Confused About Radios - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm new to the Atrix and, after successfully unlocking/rooting/flashing a custom rom, I'm not sure about is which radio I should be using.
My phone is a UK T-mobile version but I've searched the forum and can't find any radio for a T-mobile device. Should I be using ones for AT&T or should I use the Bell international radios? Sorry if this sounds stupid
Any help would be much appreciated.

Use radios that are compatible with the bands of your radio. Find out what bands are used in the uk for tmobile, and then find radios that are compatible. And its best to fastboot flash radios, btw.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Right thanks, that makes things a bit clearer Never seen a radio on here state which bands it uses though. I'll have a look into it. Thanks

I also would like to understand this.
Let say I'm using AT&T set, but live in Malaysia, should I flash SEA radio 1.95R or keep using the default AT&T radio.
I tried both but I don't feel any difference.

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I bought my Atrix when I was in S.Korea

I bought my Atrix when I was in S.Korea
Now I am in Thailand. There are two network signals for 3G here, 850MHz and 900MHz. I checked the Korean Motorola web site and found out it only supports 2100MHz.
Korean version doesn't have a radio function either. Some said actually it supports radio too but somehow users cannot use and find it. Coz telecommunication companies in Korea don't want people use the radio for free. so they blocked it.
(Radio application costs with 3G usage and it profits them)
Probably they don't want user bring out his phone outside of country also.
It's so ridiculous. Korean Motorola modified its tech spec for just Korean user?
I guess they restricted (or blocked) functions by using Korean firmware. you guys think it's possible? Should I change my firmware to use?
If any help it will be appreciated.
(I suck at English hope you understand what I ask)
Atrix does not support fm radio. A chip on board does, but the connections are not made on the motherboard.
i believe he refers to radio baseband software like ATT as N_01.77.36P and bell as some other kind. also tried 2 different radios and cant get it to work . remember to back up by CWM rom manager before you change anything. i also have a korean atrix i was just trying so see if different one will increase speed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339047
good luck
also u need to have bootloader unlocked and rooted

[Q] I have a Rogers One, which forum should I be on??

As stated above; I'm getting the Rogers HTC One, but I'm not sure which forum I should be following.
With my SGSIII it was simple, Rogers was listed with the AT&T version, and the international version is quite different from the North American, but the One doesn't really seem different between the regions. My biggest concern is the ROMs, want to make sure I'm getting the right ROM for my device.
Thanks
T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers and all GSM carriers are the same as the international version. You can follow either thread you want
Only difference is radio bands
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[Q] AT&T Rom for Factory Unlocked Device

I had AT&T Unlock this handset since I have T-Mobile.
I don't believe T-Mobile's LTE will work on this device regardless of what I end up doing, so I'll be willing to live without that.
So will I be able to flash any of the international roms knowing that I won't have LTE Capabilities?
Or am I still forced to flash roms for the AT&T hardware?
AT&T version uses diffrent radio H/W and kernel, so you can't use international roms..
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Oh...
Well thanks.
It's a little difficult looking for decent roms for my version, but I'll manage.

ATT Radios

I'm sorry for the noob question, but I have an ATT One M8 and I would like to convert to the developer edition to get rid of all of this ATT nonsense.
I had a couple of questions:
1. If I do, the LTE radios are different for the ATT version and the developer version, if I use the ruu from a developer edition, will I limit the LTE frequencies I can use?
2. If I convert to developer using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721435, will I be able to get developer updates and pretend that I'm fully unlocked and stock?
Anyways, sorry if these are covered, but I have had a difficult time finding clear answers regarding the radio
k3y0n4 said:
I'm sorry for the noob question, but I have an ATT One M8 and I would like to convert to the developer edition to get rid of all of this ATT nonsense.
I had a couple of questions:
1. If I do, the LTE radios are different for the ATT version and the developer version, if I use the ruu from a developer edition, will I limit the LTE frequencies I can use?
2. If I convert to developer using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721435, will I be able to get developer updates and pretend that I'm fully unlocked and stock?
Anyways, sorry if these are covered, but I have had a difficult time finding clear answers regarding the radio
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Well first you need to convert your phone to the GPE edition before you do anything else, according to that link. Plus is your bootloader unlocked and are you Supercid?
Tower1972 said:
Well first you need to convert your phone to the GPE edition before you do anything else, according to that link. Plus is your bootloader unlocked and are you Supercid?
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Ok, fair enough, I suppose maybe this is a better guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...238-convert-att-device-developer-edition.html
I think the point is, if I s-off and install the developer RUU, then I assume that will use developer radios right? Can I flash the ATT radios after the developer edition RUU?
Maybe a tangential question is how the cell radio frequencies work. ATT uses, 700, 1700 AWS, 1900 PCS, 2300 WCS LTE bands. I would assume, different towers will broadcast different bands. So if you had the developer edition which just supports the 700MHz band, then if you came across a tower that broadcast another, you wouldn't be able to connect. Is that basic premise correct? Is it possible all towers broadcast all bands?
k3y0n4 said:
Ok, fair enough, I suppose maybe this is a better guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...238-convert-att-device-developer-edition.html
I think the point is, if I s-off and install the developer RUU, then I assume that will use developer radios right? Can I flash the ATT radios after the developer edition RUU?
Maybe a tangential question is how the cell radio frequencies work. ATT uses, 700, 1700 AWS, 1900 PCS, 2300 WCS LTE bands. I would assume, different towers will broadcast different bands. So if you had the developer edition which just supports the 700MHz band, then if you came across a tower that broadcast another, you wouldn't be able to connect. Is that basic premise correct? Is it possible all towers broadcast all bands?
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Hot damn thats a loaded question and alittle out of my realm lol. Hopefully someone will answer!!!!
k3y0n4 said:
I think the point is, if I s-off and install the developer RUU, then I assume that will use developer radios right? Can I flash the ATT radios after the developer edition RUU?
Maybe a tangential question is how the cell radio frequencies work. ATT uses, 700, 1700 AWS, 1900 PCS, 2300 WCS LTE bands. I would assume, different towers will broadcast different bands. So if you had the developer edition which just supports the 700MHz band, then if you came across a tower that broadcast another, you wouldn't be able to connect. Is that basic premise correct? Is it possible all towers broadcast all bands?
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As long as you are s-off, you can flash whatever radio you want. You also need SuperCID according to the radio thread (since the AT&T CID does not match your device CID): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
I don't know where you are getting that the Dev Edition is only compatible with 700 MHz. According to HTC specs, it supports LTE Bands 17/4/2/5, which corresponds to Bands 4 and 17 (700 and 1700 MHz)used by AT&T.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=42973
My understanding is that the US unlocked and DE versions are both intended for use on AT&T. Also my understanding is the hardware is identical to the AT&T variant. I don't see a reason the band compatibility in the radio firmware would be any different.
Moved to Q&A forum.
redpoint73 said:
As long as you are s-off, you can flash whatever radio you want. You also need SuperCID according to the radio thread (since the AT&T CID does not match your device CID): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
I don't know where you are getting that the Dev Edition is only compatible with 700 MHz. According to HTC specs, it supports LTE Bands 17/4/2/5, which corresponds to Bands 4 and 17 (700 and 1700 MHz)used by AT&T.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=42973
My understanding is that the US unlocked and DE versions are both intended for use on AT&T. Also my understanding is the hardware is identical to the AT&T variant. I don't see a reason the band compatibility in the radio firmware would be any different.
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Oh, thanks. For some reason, when I looked previously I couldn't find the frequency specs on the HTC website before. I likely skipped the 'summary' page and went straight to the specs, where it oddly isn't listed. I was assuming the developer edition was the same as the GPE edition, which lists only 700MHz.
So then as a follow up, I'm sort of new to this, but I would like to convert my unit to a developer edition, would the best method be using a developer RUU? And if I do, that would likely flash the developer radio, which is likely the same as the ATT, but would I need to flash the ATT radio? Does an RUU contain radio information? How would OTA updates work? If I kept my CID as a superCID, then can I get OTA updates from HTC? Would it reflash the radio? Does it matter?
Thanks again for the previous clarification, and sorry if this is clearly stated elsewhere. I seemed to be finding conflicting advice and was completely unable to find any radio information.
k3y0n4 said:
Ok, fair enough, I suppose maybe this is a better guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...238-convert-att-device-developer-edition.html
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That guide is for the M7. AFAIK, there is currently no RUU for the Dev Edition for the M8. So your questions regarding the RUU don't really apply. But in general yes, they include a radio. RUU is a complete image, it includes all software (ROM, radio, hboot, and more).
If the goal is simply to get rid of the AT&T bloat, gimped features, etc., then my advice would be that it would be to unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery, and flash a custom ROM.
redpoint73 said:
That guide is for the M7. AFAIK, there is currently no RUU for the Dev Edition for the M8. So your questions regarding the RUU don't really apply. But in general yes, they include a radio. RUU is a complete image, it includes all software (ROM, radio, hboot, and more).
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Ok, I'm an idiot. Here is the guide I am going to follow. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758812
I'll take most of my further questions over to it's thread. Thank you for bearing with the nonsense.
If the goal is simply to get rid of the AT&T bloat, gimped features, etc., then my advice would be that it would be to unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery, and flash a custom ROM.
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My goal is primarily to get rid of ATT bloat and have easy access to up to date 'stable' feature releases from HTC. I'm coming from a S3 with CM11 which I loved from a software standpoint and may end up with before too long, but for the time being I would like to stick with stock. The stock sense is nice enough to use and I appreciate the added stability which was a frustration with the custom ROMs that I've tried. Bluetooth was always a sore spot.
Again, thanks for the help.
k3y0n4 said:
My goal is primarily to get rid of ATT bloat and have easy access to up to date 'stable' feature releases from HTC.
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In any case you will be unlocking the bootloader (modding the phone) in order to remove AT&T bloat. And IMO official OTA updates have no place on modded phones. Updated features come to XDA in the form of custom ROMs, rooted stock ROMs, etc. soon after their "official" release. So to me, that is not an issue. You can try to jump through hoops turning it into a DE phone, and hope you get OTAs (not sure if you will or not). Or you can have complete freedom to flash and mod whatever you want.
To me, its a pretty easy choice.

[Q] AT&T roms or Tmobile roms?

I have a AT&T branded M8 that I use on Tmobile because it is sim unlocked. My question is, do I flash custom roms from the Tmobile xda board or do I stick with AT&T roms only? I've never use a nonbranded phone! Thank you.
Its a tricky question, actually. In general any ROM meant for the GSM M8 should be "safe" to flash, in that they won't damage your phone and will work for the most part (but stay away from the CDMA ROMs for Verizon and Sprint). But some ROMs might work better on your specific (T-Mobile) network. Also, a different radio may or may not affect reception. The most you can really do is to read up or ask other T-Mobile users (or even T-Mobile customers using the AT&T version M8 like you) what has resulted from trial and error; or experiment yourself.

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