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I'm posting this here because I hope some devs might be able to get a handle on the problem. I think it has something to do with the launcher.
Since I upgraded my phone to a 2.3.4 ROM, I've had constant problems with its randomly rebooting, or occasionally just freezing. (I say "rebooting", but it always gets stuck in a boot loop, and so it might as well be frozen.) The first ROM was Synergy, but I've had the same trouble on Warm, and with three or four different kernels (OC'ed and not OC'ed) on each of those ROM's. In some configurations it's better, and in some it's worse, but I've nearly always had the reboots happen at least once a day. Sometimes it happens while charging, sometimes while it's not; sometimes it happens while I'm touching it, and sometimes when I haven't touched it in hours (kind of annoying when it's my alarm clock--I missed a meeting last week). There's not a lot of consistency in when it happens, though I should say, for the record, that I've been using Launcher Pro the whole time.
Obviously, I'm not the only one with this problem: for some, like me, it started with 2.3.4 (including, in many cases, the stock OTA); for others, it started when the phone was first released; while for others, it's never happened at all. The fact that some people haven't experienced it at all may mean hardware has something to do with it, and I even read one account of a guy who took five different phones back to Sprint for replacements before finding one that worked right.
After searching high and low, I found a thread on the Sprint Community forums that suggested editing the data.prop file to keep the launcher in memory constantly (Look here and scroll down to post #9.). I tried this a couple of days ago, and it hasn't fixed the problem, but it did dramatically reduce it: I went from rebooting every two hours to rebooting once or twice a day.
I've noticed one other interesting thing: a couple of months ago, I started playing Godville, and I've been propping the phone up next to me and letting it idle with the screen on (while on USB), so that I can glance over every once in a while to see if anything is happening in the game. I've noticed that, every few minutes, the home screen wallpaper briefly replaces the app I have open; it happens so fast that I can't tell for sure if the whole launcher is coming up, but I suspect it is. I wonder if this constant yanking of the launcher into the foreground might be the source of the instability.
my mind is like..... blowwwwn
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no but on a serious note man... many people have had problems with reboots since the launch of the 3D, which was 2.3.3 based. I doubt that was the issue (launcher, your update, your games... gnomes...)
i would say flash the RPM PGIMG86423million update whatever that number is for the bootloader update.zip, and see if that rids you from the reboots.
for me, i fixed my reboots by getting a new SD card... i had the same issue when i first got my 3D late in july. Did it both on 2.3.3 base, and 2.3.4... it occurred to me one day that a bad disk would cause system reboots... and not being able to change out the one built into the phone... i opted for the SD card because it was cheap and i wanted a better one anyways. reboots went away immediately.
it also never occurred to me initially that my SD had been bad for a long time... not just when i had my 3D.. on my previous phone (samsung moment with froyo), whenever i would move apps to the SD card, i would always get some kind of error message. trying to move them a couple times would always successfully move the app(s) to the SD card.. i figured this was a problem with the rom i was on (speaking of my samsung moment)...
then when i transferred my card to my 3D, same problem, along with the reboots, and a light clicked on in my brain and said "***k-tard, your SD card is bad. derp."
haven't had a single reboot since then. i even wonder if the paramount number of people having reboot issues on the 3D was due to HTC possibly shipping them with defective SD cards...
just something to mix around in your brain for a bit...
Yeah, I considered the SD card as a problem, but the reboots happen even when the SD card is mounted as a USB drive. Also, a bad SD card wouldn't explain why keeping the launcher in memory dramatically reduces the problem.
I'll be giving it a try.
Just a side note. I've been using the stock kernel lately and havn't had a single reeboot. I'm on synergy rom and since he put back in the stock kernel w/ no OC I've had no issues.
I may try that, but it would be sad to not to able to OC a rooted phone. I'm starting to wonder if it's a bad internal flash drive, though.
You should try a stock ROM to see if that solves your issue if that's doesn't work maybe you have defective phone
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All my problems went away when I used Senseless ROM. I think the kernel in the ROM is stock. It's been over two weeks since my phone has frozen on me and no more random reboots.
Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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I'm having the same reboot issues. I've noticed a few things:
1. Doesn't matter what sd card or how new, my phone reboots unexpectedly
2. Phone ONLY reboots RIGHT when the screen times out. Only on Android 2.3.4 w/ sense! It does not matter what kernel. Whatever I do, all reboots are directly related to sense on 2.3.4.
3. The only solution I have found is to deactivate the screen time out or gut HTC proprietary sense from the ROM.
P.s. I DO NOT have problemswith any ota based off 2.3.3
bloodrain954 said:
Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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Tiamat isn't stable for me.
MTKnife said:
Tiamat isn't stable for me.
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Nor for me. It causes daily hard lockups that require a battery pull on my phone. Tiamat exhibited this on multiple ROMs for me.
I think trying a largely stock rom is a must as a start to tracing your problem. So is incremental additions of apps, tweaks, etc. Basic debugging and defect isolation stuff.
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Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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What about bcblend by mwalt? Senseless rom has been using that for quite some time and I haven't had any issues. When it was switched to tiamat for a short time (2.5 & 2.6, i believe) I had problems with lockups and reboots. Reboots would occur when the screen timed out every once in a while.
Just curious OP - have you tried the phone on a newly installed rom without installing any side apps for a day or so and seeing if you have any problems? Back on my old nexus S 4g i had issues with a particular battery app that would give similar problems to what you are experiencing.
Tiamat has not been stable for me either. I tried many different rom and kernel combos and am still having the issue. I noticed it is mostly happeneing when the phone is plugged in. but it also happens sometimes when im on a call. So there has to be more than one issue one being the proximity sensor and i cant figure out the other ive hset charging profiles to 384max and 198 min and other low clock speeds to see if it would help. Also set a temp profile to underclock when its over 38.0 celsius. Right now im running olympus trinity xe titan i ran it for a few days with mild anthrax and it only froze/rebooted a few times a day. I tried the anthrax kernel and it rebooted twice the first half hour so i flashed tiamat last night. Im trying to give it time to settle in but it just rebooted again when i plugged into pc. I bought my phone used and rooted before i even activated it so i dont know if this is something kernel/rom related. I started another thread a few days ago about this and the few responses i got were people running stock romand kernel not rooted. So i guess all we can hope for is the devs to figure it out or sprint to give us an ota that fixes it since im starting to belive its a hardware issue.
If you're on titan freezas is recommended.
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I saw a few people talking about that but I thought they were talking about for when he released Hades. I'm gonna find the dl link now thanks.
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Just curious OP - have you tried the phone on a newly installed rom without installing any side apps for a day or so and seeing if you have any problems? Back on my old nexus S 4g i had issues with a particular battery app that would give similar problems to what you are experiencing.
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Not for that long a period, no--unfortunately, I haven't been in a position where I could give up most of the use of my phone for that long. Once I have grades submitted next Monday, I can probably do more methodical testing.
I'm still freaked out by the way the launcher pops up every few minutes, though--has anyone else ever seen anything like that?
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One of my favorite rom and kernel combo's is infected eternity with anthrax but random reboots are common for me with any sense based rom. I run MIUI with whatever aosp kernel and everything is flawless. Other than experimenting with kernels to find battery life, MIUI is the most stable rom I have used so far and is my new daily driver!
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My evo also reboots and i havent rooted my phone at all. I did get a new SD card and that reduced the amounts of reboots i get! . Although, i still get a few every week.
hope sprint/person finds a fix for this soon.
Mine did it stock / rooted stock and viper ROM I an on fresh and so far smooth as butter ... Stock rooted was awful every time it would time out bam reboot
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Hi all,
I'm wondering if anyone can help me....I'm getting kind of desperate here! Basically my Atrix keeps randomly rebooting or getting stuck with the screen off (requiring a batter pull) . This happens about 10-20 times a day (my Atrix is far too unreliable right now to use as a daily). This seems to ONLY happen when on network (ie 2g/3g/hspa) and doesn't seem to happen on wifi. I can leave it on all night and day at home on wifi happily with no trouble but as soon as I go to work and leave it on network, the trouble starts. Its weird cause if the phone is doing something with the screen off (playing and streaming music over Bluetooth for example) it won't have any problems. Its only once I leave it at rest on the network that it turns into the most unreliable handset ever.
At first I thought it may be the neutrino rom I was running but I've since been using jokersax's amazing ics builds and the same problem persists. I did a full clean (format /data & /system plus cache and factory wipe ) and loaded on the latest beta build this morning, left it clean with zero apps except google (and xda!) and within an hour of getting to work the problem came back.
I am fully boot loader and network unlocked.
Please, if anyone has any idea I would be really grateful. I am tearing my hair out!
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It is happening with me too, but, I dont realize it on happen on mobile data connection
Since i flashed beta 0.1.0 2d of Jokersax's ICS and come out of home
Today, for 5 times I have to pull battery out of Atrix
Why not try a more stable ROM first and see if you get reboots.You do realize some phones just cannot handle unstable roms like the cm9 builds even though they are great for some ppl it just doesn't workout also maybe you are using an oc kernel that your phone cannot handle.I would check both things first.
Try some a bit more stable.
cm7 ba2ft
wetdream
darkside
gingermod
If you get the same with those then maybe fastboot wipe and stuff like that so you can clear everything out
EDIT: flash a radio too
sk8trix said:
Why not try a more stable ROM first and see if you get reboots.You do realize some phones just cannot handle unstable roms like the cm9 builds even though they are great for some ppl it just doesn't workout also maybe you are using an oc kernel that your phone cannot handle.I would check both things first.
Try some a bit more stable.
cm7 ba2ft
wetdream
darkside
gingermod
If you get the same with those then maybe fastboot wipe and stuff like that so you can clear everything out
EDIT: flash a radio too
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Hey,
Thanks, I'm going to try Gingerblur tonight... I had ruled that out as I have used darkside/gingerblur before and apart from the occasional reboot they were OK. The reboot was OK really, I know its a known issue with this model even with unrooted handsets, as long as its occasional and clean boots back to system again it doesn't really matter as I don't pin lock my sim (currently my problems are either a reboot every three minutes as soon as I switch the screen off... or, more commonly, the dead screen, needing that battery pull) .
I *suspect* that it may be the radio, but really need some solid advice on this because a couple of years ago I completely bricked my G1 by flashing the wrong radio and vowed never to touch radios again if I didn't have to....I am naturally very hesitant about radio flashing from that episode. Can anyone give me some decent advice on which radios i should be looking at for an unlocked ( but formerly Orange UK) Atrix? One very nervous owner here!
The other weird thing is that is perfectly fine when on a power source.
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Hey,
Thanks, I'm going to try Gingerblur tonight... I had ruled that out as I have used darkside/gingerblur before and apart from the occasional reboot they were OK. The reboot was OK really, I know its a known issue with this model even with unrooted handsets, as long as its occasional and clean boots back to system again it doesn't really matter as I don't pin lock my sim (currently my problems are either a reboot every three minutes as soon as I switch the screen off... or, more commonly, the dead screen, needing that battery pull) .
I *suspect* that it may be the radio, but really need some solid advice on this because a couple of years ago I completely bricked my G1 by flashing the wrong radio and vowed never to touch radios again if I didn't have to....I am naturally very hesitant about radio flashing from that episode. Can anyone give me some decent advice on which radios i should be looking at for an unlocked ( but formerly Orange UK) Atrix? One very nervous owner here!
The other weird thing is that is perfectly fine when on a power source.
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Hang on, I'm not making sense here, maybe it is these advanced ROMs, I was just surprised that neutrino (a cm7 based rom) also produced these reboot problems. Anyway, any advice on radios would be appreciated
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As long as you flash atrix radios only you should be okay. I flashed just about every applicable radio on my brother's captivate and never bricked it.
I agree with you and previous posters, it sounds like a radio issue for sure.
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I have the same problem with my Atrix running cm7 ba2ft. Sometimes it does not respond when you try to unlock, and I need to take out the battery to turn it on again. I bought the phone couple of weeks ago.
another thing to look at would be the battery my friend had similar problems with his nexus and tryed Roms and radios I bought him a new battery as a joke and the joke ended up on me cause he hasn't had the problem since let me know if this helped you aswell
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Same problem here. Very aggravating.
I am having the same problem. And I am 100% stock with no mods. I just installed OTA 2.3.6 so I am waiting to see if that helped.
Yeah, I'm really worried this is a hardware problem - I've been quiet these past couple of days testing the brand new GB radio and when that still had errors i then also tried the European one - the problem still persists. I have now downloaded every Atrix radio under the sun now so may try a few more...
This is quite frustrating as a) I really want to enjoy ICS as it really is a step up from previous versions of Android and b) I no longer have the option of selling this in its current state.
I'm also going to try a new battery as WikidClown suggested above, can't harm....I can pick up one on Amazon for less than a tenner.
One thing is for sure, I don't think I will be buying Moto hardware again!
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I am having the same problem. And I am 100% stock with no mods. I just installed OTA 2.3.6 so I am waiting to see if that helped.
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OK, so does anyone have any ideas? I have tested it using a load radios...and still nothing, it still randomly reboots. This is possibly the most unreliable handset I have ever owned
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Have you tried fastboot wipe? Maybe format internal SD and start fresh. Haven't had this issue just trying to help.
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jp2132 said:
Have you tried fastboot wipe? Maybe format internal SD and start fresh. Haven't had this issue just trying to help.
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I have formatted /system and /data etc between ROM changes, how would I do a fastboot wipe? I'm willing to try anything at this point!
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Actually, scratch that, I know exactly how to do that...except I can't boot into fastboot. Is this indicative of something wrong? Will I have to go back to SBF?
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I have formatted /system and /data etc between ROM changes, how would I do a fastboot wipe? I'm willing to try anything at this point!
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i baught my atrix used. everything was stock. still had multiple reboots and battery pulls daily. on cm9 they seem to happen less. and the battery pull only happened once. but i know the issue must still be there. might try my wifes battery. her atrix has rebooted maybe 5 times ever. 3 since this last official update (she is still lock stock and 2 smoking barrels)
OK, trying a new battery is my last hope...I did a fastboot wipe this morning and for an hour and a half it was all going so well...but then the reboot happened.
I'm getting a bit fed up with this pos hardware...I can't even sell this thing in this state.
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Anyone have any other experiences? I have confirmed that it isn't the battery...I bought a new batter and within 45 minutes it has rebooted once and done the screen off thing where it needs a battery pull. Complete crap.
One thing to note is that it does seem to get very warm on the back, although the internals ( behind the battery) don't seem so bad. Is there any way to keep the temp down aside from underclocking? All my roms have always been under clocked so I know that doesn't make any difference.
The other thing I might try is to use something like Noled so the phone isn't completely idle. Might drain the battery a bit unnecessarily though....why couldn't Moto have put in an amoled screen?
Anyway, will report back once I've tried it.
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I used to get tons of random reboots and then I was told to get the app called "Wake My Android Pro". Settings -> Test Activity -> Auto Startup, and Stop Activity checked. Weird settings, I know, technically with stop activity checked it doesn't do anything, but ever since then I don't experience random reboots. This was a few months ago when I was on just CM7. I've always installed this app when I get a new rom and I've tried Neutrino, Darkside, Alien, Aura, CM7, Wet Dream, and currently on joker's CM9 beta 1 build and RARELY experience random reboots. It went from once an hour to once a month now. I'm also on the .36p radio if that helps.
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I used to get tons of random reboots and then I was told to get the app called "Wake My Android Pro". Settings -> Test Activity -> Auto Startup, and Stop Activity checked. Weird settings, I know, technically with stop activity checked it doesn't do anything, but ever since then I don't experience random reboots. This was a few months ago when I was on just CM7. I've always installed this app when I get a new rom and I've tried Neutrino, Darkside, Alien, Aura, CM7, Wet Dream, and currently on joker's CM9 beta 1 build and RARELY experience random reboots. It went from once an hour to once a month now. I'm also on the .36p radio if that helps.
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Cheers, have downloaded and will report back. The most annoying thing about troubleshooting a problem like this is that there is no immediate 'it worked or 'it didn't work' ....it's just a waiting game! Thanks a lot though, really hope it does work (and thanks for replying, was starting to feel like I was answering threads to myself!). I have .36 radio installed already (I think, will check...it's the Brazilian one isn't it?) .
Just to check then...you have all the check boxes in wake my android ticked?
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hello,
i really dont know what else i can do to avoid this problem
every 1-2 hours my phone random restart or freezee and then restart himself..
i tryed almost everything..
replace roms. radio.. etc..
right now i am with cm9 of turl and the kernel 2.6.32.59
baseband n_01.07.05p
dont know what else can i do ..
please try to help me i am really upset about this problem ..
If u in USA use the 37p radio. Then try using fastboot to clean phone then try a new clean install. Using default kernel..
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If that doesn't work, send it in to warranty. Both of mine did this, and Motorola told me it was a hardware issue, and replaced both phones with new ones. Not refurbished units.
I would try wakelock app from market. I had random rebooted and SOD. Wakelock amazingly took care of problem for me. I have it set on partial wakelock. I am still sending it in on warranty BC. I feel I should not have to run an app for my phone to function properly
ok thanks
but the problem with sending it to warrenty is that the tax will be cost lots of money cuz they think its a phone that i bought from out side my country and there is afee in each cellphone that people order 50% almost from the cost..
thanks i will try the app
Just hope it works 4 you. From what I here it is different strokes for different folks with these phones. Good luck. Please post results
well this app really ruined my battery
needed to calibrate all again .
the app made the phone cpu work all the time and this really drained my battery out.
after its drained i couldnt even charge it .
needed to plug in and charge it 12 hours someting like that to get full charge.
i know its not the app that made it slow charge but its really drained my battery much faster.
but i think that the reboots are better since last radio insatall that was recomended in prevoius posts
It does use a bit more battery on mine. I set it on partial wakelock. My battery still last me from when I wake up till I go to sleep. And charges fully when I sleep. Again I set it on partial wakelock. I am also running neutrino rom
same as u i used partial wakelock and its draw 60% of my battery in 5 hours without even touching it.
but i must say after i used some take killers the phone isnt reboting anymore till now. i will check it more few days to give some more details
Fastboot wipe and a completely fresh install should fix and software issue, once you do that try installing apps one by one and work slow, which rom \ kernel \ radio are you using? All those can factor into issues as well. Good luck!
Edit: just re-read first post, do you have this issue with a stabler rom ? I can't seem to find a Cm9 rom that works as good with international rom as well as the blur or cm7 based ones, but that just be me.
yeah i never did fastboot reset . i only formated from recovery. maybe this will fix it.,
but tell you the true after i uninstalled some applications the reboot went to 1 in a day max...
i can live with that ;p
I had the same issues one month ago, then I did a factory reset on settings and fixed
My friend and I have random reboots on our AT&T Atrixes. We have determined that it occurs when we are in an area with a low signal strength. Mine reboots at home at least 3 times a day, but not so much when I am at work or about. My friends reboots when he is traveling to work, and crosses over between cell towers, where his signal strength dips. This only started happening with the last system update. By the time ICS comes out though, I think I will be upgrading to the Galaxy S III.
i will try to do fastboot format soon
hey man dont lose your time haha. you only need choose a correctly kernel for you. i had the same problem.
My AT&T ATRIX random reboot problem stopped when I installed a new sim card. I have no idea why, but I had read that a bad sim card could cause the problem and the local AT&T store provided one.
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Try what i do ever time i flash a rom
All CRAP REMOVING
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase preinstall (not required)
fastboot -w (redundant, wipes userdata and cache)
then if u think ur problem is caused by Radio then falsh a new radio i amusing the 100 version and its working grate
then flash ur rom and gapps and other addons if any then do a Fix permissions from recover and finally reboot and wait till it boots and report back with good news
Usually phone reboot occurs because of under-volting or overclocking heat-up so try not to flash OC kernel and UV it at all and enjoy ur fully functional smooth atrix
I am currently using
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=olympus&type=stable
smooth as butter and no problems at all unless i messed some thing my self.
Atrix Reboot Problems
I had the same issue with constant reboots (at least 10-15 a day). The fix..........NEW SIM card which AT&T provided free of charge! My phone has not rebooted since replacing. Try it!
Android Version 2.3.7
Baseband version N_01.7715P
Kernel version 2.6.32 yadayaya
CyanogenMod 7.2.0
Awesome replies for fixes to this problem has been mentioned. For over a month I was fighting with the atrix random reboot of terror. What did I do
Flashed to CM 7.2, wipe cached/ wiped partition. restarted- problem proceeded
Flashed back to CM 7.1,,,,,,
Flashed faux 123 1.0GHz kernel
flashed faux 123 1.3GHz kernel
flashed abcdefg kernel
flashed more kernels- problem proceeded
Full data-wipe
Did a bunch of other things such as OS monitoring to detect some type of failure..
Noticed reboots mainted the same frequency throughout the day but mostly when making calls. Also noticed duplicate sms when sending texts and receiving especially when traveling bouncing off different towers. Came to the conclusion that it had to be a hardware issue. Changed sim as stated in other replies and forums. Problem eliminated.
Keep in mind under and over voltage can also cause random reboots along with reinstalled system apps etc.
I apologize if this thread is a tad redundant, but I believe it goes beyond your run-of-the-mill glitches that one might post about in the ICS Bugs thread.
I got my OTA upgrade about 10 days ago, and since then my RAZR has been utterly useless.
The biggest problem is an obvious issue with power management. With GB I used to get almost a full day of heavy use. Now I get 2 hours, 3 if I'm lucky. I often find that the phone is extremely hot, as if the processor and radios are running at 100% for no reason.
Perhaps worse than that, it takes infinitely longer to charge than it used to. As in, 5+ hours to go from 0% to 100% -- and that's while the phone is powered off. Powered on, it'll take even longer.
I've experienced issues with almost every app, and with some I've had literally no success whatsoever. Facebook freezes half of the time before even loading up. The stock Browser will freeze a few times a day. Alarm Clock Xtreme freezes whenever I try to edit an alarm. Neither the stock Gallery nor third-party image apps will load up any of my photos without freezing. Google Talk won't initiate video chats. The list goes on and on.
Moreover, the phone will often just freeze outright. Sometimes the screen won't light up, regardless of how many times I press the power button. Sometimes the phone gets stuck on the home screen, and responds to nothing. Sometimes the phone becomes unresponsive, although pressing the capacitive buttons still triggers haptic feedback. Because of this, several times a day I just hold power+down to shut it off the hard way.
At this point, I actually avoid using it. It's that useless. It's more burdensome than it is helpful. It sucks because, when it's working, everything is really smooth and the ICS interface is really cool. I can tell it would be awesome, if only it worked.
Has anyone experienced such madness as this?
FYI, I'm running:
Android version 4.0.4
System version 6.16.211.XT912.Verizon.en.US
Baseband version CDMA_N_05.11.01PLTEDC_U_09.11.00
Kernel version 3.0.8-g29cf5e7, [email protected] #1
Build number 6.7.2-180_DHD-16_M4-31
I can't believe they would release something so unstable.
And yes I've gone into recovery and wiped the cache partition several times to no avail.
I admit there are some issues with the battery and heat and bugs, but i have not experienced any freezing with the stock browser or any program really, alarm clock extreme and it works for me, I don't use the Facebook app often but the few times i have, no real issues sometimes it lags trying to update. I will say thay the market SUCKS or play whatever they call it. Maybe you got a corrupt OTA file or something is wrong with your update installation. Maybe try doing a factory reset, i know that sucks to do but i do it before every OTA and im not really experiencing any of the software issues you are experiencing. If that doesn't help, root it and use the razr 1.7 utility to reinstall the system files.
Did you try to wipe the device (factory default)? It helped in my case.
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If you wana solution to some problems without wiping the phone, boot into recovery and wipe the cache, fixed my battery and a few other problems, It doesnt remove anything you have done, also it eliminated my lagg problem.
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I apologize if this thread is a tad redundant, but I believe it goes beyond your run-of-the-mill glitches that one might post about in the ICS Bugs thread.
I got my OTA upgrade about 10 days ago, and since then my RAZR has been utterly useless.
The biggest problem is an obvious issue with power management. With GB I used to get almost a full day of heavy use. Now I get 2 hours, 3 if I'm lucky. I often find that the phone is extremely hot, as if the processor and radios are running at 100% for no reason.
Perhaps worse than that, it takes infinitely longer to charge than it used to. As in, 5+ hours to go from 0% to 100% -- and that's while the phone is powered off. Powered on, it'll take even longer.
I've experienced issues with almost every app, and with some I've had literally no success whatsoever. Facebook freezes half of the time before even loading up. The stock Browser will freeze a few times a day. Alarm Clock Xtreme freezes whenever I try to edit an alarm. Neither the stock Gallery nor third-party image apps will load up any of my photos without freezing. Google Talk won't initiate video chats. The list goes on and on.
Moreover, the phone will often just freeze outright. Sometimes the screen won't light up, regardless of how many times I press the power button. Sometimes the phone gets stuck on the home screen, and responds to nothing. Sometimes the phone becomes unresponsive, although pressing the capacitive buttons still triggers haptic feedback. Because of this, several times a day I just hold power+down to shut it off the hard way.
At this point, I actually avoid using it. It's that useless. It's more burdensome than it is helpful. It sucks because, when it's working, everything is really smooth and the ICS interface is really cool. I can tell it would be awesome, if only it worked.
Has anyone experienced such madness as this?
FYI, I'm running:
Android version 4.0.4
System version 6.16.211.XT912.Verizon.en.US
Baseband version CDMA_N_05.11.01PLTEDC_U_09.11.00
Kernel version 3.0.8-g29cf5e7, [email protected] #1
Build number 6.7.2-180_DHD-16_M4-31
I can't believe they would release something so unstable.
And yes I've gone into recovery and wiped the cache partition several times to no avail.
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Data wipe, itll fix it. If you dont want to.do.that then root and wipe the cache and dalvik cache.
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AndroidGreg said:
If you wana solution to some problems without wiping the phone, boot into recovery and wipe the cache, fixed my battery and a few other problems, It doesnt remove anything you have done, also it eliminated my lagg problem.
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This is step 1... see if this fixes it... if not, full wipe.
Erik
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syrnett said:
This is step 1... see if this fixes it... if not, full wipe.
Erik
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ICS is very different from GB, and Motonverizola tried really hard to get ICS to play well with existing GB cache data and GB settings. All of that stuff changed a LOT.
The problem isn't ICS: the problem is data conversion from GB to ICS.
Wipe the cache and dalvik. If that doesn't get it, then do a factory reset and set everything up again.
Mine runs for days with light use (1-3 hours a day), or a day+ with heavy use. It doesn't get hot, unless you mean that the other way. But that'd be kinda creepy.
Hi
This is my first post here at this forum and I'm not a Razr user but thinking about getting the Maxx because of it's hardware and big battery which fits my usage of a smartphone, I have a Galaxy S right now.
I have looked at some of the posts and screenshots of the battery usage on the new leaked/released ICS for the Razr and read about complains about the short lived battery and the devices that overheat, well, we had the same problem when GB has been released to the Galaxy S and that is all related to the Android OS app that is using the battery because it's got into a loop, this will not get fixed unless you make Motorola aware of the problem. I could be wrong but I think that is related to the dalvik-machine. Android OS should be using around a single-digit of the battery of all time (3%-7%), we don't have this issue anymore since Samsung fixed this bug in the later releases of GB firmwares.
A temporary fix of the Android OS is to reboot the phone when you can see that it's hijacking the battery, this is until Motorola fixes the issue.
I wish you all good luck and hope that you will get a better firmware soon.
Its always good practice to start fresh when accepting an update that big. Less variables = less problems.....
Id do a factory reset and start from scratch... that sux... i know, but so does a useless phone
Ics def wasnt all the hype.... but its also not that bad... just gotta start clean.
Good luck!
Complete disaster? How is it a disaster compared to my update? After the update I could no longer receive text messages, Consider the fact that I send a receive hundreds of text messages per day this is honestly the biggest cause of outrage I have with a flagship that can't perform even what a Nokia 6280 could, when I finally receive texts they come in 4 hours late and worse still, in DUPLICATES and I can't seem to find any solution to this as of yet. A factory reset fixes this for an hour at best but the problem suffices after that. Does anyone have a SOLUTION to this? Honestly driving me nuts
I agree with most others... do a factory reset. I always do after a major upgrade (and ICS is a major upgrade!)
Then check what apps you are putting on the machine; some cause issues. For instance, I put the new Starbucks 2.0 app upgrade on my phone yesterday - consumed battery like mad, phone ran hot (like cook-an-egg-on-it hot), runaway processes, etc. Turns out it was the new Starbucks app; after removing it the phone ran normal.
Otherwise I love ICS! So try the cache wipe; and if that doesn't help then do a factory reset and reinstall things. Takes time, but it saves in the long run.
Wow, this is crazy to hear. My update has been flawless but I did a factory reset after getting it. I bet if you did that it would fix 99% of your problems.
I also rooted after and now I'm running a cm9 rom. This is the best my phone has ever run.
Ultimately, even if you don't root you can fix most of these problems with a factory reset.
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Hold down the Home button to see what's running, download a task manager to see what's dominating the CPU. The phone won't get hot by itself, something is using up the CPU (like you said) if you don't want to factory reset you've got to figure out what it is. Rooting and setting the CPU governor to hotplug will save quite a bit in battery (shuts the 2nd core off when not needed).
I'm on a Canadian leak, the first day battery performance was terrible. By the 4th day, the battery lasted longer than GB
I concur with everyone here about the factory reset.
As other's have mentioned, going from GB to ICS is a major overhaul. I've read elsewhere what this really entails and it's not pretty. Suffice it to say, I backed up all my user apps and data (using Titanium Backup), saved off all other things that were on my internal SD card just to be safe and then applied the OTA update in stock recovery, wiped data and cache and rebooted. I then rooted, installed Safestrap and flashed Eclipse ICS v1.2 RC1 and restored my apps with TiBu.
I also tried stock ROM as well and restored my apps via TiBu.
In both cases, no performance issues nor forced closes. Runs like a champ.
I'm running the latest .214 leak and my battery life has improved over .211.
.214
Razr Maxx
I was having shorter battery life with the ICS .211 build and then updated to .214
My battery life is way better then it ever was with GB or ICS .211
I ran it the other day for 36hrs and 3 of it actually talking on the phone and had 20% battery life left.
It has currently been on for 4hrs 6 min and is at 90%. light email and phone use. I do have an IMAP email account that poles every 10 minutes with push for instant updates.
Mine is running fine after simple reboot
I am getting great battery life and my Razr Maxx is working almost flawlessly after the ICS OTA stock update. I just rebooted it shortly after the update when it was running hot and haven't had any problems since.
If .214 is even better, great.
Looking forward to Jelly Bean to get even more from my device.
Jeff
Was on the soak test and had the same battery problems. Only way to fix was via a factory reset. This did however fix all the problems.
Cant use motocast, it wont connect to my motocast on my mac. So i cant sync my media. How to solve this?
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
As mentioned I have tried booting into recovery and clearing the cache, but it doesn't help.
Some have suggested wiping the dalvik cache. However I don't see that as an option in the recovery menu. Do I need to root to have that option? Excuse my newness to this.
Worst case I guess I'll just have to do a factory reset
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
As mentioned I have tried booting into recovery and clearing the cache, but it doesn't help.
Some have suggested wiping the dalvik cache. However I don't see that as an option in the recovery menu. Do I need to root to have that option? Excuse my newness to this.
Worst case I guess I'll just have to do a factory reset
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Its under the advanced menu.
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Hello all.
As the title says, I've been having random reboot sessions on my phone lately. When these reboot sessions occur, the battery gets hot.
I'd like to give some more information about my situation:
I've been using CM7.2 on my Huawei u8160 for almost half a year now, without any kind of problems. Lately, the phone started rebooting randomly, especially during phone calls, making the phone almost useless. The reboots also occur when the phone is idle. These reboots drain the battery extremely fast.
I've been using CM7 with the V6 supercharger, as I said, for months without problem. When these reboots started happening, I reflashed the rom, doing a full wipe (clear cache, clear dalvik, format system, format data, factory reset etc.) , but that didn't solve the problem. I reflashed CM7 several times, with / without V6 supercharger, without deleting those system apps that are safe to remove (live wallpapers, update notify etc.). I also reflashed the stock froyo rom the device came with. None of these methods worked.
It is getting more and more frustrating, since they occur randomly, and I can't make a proper phone call, since it's almost guaranteed the phone will reboot during the conversation.
I tried formatting the SD card, using another SD card, resetting the battery stats, using a program on the market and the CMW Recovery - nothing helped.
Another thing I noticed (this may sound very stupid) is that the phone reboots more often when I'm outside (it's winter here now), or when I enter in a warmer place, or when the phone is in my pocket.
I asked an assistant from a nearby Vodafone store, she said that it is a software problem ( -.- ) and that the phone needs to be sent for service. I told her I've already reflashed the software, and she said I only did an update not a full soft flash (lol).
I would really appreciate if anyone could give some suggestions, or help me in any way.
I have also created an error report using the device specific setting menu included in the CM7 rom, which I am attaching here.
Help is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
pneuma00 said:
Hello all.
As the title says, I've been having random reboot sessions on my phone lately. When these reboot sessions occur, the battery gets hot.
I'd like to give some more information about my situation:
I've been using CM7.2 on my Huawei u8160 for almost half a year now, without any kind of problems. Lately, the phone started rebooting randomly, especially during phone calls, making the phone almost useless. The reboots also occur when the phone is idle. These reboots drain the battery extremely fast.
I've been using CM7 with the V6 supercharger, as I said, for months without problem. When these reboots started happening, I reflashed the rom, doing a full wipe (clear cache, clear dalvik, format system, format data, factory reset etc.) , but that didn't solve the problem. I reflashed CM7 several times, with / without V6 supercharger, without deleting those system apps that are safe to remove (live wallpapers, update notify etc.). I also reflashed the stock froyo rom the device came with. None of these methods worked.
It is getting more and more frustrating, since they occur randomly, and I can't make a proper phone call, since it's almost guaranteed the phone will reboot during the conversation.
I tried formatting the SD card, using another SD card, resetting the battery stats, using a program on the market and the CMW Recovery - nothing helped.
Another thing I noticed (this may sound very stupid) is that the phone reboots more often when I'm outside (it's winter here now), or when I enter in a warmer place, or when the phone is in my pocket.
I asked an assistant from a nearby Vodafone store, she said that it is a software problem ( -.- ) and that the phone needs to be sent for service. I told her I've already reflashed the software, and she said I only did an update not a full soft flash (lol).
I would really appreciate if anyone could give some suggestions, or help me in any way.
I have also created an error report using the device specific setting menu included in the CM7 rom, which I am attaching here.
Help is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Yeah, going to the store after flashing a custom ROM is rarely going to yield favorable results. Honestly, I'd try clearing app data and fixing permissions. What recovery are you using? When in doubt, wipe twice.
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Yeah, going to the store after flashing a custom ROM is rarely going to yield favorable results. Honestly, I'd try clearing app data and fixing permissions. What recovery are you using? When in doubt, wipe twice.
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Yeah, I know that rooting void varranty and everything but the naive me thought maybe they can say something clever...
I tried clearing everything, formatting system, data, cache, everything, fixing permissions etc.
I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.x.
I am planning to buy a new battery because I observed it's getting really hot sometimes, and after the reboots occur, it's also really hot.
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Yeah, I know that rooting void varranty and everything but the naive me thought maybe they can say something clever...
I tried clearing everything, formatting system, data, cache, everything, fixing permissions etc.
I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.x.
I am planning to buy a new battery because I observed it's getting really hot sometimes, and after the reboots occur, it's also really hot.
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The more time you devote to this the more you'll realize that most of the folks at the stores dont know much. It wont hurt to buy a new battery. Wipe the battery stats. Do you use a custom kernel? Ovetclocked? Underclocked? Played with the voltage tables?
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The more time you devote to this the more you'll realize that most of the folks at the stores dont know much. It wont hurt to buy a new battery. Wipe the battery stats. Do you use a custom kernel? Ovetclocked? Underclocked? Played with the voltage tables?
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Yeah, you're right...
I did wipe the battery stats, let it drain completely and did a full recharge. For the kernel, I don't really know much about these stuff (yet). This is the ROM I use : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259739. Im my phone info menu it says 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #23 (no idea what this means) so I don't know if it's a custom kernel or a stock one. For clock values I use min: 30MHz max: 600MHz (which is the stock value if I'm not wrong). I don't know what you mean by voltage tables, I'd appreciate if you could explain that.
Thanks so far.
Well basically in a nutshell, voltage is the power sent to the CPU. Some custom kernels allow for what's called undervolting. Basically you're you're lowering the amount of power sent to the CPU, where in theory you'll achieve better battery life. However, this can be very dicey. I would not recommend playing with voltage tables until you're a bit more experienced. I asked because undervolting can lead to boot loops and seemingly random reboots. You're running a solid rom with cm7. If you didn't touch it, then that's the stock cm rom. Have you searched the forum thread?
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Jimmy_Christ said:
Well basically in a nutshell, voltage is the power sent to the CPU. Some custom kernels allow for what's called undervolting. Basically you're you're lowering the amount of power sent to the CPU, where in theory you'll achieve better battery life. However, this can be very dicey. I would not recommend playing with voltage tables until you're a bit more experienced. I asked because undervolting can lead to boot loops and seemingly random reboots. You're running a solid rom with cm7. If you didn't touch it, then that's the stock cm rom. Have you searched the forum thread?
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Yes, I haven't touched anything in the ROM I'm using currently.
I've been searching the forums for days before starting this thread, without success.
What I noticed about the reboots is that it occurs almost exclusively when making / receiving a phone call and when the phone is idle.
*edit: I forgot to mention that I'm using Segoe font, not sure if that makes a difference though. I have replaced almost every font in the /system/fonts folder (droid sans+bold+mono and even droid serif+bold+italic+bolditalic)*