I have a 2 USB port car charger made by capdase in my car.
It outputs 1A, so its around 0.5A each port.
Yesterday I ran out of battery and had only 15%, so while driving I plugged it to the charger.
While talking the phone, it still went down to 14% and it took a long time till it managed to gain some percents. During that time only a voice call was made.
And I was only making a voice call....
So during 1 hour drive, I only gained about 10%.
Now Im about to go for a 1 week trip where I'll be massively using my phone as a GPS and I wonder if it'll even make it through the day.
What would you suggest me to do?
Maybe should I use a different kind of charger? would it make any difference..?
I hope to hear your opinion,
Thanks.
I've heard others having similar problem while using power hungry applications while charging, the power supplied by charger isn't enough to run the device so battery has to pitch in as well.
I use a car charger that claims 1 amp output (single port) and it will charge (albeit slower) while I play graphic heavy games.
jzmtl said:
I've heard others having similar problem while using power hungry applications while charging, the power supplied by charger isn't enough to run the device so battery has to pitch in as well.
I use a car charger that claims 1 amp output (single port) and it will charge (albeit slower) while I play graphic heavy games.
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Same here, i use a belkin 1 Amp charger in my car connected to my Brodit holder.
While using Navigon and before Sygic nav. both where charging.
Does it really supply 1A to the device?
because when I used my capdase with a battery monitor widget, it would receive a current of max 0.5A, and usually less than that...(I guess due to battery drain)
is this the one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BELKIN-USB-...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item25674e8ada
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Does it really supply 1A to the device?
because when I used my capdase with a battery monitor widget, it would receive a current of max 0.5A, and usually less than that...(I guess due to battery drain)
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The stock AC charger output is 1 amp, so it must take more than 0.5 amp.
my charger is a traveler charger, it gives 0.7A :s
I hope that belkin is good, i'll give it a try..its cheap so I dont mind testing
Same here
Using navigation on my trip to greece, and putting a phone on USB charger from car power supply, battery was draining, not charging. so, I used navigation, than when driving 50 km on highway i switched off navigation in order to get some energy, and then again turn it on before I need it (I was watching at my km scale, ).
The problem is nearly always not what the charger can supply, but whether the charger complies with the new USB charging standard which shorts d+ to d- to indicate it is a high capacity charger rather than a typical PC USB port trickle charge.
You can determine if your charger is compliant by plugging it into the phone and choosing settings, about, status, and see if the phone indicates "charging (AC)" or "charging (USB)". If AC, the phone will take 800mA, if USB, probably more like only 300mA.
I just took a look at my Better Battery Stats info and noticed a bluetooth and pbap related wakelock. As you can see 51 minutes, over 3 events. This is invariably during my commute.
I currently have my car stereo set up to access my phonebook from the phone rather than store the phonebook in the stereo. I have a theory that this scenario is battery intensive. I'll test this by placing my phonebook in the stereos memory.
Were you using bluetooth during your trip? Is your phonebook stored in the bluetooth device or does the bluetooth device access it through your phone?
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I noticed that my phone will not charge the battery if it is too hot (30 degrees?). So if you drive with your phone exposed to the direct sun then it will probably not going to charge the battery or reduce the charging current.
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hi guys.
im trying to build a charger for the tytn that would charge from a 9v battery rather than using the wall charger so that i can use the tytn when im trekking (which i do a lot).
ive used a 7805 linear regulator to pull down the output voltage of the 9v battery to 5v @ 1 amp as specified on the wall charger. ive also hacked the mini usb cable to short pins 4 and 5 so that the tytn draws power from the battery pack.
the problem i face is this:
the tytn does seem to draw power from the battery pack and charges from 90% to 100% in a matter of minutes. but once the battery meter goes below 90%, no matter how long i connect the tytn to the charger it refuses to charge. but the indicator light stays orange (or amber) and the battery status says its charging, but still the tytn continues to lose power over time. any ideas why this is happening? or what i am doing wrong? any help would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance!
My guess is that you are trying to use a PP3 type small rectangular 9v battery. If so you will find that the battery can't supply enough current to charge the unit. If you look in the Magician forum here this seems a much better alternative, as a decent set of NiMh AA batteries can supply 2700mAh, which should be more than enough to charge your TyTn.
thanks man! will try it out tomoro.. did that before i hacked the cable.. havent tried since... will do it and post what happens.! cheers
nope! it still doesnt work
i tried connecting 4 1.2v NiMH batteries directly to the hacked usb cable and the orange led comes on and the battery status says charging... but still it loses charge.
i also tired using 4 AA alkaline batteries with a diode to pull down the o/p voltage and the results are same as the above...
the AA battery pack output was 5.2v @ ~1.2A which is pretty much the same as the wall charger
I got this: http://www.boxwave.com/products/batteryadapter/index.htm
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but it barely charges TyTN, very slowly. Is TyTN that power hungry? I don't know. Been using 4x2700mAh.
damn!
well there must be something im doing wrong! i cant figure out what though... it cant be the input voltages or the current.. and the cable i use is the one with pins 4 and 5 shorted.. why the hell doesnt it work???
can anyone help me? point me in the right direction????
My TyTN did charge some but faster in the beginning and soon almost stopped charging, maybe the voltage drops as batteries drain and TyTN doesn't like that or maybe 4x2700mAh is still way too small for TyTN.
alright that might have been the reason, so this is my workaround.
i connected 2 9V batteries in parallel with the set 4 1.2V NiMHs.. after passing this through a diode i get an output voltage of around 5.3V @ 1.3A.
the connection in parallel helps maintain the voltage of the battery pack at a level more than that of the tytn and prolong the time for a voltage drain.. so in theory the tytn should atleast jump from say 60% to 70% and the diode should prevent the tytn from charging the battery pack.
inspite of all this, the result remains unchanged! tytn led glows orange, battery status is charging and the phone loses charge!
what the hell is happening here?!?!?!
check this out:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/mobility-site-news/211196-gomadic-pack-light.html#post1522281
When I go away and don't have ready access to power (camping etc.) I use one of these Clicky.
I have found they work fine. Only thing I would say is that the 3 to 5 charge cycles is optimistic, I find I get about 2 charges out of a set of 4 batteries.
as far as I remember the 7805 is a 1A max voltage regulator, I would suggest trying the 78S05 - same pinout, 2A version, it seems to be the delivered current which affects charge rates on the phones.
or you can put in paralel on a heatsink few 7805's. Don't count on 1A for 7805, is gonna die quick, be more conservative )
Hi,
My Atrix does not have any Problems with charging when connected to my PC, but it just wont detect the external Battery i own.
It shows no reaction, when the Battery is plugged in via USB and then turned on.
When the phone is off and the battery is connected and turned on, the phone will boot, but still not charge.
I was trying to find out why the Phone won't accept the Battery so I measured the outgoing Voltage: 6,3 V
Note: 2 out of 2 other phones (1 running Android) detected the battery and charged from it without any issues.
The external Battery was really expensive since it comes with a large solar panel to charge it, so I really ought to get this to work!
Does anyone have any Idea what I can do to force my phone into USB-charging mode? Or how to make it detect the battery?
Greetings,
XxHunterxX
(running 2.3.4 with Gentop, rooted, unlocked)
I know
And I tested today. You must put resistor about 200OHM or just short data pins (2 and 3) in your charger or cable. I really recommend to put resistor. Interested thing is that after phone is connected you can remove resistor and charging will continue.
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Thank you VERY much for your effort!
Why wouldn't you recommend just shortening D+ and D- on the Type-A-side? what could happen? Wouldn't that just make the resistance infinitively high?
Also, Why does it work with other phones, if it's the battery's / cable's fault?
I know those are a lot of questions, but I would really apreciate it if you took the time to answer them.
Greetings,
XxHunterxX
Edit: just realised I misunderstood Zeljko. I thought by "short data pins" he meant to clip them off so they couldn't connect to the device
Of course he meant short circuiting them^^
Because shorting electronic circuit could damage it. Better safe than sorry. I tested today and even 330kOhm works.
Other phones obviously doesn't care about data pins. Probably Motorola wish to protect phone from low quality third party chargers.
I followed your advice and soldered a 200 Ohm resistor between D+ and D- coming from the Mirco-USB-side.
I just insulated the D+ and D- of the Type-A-USB-side
I actually followed a REALLY useful (German) Guide for things of this type: Sorry It appears I can't post links...
Sadly, I can't test wether it works at the moment, because my phone is being repaired (touchscreen broken).
If you are interested I can tell you wether it works, as soon as I get my phone back.
regards,
XxHunterxX
I know it works, I tested by myself
Could you send me link? I think you can post link around code tag or picture or just figure out somehow
Is your charger a Minty Boost? I have a Minty Boost and it always over heats when i try to charge my Atrix :\
:EDIT: Also I tried shorting out D+ and D- with no avail. It charges but quickly overheats
heyitsaustin123 said:
Is your charger a Minty Boost? I have a Minty Boost and it always over heats when i try to charge my Atrix :\
:EDIT: Also I tried shorting out D+ and D- with no avail. It charges but quickly overheats
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It's cheap chinese charger. I just used it once for testing and I didn't noticed any overheats. I bought it for cycling but I'm traveling a lot and unfortunately I don't have time for long ride.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/28085135538...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_8694wt_1396
heyitsaustin123 said:
Is your charger a Minty Boost? I have a Minty Boost and it always over heats when i try to charge my Atrix :\
:EDIT: Also I tried shorting out D+ and D- with no avail. It charges but quickly overheats
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If your charger overheats then the worst you can do is short the D+ and D-!
Because then your phone will detect it as a charger and will draw not only 500mA, but even more so your charger will overheat even faster.
You should probably just buy a charger that isn't so cheap
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
skrypj said:
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
NLBeev said:
The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
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I spend a lot of time making short trips in my car, jumping in and out for meetings, and it would be nice to have this feature to get my phone charged back up in the 10 or 15 minutes I might have. I am not so much worried about whether or not the charger can charge the phone over long periods as I am typically just navigating or streaming Bluetooth. If I was using the 500ma ports built into the car then that would be another story.
Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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. . . Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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Sorry but I did not mean the 12 volt outlet, but a USB outlet. Many people here in NL are using usb-adapters in the sigaret lighter outlet. Many USB adapter are max 250mA at 5 volt
As far as I can see every charger will be good as long as the capacity is at least 1A at 5 volt.
skrypj said:
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
I have the quick charger from vzw and have had no issues with it. Ya the phone gets warm, and it lives in a case. Still no issues.
artesea said:
I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
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Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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This is the one I have. I have only used it a few times but I have had zero issues with it. It seems to charge just as fast as the stock house charger in my opinion. It also has a notification light that lights up blue when it is plugged in / has power and green when it is actually charging your device. Kind of handy imo. I mainly went with this one because of it actually being "Qualcomm Certified" or whatever.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VH...ar+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=415UvP5jebL&ref=plSrch
This is the cable I got to go with it. It appears to be very nice and of high quality. I don't like being on a short leash.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SU...+usb+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=31ynDmfEZZL&ref=plSrch
I was looking for a quick charge 2.0 car charger on amazon, and ran into a little Bluetooth fm transmitter that you plug into the cigarette lighter. It has 2 usb ports both 2.1a (21W, 4.2A)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010ZOK1Q8/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The reviews on it seem outstanding
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This is the one i'm rocking and love it
I also got a couple of blitzwolf chargers and they work great as well.
I use this and it works great....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R3XIKXQ
As for the heat issue, I don't think the the phone will get THAT much hotter using this than it would with a standard charger. I think the majority of heat issues in a car scenario are a result of a combination of (A) having the phone mounted where the sun is shining on it and (B) having the screen on continuously (if navigating). The best way to combat this, in my opinion, is to find a phone holder that attaches to (or around) your car's vent. That way when you have your A/C on on hot days, it will keep the phone cool. It sounds silly but it works surprisingly well (Note: I've never had much issue with any of my phones getting too hot in the winter when this A/C method wouldn't really work).
I'd suggest looking into ProClip mounts... at least for my car and my previous car, they had an option that positioned the mount directly over a vent...
Note: If you are curious about the foam/tape, it's because I have a universal holder and not a Nexus 6 specific holder. The universal is not a great fit for the odd contours of the Nexus 6 so I added some foam.
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skrypj said:
Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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Definitely an awesome charger! I grabbed it on a similar deal!
I recently bought the Anker Quick Charge 3.0 39W Dual USB Car Charger (Amazon link below) and, while my Pixel will charge at regular speed when plugged in, I cannot get Quick Charging to activate. I've tried multiple USB-C cables (one that came with the Pixel as well as a separate one I bought) in both of the charger's USB ports, but to no avail. The Quick Charging feature works when plugged into a compatible wall outlet (using the same cables) so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or just have a faulty charger. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to proceed would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks very much.
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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Thanks very much for the reply. That makes sense.
Is there a compatible car charger that activates the Pixel's QC feature? Or could it be charging at the maximum rate and perhaps just not showing the "Charging Rapidly" notification? Just trying to figure out if I should keep or return this charger.
Thanks again.
goodwidp said:
Thanks very much for the reply. That makes sense.
Is there a compatible car charger that activates the Pixel's QC feature? Or could it be charging at the maximum rate and perhaps just not showing the "Charging Rapidly" notification? Just trying to figure out if I should keep or return this charger.
Thanks again.
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Sorry mate, I honestly not sure but i think you can track the voltage by apps like Ampere
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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I'm sorry man but youre wrong.
I have the same charger in my car. I plug my pixel into it on my way from work to school usually at 30% and as soon as I do it'll charge rapidly and it'll state on the lockscreen that it's charging rapidly. By the time I reach school (it's only 30 mins away) the pixel is at 75-80%
So yes this should rapidly charge your pixel as it rapidly charges mine from day one.
You may have to check the voltage output going to that outlet in the car, it may just need to be recalibrated. Older cars tend to loose some voltage power. ( I know from experience in my last car)
The cable quality can also affect charging current. Download Ampere (its free). Get a decent cable recommended by Benson. It makes a huge difference in charging current and hence, speed.
Check here for good cables:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
indyzzzz said:
The cable quality can also affect charging current. Download Ampere (its free). Get a decent cable recommended by Benson. It makes a huge difference in charging current and hence, speed.
Check here for good cables:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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Yeah always use a cable with superb quality. I use the reg usb to usbc in the car.
If you need a USB c to USB c I recommend buying one at the Apple store. Their cables are approved for the pixel and are great quality.
If you're still looking for a auto charger, you want want one that support Power delivery 2.0 not Quick Charge 2/3.0
This is the one I use.
Amazon Link
Thanks very much to everyone for the helpful replies.
Surprisingly, the situation seems to have sorted itself out over the past week as the charger is now activating the quick charging when in use. It's not quite as strong as a wall outlet (see Ampere pics below), but it's still pretty quick and I now see the "Charging Rapidly" notification when plugged in (though it takes a few seconds to display). It really wasn't showing that notification when I first tried the charger and opened this thread, so I'm not sure what caused the change, but I'm satisfied with the charger so I'll keep it.
Here are screenshots of Ampere showing the max charging rate for both the car and wall outlet (one that came w/ Pixel) after being plugged in for 20-30 min. Is it normal that the car charger's max rate is slightly slower than the wall? Thanks again, all. I sincerely appreciate the help and info.
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May I have the link of amper from play store. searched, but got several apps.
goodwidp said:
Thanks very much to everyone for the helpful replies.
Surprisingly, the situation seems to have sorted itself out over the past week as the charger is now activating the quick charging when in use. It's not quite as strong as a wall outlet (see Ampere pics below), but it's still pretty quick and I now see the "Charging Rapidly" notification when plugged in (though it takes a few seconds to display). It really wasn't showing that notification when I first tried the charger and opened this thread, so I'm not sure what caused the change, but I'm satisfied with the charger so I'll keep it.
Here are screenshots of Ampere showing the max charging rate for both the car and wall outlet (one that came w/ Pixel) after being plugged in for 20-30 min. Is it normal that the car charger's max rate is slightly slower than the wall? Thanks again, all. I sincerely appreciate the help and info.
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May I have the link of amper from play store. searched, but got several apps.
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Here's the one you want:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en
Anker Quick Charge 3.0 39W Dual USB Car Charger, PowerDrive Speed 2 for Google Pixel. It charges devices up to 80% in just 35 minutes. It is enough power to charge power-hungry USB devices at full speed. It is also ultra-compact build, twin USB ports, soft LED light, and carbon-fiber mesh ensure maximum convenience and a sleek finish.
Hello, I just got this phone a couple of days ago, basically i migrated from a OnePlus 6 to this Nord 2 and I'm liking it very much so far for the price all things considered, tedious bugs and all.
The gist of it, is it normal for it to charge this slow? I'm using my old 20w dash charge adapter, because imported it from the UK, it came with said adapter and my country does not support that kind of wall plug outlet and I refuse to use an adapter/extender because it won't stick to the wall it's just too heavy.
Did some reading, and I disabled optimized night charging/high performance mode. I figured using an old adapter would be slower than the new one, but are those readings normal?
Also i noticed the Warp Charge animation appears on lock screen but just the blue bubble then it disappears, no Warp Charge logo.
I plan on getting both wall and car warp chargers, in the meantime I'll be using my regular 20w dash chargers.
Thanks in advance.
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I can at least confirm that the original second (and last?) generation carplug (12V charger) is also veeeeeeeeeeery slow. It takes at least 2,5 hours from 0 to 100. The 230V plug charges 0-100 in exactly 29 minutes
You need S-VOC/DASH/WARP charger.
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I can at least confirm that the original second (and last?) generation carplug (12V charger) is also veeeeeeeeeeery slow. It takes at least 2,5 hours from 0 to 100. The 230V plug charges 0-100 in exactly 29 minutes
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I'm getting 500mA (2.5W USB base current) when asleep, and 1A (5W) when awake. It's definitely buggy, should always pull 1A even when the screen is off. The phone doesn't seem to have PD, so there's no way to get 15/18W on ordinary PD charger.
Remember that accubattery only reads from a single cell of your battery;
The OPN2 has 2 cells and charges both simultaneously, so it's likely accubattery is only reporting half speed, to one cell, and isn't detecting charge to the other cell, which is half of the battery in this case.
For example, accubattery will likely report your battery health/capacity is only 50% (more often lower), because each cell is 2250 mah, and the total advertised design capacity of the OPN2 is 4500 mah, but is really 2250 mah per cell, and has 2 cells.
This is part of oneplus's warp charge technology, which is really just a rebrand of their sister company's, but it's essentially a 32.5w charge to both cells, which is much easier than providing 65w to a single cell.
Also, do note warp charge only works with the official red cable and the official oneplus charger provided in the box, as the charging circuit in the cable and charger will limit your speed with third party charger/cables as they have not been verified to handle these charging speeds.
Funnily enough even if you have an OPPO cable and charger, which utilizes the same technology, warp charge on oneplus phones still won't activate and it'll charge at a much slower 20w (10w per cell)
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Funnily enough even if you have an OPPO cable and charger, which utilizes the same technology, warp charge on oneplus phones still won't activate and it'll charge at a much slower 20w (10w per cell)
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VOOC 2.0 (20W 5V/4A) vs S-VOOC 2.0 (65W 10V/6.5A). The OS reported current is always current over both cells, whether it be parallel or in series depends on VOOC version.