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Just got off phone with Motorola and they confirmed the Photon has a LTE chip installed! I called sprint and they said it didn't. Somebodies lying, my bet is sprint.
My guess is that the Motorola rep is confusing that for 4G in general. I highly doubt the Photon has LTE.
Now, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if it does, but I imagine that would have been in the FCC certification.
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I bet Motorola is lying... Because they want you to buy their product.
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I highly doubt this, but my buddy works at the mobile division in Libertyville IL (My town! Woot woot Google! ) and he works on the development of the LED flash for all the phones cameras. Im sure he will have insight about this, ill post back what he says.
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
I doubt they would have added an expensive piece of hardware just for the heck of it. The fact that it isn't touted as a feature to"future proof" the phone leads me to assume it isn't there.
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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The hole in that thought is the matrix is on ATT(GSM) which is different from VZW in more ways then one.
The VZW references is due to the you can roam in VZW and a possible launch of the phone on VZW.
It seems that this phone has a lot of Q's surronding the radio freq's it uses so we are going to need to find a good tear down and look to that for answers.
Ok so in case people didn't know, LTE uses sim cards for the 4G. But it can't be in the photon, sprint wont have it for some time.
My buddy at Motorola replied to me "wimax". So I guess its not LTE ready and that moto rep is misunderstanding that sprints 4g is different. After all, this is the first moto android phone on sprint
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Amen to that
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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All I can say is the Photon is Built like a brick shi%house
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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If that's the case why aren't you on Verizon?
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period. There is no argument here, find it for yourself. Sprint will have LTE but not for awhile, as for the Photon working on it, who knows, but I am damn sure that it is capable of it. If you are asking a Sprint Rep any questions about a phone, 97.38782% of them don't know much about them, yes there are a few who actually do their homework on each and every phone they come across but that is few and far between. ( And in case you work at Sprint and you are reading this, don't take it personal, I'm just saying that most reps sell phones, they don't study them and know them inside and out) As for Motorola, who knows, it all depends on who you talk to, but I would believe one of them over a random Sprint rep who 'sells' phones for a living, being that Motorola actually built the thing.
But all you really need to do is plug it in and look for yourself.
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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Now that is interesting indeed
It just might have a LTE radio. Maybe Sprint's plans are starting to show up in current and future phones? Here is an excerpt:
If Sprint were to tap into Clearwire’s LTE network it wouldn’t gain any additional coverage beyond its current 4G footprint. It would gain additional capacity, but it would come at a price. Since Clearwire’s LTE wouldn’t even cover existing WiMAX markets completely, Sprint will need to deploy dual-mode WiMAX and LTE devices. That’s already a tall order for device makers, but Clearwire is using an unpaired spectrum configuration for LTE, meaning Sprint will need LTE chips not only for Clearwire’s 2.5 GHz frequencies but in a time-division duplexing (TDD) mode that no other operator uses in the U.S.
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You can read the whole article here: http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/sprints-4g-predicament-0823/index.html
Maybe Sprint actually has a 4g plan?
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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There may be some logic to this from Moto perspective...
It 4g and it a world phone...it suports cdma and gsm...
But is it also the first "4g" "world phone"? having both wimax and LTE ?(you got the sim like verzion LTE phones need)
So for Moto one hardward build for all world markets...and would also make it one hell of a development phone for google android to test everything on
Would the EVO 3d and Samsung Galaxy 2 people crap if true....
A phone with all these radios cdma, gsm, wimax and LTE would be hacker heaven
Who knows could be source of unlocked 4g issues that just the Photon seem to have ... that bootstrap has an extra radio to set up
===One other thing I recall Sprints Touch pro 2 "world phone" was not certified for GSM by FCC for US so radios were not listed on FCC doc...but it had them
Other thing in all the Photon "tear down" ive seen...ive never seen the chips because of how the lable sits in the battey compartment covers the chips...you would need to destroy the phone to see
I've tried searching but haven't quite got a concrete answer but is it possible to flash the 3D to Verizon?
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I've tried searching but haven't quite got a concrete answer but is it possible to flash the 3D to Verizon?
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As far as I know not the Sprint Version as far as the gsm Evo 3d I don't know. The radio's don't work and I don't think even if they did Verizon would allow it like the little guys do (coughs boost cough) Even so the Boost network is Sprint's that they pay to use. I do know that Verizon PRL works on our phone but it counts as roaming and sprint will give you the boot for using it too much. I only use it when I visit my father as it's the only way I can get a signal and use it SPARINGLY until the wife and I drive home.
No, you can not.
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I've tried searching but haven't quite got a concrete answer but is it possible to flash the 3D to Verizon?
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I think technically speaking, the CDMA EVO 3D will operate on Verizon's 3G frequencies. WiMAX will not work through a Verizon account.
In order to get the device to operate mainly on Verizon and be registered to a Verizon account would be another story and process .. not sure Verizon would support or faciliate this process, let alone allow.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the responses. Looks like I will jus get a new phone lol =)
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No worries, if you're getting a new phone w/ Verizon I'd say sell your Evo3D for about 250-300 on ebay/craigslist and then wait for the Galaxy Nexus.
Or the Rezound.
Or the RAZR.
Some nice phones are comin' out on VZW this coming quarter...
AND they just updated their data tier plans; doubled every plan's data for the same amount of moolah.
I want to start by saying I work for Verizon wireless tech support so trust me I know I made the right choice. I just want to thank all of the devs for their hard work but my time here has ended. I have just received my Samsung Epic 4g Touch which blows dust on the X2 in every way. Why?.. For sure to get official ICS update, 1gig of ram with 16gig internal memory, bigger better display(4.52), cheaper plans and unlimited data usage with great 4g coverage. I only paid $79 including phone and wireless bluetooth earbuds and unlocked bl!! Screen is gorgeous and super fast!! You can get the same deal at letstalk.com.. If you decide to go through letstalk.com then pm me to get the $25 off and $25 credit for me!!
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X2 for sale.. $200?
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Sprint service sucks where I am in NC. I never lose service on Verizon though. I have unlimited data also.
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Sprint service sucks where I am in NC. I never lose service on Verizon though. I have unlimited data also.
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You have unlimited data right now.. but not for long.. trust me. Sprint has jus recently put 4g towers in my area(augusta, ga) which is on par with Verizon so why not save $50 a month!! Verizon does have excellent service but Sprint is catching up fast!! My contract doesn't end til january so if sprint let's me down I have 30 days to send it back and cancel service..
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I have unlimited data with Verizon and will keep it since I have been with them so long it was grandfathered in. But I have to admit Verizon is pissing me off with the bootloader and giving people crap about why we activate our phones so much. They know we are sbfing the damn thing.
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I have unlimited data with Verizon and will keep it since I have been with them so long it was grandfathered in. But I have to admit Verizon is pissing me off with the bootloader and giving people crap about why we activate our phones so much. They know we are sbfing the damn thing.
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I am beyond pissed!!
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If it wasnt for the fact they treat me so well at the local verizon store...i would switch also. But im also in nc...eastern to be exact and when I had sprint the service was horrible..but again that was a few years back as well.
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Wait...you work for verizon?? Wasnt you who called me and asked why I kept reactivating my phone was it??? Lol
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Wait...you work for verizon?? Wasnt you who called me and asked why I kept reactivating my phone was it??? Lol
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I live in the western portion of North Carolina and Sprint service here is terrible. When I had Sprint, while in town where service was supposed to be "best" my calls would drop like crazy. I could go into a store and service would go away completely. I had the same issue with AT&T. By far Verizon has the better network in my area. It's sad that we cannot get our BL unlocked but I remain hopeful. As per price, VZW is costly but people keep paying them so I'm sure they don't plan to change that anytime soon.
I used to work as a Verizon tech support agent with Verizon Online DSL which sucked hard. I had nothing to do with the phones, unfortunately. But yeah, I have been considering moving to sprint, but, alas, the Verizon Galaxy Nexus is just beyond the horizon for me. I must have it. I will soon leave this phone and forum and enjoy the freedom of an unlocked bootloader like I once had with my Samsung Fascinate. Oh how I miss that phone. But oh well. Its GNex for me.
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Around here, unless you live in a bigger city Sprint in Northern Indiana has really no coverage. Hell where I'm at Verizon barely has any, either. But then again neither does the Death Star or any other carrier. This area is a black hole for cellular signal. Although VZW is a little more costly as far as coverage you can't beat it. Now hardware on the other hand...
The other reason I left Sprint was because when I was married and the wife went on vacation to Maine several times a year Sprint had no coverage. Imagine my surprise when they tell me that I have an $800 bill because the signal was bouncing off Canadian towers. Granted from where her father lived I could throw a stone and hit Canada,she was still on US soil. Hence the other reason i switched
Sprint was the first carrier I ever had. The reception sucked and I had horrible service. I since moved through carriers and settled in with Verizon since I rarely go through patches where I lose service.
I too still receive the unlimited data since having the plan for so long. I have some friends and family who remain on Sprint and honestly, all I hear them do is complain. Perhaps they're chronic complainers, I don't know or perhaps its the area they use the phone in, but I don't hear many good things despite being in a fairly metropolitan area.
I also receive a 25% discount on the plan and accessories so that helps keep me a loyal customer. If they get rid of unlimited data, I'd possibly consider but so far Verizon seems to be the better of the two evils for me.
Im no legal wizard but I firmly believe if they changed all of us who are grandfathered in it would be breach of contract. We renewed our contracts and they decide to change it? Not only would I go elsewhere but id tell them where to shove their early termination fee. At $250 per month Id better be getting unlimited!
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Im no legal wizard but I firmly believe if they changed all of us who are grandfathered in it would be breach of contract. We renewed our contracts and they decide to change it? Not only would I go elsewhere but id tell them where to shove their early termination fee. At $250 per month Id better be getting unlimited!
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Doubtful that it would be breach of contract because they reserve the right to adjust as necessary. They litter their contracts with jargon and other nonsense so normal people have no interest to actually read it word for word and simply put their trust in them.
They simply adjust what needs to be adjusted and use whatever clause is in the contract that states they can make changes as necessary for the betterment of the network and its users. Even if that means throttling the highest data usage customers.
Chances are though they wouldn't out right get rid of it and force us all onto limited data contracts. They'd completely do away with it if they wanted and when it came time for renewing the contract, it simply would not be an option. I wouldn't worry about this happening though.
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If it wasnt for the fact they treat me so well at the local verizon store...i would switch also. But im also in nc...eastern to be exact and when I had sprint the service was horrible..but again that was a few years back as well.
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I just got back from the Morehead city Verizon store. Fixing the awnings that blew off during the hurricane this summer.
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Well it looks like thats the one ill be using...I forgot the one here in New Bern closed.....grrrrr
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Well it looks like thats the one ill be using...I forgot the one here in New Bern closed.....grrrrr
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The employees there are great! They gave me a free case and 3 pack of screen protectors. Its funny there are 2 Verizon stores on hwy 70 in Morehead within a few miles of each other.
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I want to start by saying I work for Verizon wireless tech support so trust me I know I made the right choice. I just want to thank all of the devs for their hard work but my time here has ended. I have just received my Samsung Epic 4g Touch which blows dust on the X2 in every way. Why?.. For sure to get official ICS update, 1gig of ram with 16gig internal memory, bigger better display(4.52), cheaper plans and unlimited data usage with great 4g coverage. I only paid $79 including phone and wireless bluetooth earbuds and unlocked bl!! Screen is gorgeous and super fast!! You can get the same deal at letstalk.com.. If you decide to go through letstalk.com then pm me to get the $25 off and $25 credit for me!!
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Flamebeats is not opening/answering my private message. Why???
So, looking to upgrade and kick Sprint to the curb after 12 years with Nextel, and Ting is looking like a really fine service as far as four line family plans go. I'm kicking around my HTC Hero, (CM7, gonna try ICS Beta for it's last huzzah.) and was looking for a more powerful Android. Was thinking about getting a feature phone or a mifi, and complementing it with a Galaxy Player. But the Photon looks really, really nice all of a sudden, with 4G and GSM compatibility. Toss in the best specs on a month-to-month phone that I've seen, I'm seriously considering dropping $550 on this thing. Please talk me out of it?
I don't know if you are in the states, but US gsm towers are blocked.
Edit: The photon is featured in their front page, and it gives incorrect/conflicting information about the phone.
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^ Yeah, I know that. Kinda hoping that might be unblocked by the time I'm interested in it, if I want to jump to T-Mobile in the future. I know it's a long shot, but it would be nice to have.
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I don't know if you are in the states, but US gsm towers are blocked.
Edit: The photon is featured in their front page, and it gives incorrect/conflicting information about the phone.
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talking about the awesome 1.2ghz cpu we have?
i sent them numerous emails about it :/ lady was real nice but kept claiming they had fixed it
Seriously? Probably should have caught that earlier with all the looking up I did on the phone.
Just get Ting are you in Canada?
Stateside. And with the Photon kinda being oversold on the Ting website, and not that great a bump from the Conquer, dual core nonwithstanding, I'm still a little confuzled on what I want.
How future-proof would you say this thing is, regarding still being competitive in the next couple years? Tend to run them until they dead or unserviceable, and if blow a massive chunk of my tax return, might as well make it last a while.
Experience with Ting thus far...
Hi all,
I recently changed carriers from AT&T (using Motorola Atrix 4G) to Ting (Motorola Photon 4G) and I have recently unlocked the bootloader (yes, I lost 4G connectivity), rooted, and installed the latest version of Rocko ROM with Alien Theme.
Everything has worked out so far and I am having a good experience with the device and with Ting Mobile, from their no wait phone service policy, to their dashboard web interface. I can't really speak to the relative degree of future proofing the Photon may have compared to other phones, I am just happy that I could get away from paying so much for a similar tier of service at AT&T and not necessarily have to compromise on a phone, though not being able to use GSM towers with a prepaid SIM card is a bummer, but otherwise, so far so good. Take care all.
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Stateside. And with the Photon kinda being oversold on the Ting website, and not that great a bump from the Conquer, dual core nonwithstanding, I'm still a little confuzled on what I want.
How future-proof would you say this thing is, regarding still being competitive in the next couple years? Tend to run them until they dead or unserviceable, and if blow a massive chunk of my tax return, might as well make it last a while.
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No phone is future proof the way things are flowing manufacturers are cracking phones out of their ass every 3 months or so. You have to look at the development threads that will tell you how active the phone is on the developers on xda are and that should give you an insight on how worth it is.
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Thanks all. Think I'm gonna go with the Optimus for now and wait for my laptop to start losing to the newer phones before I drop big money. Should kick the crap out of my Hero, and I'm happy if it can run Peggle and Netflix when it comes down to it. Thanks all.
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TING??? just checked them out, no thank you, $6 a month just for my phone being active?????......hog wash
Never heard of Ting until this post. Does anyone have a system dump of a ting photon?
There's something interesting in that system dump I believe.
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Never heard of Ting until this post. Does anyone have a system dump of a ting photon?
There's something interesting in that system dump I believe.
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Sprint MVNO no different flashfile
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TING??? just checked them out, no thank you, $6 a month just for my phone being active?????......hog wash
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Thy are legit
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Sprint MVNO no different flashfile
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I disagree. Just because it's a mobile virtual network operator doesn't mean the the files are the same. On the contrary, I'd bet anyone using one of these device could confirm their notification bar and lock screen show Ting as the carrier, not sprint, which means at a minimum the framework-res/eri.xml has been edited, meaning it's not the same file despite being on "technically" the same network.
I'd like to see a system dump of one of these. I think there are magic elves locked inside
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I disagree. Just because it's a mobile virtual network operator doesn't mean the the files are the same. On the contrary, I'd bet anyone using one of these device could confirm their notification bar and lock screen show Ting as the carrier, not sprint, which means at a minimum the framework-res/eri.xml has been edited, meaning it's not the same file despite being on "technically" the same network.
I'd like to see a system dump of one of these. I think there are magic elves locked inside
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They are running the same sbf as sprint
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They are running the same sbf as sprint
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Yep, looks that way. I spoke to a ting "tech specialist" who confirmed they use a carrier forced profile for network services
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Thy are legit
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what?? i'm not saying they aren't. i'm saying that it a waste of money, to pay them $6 a month plus whatever it costs to not have unlimited anything to have a phone, plus they're a sprint child company like boost mobile and virgin mobile, so your better off just staying with sprint to begin with
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Yep, looks that way. I spoke to a ting "tech specialist" who confirmed they use a carrier forced profile for network services
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lol I was the one that told you that ;P
So following in VZW footsteps, At&t now has shared data plans as well.
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So following in VZW footsteps, At&t now has shared data plans as well.
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I don't think this really deserved its own thread... There is an off topic thread for a reason.
Not trying to be an ass or anything also, I'm sure most of us already knew this
Yep, difference is that they allow you to upgrade and keep your grandfathered plans (at least for now).
Just saw the commercial.
Well, looks like ill be going to sprint when my contract is over...
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Well, looks like ill be going to sprint when my contract is over...
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Idk man. The unlimited 4G at T-Mobile looks nice when mine's up. Although, I'm trying to be hopeful that it will somehow encourage Verizon to rethink their stance because in terms of coverage in my area, no one comes close.
If you want to keep your unlimited plan just don't upgrade through Verizon. You can usually buy the newer phones on their networks for around $200 - $300 on eBay, swappa, craigslist, or amazon. Just pick up whatever phone you want and walk into Verizon and request a sim for the phone or have then program it.
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Idk man. The unlimited 4G at T-Mobile looks nice when mine's up. Although, I'm trying to be hopeful that it will somehow encourage Verizon to rethink their stance because in terms of coverage in my area, no one comes close.
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I thought about that to but doesn't T-Mobile throttle you after like 500mb though and force you on 3g or 2g for the remainder of the month? I think sprint is the only one that won't cut you off. For me if Verizon forces me off unlimited I think I'll stay cause nobody else has as good of service but sprint might be tempting.
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I thought about that to but doesn't T-Mobile throttle you after like 500mb though and force you on 3g or 2g for the remainder of the month? I think sprint is the only one that won't cut you off. For me if Verizon forces me off unlimited I think I'll stay cause nobody else has as good of service but sprint might be tempting.
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The new plan going live on the 5th is being advertised as truly unlimited. No caps or throttling:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/21/t-mobile-leak-suggests-truly-unlimited-4g-data-add-on-launchin/
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I thought about that to but doesn't T-Mobile throttle you after like 500mb though and force you on 3g or 2g for the remainder of the month? I think sprint is the only one that won't cut you off. For me if Verizon forces me off unlimited I think I'll stay cause nobody else has as good of service but sprint might be tempting.
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Sprint can't throttle you because if they slowed it down any more, it wouldnt even load the play store. It already took long enough to do that when I had sprint. I loved sprints customer service but their data network is awful, not to mention it will take them forever to roll out 4g. Verizon might cost more per month but it's worth it. Sprint has unlimited because their 3g is so slow you can't use a lot of data and their WiMAX is almost nonexistent unless you live in huge cities. Just warning you guys.
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Sprint can't throttle you because if they slowed it down any more, it wouldnt even load the play store. It already took long enough to do that when I had sprint. I loved sprints customer service but their data network is awful, not to mention it will take them forever to roll out 4g. Verizon might cost more per month but it's worth it. Sprint has unlimited because their 3g is so slow you can't use a lot of data and their WiMAX is almost nonexistent unless you live in huge cities. Just warning you guys.
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Stamp. So damn true about Sprint... Verizon is second worst on 3g though, to be fair. GSM has always trumped CDMA in the 3g department in my experience.
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The new plan going live on the 5th is being advertised as truly unlimited. No caps or throttling:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/21/t-mobile-leak-suggests-truly-unlimited-4g-data-add-on-launchin/
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Yea looks good but their 4g isn't that good or as fast as lte and they won't have lte for a while and their service isn't great especially in my area. But in the next 5 years when everyone has lte it will be good to see them really compete for customers.
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Bonus is you can take the Rezound over to Tmo. They always have better android phones than vzw half the time anyway.
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AshtonTS said:
I don't think this really deserved its own thread... There is an off topic thread for a reason.
Not trying to be an ass or anything also, I'm sure most of us already knew this
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Is this not the general discussion board? Is this not a general discussion? For ****s sake...
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Is this not the general discussion board? Is this not a general discussion? For ****s sake...
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Yea looks good but their 4g isn't that good or as fast as lte and they won't have lte for a while and their service isn't great especially in my area. But in the next 5 years when everyone has lte it will be good to see them really compete for customers.
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Yeah they are behind. I have a long time on my contract though, so who knows by then.
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Stamp. So damn true about Sprint... Verizon is second worst on 3g though, to be fair. GSM has always trumped CDMA in the 3g department in my experience.
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I never had a phone on att that worked worth a damn (iPhone back when I didn't know how truely evil apple was) on 3g but I have seen others on att do well on 3g. But 3g works well for me on Verizon. I use it all the time since it doesn't hog battery like 4g which is great in my area. But when I'm running a speestest on 3g with my buddy and his HTC evo 3d next to me and I pull almost 2.0mbps down and 1 up and he barely pulls a .5 down and .1 up with his 400ms ping, Verizon's 3g is the **** lol. But you are right att 3g is better, their 4g is garbage through. Everyone i know barely pulls 7-8 down on att 4g while I'm flying by them at 40mbps while streaming Pandora in the background
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Yea I mean if atts service didn't literally make me mad, I would still use them just for the phones.. Verizon's is the only one I've had that I actually notice how good it is. The phones and the lock down aren't that great that ¦~\ but service is first and foremost. Plus on LTE I've never had lower than 11 down and 2 up (its usually over 15 and under 40 up, with over 5 down) and I've been across states down south in 4G areas... ATT and TMO and Sprint don't compare in places Ive been down here. Plus my 3G speeds are as fast and their 4G pretty often and that's unacceptable to me.
Pitty there isn't unlimited anymore and some gooder phones lulz
platinumrims said:
Pitty there isn't unlimited anymore and some gooder phones lulz
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We can thank the bastards that have usenet accounts and use 50-100+gb per month for that one. It really is useless, they probably just have one for the sole purpose of racking up as much data as possible.
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Evocm7 said:
We can thank the bastards that have usenet accounts and use 50-100+gb per month for that one. It really is useless, they probably just have one for the sole purpose of racking up as much data as possible.
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I don't really think that's the reason... But I'm sure they considered that as well... I think it's because they own so much spectrum that they can increase the price of whatever they want and people will pay for it... Plus ATT started the teird data garbage. Verizon followed a year later... Then Verizon started the share plan garbage.. now ATT has followed that. It's all about money. Data used to be a lot cheaper once upon a time, but not as good persay.. Personally I think they should still have unlimited 4G and capped 3G or vice versa... Idk though... Meh it is what it is.