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I've been using all kinds of TeamWhiskey ROMs for a while now, as well as a few other Eclair ones a long time ago, and the built-in battery use monitor (the one in the settings menu) only shows Display, WiFi, System, and Cell idle. I remember actual apps being displayed there; what happened to that? I know there are other apps to do this (in fact I have one), but since this one is running all the time anyways, why not make it work? Anyone know a fix?
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thanks for a good question; i was wondering why as well.. im guessing it has something to do with how froyo handles system processes and other apps and such. but it's still not clear why it would only show just a few random internal processes. anyone?
I actually use "system panel" this will graph usage and a lot more. So if you are want to play battery techie, this is useful. Frankly, I have not had any problem with batter usage since the Froyo roms came out in Dec.
hi all,
yeah I've noticed the same thing. I'm currently on stock 2.2 and don't know why the battery use monitor isn't giving us any info about 3rd party apps. just system processes.
Even playing Angry birds or Gun Bros for an hour a piece with battery draining 15-20% still doesn't make it to the list.
very strange, I've also made a note of it on the T-mobile forums under 2.2 bugs.
Thanks oka for recommending "system panel" does it really provide a good amount of info?
ptJeffree said:
hi all,
yeah I've noticed the same thing. I'm currently on stock 2.2 and don't know why the battery use monitor isn't giving us any info about 3rd party apps. just system processes.
Even playing Angry birds or Gun Bros for an hour a piece with battery draining 15-20% still doesn't make it to the list.
very strange, I've also made a note of it on the T-mobile forums under 2.2 bugs.
Thanks oka for recommending "system panel" does it really provide a good amount of info?
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Yeah, it does. That's what I use if I really need to figure out what's killing my battery.
Anyone tried out Greenify on the Rezound? Running stock rooted w/ latest OTA and just installed it. Not greenify'ing a ton of apps. Mainly facebook, some weather apps, and a few others that wake the device semi-frequently. Leaving gmail/hangouts/google+/gvoice running. So far it almost seems like battery is draining faster but betterbatterystats doesn't show greenify as a drain(or the apps I've hibernated). Curious if others have tried it out and their experience.
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Anyone tried out Greenify on the Rezound? Running stock rooted w/ latest OTA and just installed it. Not greenify'ing a ton of apps. Mainly facebook, some weather apps, and a few others that wake the device semi-frequently. Leaving gmail/hangouts/google+/gvoice running. So far it almost seems like battery is draining faster but betterbatterystats doesn't show greenify as a drain(or the apps I've hibernated). Curious if others have tried it out and their experience.
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I'm using it and see an ok difference. Nothing crazy though, granted I'm not a super power-hungry user either, just standard use throughout the day at work etc. My greenified apps are: airdroid; maps; pandora; facebook
I feel those are enough and nothing else is really necessary imo. I'm sure it has an effect just depends on what you use and how often you use it.
I'm using it (on CM 10.1) but I have noticed a difference. Its not huge, but there definitely is one (I've been watching my battery statistics). I'd definitely recommend installing it when you get to that inevitable point where you can actually feel your phone slowing down. A friend of mine put it on his GS3, and the improvement was notable. It's one of those apps that you wish came with the OS. Whether you feel that you need it or not, it doesn't hurt.
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For me, it's that warm fuzzy feeling knowing those apps aren't running 24x7. I personally haven't noticed a difference but again, peace of mind. I do like the widget for it but I've only been able to get it to work on 4.2.X and I'm back on EclipticRez and 4.0.3
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i use it on my HTC incredible 4g and it works great. on average about 10% more battery life on a super aggressive setup
Good afternoon-
Great phone, but has anyone else had bad operating system luck? Seems like my phone is freezing and/or locking up daily, and needs to be re-booted. If it were windows I'd call it a BSOD incident. My S3 running Paranoid Android nightlies was even more stable than this.
Tim
I am not having problems like you report at all. The only lockups I had were during the brief period when I ran under ART, and they went away completely after I switched back to Dalvik. Note that under ART my G3 got really hot...
That is what I think is causing most of these phones troubles. I think they were designed in a way that is prone to overheating issues. I also think the designers tried their best to avoid overheating through throttling - which causes some performance degradation, and doesn't always work anyway.
Minor assembly differences could be causing major differences in how different G3s heat-load. This could explain why some owners who have reported lockup issues like yours have gotten much improvement by exchanging their phone, which is what I suggest you do if you can.
moonfarm said:
Good afternoon-
Great phone, but has anyone else had bad operating system luck? Seems like my phone is freezing and/or locking up daily, and needs to be re-booted. If it were windows I'd call it a BSOD incident. My S3 running Paranoid Android nightlies was even more stable than this.
Tim
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I agree with Trent. Seems some G3s just don't run well. Mine runs great. I have it rooted with xposed and have removed the bloat and no issues at all. I couldn't be happier.
I've even played some games for the first time on my smartphone including Asphalt 8 and I've played it for about an hour non stop the other night while I had time to kill and still no issues, the game played great, phone didn't heat up and get laggy.... Nothing. It just played.
Hard to say really what's causing the issues for some, could be a funky device, maybe a factory reset would help... Maybe people also should take a look at what apps and widgets they have running as well prior to thinking the phone is junk lol not saying that's you, just an idea
- Tapatalked from the G3
moonfarm said:
Good afternoon-
Great phone, but has anyone else had bad operating system luck? Seems like my phone is freezing and/or locking up daily, and needs to be re-booted. If it were windows I'd call it a BSOD incident. My S3 running Paranoid Android nightlies was even more stable than this.
Tim
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No problems with mine.
What apps and widget are you using?
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No problems with mine.
What apps and widget are you using?
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It's a pretty random problem, hasn't happened for a couple of days. I run a pretty lean system, not a lot of apps or widgets. Maybe getting rid of some bloat would help. Thanks all, nice to know it's not something everyone is going through. I'm enjoying the phone more than I thought I would, been on the S series since the first Galaxy Fascinate, so this was a bit of a leap. The combo of Knox and Touchwiz did me in...
Tim
I'm wondering if the accessibility service has anything to do with these random shutdowns. I've never turned on ART, but with several xposed mods, tweaksbox, and some debloating, my phone seemed stable for the first few weeks I owned it. One day I had a random reboot. It didn't happen again for a week or so, and then it happened once more. A few days later I noticed one of my tasker scripts (which reroutes gmail notification sounds through the headset iff the headset is connected) wasn't working. I checked the tasker accessibility service and it had turned itself off. After re-enabling it, my random shutdowns soon returned.
Anyone care to try ART with all accessibility services uninstalled? This would include talkback.
Hi all
Hope this is the right place for this question.
I have a Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 and it is all up to date with updates etc. Android 5.1.1
I have seen this asked a lot on the web...why is my phone so hot and why is the battery draining so quickly?
I have tried Clean Master and the Battery hibernator (same as Greenify?)
I have tried Doze
I have tried Netguard...never gave it a good chance
I have tried an app called Cooldown or something like that.
I have tried clean up
I installed a GSAM battery monitor and it said that google play services was the culprit. I ran a program called Gservice fix that seemed to help temporarily.
I have deleted all of those apps and same issue persists.
It seems to be worse when I am not on wifi. using the LTE network , so I am wondering if that may be a clue.
I took it to the Sprint store and of course the guy said to do a factory reboot. I know that that is the last option, but I was wondering if there is anything in 2016 that may help me get my phone back to a state where I don't have to have it worry about my battery draining.
Leaving town Tuesday so I would love to see if I can improve this issue!
A million thanks to everyone who reads this and tries to help us out!
Mikeinstlouis
Please post a screenshot of your battery stats / Details, before you make any further changes.
Thanks
Salman Al-Badgail
What's the best way to go about that? Go into my settings and look for the battery?
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What's the best way to go about that? Go into my settings and look for the battery?
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Yes go into settings, go to battery, battery usage (something like that) and take a screenshot of the main battery users. I suggest you turn off sync when you are not using it. That uses a lot of background usage to sync everything. Also, keep the screen brightness down. Screen usage is the number 1 culprit for (normal) android users. Just get back to us with the info.
My battery seem to do a little bit better, not great but a little bit better. But I think it may be because I'm on Wi-Fi. Not sure what I did differently
The issue seems to occur when I am on LTE, not Wi-Fi. How can I uninstall Google Play services updates when its great out? I've read several places that it's helped other people
Did a fresh install on my X1m3 and was quite surprised to find I could watch the battery life trickle down before my eyes despite a 4500 mAh battery. AccuBattery reports 96% estimated health, estimated capacity 4327 mAh, which is within acceptable tolerances, and I've just done a 0% to 100% charge to train the charge algorithm.
Even with 60 Hz mode on the screen and brightness between 40% and 50%, I still think battery drain is higher than it should be on the shipped Android 11 update. I have about 100 apps total, most of which are passive / load-then-close things (small utilities etc). Minimal social media apps, the usual IM apps. Nothing extravagant. SOT seems to literally bleed battery life and I've already had a few device overheat / service stop thermal protection / camera app shutdown warnings in just two days of use.
Is the Snapdragon 888 really that bad? Reviews I read prior indicated that while not stellar, the SOT and battery life in standard suites of usage tests showed that the device seemed broadly on par with most current gen handsets, give or take an hour or two.
Battery life at the moment only seems marginally better than my three year old S9 with about 80% battery health and severe screen-on drain (per AccuBattery and a separate Samsung diagnosis); that is to say, slightly disappointing. Does anyone else's experiences reflect this? Anything you did with a boxfresh device that improves its battery life from what I've experienced, or is this partly the woes of early Android 11 adoption?
Find the apks running in the background and deal with each on a case by case basis.
With internet/phone connected the drain should less than 1%@hr when not in use.
My 10+ with less efficient ram gets that with AOD on, but it was a battery guzzling hog before it was optimized.
blackhawk said:
Find the apks running in the background and deal with each on a case by case basis.
With internet/phone connected the drain should less than 1%@hr when not in use.
My 10+ with less efficient ram gets that with AOD on, but it was a battery guzzling hog before it was optimized.
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Indeed, that's what I was expecting. I'm close to 1.7%/hr with screen off. When the screen's on, I can quite quickly decrement the battery just with it sat idling or with an empty Chrome window open.
I read elsewhere on xda that some Samsung users who upgraded to Android 11 were suffering from excessive drain in Chrome until they forcibly suspended it, is that a bug which was subsequently fixed or is there another reason behind that behaviour? Weird background sync issues?
I've gone through again tonight, disabling and force muting notifications from any apps I suspect to be hogs, and I've permission granted BBS through ADB to see if I can nail any more details. Unfortunately looks like BBS needs some work to be more compatible with Android 11 or the Xperia OS build.
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Indeed, that's what I was expecting. I'm close to 1.7%/hr with screen off. When the screen's on, I can quite quickly decrement the battery just with it sat idling or with an empty Chrome window open.
I read elsewhere on xda that some Samsung users who upgraded to Android 11 were suffering from excessive drain in Chrome until they forcibly suspended it, is that a bug which was subsequently fixed or is there another reason behind that behaviour? Weird background sync issues?
I've gone through again tonight, disabling and force muting notifications from any apps I suspect to be hogs, and I've permission granted BBS through ADB to see if I can nail any more details. Unfortunately looks like BBS needs some work to be more compatible with Android 11 or the Xperia OS build.
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Be careful with the edits... dependencies.
Names can be deceiving. Make your own list and know exactly what you're disabling.
I prefer to use a Package Disabler as it gives you on the fly control. PM if you want a link for that (some knucklehead FM here thought I was a salesperson for posting the link).
Likely suspects; any cloud apk, Google play Services, Google backup Transport, Framework and Google Firebase. Playstore is another one that constantly pecks away at the battery.
Clear system cache, Google play Services, Transport and Framework data.
Try disabling Google play Services at night see what that does. It kills a lot of birds with one stone. Normally unless I need to use one of it's dependencies, I leave it disabled.
Go through -all- the Google settings. Disable Google, carrier, app and Sony feedback. Use Karma Firewall to lock down apps that don't need internet access. Set Gmail to manual sync.
Use the setting below to kill ads globally.
Sheesh, if I have to stop/delete/uninstall/disable all this stuff I might as well go back to a land line with an answering machine. I mean didn't he say he has 100 apps? What in the world are 100 apps used for? How long has he actually had the phone in his possession? Maybe a few days are needed to let the battery settle down? Instead of stopping all the so-called necessary Google stuff, why not stop/uninstall about 90 apps and see how it goes?
That is not normal. Battery life is solid for me and have minimal drain. Try resetting and see if phone is like that with no apps installed for a day
jaseman said:
Sheesh, if I have to stop/delete/uninstall/disable all this stuff I might as well go back to a land line with an answering machine. I mean didn't he say he has 100 apps? What in the world are 100 apps used for? How long has he actually had the phone in his possession? Maybe a few days are needed to let the battery settle down? Instead of stopping all the so-called necessary Google stuff, why not stop/uninstall about 90 apps and see how it goes?
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Each user and Android device is unique.
So is its optimization.
This is no plain Jane iPhone.
You get what you put into Android.
That's why kids do so well with them... they play with it.
jporter396 said:
That is not normal. Battery life is solid for me and have minimal drain. Try resetting and see if phone is like that with no apps installed for a day
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Unless you have uninstallable malware or did a major firmware update a factory reset doesn't find the root cause. Meaning it's likely to reoccur.
It's preferable to find and correct the cause... and you learn this way.
Running in Safe mode will give a good idea if it's a 3rd party app causing the issue.
Occasionally poorly written apps will change hidden settings not normally accessible to the user. These will remain even if you uninstall it.
If you can't find (sometimes reloading the app and changing the setting there, then uninstalling it works) and correct, factory reset.
Meh, never load a bunch of unknown apps at once. Load, observe, then decide if it's doing what you want.
Make installable copies of all your trusted apps for future use and archive them. Sooner or latter you will need those...
blackhawk said:
Each user and Android device is unique.
So is its optimization.
This is no plain Jane iPhone.
You get what you put into Android.
That's why kids do so well with them... they play with it.
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Well, I understand that...this is not my first cell phone, and I usually do NOT have all the issues so many others have. And when I ask myself WHY??? I can only conclude that my 25 years as a Systems Engineer certainly helps, as well as the fact that I use my cell phone primarily as a communications device...you know as they were originally intended. But I also do a number of other things such as banking, internet access, mapping, etc., etc. However, I highly doubt that the problem with overheating, or rapid battery drain is attributable to Google's services (though once in awhile a rogue update can cause problems) but rather the problem inevitably lies with all the 3rd party apps that many load up on their phones. Another leading contributor is not setting the phone up properly out of the box. A recommendation that I always offer when setting up a new phone is this: NEVER allow Google to reinstall all your apps from a backup! NEVER!!!
Just bite the bullet and install them from scratch yourself! This way you are getting a CLEAN/Pristine start! Windows has allowed "upgrades" from one OS to another for years, and while you may have no real problems on your home PC, doing an upgrade on a server will get you fired! That is a MAJOR no-no. Why not, when it would save so much time and effort? Because you are dragging all the detritus left over form the previous version into a new build. Then, if and when problems arise, and they certainly will, you may NEVER be able to determine the cause! Now if this happens on your phone the worst thing is to do a factory reset - YUK - but it's not the end of the companies business, or your livelihood! Try to do this on a server that has already been deployed and I would rather get a root canal without Novocain while actively charged electrodes were anchored to my feet!
So then, NEVER allow Google to reinstall your apps from a backup. Start clean, learn what to turn off/adjust in settings, and load your apps one at a time. Give your battery a few days to settle in, that is to learn your habits of use and you should be OK. YMMV
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Well, I understand that...this is not my first cell phone, and I usually do NOT have all the issues so many others have. And when I ask myself WHY??? I can only conclude that my 25 years as a Systems Engineer certainly helps, as well as the fact that I use my cell phone primarily as a communications device...you know as they were originally intended. But I also do a number of other things such as banking, internet access, mapping, etc., etc. However, I highly doubt that the problem with overheating, or rapid battery drain is attributable to Google's services (though once in awhile a rogue update can cause problems) but rather the problem inevitably lies with all the 3rd party apps that many load up on their phones. Another leading contributor is not setting the phone up properly out of the box. A recommendation that I always offer when setting up a new phone is this: NEVER allow Google to reinstall all your apps from a backup! NEVER!!!
Just bite the bullet and install them from scratch yourself! This way you are getting a CLEAN/Pristine start! Windows has allowed "upgrades" from one OS to another for years, and while you may have no real problems on your home PC, doing an upgrade on a server will get you fired! That is a MAJOR no-no. Why not, when it would save so much time and effort? Because you are dragging all the detritus left over form the previous version into a new build. Then, if and when problems arise, and they certainly will, you may NEVER be able to determine the cause! Now if this happens on your phone the worst thing is to do a factory reset - YUK - but it's not the end of the companies business, or your livelihood! Try to do this on a server that has already been deployed and I would rather get a root canal without Novocain while actively charged electrodes were anchored to my feet!
So then, NEVER allow Google to reinstall your apps from a backup. Start clean, learn what to turn off/adjust in settings, and load your apps one at a time. Give your battery a few days to settle in, that is to learn your habits of use and you should be OK. YMMV
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I've played with my 10+ extensively*.
My issues and solutions may not apply to you.
No free rides; you get what you put into it.
WYSIWYG.
Enabling power management of any kind isn't needed, will likely cause erratic behavior degrade the speed and stability in extreme cases even cause boot loops. On my device global power management uses more battery even after a week or more... it does not adapt. It ain't Borg.
Can you really expect a random collection of apks, services and versions to be compatible out of the box? Absolutely not. The shotgun approach will not work well here. Sweat is always the price of freedom...
Developer options>standby apps
All buckets should show as active and their status unchangable, otherwise power management is active.
*factory resets should be only after major firmware updates, malware you can't eliminate, system damage by a app and boot loops *giggle*.
Otherwise track down the root cause and correct otherwise it will likely reoccur... then you'll be right back were you started. The equivalent of rinsing with the wash water.
blackhawk said:
Each user and Android device is unique.
So is its optimization.
This is no plain Jane iPhone.
You get what you put into Android.
That's why kids do so well with them... they play with it.
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jeez...."plain Jane iPhone"...that's right, there's not a single setting you can change on the iPhone