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First of all, hello to everyone. I have been reading through a lot of threads here in the last few weeks after getting my HD2, especially the ones about battery life.
I have never owned a smartphone, so I have no comparison but I'm barely getting through 1 day of use when fully charged! And I'm not even using it that much yet, Wifi is off, no data transfers, just some texting and calls. I have installed Bandswitch and Battlog, didn't really help though.
Got the phone brand new (T-Mobile US) and haven't done any major tweaking yet, it's still pretty much stock with a few programs that I installed so far.
Do you guys have a similar experience or is it completely different? I love the phone, but if I dont even get through one day of use (and I want to use the phone in the future, not just for surfing but for music streaming or web browsing), I would have to bring it back.
Any help appreciated!
It's just something you have to live with, buy a spare battery, or the extended battery, flash a lighter ROM, adjust screen brightness turn off push e-mails etc etc.
I can get 2 days battery from very light use. i.e. a few texts and calls a day, no Wi-Fi, bluetooth or internet browsing. That's just how smartphones are.
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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Maybe you shouldn't have a smart phone? Battery technology is ****, it's a shame, but it's true. The only thing I can suggest is a spare battery, I carry one everywhere.
I generally watch an hour and a half of video a day on my phone, text, call, use the internet and I can still make a 9 hour day with 40%+ battery left, and just incase I am out and about in the evening before I have a chance to get the phone on charge I have the spare.
But with that said half hours charge from the mains will give you a good 30% topup I very seldom have to swap the batterys and I use a pretty juicy ROM.
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It's just something you have to live with
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Given his kind of use, 2 days should be normal. Right now I'm squeezing 3 days out of this battery, and that's only because I swap it out when it's at 10%, otherwise it could be a little longer... and a few calls here and there is not the only thing I did with it... it's still my work pda after all
Since it's pretty much stock, unless it gets better with time (the first recharging cycles are the worst) and even after a hard reset it won't get better, it probably is something wrong not software related.
Install battclock and check the standby battery drain, shouldn't be much higher than 4mA, up to 7mA could be normal, any higher than that, especially if significant, and you've got something wrong, and found the cause to the short battery life.
First off, buy a couple of cheap oem batteries from here...
Now, these eBay batteries have performed slightly better than the original battery...
Some of us smartphone users are so used to poor battery life we have power charging cradles at home work and car just to keep the charge up... And have spare batteries every in case of emergency...
I take my phone off the charger at 6am to go to work... My avg day is 6-10 calls, 20 reminders, an hour of UNO, an hour as a wifi router and I return home at 5pm with 50-60% battery life...
they are trying to make batteries smaller and thinner so they can make the phones thinner and smaller so battery life is compromised. But you do need to give it some time to settle in.
Back up batteries and cradles to charge them are cheap and an easy solution. So are extra chargers to keep at work, in the car, etc. Most people can charge their phone at least an hour during the day and that should give you all you need.
The only smartphone that I didn't carry an extra battery for was the moto q9c, because it came with an extended life battery. But on these phones, that probably isn't the best option.
So what did you guys do to improve the battery life of your HD2? Are there any specific programs (I heared about G-Profile) you are not supposed to use or did you guys just deinstall all the T-Mobile Apps?
If I can just get 1 day of actual use out of it I am OK with that. I just dont want to have die every second or third day if I use more often than normal...
Any suggestions or may tests I could do? I feel like I could stream music on Slacker for about 90 Minutes and the battery would be dead...
EDIT: Just did Battlog for about 15 Minutes, my phone uses between 15ma and 31ma when in standby. So where do I start, how do I find the culprit?
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Mugen Extended-size High-capacity 2600mAh Battery for HTC HD2
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There is a 15% discount right now, better hurry.
Extra chargers and thats it! Now I browse, calls, emails, music, videos, TV stream (Slingplayer) and maximize all of the other features of my HD2 t9193.
Software and the end-user are the cause behind battery drain. I've got 2.5days out of moderate use so I don't think it's the hardware at all.
Methods for testing battery consumption and proof it is typically software related
Hi,
At the risk of looking like I'm trying to hijack this thread, I started a discussion on this particular subject a while ago as feedback on my finding after reading almost all the threads I could find regarding battery use on the HD2. Lude219 is 100% correct, the issue is always software related (yea, I know there might be exceptions to the rule) and my phone was a prime example of that.
See the thread below that explains how to measure your battery consumption, has logs and screen shots from users you have high consumption and also people who have systems where battery life is more than 48 hours so that you can compare your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
Regards
I'm also sure it's software related. My phone would use app. 2% overnight with all connections closed. This i tested over months. Then suddenly without me changing anything drastic software wise, it pulled 5% per 3-4 hours. So after going thru all the cleaning routines nothing helped exept a good "ram cleaning" . Somehow or other the phone starts processes over time wich consume alot of power. One would have to look into it with a process manager to find out what exactly it is. WinMo seems to be quite sofisticated looking at all the running processes. So my view is , keeping the system tidy might be the only way to save the extra power.This is where the huge diffrence to other platforms seems to be, it can take quite a while until you have configured your phone the way you need it. I am useing the stock rom 1.66 German
thanks you guys for participating and sharing your thoughts.
But now, here is a thinker:
Last night, I let my battery drain all the way to zero and then recharged it at night. The only other thing I did was installing BSBTweaks and Touch X Taskmanager. I also changed my Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before).
And I couldnt believe what I was seeing, I took my phone off the charger this morning around 8.30am and now at 7pm I am still at 84%!!! I did not use the phone heavily but sent and received a few texts, made 1 call and played around with it for a little bit. Similiarly to what I did in the beginning after I got the phone, but then the battery had almost died at 7pm!
I am super happy and hope it stays like that but cannot explain why all the sudden it is that different...
Hi everyone,
This is a very usefull thread, for me it is, thanks to everybody that answered.
regrding the last post, a noobish quesition is
”Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before): how do i do this?”
I remember stumbling upon this setting the day i got the phone and started viciously going through it.
Somehow it didnt store in my memory the path i went that day so i can try doing what the man sugested.
So if anyone can lay a hand, much obliged.
Regards
i lost 12 pct over night in 9 hours with my radio turned off last night and only gmail and texts were open...
with battlog how do i do the test so it stays in standby? it keeps turning the screen on and off when i run benchmark
You may want to flash a new radio. Try a new one each day and measure battery life. I use radio 2.12.50 and have had a good experience.
yeah but with my radio turned off the radio shouldnt affect it shoudl it?
i use blackberry to stream pandora radio thru aux for about 8 hours a day and it still has 2 bars left after that.
HD2 just sits there and kills the battery lol
what kind of phone is that when you have to disable all its functions every time you dont use it?
seriously this is called unfinished product or poor design, that is beeing sold to customers as a next best thing.
you guys can argue with me all you want. i heard many excuses from users advocating the companies. such as. if you dont like this than pay more for a better product. well HD2 is a better product, its a 500 dollar phone damn it.
but you dont realize that even the "better" products suffer from same underdevelopment syndrome.
companies spend millions on consumer research and consumers spend millions on **** they dont need every year. cows eat grass, consumers eat garbage made by big companies.
where are the better products? they dont exist because it became "normal" to have a faulty OS or for your phone buttons to fall off, or battery to explode.
companies worked long and hard to make consumers get used to the idea that garbage is just a part of life, and worked long and hard to minimize costs of production, and cut corners.
which corners?
the final QA testing that is not beeing done by a company, so they can release the phone 3 months earlier, the consumers pay for the phone and test it.
we work for the company and we pay for it instead of getting paid.
the phone breaks oh how sad ,
company takes note(dont use this cheap glue or the buttons fall off, get a lil more expensive glue next year)
so they use better glue and cut another corner and we buy another "new and improved phone" and this time screen goes dim oh dang not again...and it continues.
do you disconnect your car battery every night so it doesnt die? or when you buy a lexus do you drive with your AC off because it cant pull the car around when ac is on same time as the stereo?
I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
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I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
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happened with me also....10% battery drained overnight...
what app is using most of ur battery?
sometimes push service in some free market apps drains a lot of battery and it keeps running even when app is closed... check running processes... well i uninstalled that app with push service and all became normal
Thanks for that but i've had a look through and it would seem that there isn't anything happening over night that i'm not expecting or that is being very hard on the battery.
I'm pretty confident the battery is the culprit here. Sourcing a new battery however is proving to be a problem. Somebody somewhere must be selling them.
I've just been on to HTC in the UK, they have a service centre not very far away from me and they won't sell me a battery or even give me a part no. for the battery.
Come on, somebody must know where to get one.
I think i might have found somewhere in China...
Battery - BG41200
3.7v - 4000mAh
If the prices were cheap enough how many of you would be interested in buying a battery for your Flyer.
Perhaps do a group buy?
i thought flyers battery is not user replaceable?
It's very replaceable and easy to do.
Here......
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-flyer/6256123
I'm going to have to look at getting a new battery sooner or later. It's getting to the point hat the battery is always running low by the time I get home in the evening or even running out. With pretty much the same use it used to be good for a day and a half easily. Flyer was purchase may or june 2011 so it really needs to last another 16 months or so.
Well......I ask again. If anyone knows of where to buy an internal Flyer battery please post a linky.
I posted this thread earlier today
"I just wanted to know what people are getting out of their batteries. I unplug mine around 7:30 am when i leave for work. When I get to work i turn on my wifi (rooted thunderbolt) and leave that on all day. I have the setting to turn wifi off (flyer) when screen is off. When I get home around 5:30 i switch to my home network and by 8-10 my battery is pretty much gone. Is this normal battery life or are there any tricks I'm not aware of that will help with battery. My wife has an Ipad 1 and she seems to get days of use out of it before she needs to charge it.
Also, I don't watch movies or video at work... most of my use is surfing, twitter and email."
I'm trying to figure out if what is normal battery life and If mine came with a bad battery. If so Yes I would be interested in getting a new one.
The Ipad battery has much longer life and is a much bigger capacity battery. The new HTC Jetstream also has a much bigger capacity battery as well. I think HTC have learned lessons on how much battery power these flyers use, but unfortunately have used Flyer owners as guinea pigs, rather like the first Apple iPhone but that had terrible battery issues as well although they've gotten better over time.
When my Flyer was brand new the battery lasted for ages and i couldn't understand what people were on about the battery not lasting for very long. So up until a few weeks ago my battery was doing fine and then almost within a day or two the battery started to run down quickly and has been doing so ever since. I've since loaded/unloaded new ROMS and done all the usual procedures for deleting the battery stats etc..., and still no joy.
I think the problem is with the battery not being man enough for the job at 4000mAh, and the drain is such that the battery is being worked hard since September last year (in my case) to a point where it is now progressively failing. I'm not so sure either that it's all that good in terms of quality.
Most of that time it has been charging from one source or another. If my Flyer isn't in the car or in the house it's not often being used battery only unlike most other people probably use the battery only a lot, so i can't understand why the battery is failing when it's not even that old.
This is a big issue with the Flyer and for what the device cost i would have expected a lot better. I think the Flyer in itself is a fantastic piece of kit that i will no doubt keep for a very long time as i did my XDA IIi but i never had problems buying another battery for my IIi. HTC will not sell me a battery, they insist i send the device to them and they will swap it but will cost about £50-£60 for the pleasure. I flatly refuse to pay that!!
What is required is a bigger capacity battery (6000-8000mAh) in the same packaging as the current battery however, i think for now i would happily settle for another of the same battery if i could just get hold of one.
So far it's proving an impossible task!!
Just to add: Once you've made sure there aren't apps being opened at startup that don't need to be opened until you're ready to use them, also make sure wifi/bluetooth, mobile data is all off when not required, and all the usual tweakes to make sure animations are off, screen is on the lowest brightness etc..., then there is not a lot more you can do. I don't know how much use something like Juice Defender will be as that only makes sure your data connections are off at night and other times you specify. I've tried it and it didn't help at all so i don't know what else to suggest apart from turning the radio part of the phone off completely at night if it isn't on charge.
If i leave my phone off charge all night, having fully charged first, i wake up in the morning and it's down to around 86-88% battery.
I am seriously thinking about returning my Sony Tablet S.
I can't seem to get more than 3 hours out of this without a charge.
I play a full movie with wifi/GPS on and then i am down to 30%.
I do have it rooted and most of the bloat apps is gone. I check the battery indicator constantly and the biggest app using battery seems to be android so nothing is zapping my battery life.
Any ideas?
I think something is wrong with you're tablet, mine lasts for more then 8 hours without root.
So yes, return it and ask for a replacement.
bartbla said:
I think something is wrong with you're tablet, mine lasts for more then 8 hours without root.
So yes, return it and ask for a replacement.
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same as that
Try this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
If it doesn't work, send to service centre for a check.
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using xda premium
Try and adjust the backlight intensity
When I first used my tablet the battery seemed to be gone in no time. I have found that reducing the backlight manually has helped. I would say there was a definite difference.
Thanks for all the responses.
Problem is this is for my kid. He don't really have the patience to wait for charges every day.
He like to watch movies on the tablet and play some games here and there. Considering he only use it for 3-4 hours a day, this is insane how short the battery is.
I thought i will never say this...but another android guy bite the dust and cross over to the evil apple kingdom (exchanging for the ipad2 with 10 hour battery life).
jxl92182 said:
Thanks for all the responses.
Problem is this is for my kid. He don't really have the patience to wait for charges every day.
He like to watch movies on the tablet and play some games here and there. Considering he only use it for 3-4 hours a day, this is insane how short the battery is.
I thought i will never say this...but another android guy bite the dust and cross over to the evil apple kingdom (exchanging for the ipad2 with 10 hour battery life).
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so we've all told you that it doesn't sound normal and that you should get much longer out of the device and your answer is "it must be android" rather than a faulty device.......
8 hours to 10 hours on mine, depending on what i do. with and without root, it doesn't change my battery life.
Mine about 8 hours
Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
Schrammi said:
Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
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Same issue and fix here.
I have decent battery life ( 6+ hours) but one thing that makes me wonder is the idle time.
5 hours of screen time is less power consuming than the tablet being 20 hours in idle. Has anyone the same experience?
Yes. In my case it's the 3G modem. Turn it off generally and only on when you use it.
If I compare this case with my iPad I have to say, that the 3G modem in the sony uses much more energy in idle than in my iPad.
My Tablet is WiFi-only. And WiFi shuts down when the screen goes off.
Battery use:
Tablet idle ------------ 49% --> 15h 8m 57s
Screen---------------- 37% --> 4h 56m 31s
Is this strange behaviour or am I just paranoid since this is a totally different battery usage than on a phone( e.g Sensation)?
Bejtulla said:
My Tablet is WiFi-only. And WiFi shuts down when the screen goes off.
Battery use:
Tablet idle ------------ 49% --> 15h 8m 57s
Screen---------------- 37% --> 4h 56m 31s
Is this strange behaviour or am I just paranoid since this is a totally different battery usage than on a phone( e.g Sensation)?
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I report the same type of stats...
Its using a lot of battery in sleep mode. But sometimes it doesn't, sometimes sleep mode last way longer but most of the time its about 25-30 hours in sleep mode and that is way too much...
I hope ICS will fix this, if not i may return mine.
And not 2g/3g/4g here, no celular radio here.. So, its not that.
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Schrammi said:
Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
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USB??? you mean internal SD card (/mnt/sdcard)?
Yes. That's what I mean.
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Hmm. You do realise playing videos and having the wifi on in the background will cane the battery? Even more so if you're streaming said videos to your device via wifi. No doubt you've got the screen turned up full brightness as well?
Mine runs perfectly well and can last for a couple DAYS between charges, depending of course on how I use it.
Follow the tips provided by the others, you might get a fix. If not, get a new one from Sony. It's not a problem with Android - I suspect if you watch hours and hours of movies on an iPad you will still experience excessive battery drain because of the intensive nature of what you're doing!
Thanks for all the suggestions. If the tablet is for me to use daily, I probably would have condition the battery, try to delete all and then restart. However, it is for my kid and frankly it is unacceptable that a brand new tablet after watching one movie (just regular mp4 file i installed into the internal SD) is down to 30% charge.
I won't even start with the rest of the things i am disappointed with; the missing 6 gigs on the 16 gig, the screen little darker than i wanted (the screen protector I don't like at all), and frankly honeycomb in general is not that crispy and well developed.
I did end up getting a Ipad 2. After watching 1 movie, the thing still got 80% juice left....is night and day. Screen is sharper and brighter and most importantly it last more than a day without charge.
I don't want to hype about ipad here and i am still an android fan (i got 2 android phones), but the ipad really is WOW compared to the current corp of android tablets. Yes i am disappointed i won't be able to "tweak" the ipad like i can with droid pads, but Apple OS is so much better developed than honeycomb or ICS for that matter that really you can live without the tweaking.
For all you guys, with Wi-fi only (and 3G if you like the solution), before putting it to sleep put the device in flight mode. I've done it on mine and it was asleep for 4 days while I went out on a journey and when I came back only 30% of battery was gone...
I honestly can only fault the ipad in the sense that a media device, that for all intensive purposes is basically a more convenient option than a laptop, does not have flash support. Quick web browsing on tablets is great but it's useless without flash :S. Damn apple. Other than that I think the iPad is pretty great, especially now that the pricing for the new iPad has become alot sharper than in the price. Obviously to combat the success of Android tablets of late. But all I want out of a tablet is a bit of web browsing here and there, a couple games now and then and a nice digital photo frame to boot
I don't know about everyone else, but I have no desire to flash the crap out of my Sony tablet like I do with my SGS2. Now that I have root access it's doing everything I wanted it to do (and should have done!) from the start. So long is it's stable and responsive I'll be happy with it for a few years at least.
I was never happy with my tablet from day one but for me it was just software - sluggish and app incompatibility - a factory reset and root has fixed all that now. Never once have I had an issue with battery life. Sure as hell out-does any gameboy/ds/psp I've owned. Standby will last weeks if I don't touch it too.
So to those of you getting around 1-2 days standby time, something is seriously wrong with your tablet. There must either be a fault with your battery itself, or some app has gone rogue and just keeps it awake the whole time. i dont think any type of conditioning your battery will heed any results;
I didn't condition my battery at all when I got it and it's just fine. I played it with the 5% charge it had out of box till it died, got home, charged a bit, played with it till it shut off again, then when it got about 1/2 full just took it off charge and played with it again. Now it normally gets charged every friday whether it needs it or not.
So my shiny new TS arrived last week unexpectedly (Came home from work, wife hands me parcel saying "this arrived for you", I go "wtf, what could that be?" open and go "wow, wasn't expecting that")
Played with it for a few mins and put it aside as I needed to go swimming, very, very disappointed I couldn't take it with me.
First day usage left the battery quite drained, but that's expected. I then charged it up on Friday and pretty much left it till Tuesday when there was 87% battery left, cycled to work (~30 mins ride) tracking using sportstracklive (If you want a GPX then PM me as i don't want to make it public to the world) 70-odd percent left. Spent a bit of time showing it off to friends and colleagues, charged it up (it wasn't that low but I wasn't taking any chances) then rode home again. Still at 97% after the ride, wow. Rode in Wednesday, home again Wednesday and in again today, still at 66%.
Seriously impressed with the battery life on stock ROM. (that's assuming the percentage isn't a complete lie, which is a big assumption).
Question now is:
1. Do I play with cyrilp's SWapp link or continue to test the battery with current minimal usage to establish a "control" for battery drain. (PS sorry cyrilp for the FC reports, it doesn't seem happy on my Ascend P2)
2. Do I apply loki's ROM now or later...?
All in, I forgive Omate a *little* but they're seriously in my bad books for lack of waterproofing, looks like I can't use it on this years London Triathlon after all
I've been happy with battery life as well. Sometimes the OS seems to report the battery wrong or something for me..I'll turn it off, then on and it will drain like 20 or 30 percent in a couple mins or something. But when I plug it in to charge it (when powered off) the charging meter tells me exactly what I would have thought it should have been, instead of 20 or 30 percent lower. Strange yes.
When I manage to get the back off this thing (those screws are in TIGHT) I'll try my other battery to see if this persists.
speedyink said:
I've been happy with battery life as well. Sometimes the OS seems to report the battery wrong or something for me..I'll turn it off, then on and it will drain like 20 or 30 percent in a couple mins or something. But when I plug it in to charge it (when powered off) the charging meter tells me exactly what I would have thought it should have been, instead of 20 or 30 percent lower. Strange yes.
When I manage to get the back off this thing (those screws are in TIGHT) I'll try my other battery to see if this persists.
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I bought this screw driver to open the back as I was having trouble with the supplied one (which is crap and will most likely damage the heads of the screws). http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231202852753?var=530421615605&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Works perfectly was able to open those tight screws with relative ease. Worth it considering how easily damaged the screw heads are. Magnetic too. :good:
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I bought this screw driver to open the back as I was having trouble with the supplied one (which is crap and will most likely damage the heads of the screws). http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231202852753?var=530421615605&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Works perfectly was able to open those tight screws with relative ease. Worth it considering how easily damaged the screw heads are. Magnetic too. :good:
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Good to know. That one doesn't ship outside Europe, but it's good to know it's just that screw driver. I'll try a different screw driver, thanks.
My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
sms2000 said:
My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
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I recently bought a N6 in great condition because I was refunded my money for my Nexus 6P. The phone did need a battery replacement though. It throttled under 40% and had early shutdowns.
I changed the battery (Cameron Sino) and modded my frame and back while I was at it.
The phone does run smoother (although no matter what rom I try, it always slows down to an unusable pace after a week or two) and stopped throttling.
I however do not get anywhere close to the SOT some of you guys are getting.
The most I could get is probably 2h30m if I'm lucky. Mostly I get around 1h30m to 2h.
I really want to get this fixed because I plan to use my N6 until the new Pixels arrive (which is still a long time).
I do have my Moto 360 connected but this is not the problem. I ran a clean rom install without my watch connected and bluetooth disabled and did not get more battery life out of it.
Edit: I'm running Nitrogen OS at the moment.
herecomedatboi said:
I recently bought a N6 in great condition because I was refunded my money for my Nexus 6P. The phone did need a battery replacement though. It throttled under 40% and had early shutdowns.
I changed the battery (Cameron Sino) and modded my frame and back while I was at it.
The phone does run smoother (although no matter what rom I try, it always slows down to an unusable pace after a week or two) and stopped throttling.
I however do not get anywhere close to the SOT some of you guys are getting.
The most I could get is probably 2h30m if I'm lucky. Mostly I get around 1h30m to 2h.
I really want to get this fixed because I plan to use my N6 until the new Pixels arrive (which is still a long time).
I do have my Moto 360 connected but this is not the problem. I ran a clean rom install without my watch connected and bluetooth disabled and did not get more battery life out of it.
Edit: I'm running Nitrogen OS at the moment.
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I'm deep in concern Moto implemented the N6 radio module or the radio flash or vendor or any other proprietary in the way to interfere with a proper day to day work.
Artificial aging promotes us to buy new devices every 2-3 years. But from the performance point, our 32bit N6 is still adequate.
Would be happy to get it to my kid instead of buying another device for him. He already killed my old Note 2 and close to do the same with J7.
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I'm deep in concern Moto implemented the N6 radio module or the radio flash or vendor or any other proprietary in the way to interfere with a proper day to day work.
Artificial aging promotes us to buy new devices every 2-3 years. But from the performance point, our 32bit N6 is still adequate.
Would be happy to get it to my kid instead of buying another device for him. He already killed my old Note 2 and close to do the same with J7.
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I had a similar problem on the Nexus 5 a while back. What I did was to put the phone in recovery and let it drain till the battery wore out then charge it back to full while still in recovery. It took a while but seemed to stop the battery from both shutting down early or reaching 0% prematurely. Sounds weird I'm sure but it had an affect. Nothing to lose to try it.
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My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
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I had a similar experience, changed out the battery in my device back in March. Performance is marginally better, but it still turns off at or around 15%. Nothing new out there to entice me yet, though Best Buy does have a great deal on the Pixel 2 XL with Verizon right now.
I was thinking about what it is about the Nexus 6 that has kept me with it for longer than any other phone. I decided that one of the many things I like is the 16:9 aspect ratio. The phone is thick, for sure, but 16:9 is just right. Not sure if I am ready for the 19:9 or 18.5:9 or whatever else is going on out there.
I just keep my phone plugged in at work, helps me get through the day both battery and performance wise.
are the ones getting shutdowns sub 40 on oero? i have that problem on every oero rom i try so i keep going back to nougat
dipstik said:
are the ones getting shutdowns sub 40 on oero? i have that problem on every oero rom i try so i keep going back to nougat
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i was having that problem on nougat around 40% ( pure nexus), used it for over 6 months, moved to oreo for couple of weeks. both aosip and lineage os. its worse. i am afraid to let it go bellow 70 because its my daily driver and i don't have a back up phone right now. i am not even rooted now because it adds to instability.
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Within a week of my last Post it was so bad that I had to have the phone plugged in all the time. If unplugged phone would turn off around 95%. If I pull down quick setting bar it would shut off immediately. So I get a battery and replaced the old one. Took me an hour and half to fully charge more than 2 days ago. I'm not really using it. Off and on I would turn it on to check emails, browse little bit, play some videos etc. I'm at 11 percent now. Battery saver turned on at 15%. More than 4.5 jour sot.
At 9 percent now, no shut down yet. Not even one. I'll plug it in now.
Another thing I recently discovered is that revootimg into safe mode and then rebooting back in to regular mode clears up some issues. Anyone having random shutdown issues might want to try this. It seems to have good results so far for me. Phone is now more fluid than it has been since I bought it.
It's time, darling...
Donated my N6 to my kid. Bought OnePlus 6 for myself and 5 for my fem. My old N6 reflashed stock and it looses battery pretty quickly. Will try to do all those recommendations from above...
have any of you tried rebooting to bootloader, selecting Bootloader Logs and holding the power button down till it reboots trick?
For my N6 i put 2 battery in parrallel, and i got more than 8hours screen on !
But no more back-plastic-plate..
At least, i can handle a big day
For charging i'm force to use only fast-charge charger, under 800ma it take 20hours for full charge ! (5h in 5v1500ma and 1hours at 9v2A )
Lineage 16 - Popcorn Kernel + undervolt cpu -30mv*
Problem solved, at least 1more year with this phone for only 15$
riwan15 said:
For my N6 i put 2 battery in parrallel, and i got more than 8hours screen on !
But no more back-plastic-plate..
At least, i can handle a big day
For charging i'm force to use only fast-charge charger, under 800ma it take 20hours for full charge ! (5h in 5v1500ma and 1hours at 9v2A )
Lineage 16 - Popcorn Kernel + undervolt cpu -30mv*
Problem solved, at least 1more year with this phone for only 15$
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can u share how do you do that, i plan to buy a new battery and if it is easy to mod i want to use both 2 batt like u
ponichia said:
can u share how do you do that, i plan to buy a new battery and if it is easy to mod i want to use both 2 batt like u
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Just buy 2 new battery, verify the voltage (they have to be the same before soldering) on one diconnect the BMS and use your soldering tool to put the two battery in parrallel
Keep using one BMS for connecting to the phone
You'll have to cut the plastic to fit the two battery, and you'll never be able to put the battery cache again of course, use some tape of your favorite color to protect the back ( if you don't put tape you will cut the BMS cable or damage the button connector )
That's all ?
Just want to share my experience...My nexus6 used as backup phone got same problem. I only use to stream live video and need to connect it to charger or powerbank to avoid random reboot. Then, last month I accidentally found e-commerce shop sell N6 battery around [email protected] and I tried my luck to change the battery... after changing to new battery and used almost 3weeks I found no more random reboot but battery life is not great in idle (using android9 custom rom) then I switch to android 8 custom rom..idle is improved but sot only can get 3hours only. Check with accubatery shows 3100mah...