I recently bought the Anker Quick Charge 3.0 39W Dual USB Car Charger (Amazon link below) and, while my Pixel will charge at regular speed when plugged in, I cannot get Quick Charging to activate. I've tried multiple USB-C cables (one that came with the Pixel as well as a separate one I bought) in both of the charger's USB ports, but to no avail. The Quick Charging feature works when plugged into a compatible wall outlet (using the same cables) so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or just have a faulty charger. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to proceed would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks very much.
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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Thanks very much for the reply. That makes sense.
Is there a compatible car charger that activates the Pixel's QC feature? Or could it be charging at the maximum rate and perhaps just not showing the "Charging Rapidly" notification? Just trying to figure out if I should keep or return this charger.
Thanks again.
goodwidp said:
Thanks very much for the reply. That makes sense.
Is there a compatible car charger that activates the Pixel's QC feature? Or could it be charging at the maximum rate and perhaps just not showing the "Charging Rapidly" notification? Just trying to figure out if I should keep or return this charger.
Thanks again.
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Sorry mate, I honestly not sure but i think you can track the voltage by apps like Ampere
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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I'm sorry man but youre wrong.
I have the same charger in my car. I plug my pixel into it on my way from work to school usually at 30% and as soon as I do it'll charge rapidly and it'll state on the lockscreen that it's charging rapidly. By the time I reach school (it's only 30 mins away) the pixel is at 75-80%
So yes this should rapidly charge your pixel as it rapidly charges mine from day one.
You may have to check the voltage output going to that outlet in the car, it may just need to be recalibrated. Older cars tend to loose some voltage power. ( I know from experience in my last car)
The cable quality can also affect charging current. Download Ampere (its free). Get a decent cable recommended by Benson. It makes a huge difference in charging current and hence, speed.
Check here for good cables:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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The cable quality can also affect charging current. Download Ampere (its free). Get a decent cable recommended by Benson. It makes a huge difference in charging current and hence, speed.
Check here for good cables:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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Yeah always use a cable with superb quality. I use the reg usb to usbc in the car.
If you need a USB c to USB c I recommend buying one at the Apple store. Their cables are approved for the pixel and are great quality.
If you're still looking for a auto charger, you want want one that support Power delivery 2.0 not Quick Charge 2/3.0
This is the one I use.
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Thanks very much to everyone for the helpful replies.
Surprisingly, the situation seems to have sorted itself out over the past week as the charger is now activating the quick charging when in use. It's not quite as strong as a wall outlet (see Ampere pics below), but it's still pretty quick and I now see the "Charging Rapidly" notification when plugged in (though it takes a few seconds to display). It really wasn't showing that notification when I first tried the charger and opened this thread, so I'm not sure what caused the change, but I'm satisfied with the charger so I'll keep it.
Here are screenshots of Ampere showing the max charging rate for both the car and wall outlet (one that came w/ Pixel) after being plugged in for 20-30 min. Is it normal that the car charger's max rate is slightly slower than the wall? Thanks again, all. I sincerely appreciate the help and info.
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May I have the link of amper from play store. searched, but got several apps.
goodwidp said:
Thanks very much to everyone for the helpful replies.
Surprisingly, the situation seems to have sorted itself out over the past week as the charger is now activating the quick charging when in use. It's not quite as strong as a wall outlet (see Ampere pics below), but it's still pretty quick and I now see the "Charging Rapidly" notification when plugged in (though it takes a few seconds to display). It really wasn't showing that notification when I first tried the charger and opened this thread, so I'm not sure what caused the change, but I'm satisfied with the charger so I'll keep it.
Here are screenshots of Ampere showing the max charging rate for both the car and wall outlet (one that came w/ Pixel) after being plugged in for 20-30 min. Is it normal that the car charger's max rate is slightly slower than the wall? Thanks again, all. I sincerely appreciate the help and info.
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May I have the link of amper from play store. searched, but got several apps.
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Here's the one you want:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en
Anker Quick Charge 3.0 39W Dual USB Car Charger, PowerDrive Speed 2 for Google Pixel. It charges devices up to 80% in just 35 minutes. It is enough power to charge power-hungry USB devices at full speed. It is also ultra-compact build, twin USB ports, soft LED light, and carbon-fiber mesh ensure maximum convenience and a sleek finish.
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Hey guys I'm looking for a car charger that will charge the phone while running google navigation. The current one I have cannot keep up. Basically the phone is using more battery than the charger is supplying so eventually even though it's charging it will die. Please help with some suggestions.
The higher the output amps the better, most online don't say.
This one has a 1A (1000 mA) which is the highest I've seen until now.
http://www.cellphoneshop.net/2usbcar.html
This says 2.1A.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004U4RF7I...e=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B004U4RF7I
Here's one that has 1 of each (1A & 2.1A):
http://www.scosche.com/consumer-tech/product/1921
You need to be careful about using one too high for the phone as well.
The output of the wall charger that comes with the phone is 1A. Find an USB car charger that outputs 1A and you should be fine.
This will run Pandora&Navigation at the same time and still charge,but not by much. But a least it doesn't discharge.
*LINK*
The phones are only meant to charge up so fast. once you attempt to go over that limit, you risk causing damage to your phone. don't look for something with so much power it charges it in 20 minutes. it will kill the phone and battery.
Is 2.1A safe from charging phones?
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I doubt the phone will charge any faster even if you get a 2A charger, but there are many chargers that only charge the phone half as fast as you possibly could. Some chargers only provide 0.5A (500mA, conforming to the PC USB spec) and some 1A chargers will only provide 0.5A because of the pin out on the connector plug... You can tell this is happening if under battery stats in settings it says it's charging from USB instead of AC. You could short some pins on said chargers to fix that but it's usually easier to find a proper one for $3 or whatever.
Even if you have a 1A charger you could manage to discharge faster than it charges if you're streaming music while using navigation for a while and/or you happen to be in a low signal area (which eats battery like crazy since the radio goes wild trying to find a better signal/tower).
I have the one in the link below. It is OEM HTC for the Thunderbolt, and has
2x 1A Ports. It keeps up with
Pandora and GMaps. My old charger would not (it was 500mA.) The cool thing is that both ports are 1A in a small form factor, and it has a white LED that illuminates them. It comes with a coiled cord which is well built.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003OQUJRQ/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
Swyped using 2 cores and 3 Ds
I have the Motorola one, and it keeps up, and charges fast.
This one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S5Q9CA
my tom tom universal one is the only one that ive found to come out at exactly 1A - 1.2A measured via current widget...
All the other brand 1A's sit at 350 - 600ma
I get about 0 - 150ma normal with Google Navigation and Power Amp playing flacs
I get about 500 - 780ma with Tom Tom with Google Navigation and Power Amp playing flacs
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Hey guys I'm looking for a car charger that will charge the phone while running google navigation. The current one I have cannot keep up. Basically the phone is using more battery than the charger is supplying so eventually even though it's charging it will die. Please help with some suggestions.
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Check out this thread from the OG EVO Accessories. Good info on car chargers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861055&highlight=car+chargers
I have this:
Monoprice.com Car Charger (Cigarette Lighter to USB Female Converter) #6766, 1000mA
and a cheap 3 foot USB cable from Monoprice also and it will charge while on 4G, Google Navigation and Pandora playing
runcool said:
The phones are only meant to charge up so fast. once you attempt to go over that limit, you risk causing damage to your phone. don't look for something with so much power it charges it in 20 minutes. it will kill the phone and battery.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. The rating indicates the maximum current the charger is capable of. The phone will decide how much to draw.
Actually, the high rating is not enough. The charger should have a certain circuitry ( a resistor between data pins) to "tell" phone that it can supply higher current. 2.1A iPad charger doesn't have it because it was designed to communicate with iGadgets. It will act like a regular 500mA charger when connected to an Android phone.
A lot of the 1amp chargers that you see will still only charge your phone at 500ma. Unless USB pins 2 and 3 are shorted together (or have less then 200 ohms between pins 2 and 3), the phone will think it's connecting to a computer and only draw 500ma. I modified a few 1amp chargers to actually charge at 1amp instead of 500ma. See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767961
happyhallsy8 said:
my tom tom universal one is the only one that ive found to come out at exactly 1A - 1.2A measured via current widget...
All the other brand 1A's sit at 350 - 600ma
I get about 0 - 150ma normal with Google Navigation and Power Amp playing flacs
I get about 500 - 780ma with Tom Tom with Google Navigation and Power Amp playing flacs
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Are you SURE you're getting the right result with the Current Widget? There's been quite a few threads on this topic and it doesn't seem that the Current Widget correctly supports our phone. Per that widget, I'm getting 400ma current draw normally - without running any active apps. When I use various chargers, that number goes up or down seemingly at random, LOL.
My most powerful charger, which provides 2A on one port and 2.1 A on the other - makes the widget report only 35 mA.
In short - I wish there was an app that correctly measures current draw on our phone, but I haven't found one based on multiple threads on the topic.
I use Battery Monitor Widget. I definitely see the difference between 500mA and 1A chargers. Some current form the charger is consumed by the phone itself, so it is not possible measure the actual draw from the power supply without an external meter.
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Get the Amazon one. Trust me! I have one and all my buddies have them. It is by far the cheapest and most powerful charger you can find.
My buddy did a review of it on here:
http://randomtek.com/randomtek-com-best-motorola-rapid-car-charger/
I have the one from Sprint with the AC adapter in it that pops out and it works well. Granted it was a bit pricey, but, it does the job and the battery does in fact charge while using telenav navigation and listening to music through the stereo as well. Slowly, but, at least it doesn't discharge while being charged....LOL...
jinwu57 said:
Get the Amazon one. Trust me! I have one and all my buddies have them. It is by far the cheapest and most powerful charger you can find.
My buddy did a review of it on here:
http://randomtek.com/randomtek-com-best-motorola-rapid-car-charger/
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I've seen/ heard a LOT of people who have that one and love it! Good choice with that one. I have a Motorola that also has a USB port in it and i little slide cover for the usb port when you're not using it, works great! I love it an highly recommend it. I charge my 3D and 4th Gen iPod Touch with it at the same time.
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jinwu57 said:
Get the Amazon one. Trust me! I have one and all my buddies have them. It is by far the cheapest and most powerful charger you can find.
My buddy did a review of it on here:
http://randomtek.com/randomtek-com-best-motorola-rapid-car-charger/
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This is one of the few chargers that would power the Palm Touchstone reliably. There was an extensive thread at Pre Central on car chargers. Just make sure it's the SPN5400A like in the link above. Some other Motorola chargers have a lower output.
On the E3D it shows charging on AC.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnector-X...UTF8&qid=1413648702&sr=8-2&keywords=magnector
Below are some low res images of the charger.
Positives:
Speedy delivery here in the UK.
Same charge speed as supplied sony cable (it doesn't come with charging block so I used the Sony block to charge)
Slightly faster charging than the iP6+ using supplied Apple charger
The magnetic 'adhesion' is STRONG. See image below of entire phone hanging by the cable head.
Compatible with my phone cases.
Connector jumps to the contact point due to good magnetic strength, but with 50% accuracy of alignment unless you aim well. LOL.
When connected, it has a very good magnetic flex/elastic give at the point of connection so as to simply bounce back into place without falling out at the first hint of a nudge.
Cable more flexible than sony cable, which is VERY stiff.
Otherwise neat packaging.
Negatives:
No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
Ought to have been longer but it is the same length as the sony cable, so yes i'm nitpicking with that one.
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No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
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FYI, unless it's engineered incorrectly, it's impossible to seat the magnetic charger backwards. One side will never seat correctly onto the pin.
subhani said:
Negatives:
No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
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Uh, the ability to fit the thing upside down would seem to be a rather serious defect, particularly if it can damage the phone when it's done??
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Uh, the ability to fit the thing upside down would seem to be a rather serious defect, particularly if it can damage the phone when it's done??
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Agreed my friend. Thanks for the correction
EDIT: I have tried charging another Z3 using the cable upside down and realised that actually only ONE of the two metal points make ANY contact, the other simply doesn't slot in. I'm guessing that was by design by Sony. So it isn't really a con. I will update the OP.
Very nice review, I have ordered the cable not adapter from Amazon.
I have a question. I am yet to receive my Sony Z3C and I understand I have to give it full charge/discharge cycles for the first 4-5 times so that the battery can hold its charge properly.
Would using the magnetic charger be the same as using the micro USB charger?
As I don't want to mess up my battery, and if the magnetic charger will interfere with the first few charge cycles then I can charge the phone with Micro USB for the first few charges before I start using the magnetic charger.
wolf0491 said:
I just bought the adapter. Works pretty good. I have a 6 foot USB I use haha.
I does come off rather easy when sitting it some things like my bed. Can't use it in my car at all. But luckily I never need charg phone in car!
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What do you mean you can't use it in the car?
Even if the phone is in a cup holder or something to hold it stationary?
Hi,
Can someone please tell the size of the cable?
I am wondering wether to buy the cable or an adapter, depending on its length.
Thanks.
wah007 said:
I have a question. I am yet to receive my Sony Z3C and I understand I have to give it full charge/discharge cycles for the first 4-5 times so that the battery can hold its charge properly.
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This is not true. Lithium-Ion batteries do not require a "break-in" or "formatting", instead you should do at least one full charge, then full discharge and full charge again to calibrate the battery's controller. It will measure the current flow over time and set the levels for full and empty charge, so that your phone shuts off at exactly 0% and displays 100% when the battery is actually full. (There is no risk for overcharging if it's improperly calibrated though, it will just show 99% for a very long time or suddenly jump from a lower value to 100%.)
In essence, don't worry about messing up your battery. Do a 100%-0%-100% cycle at one time where you keep the charger plugged in while it's charging, maybe keep it attached even for another 20 minutes after it reached 100%. Then your battery will be calibrated perfectly and you can use it as normal. And it doesn't matter at all if you use the magnetic or USB charger.
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I bought BOTH the adapter and wired versions from Amazon. Will probably update or create my own thread for those interested to see the differences.
dragonfet said:
This is not true. Lithium-Ion batteries do not require a "break-in" or "formatting", instead you should do at least one full charge, then full discharge and full charge again to calibrate the battery's controller. It will measure the current flow over time and set the levels for full and empty charge, so that your phone shuts off at exactly 0% and displays 100% when the battery is actually full. (There is no risk for overcharging if it's improperly calibrated though, it will just show 99% for a very long time or suddenly jump from a lower value to 100%.)
In essence, don't worry about messing up your battery. Do a 100%-0%-100% cycle at one time where you keep the charger plugged in while it's charging, maybe keep it attached even for another 20 minutes after it reached 100%. Then your battery will be calibrated perfectly and you can use it as normal. And it doesn't matter at all if you use the magnetic or USB charger.[/]
Thanks a lot for clearing that up for me. That's easy.
It's so easy to get confused when a lot of people are giving different info.
Now I can put my mind at rest. So it's a full charge, then discharge fully and finally charge it fullt and I'm done.
Thanks again
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Anyone notice using the magnector X adapter that when you plug or unplug it from your phone while you have a browser open (chrome in my case) that it refreshes the browser page? Seems really odd. However when I plug the power directly to the micro usb port, it doesn't do this. Anyone experience this and if so, is there a reason this happens?
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Anyone notice using the magnector X adapter that when you plug or unplug it from your phone while you have a browser open (chrome in my case) that it refreshes the browser page? Seems really odd. However when I plug the power directly to the micro usb port, it doesn't do this. Anyone experience this and if so, is there a reason this happens?
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Maybe it's got something to do with the phone going in to dock mode when the magnetic charger is connected. I'm sure someone who knows more will be able to help you.
I believe you are correct. I dont see a way to disable this in settings. Not really an issue for me
Yes it's entering on dock mode when you plug in the magnetic cable. It can disable only with the help of xposed framework (which requires root) and unfortunately not yet available for us. Hope to have root for locked bootloader soon
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Charger that comes with this phone is just labeled fast charge... Phone seems to charge pretty slow also from what I see.
i just installed some dual 2.4A usb outlets in my house they charge very fast from 8% to 100% in about an hour, considering the Amperage on the stock charger is 1.8A it doesn't seem like it would be enough to use the phone while charging.
I havent used the stock charger yet but mine reads it puts out [email protected] 1.8amps or [email protected] 1.8amps. I am waiting for my battery to get really low so i can see how fast it will charge.
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When the OEM charger is plugged in, swipe down and you can see it says it's being fast charged.
When plugged in, my screen does say Quick Charge, and my phone charged rather fast, but still getting used to it. Even when I had my phone plugged into a normal new USB C plugged directly into my usb outlet, it seemed to charge much faster than I was expecting.
Yes I understand it says fast charging, so does the quick charge 2.0 with this phone, but is it actually charging at QC 3.0 speeds??
It seems silly they would make a Quick Charge 3.0 phone and not supply the relevant charger.
I ordered an aftermarket QC 3.0 charger, I guess I can do some comparisons when it shows up.
Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
jrwingate6 said:
Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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They didn't give a qc2.0 charger with g4
turbodroid said:
I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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I performed a test with the aftermarket QC 3.0 charger linked above and the one supplied with the phone. I drained to 90% and as soon as it hit 90 I plugged it in and started the timer. The results are nearly identical in how fast 100% charge was achieved.
The first screenshot of total time was the aftermarket charger and the 2nd is the factory charger. I would venture to guess based on these results, the factory charger is QC 3.0, but you can draw your own conclusions.
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Well if the stock charger says 9V @ 1.8A and 5V @ 1.8A, then it's not true QC 3.0 as that uses voltages from 5V - 20V.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
Before any of you rush out and buy a cheap charger to save a few bucks I'd think twice about it. I have been screwed by cheap chargers on more than one occasion which is why I refuse to buy them anymore.
I've had them stop working after a couple weeks and many of them made a very annoying noise. Some made a high pitch squealing noise while just sitting there doing nothing and others made the noise while charging.
Slow and Fast
I noticed it charged VERY slow at first while i was using the phone at the same time. I notoced the charger wasnt even slighty warm to the touch after 30+ minutes. That made me think and noticed if I left the phone at rest without turning it on it charges much quicker and the charger got warm quick. And the charger actually cools down if you start using it half way through a charge.
*I took a screen shot of the battery usage graph, but I'm new so I can't post photos yet so you'll have to trust me lol
My rough estimates are that if you are using the phone while charging it will take just over 2 hours, but if you don't touch it then it charges in under 50 minutes.
Mind you phones battery temperature also effects the charge rate, is if you have it on top of a pillow it might not charge as quick.
You don't wanna use the phone while it quick charges. Turn screen off for an hour and it will be done
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Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
The charger that came with the G5 is the same charger that came with my v10, it is only Quick Charge 2.0, I have compared the model #'s and they are exactly the same. I have gone on amazon and ordered a Anker Quick Charge 3.0 plug and a couple of their USB-C cables.
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I just contacted LG through their website via E-Mail regarding the Quick Charge 3.0 charger, I will follow-up once I receive an email back from them. The website advised that I should receive an email within 24 hours.
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
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I have drained to 50% and am performing the same test with the factory charger now. Will update results later this evening so I can repeat with the aftermarket charger.
evobyte said:
Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
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It's a wonder why anyone tries to share information on this site with comments like this. Since you probably only skimmed over what I posted, I said feel free to draw your own conclusions and that it was a 'quick test'.
When the phone gets to 80 % the other 20% go pretty slow, might even be similar to the QC 2.0... But 50% to 100% would be a good test, and we can see if there's a difference
I know there don't seem to be a lot of 3rd party chargers that are capable of "Super Fast Charging" on the S20, but just wanted to drop a quick note that I found one.
I travel (well usually..) a bit, and try to consolidate my chargers a bit so I'm always on the lookout for decent multi-port adapters. As everyone knows, there are a ton of high powered adapters out there that you would hope give us the juice, but if you have read a bit - Samsung not only requires a PD port, but also PPS - and there aren't a whole of lot of adapters that support them.
I was hoping to pick a new adapter up to try and keep my Surface Go and S20 Ultra charged up, and not be a huge brick and came across this 65W 3-port bad boy: https://amzn.to/2L5d2uf from a company called Baseus. I have a couple of cables from them and they also seem to be popular on Aliepxress as well as Amazon, so decided to give it a try.
Got it in last night and paired it with a new USB 3.1 Gen 2 100W cable that I also just picked up, and lo and behold - I plugged that sucker in and "SUPER FAST CHARGING 2.0" popped up on the screen when using the top USB - C port.
Interestingly enough the second power only registered "SUPER FAST CHARGING" (no 2.0) and the USB-A QC port registered as "FAST CHARGING." Reading through the documentation it's because the first port can give the whole 65W, the second tops at 30W, and of course USB-A is limited. I guess that makes sense since Super Fast 2.0 is 45W with the Samsung OEM charger.
Bottom line, if you are looking for a 3rd party multiport that supports the max charging on the S20 (and I assume Note 10) - this one does the trick. I got mine on Amazon (they had US stock so came relatively quick) - but if you are willing to wait, can probably pick it up on Aliexpress or other source for cheaper.
I bought it for my laptop 4 months ago now its the only charger I use .
gh130 said:
I bought it for my laptop 4 months ago now its the only charger I use .
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Nice! -- my primary use was for my Surface, and I didn't think I'd get the highest charge with the S20U, but was a pleasant surprise.
I got an Ugreen USB C Charger 36W with 2 Type C ports that works as a Super Fast Charger
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You can use any PPS PD charger like baseus 65W on aliexpress but super fast 2 will not be real.
Many chargers trigger Super Fast Charging 2.0 but before You will celebrate, please run battery charging monitor from play store. It will draw a charging curve. Almost all non samsung chargers will oscilate. You wil see around 6000ma and after 2-3s it will drop to 500, and again and again.
This can damage your device, and will take a long time to charge
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You can use any PPS PD charger like baseus 65W on aliexpress but super fast 2 will not be real.
Many chargers trigger Super Fast Charging 2.0 but before You will celebrate, please run battery charging monitor from play store. It will draw a charging curve. Almost all non samsung chargers will oscilate. You wil see around 6000ma and after 2-3s it will drop to 500, and again and again.
This can damage your device, and will take a long time to charge
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Thanks for the heads up. I ran the app for a few minutes on the BaseUS charger and didn't see any of the dramatic dips as you mentioned above - so I'm hoping that's a good thing. Looks like a pretty consistent curve.
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The charging current you are getting is not Super Fast Charging 2.0 even though it says so in your notification bar. This is mine with Super Fast Charging 2.0 using the Samsung charger and cable. Battery Charging Monitor will report a higher charging current.
Also wanted to add that the Xiaomi Powerbank 3 Pro with USB PD will charge the S20 Ultra at Super Fast Charging 2.0 and at 5A with the supplied samsung cable. And aftermarket Baseus USB C cable only gives 3A.
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The charging current you are getting is not Super Fast Charging 2.0 even though it says so in your notification bar. This is mine with Super Fast Charging 2.0 using the Samsung charger and cable. Battery Charging Monitor will report a higher charging current.
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Interesting -- well, I guess my takeaway is that it isn't TRUE 2.0 super fast - but also it hopefully won't fry my battery! (i.e. not as fast as I'd like, but at least not going to damage the battery).
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Also wanted to add that the Xiaomi Powerbank 3 Pro with USB PD will charge the S20 Ultra at Super Fast Charging 2.0 and at 5A with the supplied samsung cable. And aftermarket Baseus USB C cable only gives 3A.
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I tried my test with a couple of 100W-rated USB 3.1 gen 2 cables - so it definitely wasn't the cables. But goes to show that cables are an important part of the equation too!
SFC 2.0 require e-marked cables to work, as well as compatible pps charger.
IMHO the best option is to get 45w samsung charger. Other brands are hit or miss.
The day 1 when I charged my google pixel 6, I had my heart stopped because while going to sleep I connected the charger and when I woke up the battery went down from 44% to 33% showing "connected, not charging" I thought this is it.
But then through out the whole day I was going through tonnes of videos and posts which confirmed one thing for sure that Google Pixel 6 doesn't go more than 22W on PPS charger. Finally fingers crossed I was going to spend on Anker 65W but then came across Belkin 25W Boost Wall Charger with PPS. My goodness the charger does what it does, charges 50% in 30 minutes and remaining reaching slowly in another 45 minutes which is enough and sounds safe to me.
I am posting this because many look around the internet for solutions like me, if I can contribute a little.
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It's very ironic. I was initially going to buy the official Google charger for the 30W despite already having a 20W one. I just bought another 20W charger in the Anker Nano one which also serves me perfectly fine as 20W is good enough; don't need the extra 2-3W ^^
Ayyyy! Snagged one too! It was half off bringing it down to $10!
For those in the UK the Belkin 25W Boost Wall Charger is currently reduced to £12.99 on Amazon.
Received the charger and it is as advertised. It peaked at around 25W and then settled at around 22.5W. Something to note is that the longer Anker cable I used to use drops it down to around 8.7W so the cable matters a lot.
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This is what I have
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vSk1m8
33w pps and small it should be dropping againnfor black Friday.
Dropped to 4 quid in the 11.11 sale bf drops to 6
That belkin one decent tho
I bought the original Google charger 30w.Peek is 22 too.
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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Did it charge at the same rate all the way to 100%?
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Did it charge at the same rate all the way to 100%?
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It did. 2900+ ma constant.
It's a power supply for a xfinity box. They are not even expensive, like 15 bucks.
I was reading about chargers and power supply which the power supply is always the same but chargers have temperature sensors? Maybe was about something else....
I may be mistaken
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I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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Constant 3A means nothing. You're maxing out at 15W since it's not PPS. Higher current is not a good indicator.
Testing random power bricks is pointless unless you know it supports PPS.
A PPS charger can fluctuate between 1-4 amps and have a constantly adjusting voltage to maximize power output.
With a Baseus gan 2 65w charger I constantly see more than 20w charging except the percentage is high. I think this one has pd3 which supports PPS.
Do not trust Franco readings. Get an inline meter if you need absolute certainty.
You could very well be hitting those speeds since the charger looks to be compatible.
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Constant 3A means nothing. You're maxing out at 15W since it's not PPS. Higher current is not a good indicator.
Testing random power bricks is pointless unless you know it supports PPS.
A PPS charger can fluctuate between 1-4 amps and have a constantly adjusting voltage to maximize power output.
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Understood.
Still, it got from 0 to 65% in like 40 minutes then I disconnected because I had to leave.. As soon as I receive mine, I'll do some stats and post them here.
I thought PPS chargers have a 3a max and is not constant, it goes up and down, depending on the battery itself.
The more amps that pulls, the faster it charges... Or am I wrong?
It's not correct. Power is current multiplied by voltage.
3A at 1V is only 3W. PD is usually 5V or 9V.
Google's can do 1.5A at 20V to reach 30W for supported devices.
For me, the more amps that pull the faster it charges... Voltage don't mean anything.
Voltage have great effect. Power is electrical current (amperes) multiplied by voltage (volts). For example 1 ampere at 5 volts is just 5 watts but same 1 ampere at 20 volts is 20 watts which is much higher. Different charging technologies have different approaches to send maximum power from charger to the phone but generally most use higher voltage to transfer power above 10 W because most usb cables do not support more than 2 to 3 A of current. Before charging the battery itself phone converts back the high voltage to low voltage suitable for the battery (usually between 3.5 and 4 volts). If you are looking at software programs like aida 64 or ampere - they read the current at this stage so this is why more current at that level means faster charging because the voltage is already reduced to what is needed by the battery. Generally you have something like this:
1. Phone and charger negotiate needed power and they way it will be achieved based on the capabilities of the charger, phone and cable connecting them. Let's say that they agree for 20W which is 10 V with 2 A current.
2. Charger transforms 220 V AC to 10 V DC and phone starts drawing 2A of power.
3. Internally in the phone voltage is transformed from 10 V to 4 V which causes current to rise to 5 A which are fed to the battery.
Here is a great analogy showing the relation between voltage, current, power and resistance using something as simple as water hose.
https://www.freeingenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Electricity-101-v2.png
utnick said:
Received the charger and it is as advertised. It peaked at around 25W and then settled at around 22.5W. Something to note is that the longer Anker cable I used to use drops it down to around 8.7W so the cable matters a lot.
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My 10ft type c to type c cable doesn't charge any slower than the supplied cable. However it is worth noting that anyone using a type a to type c will be limited to 15w.
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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It shouldn't damage it as charging is controlled by the SoC.
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My 10ft type c to type c cable doesn't charge any slower than the supplied cable. However it is worth noting that anyone using a type a to type c will be limited to 15w.
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Ahhhh. Yeah, it's type A to type C.