Seems to be a perfect fit for the ASUS 40 pin connector.
Now we have to decide WHAT to make. I was thinking about a few items, but your suggestions needed.
Wheeeeeeee....
Note: There may be other places to get it, but this is the first place I found it.
Mouser Part #: 571-2129276-1
Manufacturer Part #:
2129276-1
Manufacturer:
TE Connectivity
Description: I/O Connectors 40P CABLE MNT PLUG CHAMP DOCKING
Stock: 1,070 Can Ship Immediately
Pricing (USD)
1: $3.49
10: $3.14
25: $2.85
100: $2.71
PS: These are very small connection points, so you need to have special soldering equipment (sub-mm tips).
Well, maybe start with USB Host?
My suggestions:
- USB-Hub like Soundsurfer said
- Infrared adapter to control your home cinema (i saw that the new sony tablet s has it built in. maye we can port the software?)
- DVB-t
greetings
SoundSurfer said:
Well, maybe start with USB Host?
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Great idea. I like it a lot.
I ordered a couple of these ACT4060 items:
ACT4060A SOP-8 ACT4060 Wide Input 2A Step Down
The idea is to take 15V from the tablet or charger and step down to 5V to power a USB hub, similar the the ASUS USB host device (same part).
I also thought to add a 5.5mm female barrel socket for charging with a 15V power supply, like these: Power Supply DC 15V
Note: Many other power supply are available from 12V-15V with 5.5mm barrel plug.
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w04g005 said:
My suggestions:
- USB-Hub like Soundsurfer said
- Infrared adapter to control your home cinema (i saw that the new sony tablet s has it built in. maye we can port the software?)
- DVB-t
greetings
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Great, thanks!
I do not think the HDMI output is on the 40 pin cable, but I could be wrong. There is audio available, because it is on the TF101 Desktop Stand.
Any links to an infrared control?
Bob Smith42 said:
Any links to an infrared control?
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Sorry,
i have no link for infrared control. I only have seen the video with infrared remote from the tablet s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbYzckPXJ2Q&feature=player_embedded
But we can try to combine a standard usb infrared adapter with the 40-pin connector. Maybe it doesn't work because of the lack of drivers (if they couldn't get extracted from the sony tablet). But i have to say that i'm neither a electronic technician nor a programmer. Only wanted to suggest my wishes ;-)
Maybe this can help:
http://www.irdroid.com/
greetings
Can you make a regular USB cable with this connector ?
question: do you have the pin out of the 40-pin connector?
w04g005 said:
- Infrared adapter to control your home cinema (i saw that the new sony tablet s has it built in. maye we can port the software?)
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This would be a great idea - this sort of feature makes the Sony offering stand out in an otherwise fairly homogenous tablet market. Don't know anything about how to do this though, but will post back if I manage to find out anything useful...
fisha21 said:
This would be a great idea - this sort of feature makes the Sony offering stand out in an otherwise fairly homogenous tablet market. Don't know anything about how to do this though, but will post back if I manage to find out anything useful...
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Ok, i assume 2 or 3 pins on the 40-pin connector are for audio signals because the dock has an audio out! we could connect some irda leds to the pins like shown in this project:
www.irdroid.com
But i have to say that i read today about a new logitech product called: logitech harmony link
www.logitech.com/en-us/remotes/universal-remotes/devices/harmony-link
i think i will buy these to replace my harmony one.
greetings
Matthias
how about a mini usb cord? So I could plug my DSLR camera into it and download the pictures on the fly?..or even a micro to plug the phone in...but if it was a USB hub, it would work as well..just a longer cord.
w04g005 said:
Ok, i assume 2 or 3 pins on the 40-pin connector are for audio signals because the dock has an audio out! we could connect some irda leds to the pins like shown in this project:
www.irdroid.com
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Quick look on Google shows up this serial IR transceiver made by IguanaWorks. I'm afraid my electronics knowledge is very limited, but could the serial connector be replaced by these Asus-compatible adapters. I suspect the main problem might be the way the transceiver draws charge from the serial port to charge up the capacitor? According to the website, it uses LIRC so either the Irdroid or Androlirc apps might work (Androlirc requires an audio-IR device, so may need some tweaking, but is apparently open-source).
The other option might be the Newkinetix Re - whether it would be possible to replace the iThing connector with the ones you have located. Of course, the app is only for iOS, so yet another stumbling block.
I'm only feeding back the results of my digging, lack any of the required skills to make any of this work, so forgive if it all misses the mark completely.
w04g005 said:
But i have to say that i read today about a new logitech product called: logitech harmony link
www.logitech.com/en-us/remotes/universal-remotes/devices/harmony-link
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Of course, this does also look pretty good, if you don't mind the IR extender "spiders" ... and the fact that the TV guide feature is only available for iPad (grr!)
I thought this thread would be more popular. If the plug didn't cost so much to ship to my country I'd be building a wall charger with a long lead and a car charger.
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That's a nice find! Now if only we knew some technical details about the connector pin-out.. I guess a good start would be looking at what both docks have inside and the connector routings, I doubt they use any external electronics, so should be quite easy to do cool things.
EDIT: at least now we'll be able to do another cable.. buy a standard USB 3.0, cut one end out and solder the new connector. A bit of cleaning everything up and ready to go.
PatrickVogeli said:
That's a nice find! Now if only we knew some technical details about the connector pin-out.. I guess a good start would be looking at what both docks have inside and the connector routings, I doubt they use any external electronics, so should be quite easy to do cool things.
EDIT: at least now we'll be able to do another cable.. buy a standard USB 3.0, cut one end out and solder the new connector. A bit of cleaning everything up and ready to go.
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I finally got my USB Host Kit for the TF, so I can work on the connector pin out. The USB Kit did not work (for me) on the dock 40 pin socket, so apparently there are differences between the Dock and Tablet 40 pin sockets.
Can anyone can confirm the USB Kit does/does not work on the dock 40 pin socket?
Thanks
fisha21 said:
Quick look on Google shows up this serial IR transceiver made by IguanaWorks. I'm afraid my electronics knowledge is very limited, but could the serial connector be replaced by these Asus-compatible adapters. I suspect the main problem might be the way the transceiver draws charge from the serial port to charge up the capacitor? According to the website, it uses LIRC so either the Irdroid or Androlirc apps might work (Androlirc requires an audio-IR device, so may need some tweaking, but is apparently open-source).
The other option might be the Newkinetix Re - whether it would be possible to replace the iThing connector with the ones you have located. Of course, the app is only for iOS, so yet another stumbling block.
I'm only feeding back the results of my digging, lack any of the required skills to make any of this work, so forgive if it all misses the mark completely.
Of course, this does also look pretty good, if you don't mind the IR extender "spiders" ... and the fact that the TV guide feature is only available for iPad (grr!)
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Seems many people like infra-red controls. Here is some pics of the I-Got-Control device for the iPod/iPad/iPhone.
There seems to be only a few lines connected to the Apple 30 pin connector. Does anyone have the pin-out for Apple 30 pin connectors?
I think this might be easily attached to the Asus USB Host or SD adapter.
Thanks!
a backpack style add-on for the TF would be neat...something that adds a battery/usb/etc at the cost of making it a bit fatter and maybe taller..
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Any updates on this?
Amazed at how hard it is to find a 30-pin connector pinout, seems Apple tweaked it a bit as new generations came along.
This is the kind of thread I love to see, on Android+TF!
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
If I were to solder every connector point through a wire, would connecting the dock from the side through the 40 pin connector to the bottom slot of the TF give the same communication as if the TF is docked? Been wanting to "dock" the tablet without actually having them together.
Yeah, it would work, but instead of soldering better find connectors and a cable. I'm thinking of doing it to my USB adaptor (which is very badly done, completely loose).
Bob Smith42 said:
Does anyone have the pin-out for Apple 30 pin connectors?
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Isn't that available all over the net?
pinouts.ru /PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
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I have a Gtab that was being used by the head of the IT department of the place that i work. He has lost BOTH the charger and the usb connector. I was going to just go to radio shack and pick up a charger for it but they need to know what the power requirements are for it and i cant seem to find them anywhere. anyone know what the charger out put is stock on one of these? also is there an easy source for the small port that semi looks like micro usb to standard usb cable?
Thanks in advance
Chad
The stock charger puts out 12 V and 2 amps.
Here's a few
chuddly said:
I have a Gtab that was being used by the head of the IT department of the place that i work. He has lost BOTH the charger and the usb connector. I was going to just go to radio shack and pick up a charger for it but they need to know what the power requirements are for it and i cant seem to find them anywhere. anyone know what the charger out put is stock on one of these? also is there an easy source for the small port that semi looks like micro usb to standard usb cable?
Thanks in advance
Chad
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There are several other vendors that use the same power adapter with different markings on it. Kodak uses them in their digital photo frames and there are several vendors on eBay if you don't mind it coming from China and waiting a month to get it.
This vendor on Amazon has a few in stock (just the adapter). I bet you can get it overnighted.
Link to Amazon seller
If you do want to search for it on the Internet or in eBay use "MPA-630" in the search criteria.
Also, that's a mini-usb port on the side of the gTab, not a micro-usb port.
It also uses the same charger as the Kodak Photo Frame...
Search the web for "MPA-630 power supply" and you will find a replacement.
Rev
P. S. -- Oh, also, the PC to G-Tab cable is just a standard USB to mini-USB cable like is often used on
cameras, mp3 players, etc. USB on the PC side and mini on the G-Tab side.
I just bought a Universal external charger for my Gtab, but I need to know what the polarity should be, can anyone help me with that?
- c- +
That's what's on mine if that helps
pbrauer said:
- c- +
That's what's on mine if that helps
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it does, thank you.
sjmoreno said:
There are several other vendors that use the same power adapter with different markings on it. Kodak uses them in their digital photo frames and there are several vendors on eBay if you don't mind it coming from China and waiting a month to get it.
This vendor on Amazon has a few in stock (just the adapter). I bet you can get it overnighted.
<<URL REMOVED>>
If you do want to search for it on the Internet or in eBay use "MPA-630" in the search criteria.
Also, that's a mini-usb port on the side of the gTab, not a micro-usb port.
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FYI, the PSAD24 (link above) is NOT a compatible substitute for the MPA-630. Please do not make the same mistake I did by purchasing the item linked above for your gTab, as it has a different connector.
Ecrap website has the charger for $23.95
Forum member itsteve's website electroniccrap dot com is selling the oem power supply and as of yesterday had some in stock. Get on it quick because they sell out quick
Not one to relax and enjoy the spoils of war after conquering the Wall/Car charger mystery I have decided to move on to the subject of USB host without the dock. Sorry if I am duplicating other similar threads but starting a new thread helps me through the process of testing. I'm hoping the asus USB host adapter will be out soon so I can gut it like tuna but till then it is back to the rig I used for the charger probing.
Update 10/16/2011
So what we actually now know.
1. USB host mode requires a board found in the USB Host adapter from Asus
2. Some users are having issues with the adapter staying connected. Bad design IMO, too big of a device to be hanging off the tablet connected to thumb drives and other devices.
3. 5V is being supplied to usb devices, I have not personally verified this but will soon.
Some options
1. Build USB Host "Dongle" with connector and USB adapter.
Sounds like people are having disconnection issues, a dongle might be a better solution for that taking the pressure off the connector on the TF and move it down a wire to dongle connector. This will be my first build since it shouldn't be to difficult.
2. Machine a small attachable dock that sits at the bottom of the TF which contains the host adapter, memory cart reader slots and USB ports.
I love this idea but will take time and money I don't have at the moment. BUT drawings are already done and I'm having my machinist put it on his to do list at the bottom. Prototype in 45 days but no promises.
3. Modding a TF to contain the host adapter internally.
This requires you to open up your TF and install the board and a connector. A daunting task for anyone with even good circuit board and fabrication skills. Best person for this job is Bob, but is there space in the case?
Additional Thread and Web resource links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18474358#post18474358
First Mod, Host Adapter dongle.
While building this on I'll looking in to the capability of charging the TF while using the host adapter.
USB adapter shows up tomorrow and I hit the ground running. Pics and updates to come. Stay tuned!
Hey,
Any updates on this? I would love to see a solution to connect USB devices without needing a dock.
Waiting for the official adaptor might take a while: Asus Australia confirmed that the adaptor is not coming any time soon (and maybe never to AUS at all), Asus Germany can't give a specific date.
DevCake said:
Not one to relax and enjoy the spoils of war after conquering the Wall/Car charger mystery I have decided to move on to the subject of USB host without the dock. Sorry if I am duplicating other similar threads but starting a new thread helps me through the process of testing. I'm hoping the asus USB host adapter will be out soon so I can gut it like tuna but till then it is back to the rig I used for the charger probing.
So what do we know
1. Connecting a USB 2.0 female to female coupler using the factor sync/charge cable from the Table to other USB devices does not work.
2. Asus will be releasing an adapter that allows for USB host features and this tells us it can be done.
3. Asus used some of the usb 3.0 pins to show termination from the tablet to start charging at 15V so this method might be in practice for the usb host function.
I've done a little monitoring of data pins on the factory cable but see no difference between when a device is and is not connected. I have a feeling we are dealing with 2 things, 5v power from the tablet to power the usb device and a pin termination to trigger the host function.
~DC
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you can use USB3.0 female to female coupler
paulpll007 said:
you can use USB3.0 female to female coupler
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Have you tried with this adaptor? Do es it works?
Anyone with a USB 3.0 female to female adapter yet?
gordec said:
Anyone with a USB 3.0 female to female adapter yet?
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Following the OP's logic..
I do not believe that a Female to Female USB3 would be enough. I suspect and trying to locate one is a pain that you will need not only a USB3 AF to AF but also a USB3 Powered Hub (or USB 3 Powered Device) as the TF cable does not supply power..
I tried the USB 2 AF to AF path with my powered hub and can confirm it does not work, TF will mount fine on PC via the HUB so it is not a connection problem so I suspect like the OP that we need all the magic pins of a USB3 connection which logically would also mean we all the magic of a USB3 hub (or device) as well..
I cannot find a USB3 AF to Micro AF cable anyplace (They are all male) so even if I can get my hands on a USB3 powered hub (which are also rare) I could not complete this experiment..
I suspect the lack of the OP's postings would also indicate they are having the same trouble as well..
So in summary, I strongly believe we need USB3 Powered Hub + USB 3 Cable from the Hub to the TF Cable
Anyone got those?
Well I done some searching and found these two that should provide all the right specifications for the TF but I am starting to have some significant doubts that this is all worth it considering this is only a theoretical solution based on USB3 pins logic vs just pay the $149 price tag and get the keyboard dock that we know will work..
USB 3.0 Adapter (A Female to Micro B male)
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=1882
ICY BOX 4 Port USB 3.0 Hub
http://www.icybox.com.tw/page/product_accessories/product_accessories-ib-ac610.htm
*sighs*
As I posted in the other usb host thread, the USB adaptor is listed in a German online shop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103784
I just want to know when that damn Asus USB dongle is releasing. I don't need the keyboard dock. Already have a 13.3 laptop.
the same site has also in stock the sd adapter (nice for my photo machine, avail at 19€ as well), and the minidock (2 usb + stand) at 29€.
The sleeve is avail at 34.90€, the vga cable at 29€, and a travel kit at 39€.
Everithing is said being available in 2-4 days...
Last week was baja 500 prep for my but i'm back and moving forward with testing.
Don't waste your time with the female 3.0 adapter. The tablet is using one of the 40 pins on the proprietary adapter to look for termination from the keyboard dock to activate the USB host function. This is my theory but I still will test all 9 of the 3.0 pins.
The only way I will be able to test all 40 pins on the tablet connector is to either find a bare connector or wait for the asus usb adapter and open it. I'll start lookng for a bare connector next Week
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~DC
So no new solutions for hosting on the TF? No new information about the adapter?
Hello guys,
Does anyone try this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-g...on-cable-Micro-SD-card-cable-wholesalers.html
maxmen123 said:
So no new solutions for hosting on the TF? No new information about the adapter?
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Nothing yet on either. The adapter from Asus has not shown up anywhere and I'm still in testing mode for a DIY solution.
vaystikh said:
Hello guys,
Does anyone try this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-g...on-cable-Micro-SD-card-cable-wholesalers.html
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I don't see a reason why that won't work but my focus is to activate the host function so that USB devices will be recognized and accessible.
DevCake said:
Last week was baja 500 prep for my but i'm back and moving forward with testing.
Don't waste your time with the female 3.0 adapter. The tablet is using one of the 40 pins on the proprietary adapter to look for termination from the keyboard dock to activate the USB host function. This is my theory but I still will test all 9 of the 3.0 pins.
~DC
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Thanks DevCake looking forward to seeing some more results.. I would not be surprised if your theory is correct.. I not gone down the Female adapter path yet until we can verify exactly why USB Host is not being enabled..
DevCake said:
Nothing yet on either. The adapter from Asus has not shown up anywhere and I'm still in testing mode for a DIY solution.
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The adapter has shown up in a German online shop (cyberport.de, search for "usb extension kit" or "sd extension kit") and is listed as in Stock. I wrote them an email to get confirmation that they really have it in Stock and shippable. Maybe somebody in Germany can make a teardown and show us the internals!
betaw said:
The adapter has shown up in a German online shop (cyberport.de, search for "usb extension kit" or "sd extension kit") and is listed as in Stock. I wrote them an email to get confirmation that they really have it in Stock and shippable. Maybe somebody in Germany can make a teardown and show us the internals!
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If you google "1D09-36X" it comes up with other EU sites that carry it. Hopefully it won't be long till we get it in the US.
Does anyone happen to know the type/model/name of the connector is.
Maybe we can find something that is the same pin config and cut it open and splice in a usb 3.0 female cable.
I've spliced many a cable together for similar purposes, just need the connector end.
We as reseller have direct contact with asus. I called today Asus Netherlands about the usb host adapter.
Atm this moment there only 2 accessoires on the market, which are as follow:
- Asus Sleeve
- Asus Dock
The Sales Manager at Asus Netherlands told me that several other people asked for the USB Host adapter also. They said it wont be on the market until 3th quarter of the year (Aug/Sept/Oct).
Asus Taiwain puts these items on the market. Asus Taiwan understands that there is some demand for this USB Adapter.
So, we have to wait until 3th qaurter 2011 or try to fabricate something ourselfs or wait for some crazy chinese which puts something similiar on the market.
Hello everyone,
I understand that the GPS Dongle for the Prime occupies the ASUS 40-pin, which means it won't allow the dock to be used. I'm just wondering whether it is possible in the future to have a cable with compatible ends at both side? Of course it should be male/female to be used with the dock's left hand side female.
This way, theoretically, I would be a able to use my Prime, dock and the GPS Dongle all together while travelling. But I'm not sure that it's possible, even if such cable exists... sometime in the future.
Probably some of you out there have any opinions regarding this matter.
No cable for this currently exists.
However one could be made, if the connector is a straight pass through then it would work. If the connector however only utilizes certain pins then it would either need to be modified or replaced.
Either way it will take some experimentation.
The easy way for now is to remove the device form the plastic housing and plug it into the dock to see if it works.
flyingwolf said:
No cable for this currently exists.
However one could be made, if the connector is a straight pass through then it would work. If the connector however only utilizes certain pins then it would either need to be modified or replaced.
Either way it will take some experimentation.
The easy way for now is to remove the device form the plastic housing and plug it into the dock to see if it works.
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Yes, I understand that it cannot be done at this moment. But theoretically it might work, right? Or is there something in the dock prevents the GPS to get connected to the Prime? Such thing like, power line (charging) is more priority and is using the same pins?
suroboyo said:
Yes, I understand that it cannot be done at this moment. But theoretically it might work, right? Or is there something in he dock prevents the GPS to get connected to the Prime? Such thing like, power line (charging) is more priority and is using the same pins?
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Theoretically time travel is possible, anyhing is possible theoretically,
But to answer your question, no there are no pins which share data/power.
The only worry is that the dock female connector may only be power and ground, no data, I know this to not be true as I rooted while in the dock, so all pins pass through from what I can tell.
It looks like for ease of manufacture all o the connectors are the same on the tablet, the dock and the dock plug.
A wire or new housing should be easy enough to fab up.
I will test this tonight.
flyingwolf said:
Theoretically time travel is possible, anyhing is possible theoretically,
But to answer your question, no there are no pins which share data/power.
The only worry is that the dock female connector may only be power and ground, no data, I know this to not be true as I rooted while in the dock, so all pins pass through from what I can tell.
It looks like for ease of manufacture all o the connectors are the same on the tablet, the dock and the dock plug.
A wire or new housing should be easy enough to fab up.
I will test this tonight.
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gps dongle doesnt work when plugged into the dock, i tried it and the dongle isnt recognized. The dock doesnt have the proper lines routed to the connector.
bjohnston115 said:
gps dongle doesnt work when plugged into the dock, i tried it and the dongle isnt recognized. The dock doesnt have the proper lines routed to the connector.
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Thanks for testing this out.
This means we will need to open the dock and connect the lines that are not connected if we wish for this to work.
Though it seems to me that this may be a specific doc pin being recognized...
bjohnston115 said:
gps dongle doesnt work when plugged into the dock, i tried it and the dongle isnt recognized. The dock doesnt have the proper lines routed to the connector.
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Thanks a lot...
a little bit pity 'though, since I have a plan to use them all together on the road.
im currently in the process of tracking down which pins are used in the dongle, unfortunately i only have one dock and its too expensive for me to start ripping it apart however hopefully with the information im gathering and information others are gathering we can get a pinout for the dongle as well as the prime and dock to better understand how everything works
I am having difficulty with Asus support. Would like to buy a GPS Dongle if a member does not need it. Thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25705747#post25705747
mlee1999 said:
I am having difficulty with Asus support. Would like to buy a GPS Dongle if a member does not need it. Thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25705747#post25705747
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I have an extra one i could prolly get to you, you would have to pay for shipping and whatnot.... check your PM's and send me an email.
more experiments
flyingwolf said:
Theoretically time travel is possible, anyhing is possible theoretically,
But to answer your question, no there are no pins which share data/power.
The only worry is that the dock female connector may only be power and ground, no data, I know this to not be true as I rooted while in the dock, so all pins pass through from what I can tell.
It looks like for ease of manufacture all o the connectors are the same on the tablet, the dock and the dock plug.
A wire or new housing should be easy enough to fab up.
I will test this tonight.
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I have one of the SD CARD adapters for the prime (I purchased while waiting for the keyboard). I plugged it into the keyboard power port with an SD CARD inserted and the prime did NOT see it.
I think the port on the keyboard is power only
Hey guys I'm wondering if any of you have encountered this cable before
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessory-family-page-1/1080p-HDMI-Cable-(15ft)/15-ft-hdmi-cable.html
I bought 3, with the idea to use them with my Nexus 6 but low and behold they actually don't fit. Any idea Why? I'm sure its made for a certain brand of phones, (I thought Motorola) but apparently not.
dynamo147 said:
Hey guys I'm wondering if any of you have encountered this cable before
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessory-family-page-1/1080p-HDMI-Cable-(15ft)/15-ft-hdmi-cable.html
I bought 3, with the idea to use them with my Nexus 6 but low and behold they actually don't fit. Any idea Why? I'm sure its made for a certain brand of phones, (I thought Motorola) but apparently not.
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That actually says that it is an HDMI cable, not an MHL-HDMI cable or other similar such cable that has HDMI on one end and uUSB on the other. Looks like it has a micro-HDMI on one end, and a regular-HDMI on the other. Nexus 6 does NOT have a micro-HDMI socket.
Also remember that Motorola sells things that are NOT EVEN PHONES, like video baby monitors. Maybe some of their video baby monitors have HDMI output so you can plug it into a TV and swap input when you need to check on the little one.
In any case, you'd be better off with a chromecast than a cable. No point in tying yourself with a wire when you can just select "cast screen" from the main pulldown menu.
That is for the Motorola XOOM. The XOOM tablet has a micro-HDMI output port. My Nexus 10 tablet has it also. It's not for the Nexus 6.
doitright said:
That actually says that it is an HDMI cable, not an MHL-HDMI cable or other similar such cable that has HDMI on one end and uUSB on the other. Looks like it has a micro-HDMI on one end, and a regular-HDMI on the other. Nexus 6 does NOT have a micro-HDMI socket.
Also remember that Motorola sells things that are NOT EVEN PHONES, like video baby monitors. Maybe some of their video baby monitors have HDMI output so you can plug it into a TV and swap input when you need to check on the little one.
In any case, you'd be better off with a chromecast than a cable. No point in tying yourself with a wire when you can just select "cast screen" from the main pulldown menu.
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Ah yes I love chromecast i'm using it right now to watch crunchy roll lol, just that I felt that the cable would be easier to use in cases where there isn't a wifi network I can set up with but nevertheless thanks for the info! didn't know there was such a thing as MHL-HDMI it just, like you said, really looks like it has a micro-HDMI on the end, unfortunately for me lol
PaisanNYC said:
That is for the Motorola XOOM. The XOOM tablet has a micro-HDMI output port. My Nexus 10 tablet has it also. It's not for the Nexus 6.
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Ahh I see! Shame because I got really excited about being able to carry the cable around wherever I go lol
dynamo147 said:
Ahh I see! Shame because I got really excited about being able to carry the cable around wherever I go lol
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
dynamo147 said:
Ah yes I love chromecast i'm using it right now to watch crunchy roll lol, just that I felt that the cable would be easier to use in cases where there isn't a wifi network I can set up with but nevertheless thanks for the info! didn't know there was such a thing as MHL-HDMI it just, like you said, really looks like it has a micro-HDMI on the end, unfortunately for me lol
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Actually.... you know that you can set up a chromecast to connect to your "android wifi tether" AP? You will need to use a different device to configure the chromecast than the one acting as an AP, but once done, you just activate wifi tethering, plug in the chromecast, and there you have it without even needing a local wifi network!
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Here is a claim that slimport will work with a simple configuration edit;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57649906&postcount=39
*HOWEVER*, there are no details.
doitright said:
Actually.... you know that you can set up a chromecast to connect to your "android wifi tether" AP? You will need to use a different device to configure the chromecast than the one acting as an AP, but once done, you just activate wifi tethering, plug in the chromecast, and there you have it without even needing a local wifi network!
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Here is a claim that slimport will work with a simple configuration edit;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57649906&postcount=39
*HOWEVER*, there are no details.
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That guy was a troll. The hardware is not in the nexus 6 for either Slimport OR MHL.
Personally, I use chromecast to mirror my screen in the house as well as in my car on my Appradio3. I do as you said with the hotspot on my nexus 6 with the chromecast set to connect to it.
PaisanNYC said:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
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Yeah it happens >,<, welp the more you know!
doitright said:
Actually.... you know that you can set up a chromecast to connect to your "android wifi tether" AP? You will need to use a different device to configure the chromecast than the one acting as an AP, but once done, you just activate wifi tethering, plug in the chromecast, and there you have it without even needing a local wifi network!
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Here is a claim that slimport will work with a simple configuration edit;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57649906&postcount=39
*HOWEVER*, there are no details.
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Oh snap that would be like a crap ton easier >,< truth lol learned something new
Nacho~ said:
That guy was a troll. The hardware is not in the nexus 6 for either Slimport OR MHL.
Personally, I use chromecast to mirror my screen in the house as well as in my car on my Appradio3. I do as you said with the hotspot on my nexus 6 with the chromecast set to connect to it.
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Do trolls really have nothing better to do :/? But yeah that hotspot idea sounds pretty good ^.^
Nacho~ said:
That guy was a troll. The hardware is not in the nexus 6 for either Slimport OR MHL.
Personally, I use chromecast to mirror my screen in the house as well as in my car on my Appradio3. I do as you said with the hotspot on my nexus 6 with the chromecast set to connect to it.
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Could be. However....
The *hardware* is definitely there -- mhl/slimport is built in to the SoC, and there must be a USB switch in order for it to even select between different USB modes. The only actual question is whether or not it is wired correctly. I *HATE* it when hardware vendors wire things wrong.
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Could be. However....
The *hardware* is definitely there -- mhl/slimport is built in to the SoC, and there must be a USB switch in order for it to even select between different USB modes. The only actual question is whether or not it is wired correctly. I *HATE* it when hardware vendors wire things wrong.
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Couldnt it also be true that the actualy micro USB port is missing the required pins for slimport or mhl? Not every micro usb is created equal.
Nacho~ said:
Couldnt it also be true that the actualy micro USB port is missing the required pins for slimport or mhl? Not every micro usb is created equal.
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Nope. EVERY uUSB plug *IS* created equal.
MHL does not use any pins in the USB plug that are otherwise not there. USB plugs, whether they are MHL or not, have precisely 5 pins;
+5VDC, GRD, D+, D-, ID.
ALL of the pins are required and NOT OPTIONAL.
D+ and D- are the actual data pins.
+5 and GRD are POWER.
ID is the "type selection" pin.
Behind the plug itself, is a SWITCH, which is controlled by the state of the ID pin. The amount of resistance between the ID pin and GRD determines what "mode" the switch is in. And yes, there is a switch, since it is well established that the device DOES support USB OTG.
So on one side of the switch, is a USB plug. On the other side is USB HOST, USB OTG, MHL, TTY, and a bunch of other kinds of functions. Like I said, ID determines what the USB plug is actually connected to.
But like I said, I can't tell you if the MHL wires between the switch and the SoC are physically present.
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Nope. EVERY uUSB plug *IS* created equal.
MHL does not use any pins in the USB plug that are otherwise not there. USB plugs, whether they are MHL or not, have precisely 5 pins;
+5VDC, GRD, D+, D-, ID.
ALL of the pins are required and NOT OPTIONAL.
D+ and D- are the actual data pins.
+5 and GRD are POWER.
ID is the "type selection" pin.
Behind the plug itself, is a SWITCH, which is controlled by the state of the ID pin. The amount of resistance between the ID pin and GRD determines what "mode" the switch is in. And yes, there is a switch, since it is well established that the device DOES support USB OTG.
So on one side of the switch, is a USB plug. On the other side is USB HOST, USB OTG, MHL, TTY, and a bunch of other kinds of functions. Like I said, ID determines what the USB plug is actually connected to.
But like I said, I can't tell you if the MHL wires between the switch and the SoC are physically present.
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Well sir. That was an excellent post. Thank you for kindly explaining. I concede.
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Nope. EVERY uUSB plug *IS* created equal.
MHL does not use any pins in the USB plug that are otherwise not there. USB plugs, whether they are MHL or not, have precisely 5 pins;
+5VDC, GRD, D+, D-, ID.
ALL of the pins are required and NOT OPTIONAL.
D+ and D- are the actual data pins.
+5 and GRD are POWER.
ID is the "type selection" pin.
Behind the plug itself, is a SWITCH, which is controlled by the state of the ID pin. The amount of resistance between the ID pin and GRD determines what "mode" the switch is in. And yes, there is a switch, since it is well established that the device DOES support USB OTG.
So on one side of the switch, is a USB plug. On the other side is USB HOST, USB OTG, MHL, TTY, and a bunch of other kinds of functions. Like I said, ID determines what the USB plug is actually connected to.
But like I said, I can't tell you if the MHL wires between the switch and the SoC are physically present.
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Thank you very much for posting that. I learned a lot!
Someone here may find this to be highly interesting;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/c38529bf56dae15e70022641d6b15b4b856d33fb
doitright said:
Someone here may find this to be highly interesting;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/c38529bf56dae15e70022641d6b15b4b856d33fb
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So, I guess the question becomes:
What would have to be done to achieve hardware video output on a Nexus 6?
doitright said:
Someone here may find this to be highly interesting;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/c38529bf56dae15e70022641d6b15b4b856d33fb
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So I'm not really code savy or phone hardware adept, but I figure that the disabled string would have to be changed to enabled annnnnd, the N6 might have to be opened a tad to expose the port to make the necessary changes?
dynamo147 said:
So I'm not really code savy or phone hardware adept, but I figure that the disabled string would have to be changed to enabled annnnnd, the N6 might have to be opened a tad to expose the port to make the necessary changes?
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That's my best guess as well (my skill level is definitely low), but I doubt it's so simple.
Hello everyone,
Motivated by my tablet's failing USB connector and the great difficult of importing an original B&N charging dock (I'm overseas right now), I decided to try and see whether I could DIY a charging connector mysef, that would connect to the "quick connector" in the tablet's bottom.
First the good news:
I discovered that a standard 0.1" (2.54mm) PCB header like these has the exact pin size/spacing to make contact with the quick connector. So, no need to "fabricate" a connector from separate pins.
I used a digital multimeter to measure voltage on the pins, with the tablet both on and off, and with a USB charger both disconnected and connected, and apparently pin #1 (counting from the left when holding the tablet in landscape mode and looking at its front) is +5VDC, and pin #2 is GND (pin #3 seems to be a direct connection to pin #2 -- they are always at the exact same voltage --, and pins #9 and #10 seem to be +D/-D, not necessarily in that order).
Now the bad news:
I connected a 5V power supply to pins #1 and #2 as above (ie, +5VDC to pin #1 and GND to pin #2), but the tablet doesn' t react in any way (doesn't light up and show the "charging screen" when powered off, nor shows the "lightning bold" charging indicator in the battery icon in the notifier when powered on).
I tried changing GND to pin #3 (see above), with the same lack of results.
The moderately good news is that my attempt did not "fry" anything, the tablet kept working the same as before.
Does anyone have any more info on this "quick connector", or perhaps a better "solution" to my failing USB connector issue (I would be willing to disassemble and replace the USB connector, but I've searched Youtube and iFixIt to try and find a how-to-disassemble video, to no avail. The best I could find was these "internal photos" from the tablet' s FCC submission, but it doesn't show how to open it, and I see no screws nor anything -- not willing to try prying it open at the seams and risk cracking the case or worse).
Thanks in advance,
-- Durval.
Durval,
I came here from your posts on the GitHub issue. You've done some interesting work so far!
It's interesting that you found the pins are just like USB. I wonder if the Nook uses some sort of protocol to negotiate charging over the Pogo pins, like Apple devices put a resistor across the D pins IIRC.
I know someone who's replaced the battery so they might be able to guide you with opening the device. Their discord channel is here (they also posted in the GitHub issue). You might be able to buy a cheap Micro USB port and solder it into the board.
tgp1994 said:
Durval,
I came here from your posts on the GitHub issue. You've done some interesting work so far!
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Glad to hear you like it!
tgp1994 said:
It's interesting that you found the pins are just like USB. I wonder if the Nook uses some sort of protocol to negotiate charging over the Pogo pins, like Apple devices put a resistor across the D pins IIRC.
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It could be. I also remember that a long time ago (like, 2008) I had an original (pre-Android) Motorola Razr which wouldn't charge except in a computer or with Motorola's own charger. I was thinking of full-blow USB connect negotiation... but you are right, it could be just a resistor or something.
I'm just not too keen on connecting more 'stuff' into those pins by trial and error, specially the supposed D+/D- things... I've managed to not fry the device so far, but one never knows when one's luck is running out until it finally does...
tgp1994 said:
I know someone who's replaced the battery so they might be able to guide you with opening the device. Their discord channel is here (they also posted in the GitHub issue). You might be able to buy a cheap Micro USB port and solder it into the board.
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Many thanks for the Discord link! I will be sure to contact them and learn what I can re: opening the device.
Cheers,
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Durval.
Just keeping the thread posted: I posted a similar question on the Discord server linked above, here's what I got:
Ryzen5-3600 | iPhone 12 Pro Gold — Today at 9:13 AMIt's really difficult to open the Nook Tablet. Mine had a cracked screen so it was easier to open up the device. The screen is made out of this really cheap plastic, it breaks so easily. My guess is to get like a small plastic guitar pick and pry open the back.
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You might have to get like 3 or 4 for safe measures to help keep it open so it won't close shut again
So, I think it's better to refrain from trying and opening my Nook, at least for now ;-)
I'm trying to get a dock, when/if I get one I will open it and see for myself what the heck it does to make the Nook recognize it.
I will keep this thread posted.
Cheers,
-- Durval.
Two years late to the party, but I recently purchased two of the 10.1" nook keyboard covers @ my local B&N for $5 each, to play around with. If my suspicions are correct, and this keyboard controller outputs USB, the first four pins left to right should be GND, (I assume D+, D-), then I assume VCC.
I might be wrong. But I'm fairly confident that GND is pin 1- continuity between the pin and the ground pin on the keyboard controller PCB.
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Two years late to the party, but I recently purchased two of the 10.1" nook keyboard covers @ my local B&N for $5 each, to play around with. If my suspicions are correct, and this keyboard controller outputs USB, the first four pins left to right should be GND, (I assume D+, D-), then I assume VCC.
I might be wrong. But I'm fairly confident that GND is pin 1- continuity between the pin and the ground pin on the keyboard controller PCB.
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Did you have any luck? I bought the same keyboard for $4 at my B&N and just tore it apart. Turns out it only uses 5 of the 10 pins. The white box in the pic was pulled off so it originally did fit slightly more forward. Hopefully you can tell where it's supose to go.