what app is you use when you take notes? - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

I feel inconvenience using flyer basic memo app.
Because virtual keyboard pops up suddenly, and note is automatically saved with pause.
Do you think that app is useful?
If you guys are using other note app, please inform me what app it is.
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Well when I still was running the HTC Flyer on Gingerbread, I used notes and someone had a good tip: Press your left hand thumb on the left side of the page (the very left where you can't write on anyway). Just hold the thumb down while you are writing and the keyboard wont come up and also the softbuttons wont trigger eventually.
This actually made the notes app quiet useful.
However - since I mostly annotate pdfs I moved to Honeycomb and use ezpdf in combination with tapeatalk (tapeatalk is the best solution for audio recording anyway since the file is automatically named as a date and even with 3gp the voice recording quality is good - it also never crashes while notes has its problems with multitasking, audio recording, saving and notetaking at the same time).
My suggestion: Move on to Honeycomb - you will find more sophisticated solutions (others also mentioned handwriting recognition with writepad).
Have fun!

i moved on to hc
i'm satisfied with hc! lol
thanks for your advice
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Himmig said:
Well when I still was running the HTC Flyer on Gingerbread, I used notes and someone had a good tip: Press your left hand thumb on the left side of the page (the very left where you can't write on anyway). Just hold the thumb down while you are writing and the keyboard wont come up and also the softbuttons wont trigger eventually.
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Cool, although... I wish it could be disabled instead.

I found it useful to use a Null Keyboard. I think there are only a few on the market, one of which is free. You would just enable the null keyboard in settings, long press in HTC Notes and choose the Input Method as the null keyboard. No keyboard would popup if you activate a text cursor. That solution worked better in Gingerbread from what I remember. In Honeycomb, the null keyboard also disabled the pens button, whereas I think you could still access the pens in Gingerbread.

Mind me asking, but are there any folks out that would say that the keyboard popup annoyance is way bigger on Honeycomb compared to Gingerbread? I had a really long meeting on Friday where I constantly fought with the keyboard, and it went a bit better on Gingerbread as far as I remember.
As for the null keyboard. Let's assume it's working the way as intended - wouldn't that mean I'd always had to switch to a full keyboard once I want to use one in a different app (e.g. 'the browser')?
I really use the USP of the Flyer (i.e. the notes option) heavily in my job, so I am keen on getting the keyboard thing solved for once .

I don't think the popup problem is any bigger in Honeycomb, in my experience. I just use the same put-your-finger-on-the-spiral trick that Himmig mentioned earlier, which works maybe 80% of the time.
Yes, you do have to switch back from the null keyboard. It's one-too-many long-presses away for me to be able to call it convenient, but it works OK (again, only in gingerbread). If the null keyboard didn't turn off the pens in honeycomb, it would have been perfect because there is a keyboard-selection panel next to the notification area where you can quickly switch between keyboards. Perhaps this is not the case for all null keyboards?

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I don't think the popup problem is any bigger in Honeycomb, in my experience. I just use the same put-your-finger-on-the-spiral trick that Himmig mentioned earlier, which works maybe 80% of the time.
Yes, you do have to switch back from the null keyboard. It's one-too-many long-presses away for me to be able to call it convenient, but it works OK (again, only in gingerbread). If the null keyboard didn't turn off the pens in honeycomb, it would have been perfect because there is a keyboard-selection panel next to the notification area where you can quickly switch between keyboards. Perhaps this is not the case for all null keyboards?
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This finger trick works like a charm!!
Also, I use the stock note app and even though it is not perfect, it gets the job done very well! I have not used a single sheet of paper since the beginning of this semester.
Even though, the flyer went on sale for 300 last week and I lost 200 bucks, it has been the best money I've spent! I absolutely love this tablet!
Regards.

Hello,
Let me comment also about this subject...
Flyer's most outstanding feature is that pen and it's really hard to understand why HTC was ok with that simple built in Notes (even it's Evernote for HTC) and didn't bring a really powerful note take application to make a full use of the pen.
I don't want to fire any polemics but if this innovation would have been introduced by Apple, you couldn't have imagine how they would promote it with a bundled strong application with it (even paid one). Anyway, this is some other topic...
Now, I also use Notes synched with Evernote but there are some issues. I have a number of notebooks but they aren't fully synched with Evernote. In one sync session say only 3 notebooks, in other 4 but never the all. Second, the well-mentioned keyboard issue. Since I'm left handed the trick didn't work me so well.
Now I'm in HC and using an app called "Antipaper Notes". I liked it very much but the trial version is too limited. I would like to buy the pro version (or "activation" with their wording) but they say it's deactivated say when you flash a custom rom or delete app. So I didn't go for it. But as I told the app is quite well.
I also heard about Quill but didn't have any chance to try it out. I've tried Skitch, a product of Evernote, which is also better for hand notetaking. If you don't have to take a photo or record a sound, these seem to very well.
I expect HTC to make powerful applications for the pen at least for note, sketch and paint. Ok, they've released Pen SDK but still we don't have good bundled SWs.
To sum up,
1. Antipaper Notes (tried, very well but restricted)
2. Skitch (over the average, good note take)
3. Native Notes (don't like that but using)
If you have tried different programs, could you please add up and comment so that we can try?
Thanks.

I can suggest all of you to use tasker to automatically switch between null keyboard in notes and stock/other keyboard in other applications. I have successfully make tasker profile for this task. But you must install secure setting plugin to give tasker access to Android secure setting!
If you use null keyboard in native Notes, there will be no lag even though we used it for speed writing. Just like wacom tablet PC!

iwansuryo said:
I can suggest all of you to use tasker to automatically switch between null keyboard in notes and stock/other keyboard in other applications. I have successfully make tasker profile for this task. But you must install secure setting plugin to give tasker access to Android secure setting!
If you use null keyboard in native Notes, there will be no lag even though we used it for speed writing. Just like wacom tablet PC!
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That sounds interesting, maybe good to give a try. Btw, are u using GB or HC? I am using HC and wonder if these are compatible with HC. Guess found out when I go home...
Edit: iwansuryo, could you please detail how to create a profile in tasker? I couldn't figure out how to make switch in between apps?

You need the secure setting plug in and null keyboard. Set a task that when notes opens the input method is null keyboard. Make the exit task that the input method is whatever keyboard you use
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avoid keyboard popping up.
aostl said:
You need the secure setting plug in and null keyboard. Set a task that when notes opens the input method is null keyboard. Make the exit task that the input method is whatever keyboard you use
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here is the trick I use to avoid the keyboard popping up. always ensure the pen is pressured and pressed on the screen before placing the rest of the hand on the screen. once you do that, you can freely move your hand and even lift both your hand and pen off the screen and go back on the screen palm first ( if you do it quickly ) as you would normally when writing. it takes some practice, but it will become second nature in no time. I find it work better than the thumb trick.

The BIGGEST downfall is that handwritting to text is so bad :\
The Lenovo tablet works ok, but it isn't too good of a general note taking app.
I wish the HTC note app supported conversion, would improve it 10X, especially since the majority of note taking I take gets converted into One note text doc.

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Your opinion requested

Hi All,
I'm seeking the opinion of current Rose owners.
The north american version of the Rose is about to be released in Canada (labelled as HTC S743) It looks to be identical in all respects to the S740 except that the radio is adjusted for north american 3G frequencies.
I'm currently using the S730 and I used to have a VOX until my wife decided that she liked it. When I look at the specs for the S743 and the reviews online, my initial reaction is that I MUST have one. But before I go out and spend that kind of money, my questions for you Rose owners are:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
I appreciate any opinions you have to offer.
Thanks,
Canuk
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Hi All,
I'm seeking the opinion of current Rose owners.
The north american version of the Rose is about to be released in Canada (labelled as HTC S743) It looks to be identical in all respects to the S740 except that the radio is adjusted for north american 3G frequencies.
I'm currently using the S730 and I used to have a VOX until my wife decided that she liked it. When I look at the specs for the S743 and the reviews online, my initial reaction is that I MUST have one. But before I go out and spend that kind of money, my questions for you Rose owners are:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
I appreciate any opinions you have to offer.
Thanks,
Canuk
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Not sure if i am a good reference, since i am absolutely in love with this device. am still trying to answer your questions:
More responsive? absolutely so. owned a vox before that, and these two devices are worlds apart. both processor power and ram wise (ran out of ram on the vox on several occasions resulting in program crashes when simultaniously running nav software and pocket player for example. never happened with the rose so far, and doubt it ever will. not even gonna start talking about lockups on the vox because of the rather feeble processor.)
Will it fit a pocket? depends on your pocket i suppose. fits fine in mine (i do not wear baggy pants. its not really that large anyways. compared to the vox: same depth, slimmer, but a bit longer.)
battery life moderate use? mine lasts for about 24 hours. not sure if that could be a reference point tho: fairly heavy browsing, 3g and bluetooth and ActiveSync push on 24/7, tons of progs running in the background, a2dp stream for 2-3 hours, sometimes some wifi. itll definately last from morning till sometime around midnight.
if i could change one thing? acquiring my baby ripped quite a big hole into my pocket back then...
hope that helps,
.-ombre-.
Released in Canada by whom, and where???
I just got one last week. If you like the Vox & Wings then you'll absolutely love the Rose.
This phone is very responsive. The typical annoyance of HTC smartpones like: unresponsive keypad, d-pad that occasionally missed when action key is pressed are gone. The addition of GPS is a big welcome.
Regarding the size, It's a bit longer but narrower, so it felt good on the palm and can be easily slipped into the pocket. I use a landyard and carry it naked.
Regarding battery life: I push my email and let my messanger on all day and the battery can last for the whole day. So the battery is good.
If I could change one thing: I wish it has video call ability like the wings.
Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it and you have helped me make my decision.
Ombre - I share your pain on the cash outlay! Fortunately this would qualify as a legitimate business expense for me so I don't have to shoulder the entire $$ burden myself.
Kardboard - It was supposed to be released on Expansys this Monday, but I've just checked the site and it seems we are going to have to wait for a couple more weeks.
Thanks again!
Canuk
AVE...
I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
Urgon said:
AVE...
I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
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Maybe you're using Opera 9.5 for the PPC and not the SP one (there's no opera 9.5 for the SP).
Just use Iris Browser, latest versions are very good.
Urgon said:
AVE...
I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
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To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
http://smarttoolkit.wordpress.com/download/
About CHome, I can add windows Live, Contacts (several pages) without any problems.
Opera for smartphone is only version 8.5. Use OperaMini, it's really good and free.
AVE...
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This program is great. Thank you.
And yes, I used wrong version of Opera. But for now I'll use Iris...
There are also two programs I wish to recommend for any Rose user:
Mobipocket Reader - for ebooks;
Palringo - for IM.
I used Mobipocket Reader before with Nokia E50(Symbian s60v3) and I must tell you: it's very good piece of freeware.
On the other hand Palringo has limited functionality. It can connect with many IM protocols(unfortunately not with Gadu-Gadu), but it has some functions I like: it can send voice messages and photos to anyone on IM contact list and it works well with Jabber transports. I tried few Jabber clients, but they didn't worked well enough...
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To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
http://smarttoolkit.wordpress.com/download/...QUOTE]
I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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I'm fresh from a nokia e61, here's my take after about a week's worth of use:
Responsiveness is as fast as most smartphones on the market today. Not exactly dumbphone-snappy, but not nearly slow enough to get in your way. The only thing that might bug you is the one-second delay you get when you slide the thing open and shut on anything except the home screen; personally, I didn't mind it that much.
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
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Funny you should ask that…when I first cracked the box open, it had a sticker on the screen that said, I quote, "remove phone from pants pocket before sitting down." Found it kinda ironic, as it's not nearly hefty or bulky enough to actually warrant such a label. To be fair, it's rather hefty compared to most phones, and in fact about as thick as a whiteboard marker. I've found the design hides its bulk quite well (the faceted back cover in fact makes it look slimmer than it is).
Battery life was disappointing, frankly, but as a disclaimer, my previous phone had a ridiculously long-lasting battery for a smartphone. I'm able to pull about a day's worth of usage with auto-checking email every 5 minutes, about 8 texts in and out, 3G on, and light wifi browsing.
Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
Another thing that bugs me is the inconsistent function of the "back" button. In some apps it deletes, in other times (like menu navigation) it takes you to the previously viewed menu/app, some other times it serves as a back button from within an application.
As for fortes, I think the best feature would be HTC's homescreen GUI overlay. It's extremely functional and logical, listing clock, calendar, missed calls and alerts, messaging, mail, etc, etc. I've found it to be so functional, in fact, that I hardly ever dive into the (admittedly rather unsightly) underlying WinMo menus. For most information you might need at-a-glance from your mobile, the homescreen certainly delivers.
Just my take. Hope it helps you, or if not, some other forum-lurker or prospective buyer.
peseta said:
[email protected] said:
To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
http://smarttoolkit.wordpress.com/download/...QUOTE]
I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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Try Vito CopyPaste.
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Hi ninethreetwo,
Thanks for the input. I definitely prefer to carry the phone in my pocket. I've had some larger phones in the past that were too big for pockets (Blue Angel, Harrier, Palm 700wx) and I just couldn't find a convenient place to put the belt case. I was always catching in on things or crushing it when I got in to the car. One of the reasons for buying a Vox was the compact and "pocket friendly" form factor.
ninethreetwo said:
Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
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I can relate. My one complaint about many of the smartphone interfaces is that it oftentimes takes too many clicks to get what I want. On the Wings I modificed the HTC interface slightly to include the recent apps gui (like in the default interface) which helped tremendously.
Thanks again for your feedback! I appreciate the time that you and the other contributers to this thread have taken to provide such considered and detailed responses.
Thanks,
Canuk
AVE...
I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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You can select text in Word Mobile. As Master Yoda would say: "use the [shift] key, Luke". Simply open file, select EDIT, place cursor where you want to start your selection, hold down [shift] and scroll down with D-Pad.
Next, for SmartToolkit work you must install RC8 version. Also in Control Panel>General set "On Homescreen" to be "SmartToolkit Taskbar", and in Control Panel > Hotkeys set [Clipboard] to be your D-Pad button. This way you will be able to use your standard options on Homescreen made by HTC and in the same time use SmartToolkit. And in Control Panel > Gadgets you can create easy-accessed shortcuts and Pop-up Launcher lists with your programs, it's very useful.
It looks like this:
ninethreetwo said:
Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
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You can use CHome Configurator (grab the CAB from the Excalibur board) to add shorcuts to favorite applications at the home panels (See attached screenshot). It's very easy, here are the steps:
1. Open CHome Configurator
2. Show 'CLinks' and hilight it and press action to customize
3. Then Go to 'Menu/Page/New'
4. Then in the new page, click 'Menu\Template\Application Launcher'
5. Select the application that you want, set the name & icon
6. Repeat the procedure for as many shortcut as you like
7. Once finished, save at exit.
Other alternative is to use quick launcher application like xBar, RightMenu, SmartToolKit or just use a different theme which use rjshorcut plugins. The best place to get S740 themes is here:
http://www.nectun.com/galerie.php?langue=en&id_type_skin=-1&id_type_tel=15
Use this free Theme Changer to compliment the themes that you download:
http://www.ifihadadollarforeverytimesomeonesaidthatiwouldhavemyownwebsite.com/ThemeChanger/
To remapped the home key, you can use software like AEButtonPlus or Hotbutton Plus
Cheers!
Thenext1 and Urgon, thank you for your replies.
I downloaded Vito CopyPaste version 1.3 and installed it.
It does work (e.g. in Mail), however for some reason doesn't in Word Mobile.
Very disappointing
The selection method of shift+D-pad works, so at last I can edit text afterwards.
However copy/cut/paste with ctrl+C/X/V doesn't work in Word Mobile.
This (regular) option however works in other apps (e.g. Mail, SMS, Contacts).
I also installed SmartToolkit RC08 and changed the settings as suggested.
It certainly works now very well and isn't intrusive for the Home screen with HTC sliding panels. It also (for now) doesn't slow down or freeze (like I experienced with RC09).
But, while I can get copy/cut/paste working in other applications, also this doesn't work in Word Mobile.
Is somehow in Word Mobile the possibility of using copy/cut/paste blocked ?
AVE...
It shall work, certainly works for me. You have to hold down the D-pad button for 0,5 seconds to access clipboard menu. It may be also required to restart your phone in order to make it work.
Below you can see my clipboard menu in Word Mobile.
BTW, the whole Office package is useless, because you can't create new documents.
Urgon said:
AVE...
It shall work, certainly works for me. You have to hold down the D-pad button for 0,5 seconds to access clipboard menu. It may be also required to restart your phone in order to make it work.
Below you can see my clipboard menu in Word Mobile.
BTW, the whole Office package is useless, because you can't create new documents.
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I agree, especially Word mobile is completely useless, even for opening documents created on a PC.
Excel sort-of works when opening documents.
Powerpoint instead is near-perfect.
Well, I tried copy/paste again with SmartToolkit in Word Mobile and now it worked. Must have done something wrong before.
That Word Mobile is a very crippled text editor is certainly true.
But sometimes you really need a text-editor and beggars can't be choosers.
On my reliable iPAQ hx4700 I use Textmaker, almost as powerfull as the Windows version, which is one of the best alternatives for MS Word. The same is true for Planmaker (PPC an Windows versions) as alternative for Excel.
The problem of not being able to create a new document or worksheet in WinMo 6 Standard can be solved easily bij copying an empty .doc and an empty.xls file from your PC to your Smartphone. Use these files and save them as another file afer editing (so you keep the empty files unchanged)
A more elegant solution is the free donew (I believe I saw this tip in one of the threads in this Rose forum, so credits where they are due): it creates 2 extra links in "Office Mobile" to an empty Word and empty Excel file.
Canuk said:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
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I only had a few moments with Vox, but I would say that difference is quite noticable. Especially RAM is an overkill on Rose.
Canuk said:
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
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I always carry it in my pocket without a problem. It isn't the thinniest phone in the world, though.
Canuk said:
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
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I would say 1.5 day on average. Mine lasts between 1 to 3 days depending on usage.
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If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
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Hard to say really, it doesn't miss much. I would like it a little bit thinner.

What apps would you like to see?

Hey guys,
Are there any (simple)tablet specific apps you guys would really like to see? I'm no star programmer(2nd year software eng. student with no experience before university) and I'm certainly not an android pro(really just got into android development in January) but I'll see what I can do. I've been working on some simple phone apps but I'd really like to get started with some apps for honeycomb.
If there are any fans of theoatmeal.com, I'm thinking my first honeycomb app will just be a simple viewer for his comics. Nothing complicated, just a list of comics on the side, with an image view which you can swipe to change panes in the comic and then some tabs at the top to filter(all, cats, grammar, food, animals, tech - just like on the website). I wish I could work on it this weekend but I'm leaving for my parent's in about half an hour and I don't have my laptop with me(just my galaxy tab 10.1).
Anyway, let me know what you'd like to see.
Automatic about :debug desktop view app.
A deviantart app so I can see images quicker and easier.
that's actually a good idea. It's really frustrating to have to put that in every time. Not sure how to do it exactly, but I doubt it would be too hard.
I've never used deviantart myself but that is something I could look into.
I'm thinking of trying to make an app that can send text messages when connected to a phone via bluetooth. Not sure if it will happen but it should be an interesting project. I was originally planning on doing it with google's push api but that would be more work and probably isn't necessary(do you really want to receive text messages on your tablet when it's not in range of your phone? I wouldn't).
That would be useful. Heck even away from the phone would be useful for many people. When "away" SMS gets forwarded to email or gv.
I believe blackberry playbook has a lot of functionality between phone and tablet. Anything to increase the handshake between android tablet phone would be great. Even if its a chrome2phone style sending a map or website back and forth.
Data recorder
For some reason the 3G watchdog app doesnt work correctly on my galaxy tab 10.1v. A working app designed for the tablet would be nice, unless other people have other suggestions I could try out.
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That would be useful. Heck even away from the phone would be useful for many people. When "away" SMS gets forwarded to email or gv.
I believe blackberry playbook has a lot of functionality between phone and tablet. Anything to increase the handshake between android tablet phone would be great. Even if its a chrome2phone style sending a map or website back and forth.
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On the desire hd stock msg application you can do this. Just press the menu button in the sms app and you get an advanced menu
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I should get my I/o tab next week so I'm not sure if these are in...
plants vs zombies hd
a working netflix
torch
google voice
I'm a student and would like to see more apps that I could use like the notebook app for the htc flyer. Something that looks professional and simple. Like having a word document on your tab. There's a few out there but none that are entirely convincing. From what i've heard there are apps for other tabs that can record lectures, have word recognition, among other really awesome things. Assus has a decent app for it too I guess, but i'd like to see it on the galaxy tab 10.1 forsure.
Get netflix to work on honeycomb!
jhild352 said:
Get netflix to work on honeycomb!
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x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Give me an Android equivilent of pages, numbers and keynote. That's all I could ask for. And maybe faster speeds of the tab
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I really wish i was part of Swift Key VIP so i could get the swift key beta tablet keyboard. I would like a new keyboard 10.1, cmon no auto-prediction?
Also ive been trying to find a way to SMS for my tablet.
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I really wish i was part of Swift Key VIP so i could get the swift key beta tablet keyboard. I would like a new keyboard 10.1, cmon no auto-prediction?
Also ive been trying to find a way to SMS for my tablet.
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You can turn the word prediction on in keyboard settings for Samsung's keyboard. it's called XT9 prediction. Even the stock honeycomb keyboard does have prediction.
I wasn't entirely convinced by the stock keyboard nor Samsung's keyboard so I bought Thumb Keyboard from the Market. I haven't looked back since
A Flipboard style app would be pretty nice, it's about the only app I miss from my iPad (besides Netflix & HBO Go).
Vexorg said:
Also ive been trying to find a way to SMS for my tablet.
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I'm developing an app just for this purpose. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133277
Netflix Netflix and Netflix please
oh and maybe Netflix?
Swype 3.0 is awesome on the SGT, few bugs but great features. I have a challenge for the college student. Create a lockscreen replacement for honeycomb where you can define app shortcuts to place around the unlock circle similar to the unlock icon and drag the smaller circle to each shortcut to launch the app. Similar to sense 3.0 but for honeycomb!
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howettl said:
I'm developing an app just for this purpose. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133277
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How does this compare to SMSSync? Can you post screenshots?
An app that can read ebooks and comics. Has a notepad feature and has flip page animation for all of them.
A decent effing sports app that has favorite teams, a working widget, and is usable in both portrait and landscape.

[Q] Some questions pre-sale.

Basically I intend to buy this as a primary note taking device for lecture for this coming semester and beyond and I have some questions.
Firstly what is the best tablet office apps that work well with the hardware keyboard? I had a play with Polaris in a shop on the original Transformer but I'm just wondering if there is better out there.
It'd be nice if there was like an automatic save every 30 seconds/minute or similar feature.
Also it'd be VERY useful if there was an app that allowed me to open two files at once. So I could, say, have an editable .doc open on one side of the screen and a .ppt on the other...
Secondly how is the physical keyboard? Like I said I played with the Transformer recently and the keyboard seemed pretty nice. A little bit small but something I could get used to/fast on.
Might add more if I think of them.
Thanks, G.
Don't have keyboard so can't speak to that but for office apps I like Google docs and smart office
smart office is a lot better and is very good sure you will like it
tylermaciaszek said:
Don't have keyboard so can't speak to that but for office apps I like Google docs and smart office
smart office is a lot better and is very good sure you will like it
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I nabbed the Smart Office APK in the Getjar $0 sale and it seems decent on my phone, does it have a tablet interface?
See I would love to use Google Docs but I heard it requires internet to work and due to the way my university's WiFi security is I'll only be able to use internet with apps that support proxy routing (as Android doesn't have this built in to the OS).
Yes the tablet interface is very nice I like it a lot
tylermaciaszek said:
Yes the tablet interface is very nice I like it a lot
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Thanks for the screenshots!
Is it possible to have the edit option on screen always/in easy use?
I'll be keen to change formatting to underline/bold/italics etc quite often.
Also, how quickly can one jump in and out of list options?
EDIT: also how quickly can one "tab" in an indent and then get back out of it?
I would say for what you want this may not be for you
edit bar does not stay open but jumping into options is just a press of button
For you, you may want documents to go or office suite 5 I read good reviews of those
tylermaciaszek said:
I would say for what you want this may not be for you
edit bar does not stay open but jumping into options is just a press of button
For you, you may want documents to go or office suite 5 I read good reviews of those
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Thanks.
Anyone else have input? Specific to my needs if possible
I had an original transformer, just got my prime yesterday.
I used my tf last two semesters for all my classes.
I usually use the pre-loaded supernote app to take notes. It takes kb input and you can draw as well (useful for science classes).
my teachers give us power point lecture slides and for that the polaris office is pretty good, I haven't tried the other office apps, but polaris should do most of what you throw at it.
Some of my teachers give pdf lecture notes, I use repligo reader to annotate on pdf.
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Just gonna bump this in the hope that someone can direct me to something that might help me more.
This PDF annotation software will help as I need to deal with a lot of case law etc.
I'm guessing that there is nothing out there currently that supports having two documents open at once side by side as I said above?
Main requirement would be snappy formatting (Bold/Underline/Italic), can this be done in Polaris with CTRL+B/U/I?.
Also the list thing, I know it's not automatic when tabbing like in Word but an easy/quick to use button is fine.
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Just gonna bump this in the hope that someone can direct me to something that might help me more.
This PDF annotation software will help as I need to deal with a lot of case law etc.
I'm guessing that there is nothing out there currently that supports having two documents open at once side by side as I said above?
Main requirement would be snappy formatting (Bold/Underline/Italic), can this be done in Polaris with CTRL+B/U/I?.
Also the list thing, I know it's not automatic when tabbing like in Word but an easy/quick to use button is fine.
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no, there is currently no way of running two apps at the same time, it's a limitation of all mobile based OS's, everything essentially runs in full screen mode.
the CTRL commands should work fine, i'm pretty sure i used them for various things on my tf101.
Are any of these aforementioned office suit apps compatible with odt (OpenOffice format)?
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no, there is currently no way of running two apps at the same time, it's a limitation of all mobile based OS's, everything essentially runs in full screen mode.
the CTRL commands should work fine, i'm pretty sure i used them for various things on my tf101.
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It's not about running two apps at once. It's about one app having two files open at once.
Say a word document on the left and then a powerpoint on the right.
I doubted it'd be available. Maybe it'll come.

SuperNote discussion

I have been using SuperNote to write notes for my classes, and I have some problems with it...
Anyone know if there is anything I/we can do to get Asus to fix some bugs?
I would love to be able to get a bug report to them so that they can maybe provide us with some updates in regards to this.
Problems (I'll add more as I remember):
- Export Notes does not export the photos or annotations
- Page 63 is exported as page 64
- When typing on the very last line, the view keeps going up and down
- There are no special characters
- it does not support basic keyboard shortcuts like Ctrl+C Ctrl+V Ctrl+A (Esenthel)
Might help if you told us what you think is wrong with it.
you could get a logcat while you're doing those things that screw up and send it to asus?
A logcat huh... never thought of that...
Although the thing is, I don't think sending an e-mail to support at asus dot com will do any good...
I was kinda hoping that there might be a better way than doing that...
I like the app, but these little bugs are a little bit silly... I'm not a developer, but I don't think it's too hard to fix these... right...?
For me what's most annoying is that it does not support basic keyboard shortcuts like Ctrl+C Ctrl+V Ctrl+A, I do have the keyboard dock, so I'd like to use it for full advantage
Ah yeah... that is annoying... lemme edit the top list and add that on.
for me, honestly, super note was disappointing. i was expecting it to be so much better.
some fixes id suggest if any rep is here, or if we wanna compile:
1. the limit on a page is annoying. youll be writing something and then it wont let you go down anymore. i know its replica of a4 paper, however, i think itd be better if itd continue downwards, like in Microsoft word.
2. the pixelation that occurs when you create an annotation and resize it.
so annoying!
3. already discussed, but the fact that a stylus doesnt work makes things hard
this sort of interrelates with point 2 above, because...
i for example will want to draw a graph. now to precisely label it, i cant do it with my finger, nor a stylus. so i have to draw it HUGE using annotation, then resize it to make it smaller. then it pixelates!
4. no autocorrect or the ability to correct. it just comes up with red lines.
5. - no change in font.
6. the ability to interchange the page type would be nice, for example: lined paper to graph paper.
7. when doing math, usually, i'd draw a line down the middle of my page to divide the page in half and thus have more working space. i wish this functionality was possible in supernote. i.e. divide the page and have your own custom sections in which you can write.
8. the lack of colours. theres only like 4! - black, blue, red, green!
9. the inability to record and type at the same time. - that includes voice recorder, and video recorder.
i have to open up the sound recorder app and use that, - this way i cant actually insert the sound clip into my notes.
10. following on from the point above, the inability to insert things! cant insert sound files, movie files!
thats all i can think of atm.
Gabroo said:
for me, honestly, super note was disappointing. i was expecting it to be so much better.
some fixes id suggest if any rep is here, or if we wanna compile:
1. the limit on a page is annoying. youll be writing something and then it wont let you go down anymore. i know its replica of a4 paper, however, i think itd be better if itd continue downwards, like in Microsoft word.
2. the pixelation that occurs when you create an annotation and resize it.
so annoying!
3. already discussed, but the fact that a stylus doesnt work makes things hard
this sort of interrelates with point 2 above, because...
i for example will want to draw a graph. now to precisely label it, i cant do it with my finger, nor a stylus. so i have to draw it HUGE using annotation, then resize it to make it smaller. then it pixelates!
4. no autocorrect or the ability to correct. it just comes up with red lines.
5. - no change in font.
6. the ability to interchange the page type would be nice, for example: lined paper to graph paper.
7. when doing math, usually, i'd draw a line down the middle of my page to divide the page in half and thus have more working space. i wish this functionality was possible in supernote. i.e. divide the page and have your own custom sections in which you can write.
8. the lack of colours. theres only like 4! - black, blue, red, green!
9. the inability to record and type at the same time. - that includes voice recorder, and video recorder.
i have to open up the sound recorder app and use that, - this way i cant actually insert the sound clip into my notes.
10. following on from the point above, the inability to insert things! cant insert sound files, movie files!
thats all i can think of atm.
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All of this! Lol
And I hate that even when you readjust the page after filling it up, when you start typing the freaking thing jumps up and puts all your words at the bottom, even intermittently throwing them off the screen.
I would definitely like to either see them put more work into this app so it truly is super, or I'd like to see someone pick it apart and create a new one that works right.
I moved this thread to the "Themes and Apps" forum because, well it just fits better here
FreeNote is much better then Supernote.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zdWlzaG91eGllLmZyZWVub3RlIl0.
- U can write xx pages.
- u can export notes to many apps for ex evernote.
- u can save file as pdf or photo.
- handwriting, keyboard writting, Keyboard+hand writting, touch keyboard with many options,
- u can draw all u want - not only letters and u dont to create separate sheets. U can do all these things on one page!
- and a lot of more!
I loved the app when i saw it, and after trying to use it once i disabled it.
I mainly use tablets to write histories apart from the obvious email and websurfing.
It force closed on me on a very long test note i was writing and all was lost, tried again this time copying and pasting a long piece of text and bam force close again.
To be honest i deeply regret buying the TF700
i have tried everything so far to replace a real laptop and it has proven a big waste of money...
I guess my last resot would be to try the iPad but i can't do that to myself i am afraid i might like it
mibo666 said:
FreeNote is much better then Supernote.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zdWlzaG91eGllLmZyZWVub3RlIl0.
- U can write xx pages.
- u can export notes to many apps for ex evernote.
- u can save file as pdf or photo.
- handwriting, keyboard writting, Keyboard+hand writting, touch keyboard with many options,
- u can draw all u want - not only letters and u dont to create separate sheets. U can do all these things on one page!
- and a lot of more!
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Evernote.. End of..
Ever note needs to be connected... try using it in the tibet while climbing the everest....
Nazeroth said:
Ever note needs to be connected... try using it in the tibet while climbing the everest....
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It's worth the premium account then then offline works like a charm.
If i wanted to pay for simple tasks I would have got an iPad, wait no they come with a decent note application... (I tested my wife's)
here is a good note taking I found not as much fuzzy stuff as super notes but doesnt force closes every time a bird flys by
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mx5ZGVsdXNpb25zLmFwcC5leHRlbnNpdmVfbm90ZXMiXQ..
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Ever note needs to be connected... try using it in the tibet while climbing the everest....
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No it doesn't... Evernote works fine off line. It just waits to sync until you're connected, unless something has changed since the last time I used it.
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When I tried with the SKY Wifi Smartpen It kept crashing when no connection was available and I could not see any notes taken unless I was online.
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When I tried with the SKY Wifi Smartpen It kept crashing when no connection was available and I could not see any notes taken unless I was online.
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I think that has more to do with the pen than Evernote. It sounds like the pen needs wifi. Is there an option to use bluetooth instead of wifi?
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No, not the pen, I transfered notes from the pen to evernotes, then tried to access the notes from evernotes and could not unless online
Yes, exactly. The pen uploads the notes to the Evernote cloud, so how would you be able to access them without the internet? Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this would be the problem regardless of what note app or service you use, unless the pen can somehow transfer the notes directly to the Prime. There is no service in the world that can access a cloud-based server without access to the internet.
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What's annoying you about the yoga book? (android)

Just got mine today, and am liking it so far. Few small issues I've run into tho:
The placement of the power button is exactly where I hold the device when I've got it folded to tablet mode and am using in in Portrait orientation and it's plugged in. (Quickly discovered this trying to set the device up while charging after first getting it! If it's not charging, I can easily hold the side with the power key at the top, but when it's charging, I prefer to hold it with the charging cable coming out the top.)
There's no way (that I've found) to set the keyboard, onscreen or Halo, to dvorak. I can readily enough install a different onscreen keyboard (switched it to gboard, in fact), but I'd expected to be able to remap the Halo keyboard readily as well. This might be a deal breaker for me, I'm not sure yet.
Halokeyboard...
Halokeyboard supports only one touchpoint. I just want to play Dos games using emulator like dosbox but because of this limit I can't play my vintage games.
the Basic software Note Saver is definitely too limited, some better native software will be welcome. the second webcam on the keyboard side is useless,
I'd like a bordless larger screen for the same tablet size ,
coming from remix os i must say they handled the windowing alot better. for example every application can be windowed and every window can be resized. Although pen input on non-full screen applications can be unpredictable e.g. touch point offset so i can see why lenovo adopted a stricter windowing policy. hopefully nougat will improve functionality.
Not being able to change the default app
I've got 2 of these in the house, I use the Android one and the wife has the windows variant. Both are flawed in their own way, Notesaver on Android is awful, looks fine when writing but pixellates horribly when exporting and Windows cannot take notes when the screen is off, which I use a lot on the Android version. I'd love to be able to change the default app that the hardware button launches to Onenote (or even Squid or Inkredible). I realise this would probably kill the screen-off writing which is very handy but currently we have 2 very similar tablets, that can't even share notes between them without major issues.
Netflix offline isn't compatible... It's Android... How is it different than a 2 yr old $hit$ung 10in android tablet... ?
* No gamepad support
* No OTG ethernet support
* Halo keyboard very sensitive, just brushing past a key is enough for it to engage
* Won't fit in my 10" tablet holder
I bought the Pixel C and the Yoga Book as I couldn't decide on one or the other. I decided on the Yoga Book but not being able to use a gamepad, no ethernet support, and it's inability to fit in my awesome tablet holder w/bt keyboard is really starting to bug me.
I still have the Pixel C sitting in a box ready to be sent. Now I'm having second thoughts. Should I send back the Yoga in favor of the Pixel C?
Skullpuck said:
* No gamepad support
* No OTG ethernet support
* Halo keyboard very sensitive, just brushing past a key is enough for it to engage
* Won't fit in my 10" tablet holder
I bought the Pixel C and the Yoga Book as I couldn't decide on one or the other. I decided on the Yoga Book but not being able to use a gamepad, no ethernet support, and it's inability to fit in my awesome tablet holder w/bt keyboard is really starting to bug me.
I still have the Pixel C sitting in a box ready to be sent. Now I'm having second thoughts. Should I send back the Yoga in favor of the Pixel C?
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This Gamepad is working fine with mine!
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B019PXVCDQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Works with any other Android 6 Device I tried.
Indurus said:
This Gamepad is working fine with mine!
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B019PXVCDQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Works with any other Android 6 Device I tried.
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Wow. I didn't know that even existed. Buying one tonight. Thanks!
The Halo keyboard is mostly okay for me, though it's never going to replace a proper laptop for typing (I'd hate to try to write a long report with it), but the thing I dislike most about it is the touchpad. It's pretty terrible, so I rarely use it. It's also much too close to the spacebar so it's very easy to accidentaly touch the touchpad while typing and move the cursor somewhere where you don't want it to be.
I cant figure out how to run a proper linux distribution (assuming it's possible). Can't even find a way to boot from USB (if any succeeds please let me know :crying: ) .
I'm getting random reboots all of a sudden on my Android model. It used to do this with an older update, but stopped when I installed the Dec 9 update until today.
Anyone else seeing the same?
keepcalmrollon said:
I'm getting random reboots all of a sudden on my Android model. It used to do this with an older update, but stopped when I installed the Dec 9 update until today.
Anyone else seeing the same?
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Can confirm, but for me it got better - I think when installing the December update.
I've discovered a new problem-my password manager, Lastpass, which ties into the accessibility settings to work, keeps getting disabled! (android version)
heldc said:
I've discovered a new problem-my password manager, Lastpass, which ties into the accessibility settings to work, keeps getting disabled! (android version)
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I was getting the same problem too. A question in the Lastpass FAQ suggested disabling battery optimization for the app, which seems to be working so far. Hopefully it'll stick.
Original reference: https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=9272
I like mine alot except that the left top corner tablet portion's pressure and touch is really really bad And there are couple areas (around f keys) where things get slightly wobbly when drawing.
Btw do not get me wrong but people who use online password managers must be out of there minds!!! They were already hacked, I cant believe that no lessons got learned there ;( Use whatever you want but saving your passwords to cloud just defats the whole purpose of security.
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I like mine alot except that the left top corner tablet portion's pressure and touch is really really bad And there are couple areas (around f keys) where things get slightly wobbly when drawing.
Btw do not get me wrong but people who use online password managers must be out of there minds!!! They were already hacked, I cant believe that no lessons got learned there ;( Use whatever you want but saving your passwords to cloud just defats the whole purpose of security.
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While I agree there's a certain amount of risk with services such as LastPass. Using a strong password and two factor authentication goes some way to mitigating this. I use LastPass and have it configured so only my devices can access my account, any other device is automatically rejected. Plus each time I do log in on my authorized devices, I still need to grant access using an authentication app on my phone. You can also encrypt individual accounts within LastPass using a separate password. So even if your account was compromised, these login details would not be visible.
No two finger scrolling on the touchpad, and the scrolling solution they use is bad because you can't continuously scroll with it
Minor annoyance is if you're trying to do a capital letter you have to hold shift like a traditional keyboard and not like on a Android on screen keyboard.
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* No gamepad support
* No OTG ethernet support
* Halo keyboard very sensitive, just brushing past a key is enough for it to engage
* Won't fit in my 10" tablet holder
I bought the Pixel C and the Yoga Book as I couldn't decide on one or the other. I decided on the Yoga Book but not being able to use a gamepad, no ethernet support, and it's inability to fit in my awesome tablet holder w/bt keyboard is really starting to bug me.
I still have the Pixel C sitting in a box ready to be sent. Now I'm having second thoughts. Should I send back the Yoga in favor of the Pixel C?
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I think you must have done something wrong. because bluetooth gamepads also works with mine. I'm using a Steel series free with good results

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