[Q] how to swap between recoveries - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I've been using amon Ra ever since i got into modding. However, I do like the easy to get updates from rom manager. Is there any easy way to swap between the two recoveries?
I know rom manager allows to install both the recoveries, but for each install it downloads the required files. Is there a way to make it install from the files (recovery files of both cwm and amonra) directly from the sd card instead of freshly downloading them every single time?

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[Q] Rom Manager Issue, Backup creating *.ext3.tar instead of IMG file

I been having an issue trying to create a backup using Rom manager but have not been able to create one that will allow me to recover through recovery. all backup file were being created as IMG but all recently I've noticed Cache, data and system no longer have the extension IMG, it now has extension .ext3.tar is this correct? Is there a way for me to recover using these files?
Starting with version 5, Clockworkmod Recovery uses a new (faster) file format, which uses tar. The new recovery should work with older backup files, but the old CMR won't work with newer backups.
Have you actually tried restoring one, or are you just assuming that because it's different it won't work? It should work fine, as long as you have the newer CMR currently installed. If you restored an older backup, it could have also restored an older version of CMR, which would then prevent you from restoring a newer backup.
You can update CMR from within ROM Manager, and then should be able to restore newer backups.
You can also download the CMR .img file from http://www.clockworkmod.com/recovery_images.html and install it using the fastboot utility. This thread has info on how to do that, but has links to the older version of CMR.
Thank you for replying. Looks like when i was backing up, i was using an updated backup and would try to restore with an older apk attached to the custom rom.
I just created a backup and was able to restore it without any issues. Thanks again for showing me the light
Found this thread through a Google search and just thought I'd add my 2 cents.
I used Bionic Recovery Bootstrapper to install CWM recovery (v4.0.1.5). Later, I used ROM Manager to flash the updated recovery (v5.0.2.5). Made some backups. Flashed old recovery using Bionic Recovery Bootstrapper again and tried to restore the new ext3.tar backups I made.
ROM Manager has trouble rebooting to recovery, but Bionic Recovery Bootstrapper can still reboot to the recovery, even though it was the one installed with ROM Manager.
Thanks for shedding some light on this. I am going to reinstall ROM Manager, flash new recovery, reboot to it using the reboot button of Bionic Recovery Bootstrapper app, and restore my backup!
Edit: ROM Manager doesn't have problems booting into recovery anymore (not sure what I must've been doing wrong previously) so I guess I am not even going to use Bionic Bootstrapper anymore, since ROM Manager downloads the most recent version every time.

[Q] Single CWM for most Roms?

I have been switching from Rom to Rom and using CWM to install and make backups of each Rom on my SDcard, so I have a good reference install of each to return to if and when needed.
The one thing I have been scratching my head over is why does certain Roms ie.. CM7 need a different CWM than say the Superclean or GeeWiz for installs or to make backups. Is there a single CWM that can be used for all, I just find it annoying to have to Odin back to a certain CWM to re-flash a backup copy of a Rom off my SDcard.

[Q] Bought Clockwork Mod Touch - How do I restore it?

So I installed ROM Manager and made an in-app purchase of CWM Touch.
Found out it couldn't see external SD card, so I removed it for an older non-touch CWM.
Rumor has it the latest Touch can see external SD's again, so I tried to re-install it through ROM Manager, but it's trying to charge me again.
Is there an easy way to get it back or do I have to contact the developer for that?
Go to the thread below. It has the IMG files that you can flash via mobile odin to go to a different version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28687877
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[Q] after install do i delete files on sd card

I did the ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit, install Mobile Odin Lite, SiyahKernel v2.6.14, ClockworkMod Recovery, and install CM 10.1.3.
My first root and rom install and everything works great! Battery life went from one day to three and operating quickly.
Do I keep the files on my sd card or can i delete them?
For future installs and upgrades, is CWM recovery my primary means of install?
Thanks guys for your hard work. I really appreciate all you do and plan on donating to the cause.
Dave
dave042 said:
I did the ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit, install Mobile Odin Lite, SiyahKernel v2.6.14, ClockworkMod Recovery, and install CM 10.1.3.
My first root and rom install and everything works great! Battery life went from one day to three and operating quickly.
Do I keep the files on my sd card or can i delete them?
For future installs and upgrades, is CWM recovery my primary means of install?
Thanks guys for your hard work. I really appreciate all you do and plan on donating to the cause.
Dave
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"on my sd card"? You meant external uSD card or internal memory?
Either way, you can delete them if you won't ever need them again.
From this point on, any flashable zip file will be run using CwMR
Welcome @dave042,
-and congrats on a successful first root/ROM experience.
regarding the "files on the sd card", If we're ignoring the expansion slot, then there are files that apps use on the internal SD, so I wouldn't go deleting them at random. I'm sure that a google search will help you with which folders are needed, and which are not.
All future firmware installs should indeed happen from CWM recovery. Once you're rooted and kernel'd, there isn't any need for mobile ODIN. The options offered in CWM recovery are superior.
As you try new things, I do advise that you do some cleanup inbetween ROMS. Dirty flashes often lead to issues that people blame on the rom or kernel. factory resets only catch a portion of the critters. @mrcook has a few rom wipe scripts specifically for the i777 that have helped multiple people (myself included) out of weird phone issues that were the result of old-rom-junk not playing well with new-rom-junk.
Happy flashing
-Cyril
thanks votinh and Cyril for the quick response.
the SD card i was referring to was the external SD. i don't plan on installing too many roms but will make sure to do a complete wipe prior to any install.
was this process of installing ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit, install Mobile Odin Lite, SiyahKernel v2.6.14, ClockworkMod Recovery, to get me to root? and once to root, to install a rom?
another question, kernal and rom updates, are they independent of each other? can i update one without the other?
i understand roms are numerous and customized, what about the kernal? does changing the kernal make any significant changes to the operating system?
Gneerally on this device ROMS will come packaged with their own kernel. The kernel will be flashed when the rom is flashed. I do believe however that most install AJK after they flash their roms.
You can delete everything off your sd card. I do keep a known good rom as well as a copy of Siyah 4.3.3 kernel on my card at all times. You never know when something is going to mess with your phone, and you may have to re install a rom in order to make you phone function again. I would hate to be somewhere, my phone start a boot loop, and I am stuck without a phone. The Siyah 4.3.3 kernel comes in handy for me. Some roms will give you an error 7 when flashing. Rather than messing with editing the build prop I just flash Siyah, and try my rom again.
If you go flashing kernels make sure you have the proper kernel for your ROM.
@dave042: "was this process of installing ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit, install Mobile Odin Lite, SiyahKernel v2.6.14, ClockworkMod Recovery, to get me to root? and once to root, to install a rom?"
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ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit <-- tool to establish root-access to the device (framaroot is another useful, easy rooting tool for the i777)
Mobile Odin Lite <-- tool that uses root-access to install...
SiyahKernel vX.X.X <-- a custom kernel (one of many) installed primarily to provide cwm recovery, but are also commonly used to:
-provide additional functionality to the existing ROM
-backup your ROM install
-install a different ROM
-install a different kernel
-flash cleanup scripts
-and many many other things
As Butchr stated, the ROMs are usually packaged with their own kernels, so the kernel used above only remains in place until another ROM is flashed, which will overwrite the existing recovery with one specifically designed for the ROM flashed.

[Q] Problems Installing Recovery!!

Hey,
So I just bought a new Colors X-Factor X26 wave today. The rooting process was very easy as I successfully rooted it with Kingo ROOT.
Now I want to use the in2ext script to increase the internal memory of the phone, however there is no recovery installed on the phone
I tried using ROM Manager for installing CWM Recovery but it was not supported..
So, Is there any method to install CWM or any other custom recovery on my phone. BTW, there was no pre-installed recovery
Or, I could even use help on any other ways to increase the internal memory.
Cheers..
TAOprajjwal said:
Hey,
So I just bought a new Colors X-Factor X26 wave today. The rooting process was very easy as I successfully rooted it with Kingo ROOT.
Now I want to use the in2ext script to increase the internal memory of the phone, however there is no recovery installed on the phone
I tried using ROM Manager for installing CWM Recovery but it was not supported..
So, Is there any method to install CWM or any other custom recovery on my phone. BTW, there was no pre-installed recovery
Or, I could even use help on any other ways to increase the internal memory.
Cheers..
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You can try mtk droid tool to make cwm recovery for you device ....
If you uncomfortable with this then you have to copy paste scripts manually and need to set required permission to copied files as described in updater script of that mod
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