Third party magnetic charger MAGNECTOR X202 - Xperia Z3 Accessories

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnector-X...UTF8&qid=1413648702&sr=8-2&keywords=magnector
Below are some low res images of the charger.
Positives:
Speedy delivery here in the UK.
Same charge speed as supplied sony cable (it doesn't come with charging block so I used the Sony block to charge)
Slightly faster charging than the iP6+ using supplied Apple charger
The magnetic 'adhesion' is STRONG. See image below of entire phone hanging by the cable head.
Compatible with my phone cases.
Connector jumps to the contact point due to good magnetic strength, but with 50% accuracy of alignment unless you aim well. LOL.
When connected, it has a very good magnetic flex/elastic give at the point of connection so as to simply bounce back into place without falling out at the first hint of a nudge.
Cable more flexible than sony cable, which is VERY stiff.
Otherwise neat packaging.
Negatives:
No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
Ought to have been longer but it is the same length as the sony cable, so yes i'm nitpicking with that one.
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subhani said:
No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
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FYI, unless it's engineered incorrectly, it's impossible to seat the magnetic charger backwards. One side will never seat correctly onto the pin.

subhani said:
Negatives:
No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
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Uh, the ability to fit the thing upside down would seem to be a rather serious defect, particularly if it can damage the phone when it's done??

npaladin2000 said:
Uh, the ability to fit the thing upside down would seem to be a rather serious defect, particularly if it can damage the phone when it's done??
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Agreed my friend. Thanks for the correction
EDIT: I have tried charging another Z3 using the cable upside down and realised that actually only ONE of the two metal points make ANY contact, the other simply doesn't slot in. I'm guessing that was by design by Sony. So it isn't really a con. I will update the OP.

Very nice review, I have ordered the cable not adapter from Amazon.
I have a question. I am yet to receive my Sony Z3C and I understand I have to give it full charge/discharge cycles for the first 4-5 times so that the battery can hold its charge properly.
Would using the magnetic charger be the same as using the micro USB charger?
As I don't want to mess up my battery, and if the magnetic charger will interfere with the first few charge cycles then I can charge the phone with Micro USB for the first few charges before I start using the magnetic charger.

wolf0491 said:
I just bought the adapter. Works pretty good. I have a 6 foot USB I use haha.
I does come off rather easy when sitting it some things like my bed. Can't use it in my car at all. But luckily I never need charg phone in car!
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What do you mean you can't use it in the car?
Even if the phone is in a cup holder or something to hold it stationary?

Hi,
Can someone please tell the size of the cable?
I am wondering wether to buy the cable or an adapter, depending on its length.
Thanks.

wah007 said:
I have a question. I am yet to receive my Sony Z3C and I understand I have to give it full charge/discharge cycles for the first 4-5 times so that the battery can hold its charge properly.
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This is not true. Lithium-Ion batteries do not require a "break-in" or "formatting", instead you should do at least one full charge, then full discharge and full charge again to calibrate the battery's controller. It will measure the current flow over time and set the levels for full and empty charge, so that your phone shuts off at exactly 0% and displays 100% when the battery is actually full. (There is no risk for overcharging if it's improperly calibrated though, it will just show 99% for a very long time or suddenly jump from a lower value to 100%.)
In essence, don't worry about messing up your battery. Do a 100%-0%-100% cycle at one time where you keep the charger plugged in while it's charging, maybe keep it attached even for another 20 minutes after it reached 100%. Then your battery will be calibrated perfectly and you can use it as normal. And it doesn't matter at all if you use the magnetic or USB charger.

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I bought BOTH the adapter and wired versions from Amazon. Will probably update or create my own thread for those interested to see the differences.

dragonfet said:
This is not true. Lithium-Ion batteries do not require a "break-in" or "formatting", instead you should do at least one full charge, then full discharge and full charge again to calibrate the battery's controller. It will measure the current flow over time and set the levels for full and empty charge, so that your phone shuts off at exactly 0% and displays 100% when the battery is actually full. (There is no risk for overcharging if it's improperly calibrated though, it will just show 99% for a very long time or suddenly jump from a lower value to 100%.)
In essence, don't worry about messing up your battery. Do a 100%-0%-100% cycle at one time where you keep the charger plugged in while it's charging, maybe keep it attached even for another 20 minutes after it reached 100%. Then your battery will be calibrated perfectly and you can use it as normal. And it doesn't matter at all if you use the magnetic or USB charger.[/]
Thanks a lot for clearing that up for me. That's easy.
It's so easy to get confused when a lot of people are giving different info.
Now I can put my mind at rest. So it's a full charge, then discharge fully and finally charge it fullt and I'm done.
Thanks again
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Anyone notice using the magnector X adapter that when you plug or unplug it from your phone while you have a browser open (chrome in my case) that it refreshes the browser page? Seems really odd. However when I plug the power directly to the micro usb port, it doesn't do this. Anyone experience this and if so, is there a reason this happens?

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Anyone notice using the magnector X adapter that when you plug or unplug it from your phone while you have a browser open (chrome in my case) that it refreshes the browser page? Seems really odd. However when I plug the power directly to the micro usb port, it doesn't do this. Anyone experience this and if so, is there a reason this happens?
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Maybe it's got something to do with the phone going in to dock mode when the magnetic charger is connected. I'm sure someone who knows more will be able to help you.

I believe you are correct. I dont see a way to disable this in settings. Not really an issue for me

Yes it's entering on dock mode when you plug in the magnetic cable. It can disable only with the help of xposed framework (which requires root) and unfortunately not yet available for us. Hope to have root for locked bootloader soon
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is it ok to leave the phone plugged in overnight?

not sure if this is good for the battery to leave it plugged into the charger when it's at 100%..
i been told before that these new devices it's ok to leave it plugged in...but i don't have a good feeling about this lol
it'd be great if someone can please chime in on this.
thanks all!
Yes it is OK. The charging circuitry will switch to a trickle charger when battery is almost fully charged.
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I've been leaving phones plugged in overnight for about a decade and nothing has ever gone wrong:victory:
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I've been leaving phones plugged in overnight for about a decade and nothing has ever gone wrong:victory:
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Me too
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Done that every night for the pass 3yrs. Never have any issue.
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Except battery's going to wear out fast? That's what she said.
No because they're lithium iron batteries.
I believe they are different to older phones/batteries
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the charging system is getting more and more intelligent...no reason to worry about that anymore
Just keep your batteries with more than 20-30% charge as much as possible.
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I leave my phone charged to 100% almost all the time:
- when I am at work I leave it plugged to the USB port
- when I am working at home, the phone is connected to the USB port
- when I am driving the phone is connected to the vehicular charger
- when I go to bed, if the phone is below 70%, I leave it plugged on the wall charger overnight.
Yet, when I am on long bike rides and the 3G+ data + GPS + synch are enabled, I still get excellent battery times.
Over charging any battery isn't very good for it, it's the same with laptops and well pretty much anything, so long as power is coming in the battery will take it, even if it is at a slower rate.
Ideally you would want it to charge to 100% and then a little bit more, maybe 20 mins, to make sure.
However i know we don't live in an ideal world and charging it overnight is the only thing that can be done by most users.
In my work we have a lot of phones plugged in all the time (all brands) and they have some strange effects happening, eg: Unresponsive touchscreen (removing the charger solves this), Poor battery life, glitchy screen etc.
Saying that, all of our phones are plugged in all of the time so it is an extreme situation.
If your worried about it then get a timed plug so it only charges for a few hours and then cuts off.
But you should be fine otherwise.
Just feel the charger when the phone's at 100% and it's giving off a f**k load of heat because the phone isn't actually taking anymore charge and the charger turns the reduced MAH it draws into heat in the charger, so just don't worry about it because the phone does all the work for you and can't go over a full charge.
My phone stops charging at 100%.
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Instead of creating a new thread, I'd like to steer the ci bvr station towards what charger is it OK to use.
For the ones who know their stuff, can I use any USB charger or must I use only the Samsung charger that cane with the S3?
I remember reading the circuity that allows a proper charge is specific to Samsung chargers.
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Instead of creating a new thread, I'd like to steer the ci bvr station towards what charger is it OK to use.
For the ones who know their stuff, can I use any USB charger or must I use only the Samsung charger that cane with the S3?
I remember reading the circuity that allows a proper charge is specific to Samsung chargers.
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Yeah you can use any Micro USB cable or charger as long as it outputs no more than 1000mah.
I thought a higher output was "good" in that it reduces the charging time.
Could you please explain why one must take into account a limit?
Conversely, is a low output harmful: how about charging from a laptop USB port?
Also, I have a HTC One X. Can I use the Samsung charger with it: how do I find out the output limit for the One X?
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RF12 said:
I thought a higher output was "good" in that it reduces the charging time.
Could you please explain why one must take into account a limit?
Conversely, is a low output harmful: how about charging from a laptop USB port?
Also, I have a HTC One X. Can I use the Samsung charger with it: how do I find out the output limit for the One X?
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A higher current can damage the battery and possibly the phone and some people say the phone at any current above 1500mah but still haven't seen any proof yet, and you can probably get away with 1300mah but the more you the the hotter the battery gets then slowly expands and might pop, and yes you can use the HTC charger no problem but check any charger you use for output current wrote on charger, and also yes you can charge from a laptop or any really slow charger you like.
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A higher current can damage the battery and possibly the phone and some people say the phone at any current above 1500mah but still haven't seen any proof yet, and you can probably get away with 1300mah but the more you the the hotter the battery gets then slowly expands and might pop, and yes you can use the HTC charger no problem but check any charger you use for output current wrote on charger, and also yes you can charge from a laptop or any really slow charger you like.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the Samsung phones block excessive current and can accept up to 1amp. Also when using any charger that doesn't have the middle cables short-circuited would produce 500milliamps regardless of charger's output(this can be turned off with custom kernel). That's why there is a list of car chargers on gsII or Note forums that have the pins shorted. That said, people had reported that using HP touchpad cuts down in charging time while increasing heat.
I am looking into this a little more and some useful info I found.
My GT-I9300 charger outputs 1000mA @ 5V. The phone charges up quickly. No problem there.
When using a USB port on my Macbook Air (2012 model), under About This Mac > More Info... > System Report... > Hardware > USB > bottom USB High-Speed Bus Hub listed: I see that 500mA are avail from the USB 2.0 port (conforming with USB 2.0 standard specs), but the GT-I9300 is only requesting/ drawing 96mA, whether I am using the original Samsung USB cable which came with the phone or my favorite short Jawbone ERA USB to microUSB shorter cable.
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It just takes much longer to charge.
My One X (S720E) draws the full 500mA avail from the port:
It should be noted that some Apple peripherals/ devices (iPhone, iPad etc.) can request and get an additional 500mA from the port on computers/ monitors that supports this.
Here is the Apple Support Article that covers this.
Pretty much everything uses Lithium-Ion these days, and it's perfectly safe to leave overnight, heck I even upped the AC charge voltage to a straight-up 1200 on AC power.
Charging at lower powers is equally harmless, but if you use the phone you may drain faster than it can charge.
All in all, thse rumors about decreasing battery life are getting sillier and sillier these days. Earlier batteries were a bit finicky, but they have improved A LOT, and honestly, a new samsung battery costs 25 dollars? If I'm still using this device in 3-4 years when the battery finally gives out I'll be very surprised.
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Using phone as dedicated dash cam

I have an old beat up Motorola Droid 1 that I've been using as a dedicated dash cam in my car and it's been working great except the battery life isn't great. I keep it in Airplane Mode and it is always connected to the charger but it only charges when the car is running, so when I'm not driving the phone stays on and after a day it dies. Does anyone have any recommendations for increasing the battery life? It's rooted and running a custom ROM (Bugless Beast) v0.5 which is Android 2.2) so I'm able to disable any unnecessary apps or services that aren't being used. I'll never use it as anything except a dash cam so even things like GPS are unnecessary. I don't have any apps installed besides the ones used for the dash cam functions. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
For anyone who's interested in my setup, I keep the phone in a windshield mount and it stays plugged in and I have an app called AutomateIt that detects power whenever I turn on the ignition and it opens up another app called DailyRoads which is set to automatically start recording once opened. I then have AutomateIt set to detect when the power source is shut off and it closes DailyRoads at that point. It works great and all videos are saved to the phone's microSD card. To save space I disabled audio recording so only video is recorded. Finally, I have a tiny wide-angle lens glued over the phone's regular camera lens so that there's a much wider field of view than normal. The more I capture the better.
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Thanks but I'm trying to keep the phone on as long as possible, not charge the car battery, although somehow using solar charging would be an interesting idea for the phone.
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Thanks but I'm trying to keep the phone on as long as possible, not charge the car battery, although somehow using solar charging would be an interesting idea for the phone.
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Of course you are supposed to charge the phone using the small dashboard solar panel. You'll just need a few couplings and a 12V USB charger.
kuisma said:
Of course you are supposed to charge the phone using the small dashboard solar panel. You'll just need a few couplings and a 12V USB charger.
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Could you please point out what the couplings look like? I have a 12V USB charger already but I'd need to know what the couplings are like. Thanks again.
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Could you please point out what the couplings look like? I have a 12V USB charger already but I'd need to know what the couplings are like. Thanks again.
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Since you'd like to charge from the car engine while running, I'd use an Y splitter, connecting the USB charger in one outlet, and the solar panel in the other. Don't buy a too cheap/small panel though, you'll need all the amperage you can get, especially during overcast days.
I'm currently using this to power the dashcam phone as well as charge my regular phone:
Would that work the same way or should I buy the "Y" one you showed? I also found the site selling the solar panel for $20 so I'd assume that's good enough.
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I'm currently using this to power the dashcam phone as well as charge my regular phone:
Would that work the same way or should I buy the "Y" one you showed? I also found the site selling the solar panel for $20 so I'd assume that's good enough.
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Looks perfect. What amperage (or wattage) does the solar panel deliver?
kuisma said:
Looks perfect. What amperage (or wattage) does the solar panel deliver?
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The site says 1 watt and of course it's 12V. Since you most likely just found it as an example I think I'll do some research to see what other solar panel options there are. I assume I should aim for a 1A panel. Now that I know the general setup I'm happy to do some experimenting.
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The site says 1 watt and of course it's 12V. Since you most likely just found it as an example I think I'll do some research to see what other solar panel options there are. I assume I should aim for a 1A panel. Now that I know the general setup I'm happy to do some experimenting.
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1 watt is far too low. 1W is 80mA at 12V, and you must aim for at least 500mA (6W) to make sure the USB charger gets happy. Also remember the figures are at optimum conditions, i.e. bright sun at 90 degrees, so yes, aim for at least 1A. The more the merrier.
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1 watt is far too low. 1W is 80mA at 12V, and you must aim for at least 500mA (6W) to make sure the USB charger gets happy. Also remember the figures are at optimum conditions, i.e. bright sun at 90 degrees, so yes, aim for at least 1A. The more the merrier.
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Yeah I know most Android phones require between 500mA to 1A so I always aim for the higher number. If you happen to know where I can find a 6 or 12W 12V solar panel I'd appreciate it, because I'm not having much luck finding anything good that also has the cigarette lighter plug.
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Yeah I know most Android phones require between 500mA to 1A so I always aim for the higher number. If you happen to know where I can find a 6 or 12W 12V solar panel I'd appreciate it, because I'm not having much luck finding anything good that also has the cigarette lighter plug.
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USB 2.0 can only deliver 500mA per specification, so you know for sure this is enough to get things going. I'm here assuming your USB charger is a linear regulator, consuming the same amperage it delivers (i.e. 40% conversation rate), and this is worst-case.
Yes I have a few stores here close by selling such panels, but I guess p&p from Sweden isn't the best way spending you money.
You won't find any high power solar panels with cigarette plugs, since with more power you'll need more advanced charging circuits to protect your car battery from frying. But 6 to 12W should not be any problem to find with a cigarette plug.
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USB 2.0 can only deliver 500mA per specification, so you know for sure this is enough to get things going. I'm here assuming your USB charger is a linear regulator, consuming the same amperage it delivers (i.e. 40% conversation rate), and this is worst-case.
Yes I have a few stores here close by selling such panels, but I guess p&p from Sweden isn't the best way spending you money.
You won't find any high power solar panels with cigarette plugs, since with more power you'll need more advanced charging circuits to protect your car battery from frying. But 6 to 12W should not be any problem to find with a cigarette plug.
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Wow I didn't even notice you're in Sweden, your English is incredible! I'm happy to continue researching based on your advice so tack så, I really do appreciate it.
Another maybe simpler solution is to install another cigarette outlet in your car, connected to your car battery via a discharge protection circuit. This way you'll charge the phone from the car battery even when the engine is off, and the protection circuit will ensure you always got power enough to start the car. I.e. it'll turn of at 25% remaining charge or so, and 75% of your car battery will power your phone for a very long time.
But this will cause your car battery to wear out faster, due to the increased number and depths of charge cycles.
If anyone else has an idea for reducing the power drain of the phone I'd love to hear options since the phone would only be used as the camera. I'm thinking of permanently disabling services and apps but other ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!
Reducing power usage...
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If anyone else has an idea for reducing the power drain of the phone I'd love to hear options since the phone would only be used as the camera. I'm thinking of permanently disabling services and apps but other ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!
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I dunno if you already tried this, perhaps I missed where you said it already, I did read the thread to best of my ability, but I think the screen uses alot of power, especially if set to max brightness. Perhaps you can use the AutomateIt app or some other to have the screen power off until you tap it again. Have it power the screen off on a timer like 5 seconds or 10 seconds or something.
Other idea: Perhaps you can install an app such as an Android version of TOP or HTOP which on linux monitors running processes and CPU usage, memory usage etc. (probably you know this) Use this tool to find other processes that are perhaps hogging CPU time and see if you can shut those down.
I am new to hacking Android and even linux for that matter but I know there are these daemons( similar to windows services) at are started by a boot or login script which you can control running by editing the appropriate file (I don't know what file that would be). There is likely a utility app out there already which makes this easy via a GUI. Shutdown any services (daemons) you don't need.
Otherwise, I think plugging the phone into the cigarette lighter jack would eliminate this problem rather quickly I believe.
How is the project been going for you since you last posted? I am interested in doing something similar with my old LG Optimus.
Thanks

Wireless charging mod - any idea why this won't work?

I know we can't easily open the Tab 2 7" - but what if I took the charging cable, snipped it off, connected it to a wireless receiver and hid that in a silicone case?
I bought my tab as a replacement for my Pronto remote - and i want to be able to easy charge it without needing 2 hands to dock and undock - i figure it is more likely to be left charging.
Since the tab can charge off a pc at 500mah - i should be able to charge it this way, right? Thoughts?
So this does work. I am not sure if I can put it inside, but I may use copper tape and put it outside and cover with a case. I am not sure how or if I can tap into the internal charging circuit.
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So this does work. I am not sure if I can put it inside, but I may use copper tape and put it outside and cover with a case. I am not sure how or if I can tap into the internal charging circuit.
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So I did this quick mod because i use the tab 2 in the living room as a TV remote with TouchSquid software. I was worried about the charging cable falling behind furniture or the device not getting plugged in.
The new phones all have contacts in the battery compartment where you can lay in one of the wireless receivers, but the teardown pics for the tab 2 don't show anything like this, so i took the safe approach and modified a samsung cable. Unfortunately I can't tuck this inside, and I was worried about trying to tap into the charging circuitry inside, so I am stuck with the plug on the right.
I created a bigger platform for the wireless transmitter too - the sides are higher so the tab 2 and its slight bump on the back fit down against the charging pad. And since the charging pad is now the same size, there is no problem with incorrect positioning.
So since the principle behind wireless charging is inductance, does this cause any heat? If so, how much, do you have an IR thermometer to measure?
I'd like to do this, but i have an otterbox defender case, which is sealed pretty good. I'd be worried about heat build up. Can you post a link as to how you did this?
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So since the principle behind wireless charging is inductance, does this cause any heat? If so, how much, do you have an IR thermometer to measure?
I'd like to do this, but i have an otterbox defender case, which is sealed pretty good. I'd be worried about heat build up. Can you post a link as to how you did this?
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It gets warm, but not hot. No warmer then a phone that is plugged in or is in use. I have not actually measured the temperature difference as it doesn't matter to me, and because the charging rate is relatively low (as registered by the the tablet) is low at about 500 ma, and the charging plate and coil are rated at under 1 amp. there is not the opportunity for that much heat anyway.
I am not sure what links you are looking for, I think the pics are pretty self explanatory. I bought the transmitter,receiver and cable off ebay - the QI receiver is for a Note 2. I cut the cable, attached red and black wires to the receiver after verifying polarity of receiver with an voltmeter. Green and white wires were soldered together and that was it.
The platform for the transmitter is a block of wood painted black, with a routed area for the transmitter.
Thanks for reply.
I am looking for a total, complete, DIY inductance charger. Completely built from scratch. I was hoping to find some info on making one from the ground up, not just simply modifying a current charger to work with our tabs.
I have found some info on building such a charger, but not specifically for our tab. My reason is because 1. I'm a cheapskate and 2. I like doing things like this.
Modifying a charger from another device is going to be easiest I think, since I haven't found anything specifically for our tabs like I had mentioned.
Thanks again. I think I will go this route and your thread will be helpful.
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My reason for off the shelf parts is re-use. The QI standard seems to be the winner. So I can always reuse the charging base with another phone and the receiver and cable were less then $15. I am not sure you could build your own for cheaper unless someone gives away some old palm parts.
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So this does work. I am not sure if I can put it inside, but I may use copper tape and put it outside and cover with a case. I am not sure how or if I can tap into the internal charging circuit.
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Hey this is interesting mod if it work Im in and as for the connecting of the receiver to the batt have you open the back cover and figure out which wire it should be connected to? heres the picture.
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Hey this is interesting mod if it work Im in and as for the connecting of the receiver to the batt have you open the back cover and figure out which wire it should be connected to? heres the picture.
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Yeah I have seen the pics. The problem is that chargers don't plug directly into batteries. And if you did wire it directly to the battery or USB port, what happens when you plug in a USB cable? Do you energize the charging receiver? Someone more versed in electronics would need to figure out how to do this. The phones have dedicated contacts for the wireless charger.
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Yeah I have seen the pics. The problem is that chargers don't plug directly into batteries. And if you did wire it directly to the battery or USB port, what happens when you plug in a USB cable? Do you energize the charging receiver? Someone more versed in electronics would need to figure out how to do this. The phones have dedicated contacts for the wireless charger.
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Could this help maybe? http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1663305
alphadog00 said:
The problem is that chargers don't plug directly into batteries. And if you did wire it directly to the battery or USB port, what happens when you plug in a USB cable? Do you energize the charging receiver?
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Hey alphadog maybe this would answer your questions.
http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/28/high-waf-inductive-charging-mod/
Thanks for the good info, but my mod is done. And no one really takes into account what happens when USB port is in use.
Or if you try to charge both ways at one time.
But it looks like there is lots of good info for someone to make the next revision!

Transformer Prime AC charger safe? My stock one is not good...

Hi!
I noticed my phone takes a long time to charge and some times when using it while charging I will get a message about the phone being discharging as the power supplied was not enough or something along those lines.
I downloaded the battery status widget and noticed that at best, the charger goes to about 850 but for that I have to keep moving it as it seems some where inside the ac adapter and the USA adapter plug connected to it, something is going wrong.
I tried the original Sony usb cable and a different one as well.
Either way, when I move the AC Adapter parts connected to the wall, the charge changes and go crazy on the Batter Status widget , sometimes even shows like not even plugged any more :/
So I thought about trying my Transformer prime charger or I can try ordering another one that you guys may recommend.
Thanks!
Here is a pic of the specs on that adapter.
Or maybe I can use a Samsung one like this?
Samsung Charger 2A
Although the above seems to be a fake...so maybe just go with a sony one?
Sony
shaolin95 said:
Hi!
I noticed my phone takes a long time to charge and some times when using it while charging I will get a message about the phone being discharging as the power supplied was not enough or something along those lines.
I downloaded the battery status widget and noticed that at best, the charger goes to about 850 but for that I have to keep moving it as it seems some where inside the ac adapter and the USA adapter plug connected to it, something is going wrong.
I tried the original Sony usb cable and a different one as well.
Either way, when I move the AC Adapter parts connected to the wall, the charge changes and go crazy on the Batter Status widget , sometimes even shows like not even plugged any more :/
So I thought about trying my Transformer prime charger or I can try ordering another one that you guys may recommend.
Thanks!
Here is a pic of the specs on that adapter.
Or maybe I can use a Samsung one like this?
Samsung Charger 2A
Although the above seems to be a fake...so maybe just go with a sony one?
Sony
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Looks like your Asus charger is 1.2A (1200mAh), so it's not the beefiest one out there. I'm not sure what the Sony one is, but i think it's 1.5A. Mine outputs around 800 - 1300mAh on the magnetic charger, and it uses around 2 hours to charge it from 0-100%. I usually charge it when i go to bed, but i'm always using it when it's charging in the dock, like wathcing YouTube videos and TV shows. I have never gotten a notification that says it's being discharged while i charge.
Does it get hot when it charges? (spoiler: it shouldn't do that)
I would buy a new - genuine, Sony charger. The thing is, if you buy or use a different charger and your battery goes to ****s, you can wave goodbye to your warranty. Also, since the battery isn't replacable you should treat it like your own son.
But let me summon @hamdogg for you. He knows a lot more about batteries than i do. I guess he'll show up in a minute or 12 hours. Hard to tell But he's on his way.
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Looks like your Asus charger is 1.2A (1200mAh), so it's not the beefiest one out there. I'm not sure what the Sony one is, but i think it's 1.5A. Mine outputs around 800 - 1300mAh on the magnetic charger, and it uses around 2 hours to charge it from 0-100%. I usually charge it when i go to bed, but i'm always using it when it's charging in the dock, like wathcing YouTube videos and TV shows. I have never gotten a notification that says it's being discharged while i charge.
Does it get hot when it charges? (spoiler: it shouldn't do that)
I would buy a new - genuine, Sony charger. The thing is, if you buy or use a different charger and your battery goes to ****s, you can wave goodbye to your warranty. Also, since the battery isn't replacable you should treat it like your own son.
But let me summon @hamdogg for you. He knows a lot more about batteries than i do. I guess he'll show up in a minute or 12 hours. Hard to tell But he's on his way.
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hahahahah, you see that Asus charger confuses me because it says but then below it also says Output 5V=2A or 15V=1.2 I dont want to fry my phone!
So you get from 800 to 1300 using the Dk30?
Also, what is the model of your Sony charger. I want to try finding one with USA plug already so maybe that Sony one is the best option for me even though I would like to start going with Magnetic charger myself OR charging an external battery (if I get one) to avoid using the USB port too much.
I got the DK30 bundled with the phone. The charger model is EP880 and it outputs 1500mAh. It only says Sony on the dock itself.
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Got ya. Well I decided to get the DK30 even though now I am having second thoughts since some user seems to be having luck just using the magnetic adapters and connecting any usb cable to that adapter instead..but oh well, I guess I will get the DK30 and see how it works out for me.
Still trying to decide on that 4500mAh case/battery too!
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I got the DK30 bundled with the phone. The charger model is EP880 and it outputs 1500mAh. It only says Sony on the dock itself.
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shaolin95 said:
Got ya. Well I decided to get the DK30 even though now I am having second thoughts since some user seems to be having luck just using the magnetic adapters and connecting any usb cable to that adapter instead..but oh well, I guess I will get the DK30 and see how it works out for me.
Still trying to decide on that 4500mAh case/battery too!
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I would like the Sony cp12 but it's about 100£ might have to just go for a 3rdparty power case
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Sorry have been away for a few days...
amps are fine no matter what the range. So 1.5 right up to 4.0 amps will not damage your device.
Volts on the other hand can damage your device. Don't go above 6v.
You should be able to get 5.v and 2.0 amps out of a wall charger, if not then its not been made properly, or not efficiently
[I have a 2.1amp unit and it suits me fine]
The difference is that your device will pull what ever I can up to a maximum, It look like the ultra can only pull 2200 (give or take) out of a charging unit, so any wall charger that states its over 2.5 amps will be a waste.
-So don't pay extra for anything above 2.2amps thinking you'll get faster charging. You wont.
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shaolin95 said:
Got ya. Well I decided to get the DK30 even though now I am having second thoughts since some user seems to be having luck just using the magnetic adapters and connecting any usb cable to that adapter instead..but oh well, I guess I will get the DK30 and see how it works out for me.
Still trying to decide on that 4500mAh case/battery too!
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I got a free 5000mhz solar charger unit sent to me to review. I'll make a video for my channel shortly about this unit. Think it retails for $15 USD. Look pretty good, just need to test it on my ultra in a few days.
The thing with battery packs, is that it needs to be 200% larger than the internal battery. So if your Ultra battery is flat, then it charges off the 5000mhz battery pack, that would mean to it wont fully charge the ultra. It will get to 2500mha, and the battery pack will get down to 2500mhz, and then it wont be able to transfer charge. (Unless you can give charge to pack)
So my solar pack can charge my device to 75%, and then continue to charge it while the solar panel charges the pack..
Does that make sense??
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I recently bought the Anker Quick Charge 3.0 39W Dual USB Car Charger (Amazon link below) and, while my Pixel will charge at regular speed when plugged in, I cannot get Quick Charging to activate. I've tried multiple USB-C cables (one that came with the Pixel as well as a separate one I bought) in both of the charger's USB ports, but to no avail. The Quick Charging feature works when plugged into a compatible wall outlet (using the same cables) so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or just have a faulty charger. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to proceed would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks very much.
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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Thanks very much for the reply. That makes sense.
Is there a compatible car charger that activates the Pixel's QC feature? Or could it be charging at the maximum rate and perhaps just not showing the "Charging Rapidly" notification? Just trying to figure out if I should keep or return this charger.
Thanks again.
goodwidp said:
Thanks very much for the reply. That makes sense.
Is there a compatible car charger that activates the Pixel's QC feature? Or could it be charging at the maximum rate and perhaps just not showing the "Charging Rapidly" notification? Just trying to figure out if I should keep or return this charger.
Thanks again.
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Sorry mate, I honestly not sure but i think you can track the voltage by apps like Ampere
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It's because what pixel have is type c QC, not Qualcomm QC, thats probably the reson
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I'm sorry man but youre wrong.
I have the same charger in my car. I plug my pixel into it on my way from work to school usually at 30% and as soon as I do it'll charge rapidly and it'll state on the lockscreen that it's charging rapidly. By the time I reach school (it's only 30 mins away) the pixel is at 75-80%
So yes this should rapidly charge your pixel as it rapidly charges mine from day one.
You may have to check the voltage output going to that outlet in the car, it may just need to be recalibrated. Older cars tend to loose some voltage power. ( I know from experience in my last car)
The cable quality can also affect charging current. Download Ampere (its free). Get a decent cable recommended by Benson. It makes a huge difference in charging current and hence, speed.
Check here for good cables:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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The cable quality can also affect charging current. Download Ampere (its free). Get a decent cable recommended by Benson. It makes a huge difference in charging current and hence, speed.
Check here for good cables:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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Yeah always use a cable with superb quality. I use the reg usb to usbc in the car.
If you need a USB c to USB c I recommend buying one at the Apple store. Their cables are approved for the pixel and are great quality.
If you're still looking for a auto charger, you want want one that support Power delivery 2.0 not Quick Charge 2/3.0
This is the one I use.
Amazon Link
Thanks very much to everyone for the helpful replies.
Surprisingly, the situation seems to have sorted itself out over the past week as the charger is now activating the quick charging when in use. It's not quite as strong as a wall outlet (see Ampere pics below), but it's still pretty quick and I now see the "Charging Rapidly" notification when plugged in (though it takes a few seconds to display). It really wasn't showing that notification when I first tried the charger and opened this thread, so I'm not sure what caused the change, but I'm satisfied with the charger so I'll keep it.
Here are screenshots of Ampere showing the max charging rate for both the car and wall outlet (one that came w/ Pixel) after being plugged in for 20-30 min. Is it normal that the car charger's max rate is slightly slower than the wall? Thanks again, all. I sincerely appreciate the help and info.
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May I have the link of amper from play store. searched, but got several apps.
goodwidp said:
Thanks very much to everyone for the helpful replies.
Surprisingly, the situation seems to have sorted itself out over the past week as the charger is now activating the quick charging when in use. It's not quite as strong as a wall outlet (see Ampere pics below), but it's still pretty quick and I now see the "Charging Rapidly" notification when plugged in (though it takes a few seconds to display). It really wasn't showing that notification when I first tried the charger and opened this thread, so I'm not sure what caused the change, but I'm satisfied with the charger so I'll keep it.
Here are screenshots of Ampere showing the max charging rate for both the car and wall outlet (one that came w/ Pixel) after being plugged in for 20-30 min. Is it normal that the car charger's max rate is slightly slower than the wall? Thanks again, all. I sincerely appreciate the help and info.
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May I have the link of amper from play store. searched, but got several apps.
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Here's the one you want:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en
Anker Quick Charge 3.0 39W Dual USB Car Charger, PowerDrive Speed 2 for Google Pixel. It charges devices up to 80% in just 35 minutes. It is enough power to charge power-hungry USB devices at full speed. It is also ultra-compact build, twin USB ports, soft LED light, and carbon-fiber mesh ensure maximum convenience and a sleek finish.

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