause they have unlimited data but they slow down your data if u use to much. the other two u going be paying a arm and a leg....... how much data do u use, cuz i use 35GB one mouth. im still good. do you have a contract on you phones??
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No, they canceled my early termination fees about a month ago due to my complaining. They also waive them when they cancel your contract for excessive roaming so I'm double good there.
I hear very mixed things about T-Mobile, but they do have cheap plans. Got to ask a rep about their roaming limits...
were you using prl 00001?
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No, they canceled my early termination fees about a month ago due to my complaining. They also waive them when they cancel your contract for excessive roaming so I'm double good there.
I hear very mixed things about T-Mobile, but they do have cheap plans. Got to ask a rep about their roaming limits...
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I would try tmobile the other 2 will cost you a lot money with the amount of data you use, or try to go craiglist and take over a unlimited data plan for ATT , I seen a few people on my area doing, and that's what I did with ky last Verizon line, I do miss LTE tho
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1. Like the other post say "Were you using prl 00001" or any other prl besides the default one?
2.Also what plan were you on and is unlimited data roaming included in your plan?
Just wondering b/c I use prl 00001 and have Sero Premium which have unlimited data and voice roaming. I use prl 00001 with every phone I get and have been doing it for over a year now. I never get any extra charges or letters from Sprint. Yes, I do use over 300mb a month. On avg I use about 1.2 gb a month
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were you using prl 00001?
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No special PRLs, they were causing my phone to get the verizon "cannot authenticate your phone" messages. The towers at work are being upgraded and the towers for home are just crappy.
jgalan14 said:
I would try tmobile the other 2 will cost you a lot money with the amount of data you use, or try to go craiglist and take over a unlimited data plan for ATT , I seen a few people on my area doing, and that's what I did with ky last Verizon line, I do miss LTE tho
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Yeah, T-Mobile is the cheapest national left. Didn't know about taking over peoples data plans. Big Red told me that when I upgraded my Eris I would have to sign a new contract and my bill would shoot up, otherwise I never woulda dropped them.
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1. Like the other post say "Were you using prl 00001" or any other prl besides the default one?
2.Also what plan were you on and is unlimited data roaming included in your plan?
Just wondering b/c I use prl 00001 and have Sero Premium which have unlimited data and voice roaming. I use prl 00001 with every phone I get and have been doing it for over a year now. I never get any extra charges or letters from Sprint. Yes, I do use over 300mb a month. On avg I use about 1.2 gb a month
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Lucky
ianoob said:
No special PRLs, they were causing my phone to get the verizon "cannot authenticate your phone" messages. The towers at work are being upgraded and the towers for home are just crappy.
Yeah, T-Mobile is the cheapest national left. Didn't know about taking over peoples data plans. Big Red told me that when I upgraded my Eris I would have to sign a new contract and my bill would shoot up, otherwise I never woulda dropped them.
Lucky
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Verizon lied to you BTW Eris was nice LOL
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Verizon lied to you BTW Eris was nice LOL
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Loved that little phone lol. They lost a customer by telling me that, maybe they didn't want somebody who actually used their unlimited data to keep it... 8gb with my Eris probably would wind up as more with a phone that supported flash. No idea what I'd be using with the 3d since I never had a signal.
What about Boost (owned by sprint but just bought a new home)? Their website is vague, do they care if I roam?
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I would look into T-mobile. Im in Iowa. We have iWireless. its a tmobile affiliate. they get signal just about everywhere on the mississippi (east) side.
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I would look into T-mobile. Im in Iowa. We have iWireless. its a tmobile affiliate. they get signal just about everywhere on the mississippi (east) side.
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I lived in Iowa City until August, brother in law lives in Clinton and his is the phone staying there. Thanks for the reminder!
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Have you looked into US Cellular at all?
http://www.uscellular.com/coverage-map/coverage-indicator.html
I didn't know your ZIP code(s) so I couldn't check exact coverage.
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Have you looked into US Cellular at all?
http://www.uscellular.com/coverage-map/coverage-indicator.html
I didn't know your ZIP code(s) so I couldn't check exact coverage.
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Yeah, was the 1st I thought of, but they don't cover Cincinnati
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Looks like Best Buy has the Sensation for free. I'll pocket a $140 each giftcard for my 3D, or I could sell it to Gazelle for $170 or try e-bay?
Holy He!l, i'm in cincinnati too and WOW does sprint coverage SUCK BALLS. My phone is ALWAYS in roaming, switch back to sprint with 1bar, no bars, back to roaming. If i'm in the house, its always roaming. my evo 4g would hold at 1-2 bars, but the 3d is ALWAYS roaming. I had no idea i could get too-much-roaming-data. i did not change my prl, no verizon prl, no changes or tricks to it.
bummer man. now i'm all worried....
i know its not the new 3G one. im using that. I have my old samsung sprint airave 1x. iwould be willing to sell if the price is right. its like new. pm me if your interested.
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Holy He!l, i'm in cincinnati too and WOW does sprint coverage SUCK BALLS. My phone is ALWAYS in roaming, switch back to sprint with 1bar, no bars, back to roaming. If i'm in the house, its always roaming. my evo 4g would hold at 1-2 bars, but the 3d is ALWAYS roaming. I had no idea i could get too-much-roaming-data. i did not change my prl, no verizon prl, no changes or tricks to it.
bummer man. now i'm all worried....
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the fine print on the contract say's 300mb roaming data per month. if you're worried about it, download something like juice defender that will choke your data usage or set your data to wifi only whenever you're not on sprint's towers.
I just didn't care. been with sprint since june when the 3d came out. was in iowa then and they promised it would be better when i moved here. moved in august and it was worse lol. they agreed to waive my etf, i just been waiting for a deal elsewhere.
funny, they told me the same thing. i have been with sprint for 14 years, the last 10 years i was in KC and couldn't complain (except about clearwire) and they swore to me up and down cincinnati was actually better coverage, and when i got here, jesus its horrid. i guess there's a lot more "tower" sites here, but they won't listen to you about the elevation. i've called over 10 times, and there is just apparently no way to talk to anyone that has anything to do with getting messages to the actual network systems people. The problem here, cincinnati valley, is that this town is crazily hilly. strong signal down between the hills and at the hill tops but the 80% of the city that is actually ON a hill's slope gets zero signal, and its even worse on 4g. the highways are the only place with reliable service. Verizon has solid service everywhere, and t-mobile is the best national here. Cincinnati bell is amazing as they have a transmitter on every light post and telephone pole in both counties, but they have horrible roaming agreements and plans if you leave the city with any regularity.
All of us with sprint love it except for the actual coverage, which makes it embarrassing to try and show off sprints greatness. The biggest problem is Sprint doesn't seem to understand how elevation works with these 7 hills and mini-mountains and thinks its a flat city like the midwest, and just covers in downward cones from their cell transmitter sites. ATT also seems to have this problem.
In cincinnati, verizon is solid coverage, T-Mobile is awesome, better than verizon. And the stupid cinicnnati bell is the best. ATT and Sprint are retarded for not utilizing local knowledge and input with their deployment here. I'm as close to being fed up as I can without switching. I'm right on the line. now, not only am i upset and frustrated, but i'm worried about roaming data overages or termination. i just use my phone for tv, directv nfl, radio, hell, i use my phone for media more than my tv, just under 5gigs a month, which is the main reason i still don't seriously consider switching. thank god for wifi @work.
So, i'd recommend Tmobile for national, and i'm weary of cincinnati bell but maybe its ok for you. Verizon gets a lot of minor complaints where i work, and their thunderbird sucks compared to the evo 4g, but they have strong lte 4g here. stay away from AT&T.
good luck!!
----ps, anyone know how to reach actual network deployment department @ sprint??? its so easy to explain to them what the problem is and how to fix it. there's just no way to get the info to them
wlpywd said:
funny, they told me the same thing. i have been with sprint for 14 years, the last 10 years i was in KC and couldn't complain (except about clearwire) and they swore to me up and down cincinnati was actually better coverage, and when i got here, jesus its horrid. i guess there's a lot more "tower" sites here, but they won't listen to you about the elevation. i've called over 10 times, and there is just apparently no way to talk to anyone that has anything to do with getting messages to the actual network systems people. The problem here, cincinnati valley, is that this town is crazily hilly. strong signal down between the hills and at the hill tops but the 80% of the city that is actually ON a hill's slope gets zero signal, and its even worse on 4g. the highways are the only place with reliable service. Verizon has solid service everywhere, and t-mobile is the best national here. Cincinnati bell is amazing as they have a transmitter on every light post and telephone pole in both counties, but they have horrible roaming agreements and plans if you leave the city with any regularity.
All of us with sprint love it except for the actual coverage, which makes it embarrassing to try and show off sprints greatness. The biggest problem is Sprint doesn't seem to understand how elevation works with these 7 hills and mini-mountains and thinks its a flat city like the midwest, and just covers in downward cones from their cell transmitter sites. ATT also seems to have this problem.
In cincinnati, verizon is solid coverage, T-Mobile is awesome, better than verizon. And the stupid cinicnnati bell is the best. ATT and Sprint are retarded for not utilizing local knowledge and input with their deployment here. I'm as close to being fed up as I can without switching. I'm right on the line. now, not only am i upset and frustrated, but i'm worried about roaming data overages or termination. i just use my phone for tv, directv nfl, radio, hell, i use my phone for media more than my tv, just under 5gigs a month, which is the main reason i still don't seriously consider switching. thank god for wifi @work.
So, i'd recommend Tmobile for national, and i'm weary of cincinnati bell but maybe its ok for you. Verizon gets a lot of minor complaints where i work, and their thunderbird sucks compared to the evo 4g, but they have strong lte 4g here. stay away from AT&T.
good luck!!
----ps, anyone know how to reach actual network deployment department @ sprint??? its so easy to explain to them what the problem is and how to fix it. there's just no way to get the info to them
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Thanks for the input, I was contemplating Cinci Bell but their customer service sucks and I will travel back to Iowa 4-5 times a year. That and the Sensation is way better than any phones they have LOL (especially at $99). Now trying to decide if I should wait another two weeks for the Amaze since I have 30 days.
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What all do I need to do to my phone to sell it?