So, looking to upgrade and kick Sprint to the curb after 12 years with Nextel, and Ting is looking like a really fine service as far as four line family plans go. I'm kicking around my HTC Hero, (CM7, gonna try ICS Beta for it's last huzzah.) and was looking for a more powerful Android. Was thinking about getting a feature phone or a mifi, and complementing it with a Galaxy Player. But the Photon looks really, really nice all of a sudden, with 4G and GSM compatibility. Toss in the best specs on a month-to-month phone that I've seen, I'm seriously considering dropping $550 on this thing. Please talk me out of it?
I don't know if you are in the states, but US gsm towers are blocked.
Edit: The photon is featured in their front page, and it gives incorrect/conflicting information about the phone.
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^ Yeah, I know that. Kinda hoping that might be unblocked by the time I'm interested in it, if I want to jump to T-Mobile in the future. I know it's a long shot, but it would be nice to have.
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I don't know if you are in the states, but US gsm towers are blocked.
Edit: The photon is featured in their front page, and it gives incorrect/conflicting information about the phone.
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talking about the awesome 1.2ghz cpu we have?
i sent them numerous emails about it :/ lady was real nice but kept claiming they had fixed it
Seriously? Probably should have caught that earlier with all the looking up I did on the phone.
Just get Ting are you in Canada?
Stateside. And with the Photon kinda being oversold on the Ting website, and not that great a bump from the Conquer, dual core nonwithstanding, I'm still a little confuzled on what I want.
How future-proof would you say this thing is, regarding still being competitive in the next couple years? Tend to run them until they dead or unserviceable, and if blow a massive chunk of my tax return, might as well make it last a while.
Experience with Ting thus far...
Hi all,
I recently changed carriers from AT&T (using Motorola Atrix 4G) to Ting (Motorola Photon 4G) and I have recently unlocked the bootloader (yes, I lost 4G connectivity), rooted, and installed the latest version of Rocko ROM with Alien Theme.
Everything has worked out so far and I am having a good experience with the device and with Ting Mobile, from their no wait phone service policy, to their dashboard web interface. I can't really speak to the relative degree of future proofing the Photon may have compared to other phones, I am just happy that I could get away from paying so much for a similar tier of service at AT&T and not necessarily have to compromise on a phone, though not being able to use GSM towers with a prepaid SIM card is a bummer, but otherwise, so far so good. Take care all.
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Stateside. And with the Photon kinda being oversold on the Ting website, and not that great a bump from the Conquer, dual core nonwithstanding, I'm still a little confuzled on what I want.
How future-proof would you say this thing is, regarding still being competitive in the next couple years? Tend to run them until they dead or unserviceable, and if blow a massive chunk of my tax return, might as well make it last a while.
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No phone is future proof the way things are flowing manufacturers are cracking phones out of their ass every 3 months or so. You have to look at the development threads that will tell you how active the phone is on the developers on xda are and that should give you an insight on how worth it is.
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Thanks all. Think I'm gonna go with the Optimus for now and wait for my laptop to start losing to the newer phones before I drop big money. Should kick the crap out of my Hero, and I'm happy if it can run Peggle and Netflix when it comes down to it. Thanks all.
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TING??? just checked them out, no thank you, $6 a month just for my phone being active?????......hog wash
Never heard of Ting until this post. Does anyone have a system dump of a ting photon?
There's something interesting in that system dump I believe.
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Never heard of Ting until this post. Does anyone have a system dump of a ting photon?
There's something interesting in that system dump I believe.
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Sprint MVNO no different flashfile
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TING??? just checked them out, no thank you, $6 a month just for my phone being active?????......hog wash
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Thy are legit
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Sprint MVNO no different flashfile
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I disagree. Just because it's a mobile virtual network operator doesn't mean the the files are the same. On the contrary, I'd bet anyone using one of these device could confirm their notification bar and lock screen show Ting as the carrier, not sprint, which means at a minimum the framework-res/eri.xml has been edited, meaning it's not the same file despite being on "technically" the same network.
I'd like to see a system dump of one of these. I think there are magic elves locked inside
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I disagree. Just because it's a mobile virtual network operator doesn't mean the the files are the same. On the contrary, I'd bet anyone using one of these device could confirm their notification bar and lock screen show Ting as the carrier, not sprint, which means at a minimum the framework-res/eri.xml has been edited, meaning it's not the same file despite being on "technically" the same network.
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They are running the same sbf as sprint
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They are running the same sbf as sprint
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Yep, looks that way. I spoke to a ting "tech specialist" who confirmed they use a carrier forced profile for network services
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Thy are legit
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what?? i'm not saying they aren't. i'm saying that it a waste of money, to pay them $6 a month plus whatever it costs to not have unlimited anything to have a phone, plus they're a sprint child company like boost mobile and virgin mobile, so your better off just staying with sprint to begin with
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Yep, looks that way. I spoke to a ting "tech specialist" who confirmed they use a carrier forced profile for network services
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lol I was the one that told you that ;P
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Ok, totally nervous and anxious noob here. I had a question about the capabilities of the modem in this phone. My coworker has a captivate, and he told me all about the stuff you do here, and how he upgraded his modem to 4g. Is the vzw variant capable of the same? I've been reading the threads for a few weeks now, trying to figure out what to get, and now I'm just confused with the whole process, but that's a topic for another day.
Thanks.
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Not. . . . . . . . . . . .
No.
The captivate can do HSPA which is all of the sudden be marketed as 4G (as HSPA+) but only up to the device limit of 7M.
That is one of ATT/TMO's ways of saying 4G.
VZN is using LTE which is different from their current CDMA#K which means phones can not take advantage of it.
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Yeah, no. The "4G" he is talking about is not really 4G. It's a fake 4G.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-thunderbolt-4g-speed-test/
but wait......i thought if you put 4g icons in your theme....then it unlocked that super secret lte radio that came with the fascinate!?!?!
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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Its not really 4G, the phone works fine and as intended. If you want 4g, then go get a 4g phone from verizon(who has the best 4g network at the moment, forget ATT's crap)
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Hahahah, this. +1
HSPA and LTE are different tech, just like CDMA#k and HSPA. HSPA has the same speed capability as LTE but the drasticly different delivery mechanism makes it a loser for these kind of tests.
LTE is the true future tech even though it doesn't meet 4G guidelines. Future HSPA evolutions are just going to be like new and improved satellite TDMA systems.... larger pipe for more terminals... but dont ldt ths customer know how many terminals there are.
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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If I had my choice, I would've gone with AT&T for numerous reasons, but given my circumstance, VZW was my only option. Big Red has a track record of making things difficult for the end user (like upgrading phones). I love this phone, and the service is good, but it's a bit discouraging that I'll have to wait 2 years to get a faster phone when this one has capable hardware being held back by them.
Sorry for the rant. Basically, I'm anxiously awaiting the day when I can cut the bloat and let this thing fly. Keep up the awesome work, and I'll keep reading until I get all the pieces together.
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The captivate doesn't do 4g..the guy just has a theme that changed his icon to show 4g when he still has 3g. And neither phone has the hardware to run 4g.
At&t has **** for service...hence the REAL reason iPhone is with vzw now. I will never pay for at&t again.
Just got off phone with Motorola and they confirmed the Photon has a LTE chip installed! I called sprint and they said it didn't. Somebodies lying, my bet is sprint.
My guess is that the Motorola rep is confusing that for 4G in general. I highly doubt the Photon has LTE.
Now, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if it does, but I imagine that would have been in the FCC certification.
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I bet Motorola is lying... Because they want you to buy their product.
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I highly doubt this, but my buddy works at the mobile division in Libertyville IL (My town! Woot woot Google! ) and he works on the development of the LED flash for all the phones cameras. Im sure he will have insight about this, ill post back what he says.
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
I doubt they would have added an expensive piece of hardware just for the heck of it. The fact that it isn't touted as a feature to"future proof" the phone leads me to assume it isn't there.
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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The hole in that thought is the matrix is on ATT(GSM) which is different from VZW in more ways then one.
The VZW references is due to the you can roam in VZW and a possible launch of the phone on VZW.
It seems that this phone has a lot of Q's surronding the radio freq's it uses so we are going to need to find a good tear down and look to that for answers.
Ok so in case people didn't know, LTE uses sim cards for the 4G. But it can't be in the photon, sprint wont have it for some time.
My buddy at Motorola replied to me "wimax". So I guess its not LTE ready and that moto rep is misunderstanding that sprints 4g is different. After all, this is the first moto android phone on sprint
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Amen to that
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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All I can say is the Photon is Built like a brick shi%house
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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If that's the case why aren't you on Verizon?
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period. There is no argument here, find it for yourself. Sprint will have LTE but not for awhile, as for the Photon working on it, who knows, but I am damn sure that it is capable of it. If you are asking a Sprint Rep any questions about a phone, 97.38782% of them don't know much about them, yes there are a few who actually do their homework on each and every phone they come across but that is few and far between. ( And in case you work at Sprint and you are reading this, don't take it personal, I'm just saying that most reps sell phones, they don't study them and know them inside and out) As for Motorola, who knows, it all depends on who you talk to, but I would believe one of them over a random Sprint rep who 'sells' phones for a living, being that Motorola actually built the thing.
But all you really need to do is plug it in and look for yourself.
-DJ
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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Now that is interesting indeed
It just might have a LTE radio. Maybe Sprint's plans are starting to show up in current and future phones? Here is an excerpt:
If Sprint were to tap into Clearwire’s LTE network it wouldn’t gain any additional coverage beyond its current 4G footprint. It would gain additional capacity, but it would come at a price. Since Clearwire’s LTE wouldn’t even cover existing WiMAX markets completely, Sprint will need to deploy dual-mode WiMAX and LTE devices. That’s already a tall order for device makers, but Clearwire is using an unpaired spectrum configuration for LTE, meaning Sprint will need LTE chips not only for Clearwire’s 2.5 GHz frequencies but in a time-division duplexing (TDD) mode that no other operator uses in the U.S.
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You can read the whole article here: http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/sprints-4g-predicament-0823/index.html
Maybe Sprint actually has a 4g plan?
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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There may be some logic to this from Moto perspective...
It 4g and it a world phone...it suports cdma and gsm...
But is it also the first "4g" "world phone"? having both wimax and LTE ?(you got the sim like verzion LTE phones need)
So for Moto one hardward build for all world markets...and would also make it one hell of a development phone for google android to test everything on
Would the EVO 3d and Samsung Galaxy 2 people crap if true....
A phone with all these radios cdma, gsm, wimax and LTE would be hacker heaven
Who knows could be source of unlocked 4g issues that just the Photon seem to have ... that bootstrap has an extra radio to set up
===One other thing I recall Sprints Touch pro 2 "world phone" was not certified for GSM by FCC for US so radios were not listed on FCC doc...but it had them
Other thing in all the Photon "tear down" ive seen...ive never seen the chips because of how the lable sits in the battey compartment covers the chips...you would need to destroy the phone to see
So its time for me to jump ship and move to a new carrier (Moved away and sprints service here is even worse then were I was) I'm not getting calls for job call backs which is hurting me a lot. So I will be switching to T-Mobile or Verizon. Never will go back to AT&T.
I love this phone though. I was a Evo 4G owner before EVO 3D. What phone would be best suited for me that is currently out, or coming out in the future for either carrier? Must be VERY powerful (I like saying I have one of the most powerful smartphones in available) And it needs to have a huge XDA base. I'm a flashaholic... (Pretty much rules out samsung...
You picked the 2 best carriers...
Verizon - Galaxy Nexus
There should be a lot of ROM's, cyanogenmod support should be quick, and the bootloader will be unlockable right after you get it. This is probably the choice that I would go with since the galaxy nexus is a google phone, the XDA base will be the largest, etc. etc. The Galaxy Nexus will be google's and verizon's flagship phone.
T-Mobile - One of the Sensation phones
I don't know which one has the largest XDA base, but I think all sensation phones are the same software wise (so it might just be one section). The sensation is also the flagship tmobile phone. I think the sensation has a great developer base since there is already ICS source ROM available.
Definitely the Sensation or Amaze 4G. Just one glance to he Sensation forums should give you an idea how big it is. It's at least twice as big than here.
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Hm. I'll be going with the Galaxy Nexus when it comes out then.
Never had the nexus, or nexus S so it looks good to me.
If there's good Verizon service down there, why not just switch PRLs?
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If there's good Verizon service down there, why not just switch PRLs?
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-Because if you go over around 700,000 MB they can terminate you
-Roaming drains battery on the Evo 3D
-You shouldn't even be doing that
-etc.
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-Because if you go over around 700,000 MB they can terminate you
-Roaming drains battery on the Evo 3D
-You shouldn't even be doing that
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I dont think you mean MB
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-Because if you go over around 700,000 MB they can terminate you
-Roaming drains battery on the Evo 3D
-You shouldn't even be doing that
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If he's already switching, them possibly terminating his account isn't going to matter much. Besides, he'll save some money in the meantime
As for battery drain, I don't recall anyone running 11115 complaining about anything like that
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If he's already switching, them possibly terminating his account isn't going to matter much. Besides, he'll save some money in the meantime
As for battery drain, I don't recall anyone running 11115 complaining about anything like that
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True, if he wants to get terminated he actually should use that PRL and stream videos/download movies/etc.
Roaming heats up my phone and drains battery but maybe the same effect isn't present on the PRL.
I will be paying the early termination fee to sprint.
If you go with Verizon, the HTC Rezound is the most comparable to the E3D, with a faster processor and a better screen (but minus the 3D camera, of course).
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I will be paying the early termination fee to sprint.
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I think if you move and don't have service, they might let you out of the fees. Nextel did that for me around 10 years ago without me even asking.
Rob the plumber said:
I think if you move and don't have service, they might let you out of the fees. Nextel did that for me around 10 years ago without me even asking.
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Yeah, go ahead and carefully look at the terms if service allows this. All carriers used to do it. Tmobile doesn't anymore for sure. I'm guessing sprint will be the same, that if you move into an area that has bad service that clause in the contract is null. It is worth a look, because if you signed the version of the contract that allows cancellation after moving to a bad service area you have the right to not pay etf.
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I will be paying the early termination fee to sprint.
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Like I said, just switch PRLs. You'll either get Verizon like signal, or Sprint will cancel for you, and you won't have to pay the early termination fee
If I HAD to go another carrier I probably would go the galaxy nexus of course. If you like what HTC is doing then the Rezound is the perfect choice
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I will be paying the early termination fee to sprint.
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Thank you
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Yeah, go ahead and carefully look at the terms if service allows this. All carriers used to do it. Tmobile doesn't anymore for sure. I'm guessing sprint will be the same, that if you move into an area that has bad service that clause in the contract is null. It is worth a look, because if you signed the version of the contract that allows cancellation after moving to a bad service area you have the right to not pay etf.
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Thank you for giving helpful info same goes to the other poster. also and to the dbags telling him to skrew sprint over cause he moved get out of here. He is being a honest and a mature adult which I think is awesome as its hard to find a decent person.
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Like I said, just switch PRLs. You'll either get Verizon like signal, or Sprint will cancel for you, and you won't have to pay the early termination fee
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Such bad advice.
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Thank you for giving helpful info same goes to the other poster. also and to the dbags telling him to skrew sprint over cause he moved get out of here. He is being a honest and a mature adult which I think is awesome as its hard to find a decent person.
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Such bad advice.
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It was obvious he's a man of principle, and I can sincerely respect that. There are still a few good people left out there. He is honest, and willing to pay his dues. It was about the only useful thing I could post, given his principles, I hope he doesn't have to pay the etf but the fact that he is willing speaks volumes
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It was obvious he's a man of principle, and I can sincerely respect that. There are still a few good people left out there. He is honest, and willing to pay his dues. It was about the only useful thing I could post, given his principles, I hope he doesn't have to pay the etf but the fact that he is willing speaks volumes
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+1
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First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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Hmm, so what will be next? They must have a big plan. I can't wait for some news.
Sounds like definitely plan to start making their own phones. Come on Motorola nexus!!!!!!
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I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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You would be absoutly correct, Google and Larry Page could care less about Motorola or a cell phone. What they do care about is the 6000 (or is it 16,000?) patents that Motorola owns! Right now, Apple is sueing everyone for infringements, thats getting read to change real fast!!!
I dont know if you guys know this, Motorola was around L-O-N-G before Sammy, HTC, Apple, Noika, all of them. They held all these patents but never really enforced them for whatever reason. If you remember, Apple went after Motorola with its Lawyer Goons with this Paten crap. I guess Motorola did not have the balls to fight, but Larry Page has bigger Goons! F**k, motorola has patent on the old bag phone of the late 80's! So if they every come back........
Correct - this is all about now owning patents.
Means little or nothing about current phones.
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Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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lol
by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
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First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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i couldn't agree with you more. i am really looking forward to having ics... either by update of by unlocked bootloader and flashing cm9
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
yeah
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by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
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yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
redninja007 said:
yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Boost?
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yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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I guess that could be real possible. If I remember right they use Sprint's towers.
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!
I hope I'm wrong but I really doubt this will affect prior devices like the Photon, Atrix, etc.
I can imagine future devices having prompt updates, perhaps vanilla android, but seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
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Expecting ICS sooner is unrealistic. Expecting unlocked bootloaders for existing phones so we can do it ourselves is another matter entirely.
As far as carrier approval goes, remember that there's a fundamental difference culturally between Motorola and Google. Motorola wouldn't even contemplate releasing an unlocker unless the carriers demanded and paid for it. Google will have its lawyers read the sales & maintenance contract it has with the carriers, and do it anyway as long as there's no clause in that contract explicitly prohibiting them from doing it.
In practical terms, that probably means Sprint and T-Mobile will have official unlockers within weeks, and AT&T & Verizon will never get them. However, I'll bet there will be some VERY interesting tidbits of info in the Sprint unlockers that might prove useful to someone at XDA trying to write one for a Verizon phone... ;-)
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Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
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as long add they unlock my bootloader so i can have a blurless ics rom i think id be pretty dang happy at least until jellybean comes out lol
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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tnx for the info... im going to look into it i still have 6 months before my contract with sprint will end.so i still have a lot of time to figure this out
So following in VZW footsteps, At&t now has shared data plans as well.
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merlin66676 said:
So following in VZW footsteps, At&t now has shared data plans as well.
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I don't think this really deserved its own thread... There is an off topic thread for a reason.
Not trying to be an ass or anything also, I'm sure most of us already knew this
Yep, difference is that they allow you to upgrade and keep your grandfathered plans (at least for now).
Just saw the commercial.
Well, looks like ill be going to sprint when my contract is over...
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chrisjz said:
Well, looks like ill be going to sprint when my contract is over...
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Idk man. The unlimited 4G at T-Mobile looks nice when mine's up. Although, I'm trying to be hopeful that it will somehow encourage Verizon to rethink their stance because in terms of coverage in my area, no one comes close.
If you want to keep your unlimited plan just don't upgrade through Verizon. You can usually buy the newer phones on their networks for around $200 - $300 on eBay, swappa, craigslist, or amazon. Just pick up whatever phone you want and walk into Verizon and request a sim for the phone or have then program it.
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dogswind said:
Idk man. The unlimited 4G at T-Mobile looks nice when mine's up. Although, I'm trying to be hopeful that it will somehow encourage Verizon to rethink their stance because in terms of coverage in my area, no one comes close.
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I thought about that to but doesn't T-Mobile throttle you after like 500mb though and force you on 3g or 2g for the remainder of the month? I think sprint is the only one that won't cut you off. For me if Verizon forces me off unlimited I think I'll stay cause nobody else has as good of service but sprint might be tempting.
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LakerStar25 said:
I thought about that to but doesn't T-Mobile throttle you after like 500mb though and force you on 3g or 2g for the remainder of the month? I think sprint is the only one that won't cut you off. For me if Verizon forces me off unlimited I think I'll stay cause nobody else has as good of service but sprint might be tempting.
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The new plan going live on the 5th is being advertised as truly unlimited. No caps or throttling:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/21/t-mobile-leak-suggests-truly-unlimited-4g-data-add-on-launchin/
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I thought about that to but doesn't T-Mobile throttle you after like 500mb though and force you on 3g or 2g for the remainder of the month? I think sprint is the only one that won't cut you off. For me if Verizon forces me off unlimited I think I'll stay cause nobody else has as good of service but sprint might be tempting.
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Sprint can't throttle you because if they slowed it down any more, it wouldnt even load the play store. It already took long enough to do that when I had sprint. I loved sprints customer service but their data network is awful, not to mention it will take them forever to roll out 4g. Verizon might cost more per month but it's worth it. Sprint has unlimited because their 3g is so slow you can't use a lot of data and their WiMAX is almost nonexistent unless you live in huge cities. Just warning you guys.
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Evocm7 said:
Sprint can't throttle you because if they slowed it down any more, it wouldnt even load the play store. It already took long enough to do that when I had sprint. I loved sprints customer service but their data network is awful, not to mention it will take them forever to roll out 4g. Verizon might cost more per month but it's worth it. Sprint has unlimited because their 3g is so slow you can't use a lot of data and their WiMAX is almost nonexistent unless you live in huge cities. Just warning you guys.
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Stamp. So damn true about Sprint... Verizon is second worst on 3g though, to be fair. GSM has always trumped CDMA in the 3g department in my experience.
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The new plan going live on the 5th is being advertised as truly unlimited. No caps or throttling:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/21/t-mobile-leak-suggests-truly-unlimited-4g-data-add-on-launchin/
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Yea looks good but their 4g isn't that good or as fast as lte and they won't have lte for a while and their service isn't great especially in my area. But in the next 5 years when everyone has lte it will be good to see them really compete for customers.
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Bonus is you can take the Rezound over to Tmo. They always have better android phones than vzw half the time anyway.
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AshtonTS said:
I don't think this really deserved its own thread... There is an off topic thread for a reason.
Not trying to be an ass or anything also, I'm sure most of us already knew this
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Is this not the general discussion board? Is this not a general discussion? For ****s sake...
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Phaded said:
Is this not the general discussion board? Is this not a general discussion? For ****s sake...
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Last I checked, I'm allowed to share my opinion without being called out
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LakerStar25 said:
Yea looks good but their 4g isn't that good or as fast as lte and they won't have lte for a while and their service isn't great especially in my area. But in the next 5 years when everyone has lte it will be good to see them really compete for customers.
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Yeah they are behind. I have a long time on my contract though, so who knows by then.
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Stamp. So damn true about Sprint... Verizon is second worst on 3g though, to be fair. GSM has always trumped CDMA in the 3g department in my experience.
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I never had a phone on att that worked worth a damn (iPhone back when I didn't know how truely evil apple was) on 3g but I have seen others on att do well on 3g. But 3g works well for me on Verizon. I use it all the time since it doesn't hog battery like 4g which is great in my area. But when I'm running a speestest on 3g with my buddy and his HTC evo 3d next to me and I pull almost 2.0mbps down and 1 up and he barely pulls a .5 down and .1 up with his 400ms ping, Verizon's 3g is the **** lol. But you are right att 3g is better, their 4g is garbage through. Everyone i know barely pulls 7-8 down on att 4g while I'm flying by them at 40mbps while streaming Pandora in the background
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Yea I mean if atts service didn't literally make me mad, I would still use them just for the phones.. Verizon's is the only one I've had that I actually notice how good it is. The phones and the lock down aren't that great that ¦~\ but service is first and foremost. Plus on LTE I've never had lower than 11 down and 2 up (its usually over 15 and under 40 up, with over 5 down) and I've been across states down south in 4G areas... ATT and TMO and Sprint don't compare in places Ive been down here. Plus my 3G speeds are as fast and their 4G pretty often and that's unacceptable to me.
Pitty there isn't unlimited anymore and some gooder phones lulz
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Pitty there isn't unlimited anymore and some gooder phones lulz
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We can thank the bastards that have usenet accounts and use 50-100+gb per month for that one. It really is useless, they probably just have one for the sole purpose of racking up as much data as possible.
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Evocm7 said:
We can thank the bastards that have usenet accounts and use 50-100+gb per month for that one. It really is useless, they probably just have one for the sole purpose of racking up as much data as possible.
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I don't really think that's the reason... But I'm sure they considered that as well... I think it's because they own so much spectrum that they can increase the price of whatever they want and people will pay for it... Plus ATT started the teird data garbage. Verizon followed a year later... Then Verizon started the share plan garbage.. now ATT has followed that. It's all about money. Data used to be a lot cheaper once upon a time, but not as good persay.. Personally I think they should still have unlimited 4G and capped 3G or vice versa... Idk though... Meh it is what it is.