Just got mine today, and am liking it so far. Few small issues I've run into tho:
The placement of the power button is exactly where I hold the device when I've got it folded to tablet mode and am using in in Portrait orientation and it's plugged in. (Quickly discovered this trying to set the device up while charging after first getting it! If it's not charging, I can easily hold the side with the power key at the top, but when it's charging, I prefer to hold it with the charging cable coming out the top.)
There's no way (that I've found) to set the keyboard, onscreen or Halo, to dvorak. I can readily enough install a different onscreen keyboard (switched it to gboard, in fact), but I'd expected to be able to remap the Halo keyboard readily as well. This might be a deal breaker for me, I'm not sure yet.
Halokeyboard...
Halokeyboard supports only one touchpoint. I just want to play Dos games using emulator like dosbox but because of this limit I can't play my vintage games.
the Basic software Note Saver is definitely too limited, some better native software will be welcome. the second webcam on the keyboard side is useless,
I'd like a bordless larger screen for the same tablet size ,
coming from remix os i must say they handled the windowing alot better. for example every application can be windowed and every window can be resized. Although pen input on non-full screen applications can be unpredictable e.g. touch point offset so i can see why lenovo adopted a stricter windowing policy. hopefully nougat will improve functionality.
Not being able to change the default app
I've got 2 of these in the house, I use the Android one and the wife has the windows variant. Both are flawed in their own way, Notesaver on Android is awful, looks fine when writing but pixellates horribly when exporting and Windows cannot take notes when the screen is off, which I use a lot on the Android version. I'd love to be able to change the default app that the hardware button launches to Onenote (or even Squid or Inkredible). I realise this would probably kill the screen-off writing which is very handy but currently we have 2 very similar tablets, that can't even share notes between them without major issues.
Netflix offline isn't compatible... It's Android... How is it different than a 2 yr old $hit$ung 10in android tablet... ?
* No gamepad support
* No OTG ethernet support
* Halo keyboard very sensitive, just brushing past a key is enough for it to engage
* Won't fit in my 10" tablet holder
I bought the Pixel C and the Yoga Book as I couldn't decide on one or the other. I decided on the Yoga Book but not being able to use a gamepad, no ethernet support, and it's inability to fit in my awesome tablet holder w/bt keyboard is really starting to bug me.
I still have the Pixel C sitting in a box ready to be sent. Now I'm having second thoughts. Should I send back the Yoga in favor of the Pixel C?
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* No gamepad support
* No OTG ethernet support
* Halo keyboard very sensitive, just brushing past a key is enough for it to engage
* Won't fit in my 10" tablet holder
I bought the Pixel C and the Yoga Book as I couldn't decide on one or the other. I decided on the Yoga Book but not being able to use a gamepad, no ethernet support, and it's inability to fit in my awesome tablet holder w/bt keyboard is really starting to bug me.
I still have the Pixel C sitting in a box ready to be sent. Now I'm having second thoughts. Should I send back the Yoga in favor of the Pixel C?
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This Gamepad is working fine with mine!
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B019PXVCDQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Works with any other Android 6 Device I tried.
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This Gamepad is working fine with mine!
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B019PXVCDQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Works with any other Android 6 Device I tried.
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Wow. I didn't know that even existed. Buying one tonight. Thanks!
The Halo keyboard is mostly okay for me, though it's never going to replace a proper laptop for typing (I'd hate to try to write a long report with it), but the thing I dislike most about it is the touchpad. It's pretty terrible, so I rarely use it. It's also much too close to the spacebar so it's very easy to accidentaly touch the touchpad while typing and move the cursor somewhere where you don't want it to be.
I cant figure out how to run a proper linux distribution (assuming it's possible). Can't even find a way to boot from USB (if any succeeds please let me know :crying: ) .
I'm getting random reboots all of a sudden on my Android model. It used to do this with an older update, but stopped when I installed the Dec 9 update until today.
Anyone else seeing the same?
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I'm getting random reboots all of a sudden on my Android model. It used to do this with an older update, but stopped when I installed the Dec 9 update until today.
Anyone else seeing the same?
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Can confirm, but for me it got better - I think when installing the December update.
I've discovered a new problem-my password manager, Lastpass, which ties into the accessibility settings to work, keeps getting disabled! (android version)
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I've discovered a new problem-my password manager, Lastpass, which ties into the accessibility settings to work, keeps getting disabled! (android version)
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I was getting the same problem too. A question in the Lastpass FAQ suggested disabling battery optimization for the app, which seems to be working so far. Hopefully it'll stick.
Original reference: https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=9272
I like mine alot except that the left top corner tablet portion's pressure and touch is really really bad And there are couple areas (around f keys) where things get slightly wobbly when drawing.
Btw do not get me wrong but people who use online password managers must be out of there minds!!! They were already hacked, I cant believe that no lessons got learned there ;( Use whatever you want but saving your passwords to cloud just defats the whole purpose of security.
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I like mine alot except that the left top corner tablet portion's pressure and touch is really really bad And there are couple areas (around f keys) where things get slightly wobbly when drawing.
Btw do not get me wrong but people who use online password managers must be out of there minds!!! They were already hacked, I cant believe that no lessons got learned there ;( Use whatever you want but saving your passwords to cloud just defats the whole purpose of security.
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While I agree there's a certain amount of risk with services such as LastPass. Using a strong password and two factor authentication goes some way to mitigating this. I use LastPass and have it configured so only my devices can access my account, any other device is automatically rejected. Plus each time I do log in on my authorized devices, I still need to grant access using an authentication app on my phone. You can also encrypt individual accounts within LastPass using a separate password. So even if your account was compromised, these login details would not be visible.
No two finger scrolling on the touchpad, and the scrolling solution they use is bad because you can't continuously scroll with it
Minor annoyance is if you're trying to do a capital letter you have to hold shift like a traditional keyboard and not like on a Android on screen keyboard.
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* No gamepad support
* No OTG ethernet support
* Halo keyboard very sensitive, just brushing past a key is enough for it to engage
* Won't fit in my 10" tablet holder
I bought the Pixel C and the Yoga Book as I couldn't decide on one or the other. I decided on the Yoga Book but not being able to use a gamepad, no ethernet support, and it's inability to fit in my awesome tablet holder w/bt keyboard is really starting to bug me.
I still have the Pixel C sitting in a box ready to be sent. Now I'm having second thoughts. Should I send back the Yoga in favor of the Pixel C?
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I think you must have done something wrong. because bluetooth gamepads also works with mine. I'm using a Steel series free with good results
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I recently purchased a Nordic Track 9500 Elite Pro. This bad boy has a 10" android tablet built in. They really don't want you messing with the android part much, but I am sure there are plenty of other users out there like me that want to do more!
This is my first post so I am unable to show the pictures via the link. Hopefully you can copy and past the text to view the images. I will try to repost on my website so it all flows.
I don't see where a post like this would go, I am not sure if at some point it would gain it's own device forum... That would be exciting. So for now I will post here. I will also post my initial findings for others in the community that may want to purchase this treadmill and can't find any information regarding the built in Android Tablet with WiFi.
This image shows the version information. From what I can tell it looks like they purchase an APAD from someone and then stick it inside of their device. They also must have wrote some special drivers and software to interface with the equipment and hardware. I was very happy to see a mainstream current android OS.
Android OS 2.2
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Here are the pre-installed apps. Pretty basic. (note: I was able to find an APK and install Last.FM that wasn't included) Also a major bummer to see was that there wasn't a market application.
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This is the typical workout screen you see.
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I also noticed that the device doesn't have very much memory. This could be due to the built in applications taking up so much space. It only had about 57MB of internal memory free, but it had a built in 2GB SD Card. I have not gotten to the point where I have needed to take it apart yet to see if there is a replaceable SD card. I may wait another 5 years for my warranty to end to do that.
I have tried to install some apps but have not had very much luck. The only app that was I was able to install was the Last.FM.
I tried the follow apps, and they didn't install:
1. Market
2. Angry Birds
3. Pandora
Other disappointments:
1. Designed to not be in the Android Interface. They have an application that runs, and makes it tricky to get to the android desktop. It takes about 3 clicks to get from the main workout screen back to the Android Desktop.
2. The screen is not capacitive, it is resistive. I don't know how much more I need to say about that.
3. Only 3 buttons. Back, Menu, Home. Home takes you to their software not the android home screen. Long press on home does nothing.
4. When i go to the desktop the Time is all over the place. I have tried changing settings in every spot possible but something is telling it what time to think it is, occasionally it is correct... Just don't get it.
Even with the disappointments this thing is sweet. I wish i could install more apps, stream videos from a PC over the WiFi connection and stream music from a PC over the WiFi connection. Maybe with the help of the community we will figure some of these items out... Or I will be the only one who has this that knows about this website!
ntsteele,
How is your experience up to now with your 9500? I am looking at getting the c1250, which is the same as the 9500, but with a smaller motor and no decilne. Is the 10" screen worth it? The rep at Nordictrack told me the only differcence between the 7" screen is the web browser, the google maps display, and some basic apps. But overall the workout system is the same as the 7' display of the 1750 commercial and that you can view the google maps by logging in on ifit.com. Thanks for the info and screen shots.
iFit Android App
Have you or has anyone else been able to pull the apk files off of the NordicTrack Elite 9500 Treadmill. I would be interested to see if it works on any adroid phone to view the menu system.
I played with this today at Google IO. The rep said that the integrated tablet was rev 1 and that they wanted to eventually let users connect their own devices.
what do you need to press to get to the android home screen?
Where I work at there is a Proform Trailrunner 4.0 treadmill that has 10" Android tablet screen. From what I have been told nordic track and proform are made by the same manufacture or something. It was returned because of a broken display unit. Of course I wasn't going to let them throw the old one away so they let me keep it. I trashed the main display and now I have the 10" tablet but cannot power it because the treadmill doesn't operate without a magnetic key. How could I power this thing and see if it works?
I got the new incline trainer x9i which has the 10 inch android interface. I am interested to get in and try installing apps as you have but I am unable to even get to the android home screen. The only time I see it is when I turn the machine on and it is booting up, the screen comes up for a few seconds to where I can hit on the applications button and see what is on it. But within a second after I see the apps it automatically gets routed into the machine exercise interface and I have not figured how to get back to the android home screen from there. How did you do it? It would sure be nice to install a different browser. I hate the fact that I cannot create my own shortcuts. Anyway, love the machine.
How to get to the Android Home Screen
Any luck finding out how to get to the Android Home Screen? I am wanting to do that also. I was able to get to it one time accidentally, but haven't figure out how to stop the machine interface from loading since.
Home Screen
Ok, same question. I just got a C2150 which is a similar model to the 9500. Slightly smaller motor and belt, but same basic thing with the 10" tablet. I believe it's capacitive now, but still not great as far as that goes.
I too have hit the setup icon when it's booting and it goes to the Android setup screen for a second and then continues to boot into the Nordictrack IFit proprietary stuff.
So I can't believe the posts with the images and no explanation of how you got there? Please share with the rest of us.
Also, my console has a USB connector at the top of the thing. Any idea what if anything that'll let me do?
Thanks!
Anyone figure this out? Seems a shame to have a 10' screen and not be able to install apps on it. There must be some button combination that the Icon service team would use to stop the auto load of the iFit interface.
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I took the tablet apart to see what information can be gathered. Apparently, HANNSTAR (TAIWAN) manufactures the board (HANNSTAR J MV-7); which uses a Samsung ARM8 CPU(5PV210AH-A0 1044); has 512MB; and a 4GB SANDISK FLASH (SDIN2C2-4G).
I haven't been able to find sufficient info to track a compatible ROM, yet I can't imagine for the life of me that HANNSTAR would design this just for Nordic. I am posting some pics hoping that someone might be able to id the hardware, which in turn might help point to a more fruitful search for a workable ROM.
Try to upload pics but not sure if it worked. It's late, and I can't figure out how to do it smoothly yet.
I'm gonna do another bump. I have a similar treadmill (or maybe the exact same one, I lost the the manual with product name). It is of the X9i series and when I saw it in the store, I had to go for it. I was a bit irritated to see that you are locked to the iFit application and you cannot return to the launcher. I need a male to male USB cable to see if I can get a bit of ADB on it.
From the (crappy) performance of it, I can tell it has about 512 MB RAM, a dated CPU clocked at around 600-800MHz, the screen looks like a crappy TFT display at 1280x700. Lastly, this thing runs Froyo. Mine features a full USB port and an Audio in port. Not much to screw around with. Downloads are disabled in the browser, and the Menu key does nothing.
I think something can be done though. The application that controls the treadmill can't crash as it is, and if it ever does FC, the motor shouldn't stop. NordicTrack doesn't have a recovery image up for some reason (thanks, NordicTrack -_-) so that's even less to work with.
Nevertheless, something can be done. It's not really a fun thing for an Android enthusiast to pick up an Android device with such dated hardware (the tredmill itself, as just tredmill is amazing).. Plus, it was $2,100 at Sears.
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here is a video of the Treadmill and the board;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyf6MHIefk
USB and Audio in is on the right side of the console.
I've had my Nordictrack 9500 Pro for about a year now. Still working well for the most part (I do have messed up deck tension adjuster that I need to call support about).
Would love to be able to unlock the Android device to at least install Netflix, Pandora, etc.
I have had one over the air firmware upgrade that went pretty smoothly. Was hoping more updates would come from Nordictrack, but it has been a long time since that one.
Has anyone else noticed that the Speed Calibration utility under the iFit controls says that it isn't enabled yet? Maybe there's hope for future updates.
fanVrARCHITECT
Greetings,
I have been following this thread as a 9500 owner as well, and looking at what has been posted and see if there is any follow up.
1.) like everyone else what startup combinations may have disabled Nordic Tracks proprietary software.
2.) the usb socket on the top of the console, has anyone had anyluck attempting a usb male to male connection on a laptop? If so what has been tried?
3.) any idea of maybe porting something over via the Ifit updates or account? I noticed the HDvideo inside of the program is pretty descent from what I've seen, and looks like the video plays in the center of main app..just a thought.
I'm looking at getting the male to male usb cable and trying to interface it with the below. .. at least curious if the cable will talk, and most likely this unit is not root so view only but maybe a start if it works.
//www*howtogeek*com/howto/42491/how-to-remote-view-and-control-your-android-phone/
Cheers,
devmo
Did anyone figure out how to get android home screen????
I read somebody was able to email themselves an apk and install it? The tablet enables sideloading? Ding ding ding! I'm going to try sideloading launcherpro or any other replacement launcher to attempt to hijack the home screen
Update: Didn't work on my c2150's tablet. Bastards.... I did however get my c2150's to boot into "safe mode" which I have no idea what that entails. While it was powering on, I held down home and back I believe was the combo.
Update: SUCESS!!! So by booting into "safe" mode, you can hit the preferences launcher while the device is booting to interrupt the ifit loading. From there, go enable unknown sources. Then launch the browser and google "z4 apk" and download it and run it. Did permanent root on mine and it worked.
ENJOY
I forgot. Once you get the device into safe mode, install "smart taskbar" by sideloading. It'll make you able to view a task bar over ifit.
EDIT: Since we don't have a custom recovery, or for that matter even a recovery at all it seems, I've not attempted gapps. Could anyone give a detailed response on how to install this? I assume just unzip it in the root directory? I'm worried about permissions, I always forget what to set there. Also, the device comes pre-bundled with busybox, fyi Another must have for this is adbWireless. I tried editing the init.rc but it seems those changes were for nothing. I'll keep people updated as I discover things etc. I'm by no means a dev, but do know a little.
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I forgot. Once you get the device into safe mode, install "smart taskbar" by sideloading. It'll make you able to view a task bar over ifit.
EDIT: Since we don't have a custom recovery, or for that matter even a recovery at all it seems, I've not attempted gapps. Could anyone give a detailed response on how to install this? I assume just unzip it in the root directory? I'm worried about permissions, I always forget what to set there. Also, the device comes pre-bundled with busybox, fyi Another must have for this is adbWireless. I tried editing the init.rc but it seems those changes were for nothing. I'll keep people updated as I discover things etc. I'm by no means a dev, but do know a little.
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Sorry - can you tell me the exact steps involved here. How do I get to safe mode and then what? I tried Home Back while powering on and it still goes to the ifit screen
You know I'm really not sure what trick it is to make it stay. I had good luck getting it to stay in android rubbing home/back/menu while it booted and as soon as I saw the android home screen, hit the preferences launcher and then grabbed the top menubar and half pulled it down. All I know is that when you get it to stick in android, its always in safe mode which is triggered by some combination of those buttons on boot. Even then it will boot into iFit, but if you go to the settings first, in safe mode, it wont exit that screen.
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Very simple folks. Turn treadmill on and once you see ANDROID appear in the center of the screen, begin pressing the dashes button that is between the home and back buttons on the console. Not sure if holding down works any better. An "unable to load widget" will be seen in middle of screen once the I-FIT software has stopped and safe mode will appear at the lower left hand corner. You'll then be able to check out the various Android options etc for your tablet. Be careful in editing anything unless you know what you are doing! Wouldn't want to brick your treadmill unnecessarily. It took awhile to find the key to safe mode access, due to limited info out there, but I hope users will continue to make some progress on exploiting this device and maybe we'll be able to use it to our liking. I would like to stream my dish television to the tablet like I do on my i phone or i pad. Being able to install the dish app via google app store is what I'm looking forward to. I want to be able to watch tv on my treadmill while exercising. Please keep this thread going! I'm sure that future software updates may allow for a better user interface. The challenge is certainly in the storage capabilities in the tablet itself and the sd card inside.
I feel inconvenience using flyer basic memo app.
Because virtual keyboard pops up suddenly, and note is automatically saved with pause.
Do you think that app is useful?
If you guys are using other note app, please inform me what app it is.
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Well when I still was running the HTC Flyer on Gingerbread, I used notes and someone had a good tip: Press your left hand thumb on the left side of the page (the very left where you can't write on anyway). Just hold the thumb down while you are writing and the keyboard wont come up and also the softbuttons wont trigger eventually.
This actually made the notes app quiet useful.
However - since I mostly annotate pdfs I moved to Honeycomb and use ezpdf in combination with tapeatalk (tapeatalk is the best solution for audio recording anyway since the file is automatically named as a date and even with 3gp the voice recording quality is good - it also never crashes while notes has its problems with multitasking, audio recording, saving and notetaking at the same time).
My suggestion: Move on to Honeycomb - you will find more sophisticated solutions (others also mentioned handwriting recognition with writepad).
Have fun!
i moved on to hc
i'm satisfied with hc! lol
thanks for your advice
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Well when I still was running the HTC Flyer on Gingerbread, I used notes and someone had a good tip: Press your left hand thumb on the left side of the page (the very left where you can't write on anyway). Just hold the thumb down while you are writing and the keyboard wont come up and also the softbuttons wont trigger eventually.
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Cool, although... I wish it could be disabled instead.
I found it useful to use a Null Keyboard. I think there are only a few on the market, one of which is free. You would just enable the null keyboard in settings, long press in HTC Notes and choose the Input Method as the null keyboard. No keyboard would popup if you activate a text cursor. That solution worked better in Gingerbread from what I remember. In Honeycomb, the null keyboard also disabled the pens button, whereas I think you could still access the pens in Gingerbread.
Mind me asking, but are there any folks out that would say that the keyboard popup annoyance is way bigger on Honeycomb compared to Gingerbread? I had a really long meeting on Friday where I constantly fought with the keyboard, and it went a bit better on Gingerbread as far as I remember.
As for the null keyboard. Let's assume it's working the way as intended - wouldn't that mean I'd always had to switch to a full keyboard once I want to use one in a different app (e.g. 'the browser')?
I really use the USP of the Flyer (i.e. the notes option) heavily in my job, so I am keen on getting the keyboard thing solved for once .
I don't think the popup problem is any bigger in Honeycomb, in my experience. I just use the same put-your-finger-on-the-spiral trick that Himmig mentioned earlier, which works maybe 80% of the time.
Yes, you do have to switch back from the null keyboard. It's one-too-many long-presses away for me to be able to call it convenient, but it works OK (again, only in gingerbread). If the null keyboard didn't turn off the pens in honeycomb, it would have been perfect because there is a keyboard-selection panel next to the notification area where you can quickly switch between keyboards. Perhaps this is not the case for all null keyboards?
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I don't think the popup problem is any bigger in Honeycomb, in my experience. I just use the same put-your-finger-on-the-spiral trick that Himmig mentioned earlier, which works maybe 80% of the time.
Yes, you do have to switch back from the null keyboard. It's one-too-many long-presses away for me to be able to call it convenient, but it works OK (again, only in gingerbread). If the null keyboard didn't turn off the pens in honeycomb, it would have been perfect because there is a keyboard-selection panel next to the notification area where you can quickly switch between keyboards. Perhaps this is not the case for all null keyboards?
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This finger trick works like a charm!!
Also, I use the stock note app and even though it is not perfect, it gets the job done very well! I have not used a single sheet of paper since the beginning of this semester.
Even though, the flyer went on sale for 300 last week and I lost 200 bucks, it has been the best money I've spent! I absolutely love this tablet!
Regards.
Hello,
Let me comment also about this subject...
Flyer's most outstanding feature is that pen and it's really hard to understand why HTC was ok with that simple built in Notes (even it's Evernote for HTC) and didn't bring a really powerful note take application to make a full use of the pen.
I don't want to fire any polemics but if this innovation would have been introduced by Apple, you couldn't have imagine how they would promote it with a bundled strong application with it (even paid one). Anyway, this is some other topic...
Now, I also use Notes synched with Evernote but there are some issues. I have a number of notebooks but they aren't fully synched with Evernote. In one sync session say only 3 notebooks, in other 4 but never the all. Second, the well-mentioned keyboard issue. Since I'm left handed the trick didn't work me so well.
Now I'm in HC and using an app called "Antipaper Notes". I liked it very much but the trial version is too limited. I would like to buy the pro version (or "activation" with their wording) but they say it's deactivated say when you flash a custom rom or delete app. So I didn't go for it. But as I told the app is quite well.
I also heard about Quill but didn't have any chance to try it out. I've tried Skitch, a product of Evernote, which is also better for hand notetaking. If you don't have to take a photo or record a sound, these seem to very well.
I expect HTC to make powerful applications for the pen at least for note, sketch and paint. Ok, they've released Pen SDK but still we don't have good bundled SWs.
To sum up,
1. Antipaper Notes (tried, very well but restricted)
2. Skitch (over the average, good note take)
3. Native Notes (don't like that but using)
If you have tried different programs, could you please add up and comment so that we can try?
Thanks.
I can suggest all of you to use tasker to automatically switch between null keyboard in notes and stock/other keyboard in other applications. I have successfully make tasker profile for this task. But you must install secure setting plugin to give tasker access to Android secure setting!
If you use null keyboard in native Notes, there will be no lag even though we used it for speed writing. Just like wacom tablet PC!
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I can suggest all of you to use tasker to automatically switch between null keyboard in notes and stock/other keyboard in other applications. I have successfully make tasker profile for this task. But you must install secure setting plugin to give tasker access to Android secure setting!
If you use null keyboard in native Notes, there will be no lag even though we used it for speed writing. Just like wacom tablet PC!
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That sounds interesting, maybe good to give a try. Btw, are u using GB or HC? I am using HC and wonder if these are compatible with HC. Guess found out when I go home...
Edit: iwansuryo, could you please detail how to create a profile in tasker? I couldn't figure out how to make switch in between apps?
You need the secure setting plug in and null keyboard. Set a task that when notes opens the input method is null keyboard. Make the exit task that the input method is whatever keyboard you use
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avoid keyboard popping up.
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You need the secure setting plug in and null keyboard. Set a task that when notes opens the input method is null keyboard. Make the exit task that the input method is whatever keyboard you use
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here is the trick I use to avoid the keyboard popping up. always ensure the pen is pressured and pressed on the screen before placing the rest of the hand on the screen. once you do that, you can freely move your hand and even lift both your hand and pen off the screen and go back on the screen palm first ( if you do it quickly ) as you would normally when writing. it takes some practice, but it will become second nature in no time. I find it work better than the thumb trick.
The BIGGEST downfall is that handwritting to text is so bad :\
The Lenovo tablet works ok, but it isn't too good of a general note taking app.
I wish the HTC note app supported conversion, would improve it 10X, especially since the majority of note taking I take gets converted into One note text doc.
Basically I intend to buy this as a primary note taking device for lecture for this coming semester and beyond and I have some questions.
Firstly what is the best tablet office apps that work well with the hardware keyboard? I had a play with Polaris in a shop on the original Transformer but I'm just wondering if there is better out there.
It'd be nice if there was like an automatic save every 30 seconds/minute or similar feature.
Also it'd be VERY useful if there was an app that allowed me to open two files at once. So I could, say, have an editable .doc open on one side of the screen and a .ppt on the other...
Secondly how is the physical keyboard? Like I said I played with the Transformer recently and the keyboard seemed pretty nice. A little bit small but something I could get used to/fast on.
Might add more if I think of them.
Thanks, G.
Don't have keyboard so can't speak to that but for office apps I like Google docs and smart office
smart office is a lot better and is very good sure you will like it
tylermaciaszek said:
Don't have keyboard so can't speak to that but for office apps I like Google docs and smart office
smart office is a lot better and is very good sure you will like it
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I nabbed the Smart Office APK in the Getjar $0 sale and it seems decent on my phone, does it have a tablet interface?
See I would love to use Google Docs but I heard it requires internet to work and due to the way my university's WiFi security is I'll only be able to use internet with apps that support proxy routing (as Android doesn't have this built in to the OS).
Yes the tablet interface is very nice I like it a lot
tylermaciaszek said:
Yes the tablet interface is very nice I like it a lot
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Thanks for the screenshots!
Is it possible to have the edit option on screen always/in easy use?
I'll be keen to change formatting to underline/bold/italics etc quite often.
Also, how quickly can one jump in and out of list options?
EDIT: also how quickly can one "tab" in an indent and then get back out of it?
I would say for what you want this may not be for you
edit bar does not stay open but jumping into options is just a press of button
For you, you may want documents to go or office suite 5 I read good reviews of those
tylermaciaszek said:
I would say for what you want this may not be for you
edit bar does not stay open but jumping into options is just a press of button
For you, you may want documents to go or office suite 5 I read good reviews of those
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Thanks.
Anyone else have input? Specific to my needs if possible
I had an original transformer, just got my prime yesterday.
I used my tf last two semesters for all my classes.
I usually use the pre-loaded supernote app to take notes. It takes kb input and you can draw as well (useful for science classes).
my teachers give us power point lecture slides and for that the polaris office is pretty good, I haven't tried the other office apps, but polaris should do most of what you throw at it.
Some of my teachers give pdf lecture notes, I use repligo reader to annotate on pdf.
Sent from my Galaxy S2
Just gonna bump this in the hope that someone can direct me to something that might help me more.
This PDF annotation software will help as I need to deal with a lot of case law etc.
I'm guessing that there is nothing out there currently that supports having two documents open at once side by side as I said above?
Main requirement would be snappy formatting (Bold/Underline/Italic), can this be done in Polaris with CTRL+B/U/I?.
Also the list thing, I know it's not automatic when tabbing like in Word but an easy/quick to use button is fine.
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Just gonna bump this in the hope that someone can direct me to something that might help me more.
This PDF annotation software will help as I need to deal with a lot of case law etc.
I'm guessing that there is nothing out there currently that supports having two documents open at once side by side as I said above?
Main requirement would be snappy formatting (Bold/Underline/Italic), can this be done in Polaris with CTRL+B/U/I?.
Also the list thing, I know it's not automatic when tabbing like in Word but an easy/quick to use button is fine.
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no, there is currently no way of running two apps at the same time, it's a limitation of all mobile based OS's, everything essentially runs in full screen mode.
the CTRL commands should work fine, i'm pretty sure i used them for various things on my tf101.
Are any of these aforementioned office suit apps compatible with odt (OpenOffice format)?
adiliyo said:
no, there is currently no way of running two apps at the same time, it's a limitation of all mobile based OS's, everything essentially runs in full screen mode.
the CTRL commands should work fine, i'm pretty sure i used them for various things on my tf101.
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It's not about running two apps at once. It's about one app having two files open at once.
Say a word document on the left and then a powerpoint on the right.
I doubted it'd be available. Maybe it'll come.
I'm looking to be able to use my Galaxy Tab as a second PC display. I've been searching for hours for a way to set this up and I've found a few solutions, but so far they've all been lacking. I'm hoping others might have some experience or thoughts on the subject. Here's what I tried or looked into so far:
iDisplay - Available on the Market. So far about the only solution that works, but it's god awful slow. If you try to use a browser with a couple tabs open, it practically stands still. It also disables Aero on Windows 7.
Screenslider - Available on the Market. Disables Aero. Doesn't like web browsing, FF and IE won't redraw when clicking anything (links, Java objects, tabs, etc).
Air Display - Available on the Market. Disables Aero and DirectX. This one was extremely responsive, but you just can't do anything on it. Not compatible with FF9 or later and can't handle dynamic web content.
Remote View - Available on the Market. Disables Aero and Background. Honestly, I don't even remember why this one didn't work. Pretty sure browsers just froze. Have to jump through hoops on their website to even get the server.
Splashtop XDisplay - iOS only. Looks like it would be perfect, but it's not on Android yet. They said they were working on it 6 months go, so I'm not holding my breath.
Virtual display + a VNC connection - This is the most promising, so far. The idea is to use software to create a virtual display that's normally hidden, then use a VNC server (that can deal with individual displays) to send that extra display to a VNC viewer on the Android device. It seems like this would be the most responsive, plus you shouldn't lose Aero or specific applications since you're essentially just sending out a video stream (I think). Some apps even combine the virtual display and VNC server into one. In reality, actually setting this up has been a royal PITA (due in no small part to my complete lack of experience with this sort of thing).
Other Android RDP or VNC apps that have this sort of functionality built in - ?
So, has anyone actually accomplished this, or have any interest in figuring it out?
I'm looking for a similar application for my Galaxy Note's display. I want to use it as a live display tablet for Photoshop. I tried iDisplay and Remote View. Both were too slow to update phone display. iDisplay also BSODs my Samsung laptop (primary work machine), so it's not a viable solution. I could always use my phone as a regular tablet (one that just moves a cursor on screen), but hey, it'd be cool to have!
Virtual display+VNC? Sounds too contrived, but I'll try to read up and figure out how to get it running. If that's as responsive as a regular display, I'll post the method here.
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I'm looking for a similar application for my Galaxy Note's display. I want to use it as a live display tablet for Photoshop. I tried iDisplay and Remote View. Both were too slow to update phone display. iDisplay also BSODs my Samsung laptop (primary work machine), so it's not a viable solution. I could always use my phone as a regular tablet (one that just moves a cursor on screen), but hey, it'd be cool to have!
Virtual display+VNC? Sounds too contrived, but I'll try to read up and figure out how to get it running. If that's as responsive as a regular display, I'll post the method here.
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i guess it didnt work..
Personally, I never went back and gave it another shot. Still think the VNC thing will work well with some effort.
Hi all,
Hope I'm posting this in the right place. If not, please move.
I have Remix_OS_for_PC_Android_M_64bit_B2016072603 installed as a virtual guest in Virtualbox 5.0.24_Ubuntu r1083 with Xubuntu-core 16.04 as the host machine. Using a Toshiba Satellite Pro L510. Took me four days to nut out how to get to this point, but installed and booting and stable now.
My issues:
1/ Location: When I try to run an app from Play Store it thinks I'm outside of Australia/New Zealand (the app I'm trying to run is specific to those regions). I'm in Australia, the app works fine on my phone (am logging in exactly the same way).
(* Update: I installed GPS Status and it tells me GPS is not switched on. Was hoping to then change the location with Fake GPS, which I also installed. It won't do anything with same message: GPS not enabled or similar.)
2/ Resolution: The screen defaults to portrait, as expected I suppose, but I have a 1366x768 monitor and it doesn't fit in the screen. Consequently, I have a scroll bar because as Virtualbox Guest Additions is not compatible with Remix OS at this point there is no mouse integration (I need to hit Right Control to use mouse in host and same to use in guest again). I need to press a bunch of keys to just scroll the screen up and get back to where I was going. :|
Other than that, all working great, Remix OS is great, thanks to the team that created it. The main reason I was wanting to use it is to use this one app on my computer (AFL Live) and plug my computer into the TV. I don't use my phone for anything other than that one app, SMS and the occasional call so I am by no means an Android junky. In fact, before this, I knew very little about it (but a lot about Linux/Ubuntu).
This install has been a quest, a learning curve, and these are my last two hurdles so I'm calling for help if it's out there. Trawled the net, tried some things, but have hit a brick wall with these two problems.
My first post so not sure of the protocol. If these two issues should be the subject of two separate threads, mods please advise and I will edit accordingly and create a new thread.
Tnx in advance.
(* Further update: Just having a read of this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/remix/remix-os/remix-os-installation-rooting-t3293769
Wondering if rooting the device would allow me to change any of these, in particularly, the location to Australia where it should be, or switch on GPS so my app can see where I actually am. I'm presuming it thinks I am in the Cocos Islands or somewhere else!)
(* And further update: The screen resolution was as easy as typing Alt+F1 to launch a terminal then 'wm size 1366x768'. That looked terrible, though, so changed it to 1048x768 (from memory) and it is good enough, though not perfect. I may be able to get closer with further tweaking. Now the last, and most important, hurdle to leap: How do I get Remix OS, and more specifically my AFL app, to know I'm in Australia. Frustration. It's taken about ten days, on and off, to get here and still not quite where I want to be, but hopefully my travails can help someone else along the way ...)
Gave up on it. If anyone comes up with a way of running Remix OS in Virtualbox and setting the location, please post. Guestadditions would probably fix it and maybe one day ROS will be compatible with it.
On the other hand, I did learn a lot more about Android than I cared to know, but am now thinking about buying my first ever Android tablet to do the job with a USB/HDMI adapter.