Hey guys I was Hoping someone could maybe Answer a few Questions I have about Restoring Nandroid Backups...
Ok First off I'm a Experienced Clockwork Recovery user, and because of that I guess you can say I'm kind of a Noob to Other Recoveries. Now even though Most Recoveries Do have the Same basic Functions ... I guess its the ones Not Available in Clockwork that I Need the Answers to...
I was Tempted to try TWRP for a while now, and just Yesterday finally Did! But Although its Installed I really Haven't made a Backup, or Flashed a Rom. So After going through the TWRP Recovery menu a Little, I was Curious How do you Compress a Backup? Is that a Option given After you go through the motions of making a Backup?
I'm thinking YES, but Haven't made one so figured I Ask first, seeing I'm Not sure I'll ever actually get that far!
Reason I'm saying this is because...
I have Nandroid Backups on my Sdcard which were made with Clockwork and if it Isn't Possible to Restore my Already Made Backups using TWRP, I'd Probably just go Back to Clockwork as my Default Recovery...
Anyone know if its Possible to Restore Nandroids made from Clockwork, with TWRP?
Thanx in Advance...
PMGRANDS said:
So After going through the TWRP Recovery menu a Little, I was Curious How do you Compress a Backup? Is that a Option given After you go through the motions of making a Backup?
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Yes, you're correct. Would have to create a backup first, then you'd be able to compress it.
PMGRANDS said:
Anyone know if its Possible to Restore Nandroids made from Clockwork, with TWRP?
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Great question. I hadn't ever thought of this ... but the question does make complete sense.
Short answer: Depends which version of CWM and TWRP .. some versions yes and some versions no.
Longer answer:
For starters, each recovery stores the their recovery files in separate directories and uses different "file extensions". I think they used to be compatible in the sense they both used images of the partitions. The most recent version of CWM, 5.0.2.0 is now using tar files for system and data which wouldn't be compatible with the TWRP restore process.
I think TWRP was/is using exact images of the actual partitions created with the 'dd' linux binary.
I haven't checked the TWPR or CWM in the last few months just followed updates on twitter, IRC and here. I'm sure if my information is out of date somebody will post up to correct.
Hope that helps!
On the compression is, when your in the backup screen and you see the options for you to select what u want to back up at the bottom there is a box that says compress backup and you would just select that before you begin the backup process. Compressed backups take a bit longer to complete but are worth the weight.
PdawG43 said:
On the compression is, when your in the backup screen and you see the options for you to select what u want to back up at the bottom there is a box that says compress backup and you would just select that before you begin the backup process. Compressed backups take a bit longer to complete but are worth the weight.
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Thanx for the Reply man...
Hey you wouldn't happen to know the answer to my question about Restoring a Nandroid made with Clockwork from or to TWRP would you??
Thanks Either Way Tho...
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First up high fives to the XDA developer community, to villainrom and to unlocker.com....im a noob but have mangaed to root my Oranage branded hero and am running the Aman RA 1.5.2 recovery image and villainrom v12....which both work great!!
What I want to know is what is the 'default' name for the backup image (recovery-backup?) when performing a nandroid backup through the root menu? Basically I did an initial backup from the stock rom prior to loading the villain rom, I've now got a stable version of 2.1 running and was wondering if i take another backup will it replace my previous back up ? or can i save multiples ? (i want one back up per rom?)
Is this possible ?
Cheers in advance
rtorbs said:
First up high fives to the XDA developer community, to villainrom and to unlocker.com....im a noob but have mangaed to root my Oranage branded hero and am running the Aman RA 1.5.2 recovery image and villainrom v12....which both work great!!
What I want to know is what is the 'default' name for the backup image (recovery-backup?) when performing a nandroid backup through the root menu? Basically I did an initial backup from the stock rom prior to loading the villain rom, I've now got a stable version of 2.1 running and was wondering if i take another backup will it replace my previous back up ? or can i save multiples ? (i want one back up per rom?)
Is this possible ?
Cheers in advance
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You can use a file manager like Astro to rename the back-up or just save the back-up to your pc...
ok cheers for that.....but what im trying to find out is what the recovery image defaults to...i.e its name so i know the image im looking at relates to the 'last' backup i took......Ive done another backup but cant see any files time/date stamped at the time of the backup except for 'DiskcacheIndex35089'....could this be it? or am i totally barking up the wrong tree? lol
Cheers
edit - Maybe i should have said....when using root menu to perform a nandroid backup what are the defaults for 'save location' and 'file name' of the recovery image? theres a nandroid file on my sd card...is it in there? Basically I have made two backup files using the root menu one on the stock rom and one on the villain v12 but i cant find two similar files so am struggling to work out what belongs where?
Any expansion/further explanation would be much appriciated
Cheers
Sorted it....just wasnt looking hard enough lol
I know on the thunderbolt it names it by the date/time at which you do it. It doesn't overwrite the previous one because it is a different name
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ok cheers for that.....but what im trying to find out is what the recovery image defaults to...i.e its name so i know the image im looking at relates to the 'last' backup i took......Ive done another backup but cant see any files time/date stamped at the time of the backup except for 'DiskcacheIndex35089'....could this be it? or am i totally barking up the wrong tree? lol
Cheers
edit - Maybe i should have said....when using root menu to perform a nandroid backup what are the defaults for 'save location' and 'file name' of the recovery image? theres a nandroid file on my sd card...is it in there? Basically I have made two backup files using the root menu one on the stock rom and one on the villain v12 but i cant find two similar files so am struggling to work out what belongs where?
Any expansion/further explanation would be much appriciated
Cheers
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Noob ? I just downloaded twrp when I go to recovery what should I back up there's so many options I really don't know which one to pick. Should i pick all of them and compress or some and compress .please be specific.
LOL... it depends on what youre trying to do?
Mostly, youre going to use recovery to flash zip files... kernals, roms, tweaks etc mostly come in the form of zips, so you'll see one option to install a zip file....
Another thing to do, is wipe your phone before a flash, again done with recovery...You'll go to the WIPE menu, and wipe cache, dalvik, (do it a few times to be sure) and do a data wipe before flashing ROMs, this will ensure a flawless install
Lastly you use nandroid to "backup" the current state of your phone, you do this BEFORE flashing a rom... its like a failsafe, if something F's up during your flash, you can restore this "nandroid" backup to restore you phone to its exact state prior to your flash...
So, nandroid back ups, restoring, flashing zips, and wiping are your basic uses of recovery
getmoneygreen said:
Noob ? I just downloaded twrp when I go to recovery what should I back up there's so many options I really don't know which one to pick. Should i pick all of them and compress or some and compress .please be specific.
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Stick with the ones that are already "x'd" off. The only option that I'd suggest adding is Wimax. That will back up your wimax partition, which contains your RSA keys, which are essential to 4g working (lose your RSA keys, lose your 4g forever, so it's good to keep them backed up). Compressing the backup is optional. It will save a considerable amount of space if you choose to compress them, however the backups will take quite a bit longer to complete. I made two backups that were not compressed, and saved them to my computer, because they were over 1GB each, which is absurd. I now compress all of my backups, and all seems well.
Thank you soo much you guys helped me out a lot
If you don't mind me asking, what were the original TWRP recovery options that were selected. When I did my first Nand backup after S-off and rooting I selected all the options to be safe. Then when I went to go make another back up everything was still selected and I know I do not need all those options. Thanks.
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If you don't mind me asking, what were the original TWRP recovery options that were selected. When I did my first Nand backup after S-off and rooting I selected all the options to be safe. Then when I went to go make another back up everything was still selected and I know I do not need all those options. Thanks.
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To answer your question If I'm correct from top to bottom the first two and also include the Wimax and the compress files .so that's four X's.that's what I have
I did a Nand backup having the first 3 and then Wimax and then when I tried to flash to that backup my phone went black and shut off (thought it had bricked on me) was able to get it to reboot by doing volume down + power button. Am I missing something? Or am I just being dumb when it comes to flashing from a Nand backup?
Are you still having problems with the nand back ups pdawg
So we should wipe data to factory settings before doing the back?
Also, where does titanium backup come into play?
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I haven't had time to try it again yet. Though later tonight I will try again when I flash viper rom 1.3
I checked everything under the sun in nandroid menu, so when I go to nandroid options then restore i choose the one I want to restore, it flashes then when I reboot it just sits on the HTC EVO screnn forever! almost 20 min so far. is anybody else having this issue? am I doing something wrong? I did pull the battery once and rebooted but still nothing. I backed up a couple of nice set ups I would like to have back. any ideas would be great
jajuan said:
So we should wipe data to factory settings before doing the back?
Also, where does titanium backup come into play?
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To answer your question about Titanium. This app will back up all your apps--apps only, not your entire system.
This is useful when you flash a new rom because that new rom will not include all the apps you had (obviously). Instead of fishing for each one in the market, simply re-download Titanium and use it to restore your apps (and data if you like). I really don't use Tatanium as much as I used to. This is because I don't download a crapload of apps and when I install a new rom it doesn't take me very long to re-download the ones I like from the market.
BUT, if you have an app that you can't get through the market, then Titanium is vital to restoring it.
Hope this helps.
Hey folks, I've never had a problem making a backup before. I currently have 3 backups under /sdcard/clockwordmod/backup/, ranging in size from 700m to 1.2g.
I checked my storage capacity, I have 23g remaining, so I'm pretty certain that isn't my problem.
I have Rom Manager 5.0.0.7 Premium installed, along with ClockworkMod Touch v5.8.3.4. I just installed CWM Touch tonight actually, it works perfectly fine, so I can't see that being the problem either, but that is basically my "newest" change.
Anyhow, when I select "Backup Current ROM" in ROM Manager, the device just reboots and then comes back normally without doing anything.
When I manually boot into recovery mode and select backup from that menu, it says...
SD Card space free: 24317MB
Backing up Boot image...
Error while backing up boot image!
It does however create a directory with the timestamp in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/, but it's empty.
Am I missing something here? I never really had this problem before. Thanks everyone.
Try the different recoveries out there. Primes are like people, they're more genetically diverse than other species, so another recovery might work for you.
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Try the different recoveries out there. Primes are like people, they're more genetically diverse than other species, so another recovery might work for you.
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Haha.. yeah you are right. I installed TWRP and it seems to be backing up fine right now.
I never really considered trying another recovery since CWM was all that I ever used, guess it was sort of a "comfort zone" thing.
Ah well, expanded my horizons a bit.. it just finished, awesome.
Thanks for the suggestion/advice!
CWM 5.8.3.4: The backup process is broken. You need to go back to 5.8.1.8
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CWM 5.8.3.4: The backup process is broken. You need to go back to 5.8.1.8
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Thank you for the help. Where do I find older versions of CWM? Where can I download 5.8.1.8 from?
I recently decided to try MROM (I currently have CM7) so I backed up my current ROM and installed MROM. When I tried to check if I could restore my previous ROM, ROM Manager did not list my latest backups, but instead, listed some really old backups. I checked the clockworkmod folder to see if the latest backups were there and they were. Now, for some reason, ROM Manager was looking in the emmc folder, and not the sdcard (where the latest backups were) and I don't know if there's a way to change where it looks for the backups. I changed the settings to use an external sdcard (I don't know if that would help but I tried) and it didn't help. I then booted into recovery and tried the restore option there and I was able to see my latest backups.
I'm not sure why ROM Manager was unable to see them but booting in recovery worked fine. I want to try MROM (and I know I can restore from the recovery console if I really have to) but I just want to understand why this was happening and if there was another way to restore my backups (ROM Manager saves backups in ext3.tar format and I don't know how to use that with adb).
Don't bother with rom manager. I always get rid of it on every cm rom I try. Its pointless. Your recovery works and its a better option IMO.
Thanks! I would still like to know what's going wrong though, if possible, and also if there's a way to restore a backup saved in ext3.tar format using adb.
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Thanks! I would still like to know what's going wrong though, if possible
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Hard to tell. You may never find out. ROM Manager can indeed be weird like that, and is in my opinion unreliable.
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and also if there's a way to restore a backup saved in ext3.tar format using adb.
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The backup is a regular TAR archive (as the name suggests). Most recoveries contain the tar tool which you can use to restore the backup.
cheers guys,
my GT-I9300 broke - now i got a new one. Exact same model.
I used CWM for creating backups.
Now i read, however, that i only can use the backup if I'm actually using the same version of CWM on my new phone that i also used to create the backup.
I don't know, however, with which version of CWM i created the backups.
This results in the fact, that i cant use the old backups to flash my new phone.
Does anyone know a way to find out with which CWM the Backups were being created?
Thank u all in advance,
Regards
nxy8ZMmb said:
cheers guys,
my GT-I9300 broke - now i got a new one. Exact same model.
I used CWM for creating backups.
Now i read, however, that i only can use the backup if I'm actually using the same version of CWM on my new phone that i also used to create the backup.
I don't know, however, with which version of CWM i created the backups.
This results in the fact, that i cant use the old backups to flash my new phone.
Does anyone know a way to find out with which CWM the Backups were being created?
Thank u all in advance,
Regards
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It doesn't need to be the exact same version, but there are incompatibilities between really old and newer versions. Have you actually tried to restore a backup yet?
Also, please look at the sticky threads in this section. There is one here in capital letters saying that you cannot post questions here.
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It doesn't need to be the exact same version, but there are incompatibilities between really old and newer versions. Have you actually tried to restore a backup yet?
Also, please look at the sticky threads in this section. There is one here in capital letters saying that you cannot post questions here.
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Sorry for that! Ill respect it next time.
Actually i tried.... but it doesnt seem to work, as it says in CWM "No such files found" (I was trying to copy it to the right "Backup" folder in /clockworkmod/backup - but i couldnt find the folder!?) and in Mobile Odin it doesnt work either.. Tells me something about "Partition could not be found in file"...
So its.. kinda weired!
I think it might work if I were able to copy them into the right CWM folder.. but even with root in CMs file manager i cant access it.
Thanks for the help
regards
Flash a CWM recovery make backup .
Open backup folder delete contents .
Copy your backup contents to the folder .
jje
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072374
Solved!
Thanks.