So I am on the fence between which one to buy. Besides the price point and the mod for the Atrix lapdock, are there any differences between the two? Does the Atrix mod keep the photon securely in place when docked? Are there any hardware differences?
TIA
Julian
Atrix lapdock requires modification. According to someone who posted in another thread the Bionics doesn't, but the Photon doesn't sit on it perfect either. There is talk of the Photon getting it's own lapdock, maybe it will even be cheaper.
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Atrix lapdock requires modification. According to someone who posted in another thread the Bionics doesn't, but the Photon doesn't sit on it perfect either. There is talk of the Photon getting it's own lapdock, maybe it will even be cheaper.
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Thanks for your reply. Yea I was the one that confirmed that the Bionic lapdock works with the Photon and although I know it does not sit flush with the dock, the phone is secure.
I was wondering if there were really any differences regarding the keyboard or mouse pad for the two lapdocks. Anyone have any input?
I ended up getting the Bionic Lapdock. So far so good. I actually went through 4 Bionic lapdocks before finally getting one that did not have a defect with it. The first three had dead pixels. Luckily the Verizon stores were kind enough for me to try all their stock. I cleaned out two local Verizon Corp stores of the lapdock stock since all of them had dead pixels.
BUYER BEWARE: Please try using the actual lapdock you are going to buy before committing. you never know if there will be dead pixels!
Other than the occasional lag and the insane palm sensitivity of the track pad, i love this thing!
**Hint: When typing a long post such as this, you can temporarily disable the track pad by tapping on the white led twice. tapping twice again will activate the track pad.
Well I got my Atrix Lapdock in last night and swapped the ports around and have some initial impressions.
FIT:
Photon does fit snugly but you have to be careful because the ports do not line up exactly. If you notice the videos people have posted you notice that they have to wiggle the Photon to get it to fit. Well once I saw that I immediately took it apart and placed a very small piece of hard plastic under the USB port. To lift is to the proper angle. Once I did this now the Photon slides into the dock very smoothly it’s not perfect and hangs every now and then but it also does the same in the cardock.
PORTS:
I have seem numerous posts where people have asked about swapping the ports so the Photon would sit flush. Well sad to say it’s not possible. Two things make this not possible. One the ports on the Photon make the phone where with either method the phone will stick out. Second you would have to cut the hole larger on the Micro HDMI side to fit the USB which would cause the port to wobble and not sit properly.
SPEED:
As other users have posted it is not the fasted in the world. But this may be attributed to the fact that from what I have read one core is disabled on the Photon. Also I notice on the Phone Mirrored screen under notifications it shows. " This device is not optimized to work with the Lapdock model" now everything I have tried has worked and mind you has worked well. I would compare this to my old HP 1000nr netbook in terms of speed. I am running the latest update with Webtop version WT-1.2.0-160.
SOUND:
The speakers seem to work well. I would compare them to be as loud as say an Ipad or Touchpad. You also have the option under settings to use the phones speakphone if you prefer.
SCREEN:
Well the screen is very crisp and the videos I played seems to look very nice. When I blew up the phone screen I didn’t notice much pixilation and everything looked nice. But then again I am not very picky and as just as happy with a 720p TV as I am with a 1080P.
BATTERY:
Will have to update on this later since I’ve only had it for a day but it is very nice to know that you can use this and your phone will be charged when you pull it off.
CASES:
Photon will not work in the lapdock with any cases currently avaliable. I have a case that i cut to fit in the cardock which it works in the cardock but does not work in the lapdock.
If you want something small to throw in a bag and send a lot of texts or emails this is great. Will work for web browsing but it is about as slow as a netbook so at time you may be frustrated.
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So I am on the fence between which one to buy. Besides the price point and the mod for the Atrix lapdock, are there any differences between the two? Does the Atrix mod keep the photon securely in place when docked? Are there any hardware differences?
TIA
Julian
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I am going to wait the several weeks until the Motorola electrify lapdock should be out. The Electrify is a photon twin announced by U.S. Cellular, so there should be no worry of the photon falling out when you move the lapdock. As noted on another thread, the elctrify lapdock was confirmed by U.S. Cellular.
I ended up buying the bionic lapdock and I'm loving life.. yea I spent $300 on it, but it was worth it =)
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ShabbyPenguin posted this in the Photon general section because it gets more hits. I figured some people here would want this since it's the right price.
It should work with the Razr as it does the Photon via simple mod, Thanks to CDThomas9. Here's his mod. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223032
I just bought one.
Does anyone know if it'll work with the 4G on the Razr out of the box? On AT&T supposedly it only works on wifi unless you buy a tethering package.
damn.... cant get it in canada it seems....
bah!!! I want to pick up two, but alas us canucks are left out in the cold. Damn it. anyone know if this is available in store?
well i just reserved one from a store for tomorrow. Going to see if I can get it to work with the Razr
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I just bought one.
Does anyone know if it'll work with the 4G on the Razr out of the box? On AT&T supposedly it only works on wifi unless you buy a tethering package.
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u have to mod it. but its not a huge deal. takes 5 mins. it will sit like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm_m1ZpunOA
im in canada right now too. u get raped on everything up here. when i bought my phone, i had to pay 75 for customs on top of the 50 i already paid for shipping.
sorry to bring bad news but, it looks like that deal is over now. its been showing it for $99 for a few hours now.
That why I called earlier today and talked with the manager. they reserved it and post noted that it will still be $50
Just thought I'd share my thoughts on the Atrix Lapdock. First, with the removal of the four screws shown in the Photon thread over at XDA, the HDMI and USB wires become free. It plugs right in and fires right up! No webtop or other mods needed. Mobile data works fine as well, in the att description, it says you need tethering for it to work, but i just have a grandfathered unlimited plan, and it works fine. the phone sits on the back ok, but with nothing much more than the wires to hold it in place. Other than that I can only complain about how close the touchpad is to the spacebar, but it can be disabled by double-tapping the top left corner. I got mine in-store, they will price match the web site, just FYI.
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u have to mod it. but its not a huge deal
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I'm not talking about the ports (I can handle that).
I'm curious whether it will work on 4G or not. Supposedly, you couldn't use the full-featured browser on the Dock unless you paid AT&T extra, but I don't know if VZW has a similar restriction, or if it works on this particular peripheral.
ok so i bought one, i aos bought these so i dont have to convert anything
can't post links so look these up on ebay
Micro USB B Male Female M/F Extension Charging Cable
New Hdmi Female To Mini Hdmi Male Cable Adapter M/F M F F/M Converter Cables Pc
and
Micro HDMI socket Female to HDMI Male adapter convertor
looks like it should cover it for connections.
anyone find better please let me know.
4G works perfectly. The lapdock is a little sluggish but hell for $50 I'm not complaining. I actually flipped the contacts around. I had to dremel the holes a little but other than than, a perfect fit. The phone sits upside down in the dock.
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I'm not talking about the ports (I can handle that).
I'm curious whether it will work on 4G or not. Supposedly, you couldn't use the full-featured browser on the Dock unless you paid AT&T extra, but I don't know if VZW has a similar restriction, or if it works on this particular peripheral.
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4G works perfectly. The lapdock is a little sluggish but hell for $50 I'm not complaining. I actually flipped the contacts around. I had to dremel the holes a little but other than than, a perfect fit. The phone sits upside down in the dock.
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can we get pictures?
Looks like Motorola caught on. It's $100 and "Out of Stock."
Ill see if I can get some pics. Here are some pics. What I did was follow the above posted MOD. I dremeled down the back hoping that the phone would fit with the case on it. It didn't. It is held sturdy and works.
Looks pretty good. I'm like 2 sec from buying this, is there anyway possible that you could post a video of the software running? I know its short notice but pleeeease lol.
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Well I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it. But I'd still love an early video . Btw here's a link to purchase for 79.95 (it is a refurb though) You can get an extra 20% off by using code FACEBOOK20.
Total ends up being like $66 shipped.
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Ill see if I can get some pics. Here are some pics. What I did was follow the above posted MOD. I dremeled down the back hoping that the phone would fit with the case on it. It didn't. It is held sturdy and works.
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nice , but does netflix play upside down?
let me ask if i dont dremel it( i dont have one) will it fit ok?
Link??
No link visible for the refurb.
Here are the links for the refurb lapdock:
from ATT $75: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...0257&q_categoryid=cat1370029#fbid=GFrrJ2opWB3
from All4Cellular: $66 shipped after FACEBOOK 20 coupon.
http://www.all4cellular.com/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-refurbished.html
(11th post in 3+ years... I might quite possibly be the least exciting poster at XDA.)
is the atrix lapdock compatible with the razr?
Yes, but not without modification because the connectors are backwards. Search and you'll find threads on this.
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Go with the Lapdock 500, just got one from the Verizon store for $267.
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Just got my razor today. Love this phone already. Also i have the atrix dock and extended the cables to work with the photon that i had and now the razor. Defently get the a500 if you want a dock. I spent 40 for the cables needed
It depends on your budget and needs.
The Atrix Lapdock had been available for $50-$70. Now it is more like $130. You can modify it at no additional cost to work perfectly with the Razr. You have to reverse the connectors and shave off a bit of plastic. It takes about 10-20 minutes and requires no real technical skill.
That said, the 500 works right out of the box and has a better keyboards and bigger screen, a VGA out, webcam and Ethernet port. It weighs 3.4lbs.
The Atrix dock has a 11.5 inch screen, weighs 2.4 lbs and has some ergonomic issues (track-pad a bit sluggish and the screen does bend back as far as I'd like.
Hi, fellow MoPhoers!
I just wanted to share this deal with y'all. 1SaleADay has the Motorola Droid Bionic Lapdock on sale for $80 ($85 with shipping) for today only, and after researching it a bit I found out it's compatible with the Photon!
For proof, see this video:
Anyways. I'm pretty psyched to have a nice productivity tool to use with UbunTop on my MoPho, and thought I'd share the good tidings.
Have a good day, kids!
I went ahead and picked one up for this sale. It should be here today. I'll report on any issues I find.
EDIT: The lapdock just got here.
As advertised, this thing works perfectly well with the Photon. The Photon sits off to the side a bit on the dock in the back, but it's definitely stable, and doesn't look like it will fall out at all.
The Photon's screen in the "mobile view" shows a notification saying "Unsupported Device: This device is not optimized to work with this Lapdock model", but everything seems to be working fine.
The build of the lapdock seems pretty high quality, and the thing is light as hell. I'm pretty impressed, to tell you the truth. The trackpad doesn't seem to do a two-finger scroll or a right-hand-side scroll, so that's a little annoying, but I'll get over it.
The custom build of Linux in the default Webtop seems to be capable enough for what I'm looking for, although I may end up doing some tweaking anyway.
This is meant to be a replacement for my Cr-48 (which is running Ubuntu 12.04), so we'll see after some solid use how this thing performs.
I just ordered a mini HDMI cable from Amazon this morning. But I'm not entirely sure what I will be getting.
I'm using Paranoid Android (ICS, CM9) on my phone, but I don't think it touched the webtop partition. The official webtop coming in ICS from Motorola looks cool, but I'm sure I don't have that. So will I just have HDMI mirroring, or what? My wife's Electrify is pretty much stock, so anything I'm screwed out of for unlocking and using an ICS ROM won't apply to her phone.
(Electrify is Photon minus WiMax/4G, and US Cellular branded; otherwise, same phone.)
Even with the official ICS update all you will get is mirroring as WEBTOP3.0=TABLET MIRRORING. Except for Moto specific apps there is very little difference between the two.
photon needs micro hdmi not mini.
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photon needs micro hdmi not mini.
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Yep, I'm screwed. I ordered the wrong cable. Didn't know there were 3. Maybe Amazon will let me return it; if not, the mistake only set me back $5.47. That plus what a micro will cost will still be fair.
But I mean, I won't need a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse, or dock, just micro to HDMI and I can run Android apps on my TV?
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www.monoprice.com I love them for cables.
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www.monoprice.com I love them for cables.
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Everyone loves Monoprice, but their prices are 2-3 times or more what Amazon charges. Their prices are great compared with the store, but they're not the cheapest around by far. And my wife's not amused that I wasted five bucks on the wrong cable... Although I see now that my camera requires Mini HDMI, so maybe we'll hold onto the cable. We'd have to eat the shipping cost anyway, I'm sure. Not that I need an HDMI cable for my camera, since my TV doubles as my monitor, but at least the cable isn't useless.
Now I just need an HDMI hub/switch. Second-generation HDTV (if you consider the CRT ones to be first, mine is flat panel but also only 720p) only has one HDMI port. Oh man, Amazon slaughters Monoprice here! Monoprice's cheapest is $24.65 for a 3-in, 1-out switch, but Amazon has one for $9.04. Ouch!
with monoprice you get really solid cables, the cheaper ones are a gamble half the time.
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So it's the Monster argument but on a smaller scale? Pay more and the cable works better, or don't pay as much and risk getting a dud? I see a lot of reviews on Amazon saying the cables are fine.
If the HDMI cable on Amazon doesn't work, I'll buy one on Monoprice for 4 times as much, and I'll get it in green, and consider the $1.65 a lesson learned.
no, monster claims better performance, monoprice only makes solid cables that won't have a short in them. I wish you nothing but the best though.
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While it was a display port cable, Amazon allowed me to return it with free shipping... however I have Amazon Prime so I got free shipping to begin with as well. No money lost on my part.
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Even with the official ICS update all you will get is mirroring as WEBTOP3.0=TABLET MIRRORING. Except for Moto specific apps there is very little difference between the two.
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Photon got a ics update?
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with monoprice you get really solid cables, the cheaper ones are a gamble half the time.
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And, for me at least, the gamble has always been worth it to save 50% - 75%. I have no experience with monoprice, so entirely possible that I would find their prices quite acceptable.
In my experience, in the real world electrons really are very non-picky. Give them a path from A-B on a reasonable guage metallic conductor with reasonable quality connectors. It is that simple.
As I posted in another thread, someone did a double-blind test with a soldered string of dry cleaner hangers vs. Monster speaker cable. Nobody could tell the difference!
in the large quantity I've bought, I've had quite a bit of doa cables, just a hassle id rather avoid, but paying monster prices is just stupid.
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Well, I got the cables, and the mini HDMI is indeed the wrong one (not that I doubted you guys). And the HDMI cable works. No dud. $1.65 got me a cable that works. I'll take that luck.
Photon didn't get an official ICS release. We're talking about Moto's ICS that they've been advertising, and rolling out for other phones, like the Droid RAZR. You can find it on YouTube on Motorola's channel, and it's probably been posted around XDA as well.
Finally ordered a proper micro HDMI cable. The mini HDMI cable fit our camera. We never figured on using the feature, but now we have the cable and it didn't even cost that much. No real loss I guess.
Got the Micro for $2.58. Amazon again. Free shipping again.
Disappointing.
I'm running AOKP right now, and all I got was mirroring, i.e. whatever was on my screen showed up on the TV. However, rotating it rotated it on the TV, but it stayed within a portrait frame, making it sideways. There's apparently no way to fill your screen, at least not that I could tell.
I'll test my wife's phone later. Locked, not rooted, and even running the stock launcher. Complete vanilla Electrify running Gingerbread, 2.3.5. Should be the same as an off-the-shelf Photon.
Much cooler on my wife's phone. Seemed to look better on the TV, and rotation worked. Looked kinda crappy (stretched). Played Asphalt 6 -- much cooler than playing it just on the phone. Still a crappy racing game though.
I suspect it not working well with the JB ROM is due to lack of drivers. So if you updated your Photon to 2.3.5 and you're sad that you can't unlock, know that you at least have this advantage, such as it is, over those of us who did unlock. And take advantage of it, I got the cable for under $3.
perhaps i am being a little too demanding, but i wanna know what phone most closely resembles my "TrIXteR" as far as button/jacks go....the Atrix is my first smartphone and still works "perfectly"....but i do realize it won't last forever.....i also understand the quad-core device choices are limited, and more will come....i just want a phone has tactile features that are similar'...i am using go launcher & widget locker, so the screen layout means nothing to me, i was and will be rooted again but do not use any roms...point is any stock android will suffice as far as UI...i just know what is inevitable ...my phone will be replacedd, and wanna plan ahead...that said, screen/demention/hardware don't matter as muc as where the volume, charger, headphone, and power button are located.
Personally I'm really disliking this pattern of newer phones getting bigger & bigger.. The new GS4 has a 5" screen??!?!?!?!?!
I've grown accustomed to Atrix's 4" screen but am willing to go up to 4.5-4.7" for the replacement. Keeping other features in mind too, I'm kinda liking the HTC One X+ or the full blown HTC One. Smaller still is the slightly older HTC One V & it still has nice features
i agree...size does matter....especially when an otterbox defender is on it...
It's a tough call. I personally pay close attention to accessories, which the Atrix 4G has many.
Not having to fiddle with cords is why I liked the Atrix 4G standard dock. Wireless charging will likely be a favorite accessory as that's what most of us use the most.
In-car use is a winner also using the car dock. For new phones, having an easy to use dock will help, or perhaps a wireless charging surface, which will stop the phone from sliding around, therefore doubling as a suitable dock surface.
I would only buy a phone with a maximum screen size of 5" for one handed use. It's amazing that a human thumb can stretch that far as it is.
Outer casing is critical in my mind. This is where the Atrix 4G fell short with it smooth plastic sides. As soon as your hands are dry, holding a smooth plastic phone in your hands is the same as clutching a melting ice cube. Therfore a phone with some amount of texture wins in my mind. In addition, the material that the outer rim to the screen is made from will determine if a shock is transmitted directly to the point of impact or transmitted evenly to the device.
I'm --> <-- this close to choosing my next phone, but knowing that the Snapdragon 800 is coming to market makes it hard to settle on something today.
I replaced mine with a galaxy note i717. Big phone. I like it. I think the galaxy s2 is basically the same phone but smaller. I replaced my wife's matrix with a pantech burst. You can get one on eBay for less than $100 USA. It has official ICS and there is development going on for cm10. note is on cm10.1. Burst screen seams better than atrix to me. Burst battery not as good and charge port is oddly placed in middle of right side
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maybe u can try, nexus 4 or LG L7 that are good phones and have almost the same ergonmics