I have tried everything. I tried various ROM's, SpeedMod kernels T27, T29, T32, and T39, and the stock ROM, and NOTHING is working! I cleared out my Dalvik and cache partitions obviously, and I caliberated the battery. Nothing is working!
I used the phone for 8 hours today, and the battery dropped to 50% in those 8 hours. I had the display on for 1 hour and 30 minutes, browsing Tapatalk and the internet. I made no phone calls at all. Besides that I listened to music for 45 minutes, but that's it. The rest of the time it was on standby in my pocket. This is running Lite'ning ROM v6.1 and Speedmod Kernal T39. However, no matter what combination of kernels and roms I try, the drain is pretty similar.
I have the stock android weather and news app set to update every 3 hours, and K9 Mail to fetch new mail every 15 minutes.
This is with Wi-Fi off, GPS off, and bluetooth off.
What could be affecting my battery so much? Is there any information I should post here from my phone so you guys could see what is causing this? I can't even use my phone for one day without the battery completely draining.
Well, you problaby already knew this, but the real life-sucker in the SGS II is definately it's screen. Get the brightness down low and make the screen timeout after 15 seconds so that you don't waste any unecessarily battery.
Can't help to much otherwise, just got my SGS II a week ago, still getting to know it myself. But hope that helps abit anyway.
There may be other apps synching in background. In my case fluent news trend to hang around. Check if every app is doing background work.
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I can assure you mine is worse, drops to 50% in 6-7 hours, but as the other person has stated, the screen is the culprit, when I used the phone longer than you, I would expect worse battery life.
Gosh how I wish this phone was equipped with more energy-efficient, less bling bling screen. SAMOLED+ is only good for show-off, which I usually don't do.
Theres an app called betterbatterystats on the xda forum. Use that and see whats draining your battery, especially in the wakeloks department.
Updated Facebook? It's raping batteries so hard it should be on the 6 o'clock news tomorrow night. Or, you know, pretty much anything these guys say here.
Try to use Betterbatterystats and see partial wakelocks and cpu spy to see if you have any problem with deep sleep! Also take a look to battery usage and the percentage of Operating System Android
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Try to use Betterbatterystats and see partial wakelocks and cpu spy to see if you have any problem with deep sleep! Also take a look to battery usage and the percentage of Operating System Android
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I'll post pics of both things here. Where does android save screen captures so I can upload them?
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NaawB said:
Well, you problaby already knew this, but the real life-sucker in the SGS II is definately it's screen. Get the brightness down low
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i definitely agree with this. i unticked the auto adjust brightness, and i set the screen brightness to the lowest value at all times (it's super amoled anyway, the screen is still visible even at the lowest settings).
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Updated Facebook? It's raping batteries so hard it should be on the 6 o'clock news tomorrow night. Or, you know, pretty much anything these guys say here.
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Make sure you sign out of facebook chat. I had a funny feeling that the chat was keeping my phone awake. Turned the chat off and I have had excellent battery life since.
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First of all I think you are wrong when you say OLED uses more power than LCD. Remember how these screens work, LCD lets light go through and is completely back-lit all the time while OLED screens emit light from pixels that are not black.
On the other hand, the real problem with SGS2, in my opinion, is the reason phone never goes to sleep. If you take a look at screenshot I attached you'll see that screen on my phone was not on all the time but battery drain continued. Also, "awake" bar is full meaning phone never got the chance to go to sleep.
I have no clue how to fix this, maybe someone with more experience can help. I use to have HTC Hero on which I could turn off "Always on" in network settings and get phone to sleep often and save battery that way.
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Make sure you sign out of facebook chat. I had a funny feeling that the chat was keeping my phone awake. Turned the chat off and I have had excellent battery life since.
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How do I sign out of it?
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Open up the facebook app, press on 'News' at the top left of the screen (to go to the facebook app main menu), press Chat.
At the chat screen, press the menu button on your phone, and select log out.
If you ever accidentally go into chat again it will log you back in. Just remember to always log out again. Do not use the back/cancel to get out of the chat screen.
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Log out from..latitude...facebook..skype...
Data off.....
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First of all I think you are wrong when you say OLED uses more power than LCD. Remember how these screens work, LCD lets light go through and is completely back-lit all the time while OLED screens emit light from pixels that are not black.
On the other hand, the real problem with SGS2, in my opinion, is the reason phone never goes to sleep. If you take a look at screenshot I attached you'll see that screen on my phone was not on all the time but battery drain continued. Also, "awake" bar is full meaning phone never got the chance to go to sleep.
I have no clue how to fix this, maybe someone with more experience can help. I use to have HTC Hero on which I could turn off "Always on" in network settings and get phone to sleep often and save battery that way.
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Download better battery stat from xda forum. There you can see what keeps your phone awake.
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ComradeNF said:
I have tried everything. I tried various ROM's, SpeedMod kernels T27, T29, T32, and T39, and the stock ROM, and NOTHING is working! I cleared out my Dalvik and cache partitions obviously, and I caliberated the battery. Nothing is working!
I used the phone for 8 hours today, and the battery dropped to 50% in those 8 hours. I had the display on for 1 hour and 30 minutes, browsing Tapatalk and the internet. I made no phone calls at all. Besides that I listened to music for 45 minutes, but that's it. The rest of the time it was on standby in my pocket. This is running Lite'ning ROM v6.1 and Speedmod Kernal T39. However, no matter what combination of kernels and roms I try, the drain is pretty similar.
I have the stock android weather and news app set to update every 3 hours, and K9 Mail to fetch new mail every 15 minutes.
This is with Wi-Fi off, GPS off, and bluetooth off.
What could be affecting my battery so much? Is there any information I should post here from my phone so you guys could see what is causing this? I can't even use my phone for one day without the battery completely draining.
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Display drain about 1% every 4 minutes of browsing, this is in your case 22,5% .
Every 15 min email checking and the automatic update checking from other apps does the rest. There is nothing suspicious with your battery drain.
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Bad apps?
I've had bad battery drain for the last week.
I've rooted, romed, unrooted, changed every setting I could. Nothing has really worked. I'm was losing between 5-10% an hour.
Then I just wiped everything and re-installed the stock 2.3.3 firmware and started re-installing apps an hour at a time.
Battery burn was going good about 1% an hour installing about 5 apps in an hour until I installed TM World Clock.
Within an hour I had a 10% battery decrease and Watchdog saying that Event/0 and Suspend were consuming the 90% of the CPU. I uninstalled...it went back to a 1% and hour battery drain for 3 hours.
Re-installed TW World Clock to see it was a fluke. Within 10 min. the phone dropped 2%. and Watchdog started sending warnings for Event/0 and Suspend again.
There might be certain apps that aren't allowing the Galaxy S2 to go into a deep sleep...explaining why the problem is so random among different owners pending on installed apps.
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I know battery has been diacussed before but i think this isnt normal. I left the office with almost full charge, listened to music on the.way with bluetoith headset for an hour. Got home and browsed for like half an hour. And here is my battery.
3 hours and the phone is almost dead. I have no apps running. I had 3g on when i left the officw and at home i used wifi.
Is this normal or should i take the.phone back for an exchange?
Regardless, i still love the phone.
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RETURN ZE PHONE
get a new shiny in exchange
btw when u return the phone what do u say exactly
Thats ridiculous man. Maybe you're battery is broken.
That said mine has just drained 35% in 3 hours with almost no usage so maybe it is just the phone.
I think there is 100% guaranteed a software problem and we need samsung to fix it.
It says you've had the display on for quite a long time, music needs the display on? Also that wifi sharing is another culprit.
It drained because you had the screen on nearly the entire time not because anything else
Unless thats a case of the 'phone staying awake' bug. You can freeze wifi sharing with titanium backup to save some juice
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I too am facing the same issue battery drain from 100% to 60% in a span of 3 hours.
I am having a mediocre usage of battery with touchdown as my mail client talking to my corporate exchange. Still it doesn't warrant a drain of 40% in 3 hours.
I dont have much apps installed. Even with juice defender I am not getting better results.
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ale922 said:
Is this normal or should i take the.phone back for an exchange?
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You could say it's normal because if you haven't yet rooted and frozen the wifi sharing process this is the exact behavior everybody else is also having. A new phone will behave in exactly the same way if it's using the current firmware.
You can do two things.
1. root and freeze the process with titanium backup or similar.
2. wait for the next official samsung firmware which may include a fix.
The rooting process takes about 15 minutes and is not too difficult. You may or may not get in to warranty trouble in case of repair, but as I and several of my friends saw it, there really is no other way unless you want a phone with 3-4 hours of battery compared to the 19-23 hours we all get now after the freeze.
Another thing, it won't matter if wifi is turned on or off, the bug and wifi sharing process will still be there.
You will probably read around the net that several processes has to be frozen, but it really only is the "wifi sharing" one that needs to be frozen for the battery drain issue to go away.
What is the "wifi-sharing"?
Mine GS2 is a bit different from the OP's. Android OS occupied 45% while Display only 19%. And charging time is unusually long. Very long. I plugged my GS2 into PC at 9am with 30% left, and by the time I left work 6pm it only got up to 75% something. That's half a day charge.
The rooting process takes about 15 minutes and is not too difficult. You may or may not get in to warranty trouble in case of repair, but as I and several of my friends saw it, there really is no other way unless you want a phone with 3-4 hours of battery compared to the 19-23 hours we all get now after the freeze.
Sorry, whats the freeze. I haven't heard this before ?
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What is the "wifi-sharing"?
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I don't really know. But I haven't found a feature not working after the freeze. Even dlna sharing, hotspot etc.. Everything seems to be fine.
You can read more about the issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069295
Regarding the unusual long charge time, I haven't heard about that before. It takes my phone about 3 hours to fully charge.
I can recommend this application for monitoring if the phone really sleeps when left on the table and which processes uses your juice in general. It's history based and you will be able to figure out a lot of useful stuff with it.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/systempanellite-task-manager/nextapp.systempanel
I'm also have a similar problem, but mine was after one hour and an half of web surfing using dolphin HD and wifi... it was full, it's now about 25% remaining... Is it normal that the dolphin browser used 39% of the battery ? It's even more than the display... !
Ps: it's actually really hot on the back of the phone, on the top, just under camera... Normal ? ? ?
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whats the freeze. I haven't heard this before ?
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Well. When you have rooted your phone, you are able to do a lot of usefull stuff:
-Freeze processes
-Disable the camera shutter sound with a simple property/text file
-Make the middle home screen the real home (like htc sense) with a simple property/text file,
-Replace camera.apk and get higher quality sound in video, actually also higher video bitrate if you want that.
-Replace talk.apk and enable the upcoming google talk with video chat
-Install chainfire3d driver to be able to play tegra2 gpu based games
...and probably a lot more, but above is the only things I've done.
Freezing means : that you lock a process you don't want to run ever. You are also able to "un-freeze" if you decide to revert.
So:
1. you root your phone
2. you install titanium backup or other application that has the "freezing" ability.
3. open the freezing app, go to the process list, find "wifi sharing", press freeze, reboot
Problem solved, "wifi-sharing" will never run again.
You want to revert: Launch titanium, go to process list, find wifi sharing, unfreeze, reboot. Everything back to where you were before.
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I'm also have a similar problem, but mine was after one hour and an half of web surfing using dolphin HD and wifi... it was full, it's now about 25% remaining... Is it normal that the dolphin browser used 39% of the battery ? It's even more than the display... !
Ps: it's actually really hot on the back of the phone, on the top, just under camera... Normal ? ? ?
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I really don't think anything matters as I can see you have the wifi-sharing bug.
You must understand, that it's everybody with the current firmware that has this bug. You must either wait or root and freeze.
Sucking up your battery in a couple of hours and making the cpu run at full speed which makes the phone get hot is exactly what this wifi-sharing bug does.
There is absolutely no way you can change anything in the settings or say, not run dolphin browser to fix this problem. You simply have to freeze the process or wait for samsung to fix it. As long as the wifi-sharing process enters your battery usage list you have the firmware that has the problem (and it's more than one) and your doomed until you freeze or upgrade to a future firmware where the bug may be officially fixed.
Just another "wifi-sharing" discussion link:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
Alright then, it's just that it doesn't seem me to be that much of the battery (~20%...)
I did just freeze that process and will see once my phone is fully charged... Thanks.
Try the lite'ning rom. It is much better!
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isnt this pretty normal looking battery drain? most people on this forum are getting about 4 hours screen-on time, sometimes 4.5 hours. yours seems to have the screen on about 4 hours from your graph picture. isnt this normal? if it was all gaming usage it definitely would be normal...
@OP, You mind to mention the Screen On time please?
Regards.
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sia1996 said:
Try the lite'ning rom. It is much better!
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oh, was that a constructive comment?
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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how much screen on time do u get?
Cozzeck said:
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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khaytsus said:
I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
kimtyson said:
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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Underground_XI said:
The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!!
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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All in my sig.
I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.
Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
All your chat programs running in the back ground prevent your device to sleep correctly, they wake it up every time they check if there is a new message.
Try to keep only the apps you use and try for each app to increase the check delay or disable it.
The antivirus does help.
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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clod007 said:
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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In my opinion the battery reaches her max in 3-4 weeks.
Download the app from the market and use it after every rom change.
I didn't called you paranoic, just that you mustn't be so worried.
My recomandation for a longer battery life is CM7.
GOOD DAY!
Read forum for more details.
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You might try 1Ghz faux kernels as well. They seemed to have helped my battery life considerably.
Chek out what apps you have running in the background and be sure you set youre network yourself (my phone was always changing from 2g to 3g and after i selected the network myself it gave me a 1day + boost .
And you shoud know that the litium polimer batteryes are affected by cold temperatures.
I wish you luck!
I did use cm7 (neutrino) and got about the same battery life span as the current rom (laytveyit), and am currently on the faux 1ghz kernel. Anyway, I will see how it performance in the weeks to come and hopefully the newer version of the rom will improve it. I thought cold temperature helps preserve the battery's life span?
EDIT: Thanks for all the advice!
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Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
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Lol all those chats are you problem imo
The "standard" apps used to figure out what's eating your batteries are:
BetterBatteryStats: for wakelocks
CpuSpy: to tell if you phone is going into deep sleep or not
Built in Battery Usage: to see a pretty graph and tell what's using the most juice
SystemTuner: I just recently started playing with this, lots of information.
Look up BetterBatteryStats here up XDA. There's plenty of threads on how to use it. Look up wakelocks.
I've had the HTC One X+ for a week now and it's a really good phone, however, the battery really lets it down. The battery drain is terrible on my phone. The phone is really good in sleep mode, only losing about 2% in 1 hour, but as soon as it's not in sleep mode, as soon as you start to use the phone, the battery drains like hell. For example, when I'm web surfing or using applications, it loses 1% like every 2 minutes and that's crazy!
I don't know why, power saver is on, switched to 2G instead of 3G, disabled Google Now, auto-sync, basically everything I think would drain the battery. Brightness is on it's minimum. I feel so restricted when using my phone! But I've read other people having really good battery life even with moderate use, so am I doing something wrong? Should I factory reset my phone? Is there something wrong with my phone? Can someone help me?
Thanks!!
Have you disabled all AT&T apps? They drain battery as hell especially ATT locker.
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Under Settings/Sounds/Ring Tone untick the three options as they just have the sensors constantly checking, then under Settings/Power untick Fastboot.
Then get a battery monitor app like GSam Battery Monitor which pinpoints the power drainer. How many apps do you have installed? Dump the ones you hardly ever use.
Also, several charge/discharge cycles are necessary before battery reaches best performance.
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I think losing 2% of battery every hour of standby is pretty bad. How many hours of screen time on do you get from a full charge to around 10%?
Sharpshooterrr said:
I think losing 2% of battery every hour of standby is pretty bad. How many hours of screen time on do you get from a full charge to around 10%?
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2% isn't bad. You crazy.
My phone's battery life is really good and keeps improving with more usage. I do not however, expect more than a few hours of gaming.
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Won't lie i got the same problem you are facing right now. The battery life is horrible, in fact it only lasts about 3-4 hours gaming if i am lucky. Before 5 minutes i opened a game called "dead trigger" my battery was 94% after 5 minutes of playing guess what? BOOM 89% straight which is extremely bad from my point of view.
You know, you do have screen with a high resolution, and you're using the max of the graphic and other chips while gaming...and that costs power...most likely NFC is active, as is BT, 4G, brightness on 200%, the loudspeaker blearing some music out of the cloud, GPS on, and 15 apps not closed properly, weather syncing every 5 secs, and 700 apps installed from Happy Santa to FakeYourPhone!
I really can't get it that you complain about it. It is a mobile smartphone that can be used to play games. If your priority lies with the latter, have a charger handy with you! Play, enjoy, and stop moaning...Period!
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Bad Battery Drain as well
I'm going to tack onto this thread. I got the HTC One X+ about a week 1/2 ago. The phone is amazing. It has everything I want, but I cannot make it through the day once without always consciously thinking about battery drain and how quickly the phone just sucks down the power. The following Battery Monitor graph is when I have JuiceDefender installed so it turns off the data radio whenever the screen is off or I'm connected to WiFi. I was on WiFi from 7:45 this morning all the way to 5:00pm. The drain on this thing is so fast. I didn't watch a single video today nor any games. This is all facebook data, internet data, and just some general playing on the phone. I also turn on the power save feature for Jelly bean so I turned off vibration feedback, brightness is turned down, and CPU saving is turned on.
Do I have a dud phone or is the One X+ really that awful on the battery? I'm strongly considering taking it back but every single other thing about the phone is great but if the battery on every One X+ is that bad I don't know if it's worth it. Please help assuage my fears or give me some advice on what I can do better.
Do you have Google now active?
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You have WiFi, lte, and I'm assuming other radios on. Curious to see what other apps you're running in the background.
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Do you have Google now active?
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I do. I kind of thought it was one of the neater parts of Jelly Bean. Is it a complete battery hog? This is my 1st android phone but I'm a long time Smartphone owner. I'm guessing by your question I should disable it and see how the battery performs.
It is an LTE phone though i'm on wifi 90% of my day. Background apps that run are usually Whatsapp, Facebook, and Linkedin. Right now I'm losing about 2% charge every 10 minutes if I'm using it. I gotta plug the thing in as much as I can just so I can use it. I'm perfectly fine with tweaking the thing, just not sure how much 'tweaking' is needed to get some better performance out of the things.
I'm wondering if Facebook is the problem... Just a thought...
The One X+ isnt that bad in terms of battery life in my experience, I've done 15.5 hours with 2.5 hours screen on time, Not sure what folks are expecting, Thats pretty average for a smartphone... That is with Wi-Fi on, LTE on, Google Now on, Autosync on, the little weather widgety clock thing on.. and pretty much me not doing anything besides closing apps when im done with it, I have Kik messanger and TextPlus on in the background but they arent doing much to my battery life... I dont use the power saver until it toggles at 15% battery life, I have vibration on, and my brightness is fixed at like 33% constantly... I have every ATT app disabled in the app thing.. I also have the "best Wi-Fi performance" thing ticked which says it might use more battery...
Yes, Gaming and watching videos on the thing is going to drain the battery out fast, Just like every smartphone I've ever owned... Its better than my GSM Nexus with the stock battery (Its roughly halfway between the stock battery and the extended one) and better than the S3 I had very briefly (However I will note the S3 couldnt keep a signal at all whereas my One X+ can...) The conversion seems to be that you trade about 2 hours standby time for 30 minutes of screen-on usage in my case
Picture 1 is me using my phone normally in a day.. 15.5 hours is more than enough (I'd say i get closer to 13 or 14 average) with 2.5 hours of screen on time
Picture 2 was me basically doing nothing but watching Youtube and playing games this morning... its really not all that bad, the biggest consumer/ battery hog for me is Mediaserver for some reason, I'm not actually 100% sure why (I know what it is...) or if i could pull even better battery life if there is something actually wrong with it and its draining my battery excessively... But I'm not complaining about it because well.. this was me abusing my phone pretty much
Not arguing that some folks are getting rubbish battery life, Because they are, I'm actually more curious as to whats causing it, There has to be something here and some way to fix it
Follow up to yesterday's battery
Ok in the attachment is my usage today. As you can see it is totally what I would expect from the phone. I got it to that point by disabling Google Now. That kind of stinks however, I can actually use my phone without being nearby an electrical outlet all the time. The other thing that works well is how much cooler it is to the touch under normal use. Normally it was quite hot. I work in a basement(3 bars with LTE) so my guess is Google Now was always trying to utilize location (even if it wasn't immediately obvious) on the screen via the indicator and thus would just kill my battery especially when I would pick it up to use it with the screen. I wish I could use Google Now but perhaps I can slowly bring back some of it's abilities and find a happy medium.
I'd also like to make note that I am still utilizing the power saving features for Jelly Bean along with JuiceDefender.
No offense but I cant read that battery thing you got. I cant see how long you used it or anything, all i can tell is your battery is at 70%...
-edit- i think i might have got it, 7h or so?
KenjiS said:
No offense but I cant read that battery thing you got. I cant see how long you used it or anything, all i can tell is your battery is at 70%...
-edit- i think i might have got it, 7h or so?
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Yeah my apologies, the timeline is on the X axis at the bottom. Unplugged at 7am, and at 2:32pm it was above 70%. Pretty drastic difference since normally the last week or so I've been hitting 70% at about 9am.
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Yeah my apologies, the timeline is on the X axis at the bottom. Unplugged at 7am, and at 2:32pm it was above 70%. Pretty drastic difference since normally the last week or so I've been hitting 70% at about 9am.
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Sounds more in line with what im getting... Though i have Google Now on... Weird.. Very weird
GSam is a bit nicer and free FYI so you might wanna give it a look
how much playback time should I be getting for 720p mp4 files? My phone drains about 10% every 20 minutes with power save on, auto sync and all wireless radios off and minimum brightness, I am quite disappointed, is this normal drain?
I had to open my big mouth, Now my One X+ has developed a little problem It wont enter Deep Sleep so yeah... now the battery life isnt terribly great
You guys might wanna check that your phone is entering deep sleep and not getting held awake by something, because now im seeing similar drain to you guys...
Very new issue though, Weird... I uninstalled an app I felt might have caused it and ill see if that fixes it, Currently recharging my One X+ to reset the counters and everything...
According to BBM, It appears to be my Wi-Fi keeping the phone awake for some reason... Next step if the uninstallation doesnt fix things will be to disable Wi-Fi and see if that changes anything