So i have tried pretty much all of the GB roms and they are either just not stable enough or they eat through battery like a fat kid on cake.
Is there anything I need to know before going back to Froyo?
Was just planning on ODIN to stock, then flashing a Froyo ROM. But I was unsure if there will be a bootloader issue (or will that be fixed with the ODIN flash)?
thanks
Wondering the same thing
ripsphone said:
So i have tried pretty much all of the GB roms and they are either just not stable enough or they eat through battery like a fat kid on cake.
Is there anything I need to know before going back to Froyo?
Was just planning on ODIN to stock, then flashing a Froyo ROM. But I was unsure if there will be a bootloader issue (or will that be fixed with the ODIN flash)?
thanks
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I'm searching for an answer to the same question. I hooked my friend's Vibrant up to Simply Honey but now i think she would be better off with MIUI. After plowing through thread after thread, you flashing to stock Froyo would not restore your Froyo Bootloader. You have to flash that separately.
You may want to consider giving this a shot though -- a custom gingerbread bootloader that is compatible with Froyo ROMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990
Otherwise:
1. Flash to JFD ODIN (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475)
2. Flash Froyo Bootloaders
3. Root (if necessary)
4. Install Clockwork / Rom Manager (if applicable)
5. Flash ROM of your choice.
You can skip steps 1-4, above. The ginger bootloader is backward compatible. Just did this to my phone and my wife's, Asgard -> zen Droid
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adamcooks said:
You can skip steps 1-4, above. The ginger bootloader is backward compatible. Just did this to my phone and my wife's, Asgard -> zen Droid
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Unless you're going to CM7/MIUI/other AOSP rom, in which case I believe the bootloader will prevent you from getting into your sd card. I'd go in this order:
1.) ODIN Froyo Bootloaders.
2.) ODIN JFD w/ 512 pit and repatition checked.
3.) Root
4.) Install CWM
5.) Go flash happy on AOSP or 2.2 roms.
Just my personal preference. I like the updated bootloader for all my roms. I find it much easier to key press into recovery and download mode. No more three button hope you get the timing correct. Simply either up or down and power, bam your doing what you want.
I think that cm/mini has been updated to work with the gingy loaders (but I am not 100%on that)
As far as going to stock, while I find merit in it, I don't think it's necessary in between all ROM flashing. If you have some issues it can be a needed step.
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Oxirane said:
Unless you're going to CM7/MIUI/other AOSP rom, in which case I believe the bootloader will prevent you from getting into your sd card.
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According to the custom GB BL thread starter, his custom bootloaders are compatible with CM7/MIUI. He says it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16691801&postcount=357
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Can anyone loan me a hand? I just got my new Samsung Fascinate today and I really like it. Can anyone here help me root it? It's on
version 2.2.1.
Build Number: SCH-I500.ED04
Kernel V: 22.6.32.9
Model: SCH-I500
Hardware V:I500.04
If you can, please help me out. I'm familiar with jailbreaking iPhones and iPods but have never dealed with an Android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046855&highlight=root+ed01
What he said... But if you want other roms, don't bother with unrooting.
Just update your recovery to the latest CWM and flash a new rom using CWM.
But I would make sure to read up before taking any steps further to make sure you know what steps to take.
Sorry, but I don't even know what a rom is. I'm familair with iPhone Jaibteaking and thats it. This is my first Android phone. All I Wanna do is be able to install the themes and tweaks and get free tethering. I'm sorry i don't know much.
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I had root on my Fascinate and then I updated OTA to Froyo 2.2.1 and lost root.
How do I root my Fascinate now?
FW=2.2.1
Kernel=2.6.32.9
Build=SCH-I500.ED04
Baseband=S:i500.04V.ED04
Thanks to you and all the help on XDA.
Same that was already posted above.... READ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046855&highlight=root+ed01
When I tried to download the "update.zip" file I get a 404 error.
Thanks
RacerXFD said:
What he said... But if you want other roms, don't bother with unrooting.
Just update your recovery to the latest CWM and flash a new rom using CWM.
But I would make sure to read up before taking any steps further to make sure you know what steps to take.
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I would go this route, load up ComRom 2.1 and get rid of the ED04 radio it has some issues. It's not as hard as it sounds to do this. Just read up and enjoy a better running phone.
nunyazz said:
Same that was already posted above.... READ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046855&highlight=root+ed01
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I went to the page you suggested and when I tried to download the "update.zip" I get a 404 error.
What is next?
Thanks
sfobrien said:
I would go this route, load up ComRom 2.1 and get rid of the ED04 radio it has some issues. It's not as hard as it sounds to do this. Just read up and enjoy a better running phone.
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If this is the route you want to take (I highly recommend it as well), I would check out this thread or even this thread (although it is on Android Central, so you will need to make an account to see all the links if you don't already have one). They are pretty similar (the latter is a bit overboard on detail, but that can be a good thing if you are new to the process) and should at least get you started on learning what it is you need to learn to ultimately wind up at ComRom 2.1. I hope this helps!
Hello. I finally found out what a ROM was and how to use ODIN. I had my Uncle to ROOT my Fascinate when he was down this weekend. Last night, my phone got bricked or stuck in blue recovery and I had to flash it. Or restore it using ODIN. Anyhow, can you tell me the steps to get it rooted again with Odin & Evil Fascination? ClackWorkRecovery caused thus because I couldn't get it to work to install Com rom.
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For a better understanding, I want to do the following:
Steps to Rooting my SCH-I500 with Evil Fascinate
Getting clockworkmod working correctly
& Installing Com rom.
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GagesiPad said:
For a better understanding, I want to do the following:
Steps to Rooting my SCH-I500 with Evil Fascinate
Getting clockworkmod working correctly
& Installing Com rom.
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Evil Fascination and Community Rom are two different roms and both will root your phone when flashed... this is how mine's set up for ComRom and it works flawlessly:
1) download odin, samsung mobile phone drivers, debloated/debinged/deodexed EB01 all in one package, CWR3-Voodoo, and ComRom 2.0 package of your choice and the 2.1 patch... place ComRom and its patch onto your sd card
2) use odin to install EB01
3) boot up phone once to let it format itself
4) power off phone and use odin to then install CWR3-Voodoo
5) boot straight into CWR, wipe data/cache/dalvik 3 times each and assuming you don't want to backup/restore data (I usually just use Titanium Backup app from the market) proceed to install .zip of ComRom 2.0
6) select reboot phone and let it boot up, it may take a while the first time
7) congrats, you're rooted and running ComRom 2.0
8) to install the patch simply hold the power button down until the menu pops up, select recovery
9) this will boot you into CWR again, no data/cache wipe necessary simply install .zip ComRom 2.1 patch then reboot phone again
10) congrats now you're rooted, voodoo'd, and running the latest ComRom
hope this helps, that's about as simple and short as I can make it
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Ok. Thanks for letting me know that. I had no idea there was a difference. I'm new to this stuff so. Yah. Anyways, I used that guys post to root my phone (the first reply with the link) and it worked for me. Can you give the the download links to all of the stuff up there that you mentioned? Or is there another thread that you go that from with a better understanding? With the links and all? I'm not sure what Voodoo is. I just want the Com Ron up and going. ;-) thanks =D
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GagesiPad said:
Ok. Thanks for letting me know that. I had no idea there was a difference. I'm new to this stuff so. Yah. Anyways, I used that guys post to root my phone (the first reply with the link) and it worked for me. Can you give the the download links to all of the stuff up there that you mentioned? Or is there another thread that you go that from with a better understanding? With the links and all? I'm not sure what Voodoo is. I just want the Com Ron up and going. ;-) thanks =D
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this should give you a current recovery (CWM), I use the first one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
most everything else can be found in landsharks thread here: odin, the samsung drivers, debloated/deodexed EB01 and ED01, and how to install all of that (props to landshark68 for putting it all together)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
ComRom can be found here along with instructions on how to flash, changelogs to see whats been updated, known bugs... I would suggest reading the first few posts by nitsuj17 just to get familiar with it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108991
superchunkwii put up a pretty nice detailed thread on how to get to ComRom if you're at stock (or need to go to stock, then go to ComRom):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053567
last but not least voodoo, these are the closest threads I could find that describe it (second one is a little better):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043673&highlight=voodoo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039897&highlight=voodoo
i know it might seem like information overload and a lot of reading, thats why i tried to simplify it in my instructions in my previous posts... if you download what you need from those threads then follow the steps I listed you shouldn't have any problems. If you do, don't worry we're here to help
Ok. From my understanding, CWR3-Voodoo is like the one click lag fix right? I'm actually using that on my phone now. When I'm on my computer later, ill go through all that and learn more about it and download everything and try it. =]
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GagesiPad said:
Ok. From my understanding, CWR3-Voodoo is like the one click lag fix right? I'm actually using that on my phone now. When I'm on my computer later, ill go through all that and learn more about it and download everything and try it. =]
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yes it has an option for enabling/disabling lagfix but its optional.. even if you decide to flash a rom with no voodoo kernel you can still use that CWM with no worries
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Thanks. Since I'm allready rooted, can I skip to steps 20-24 and do that?
GagesiPad said:
Thanks. Since I'm allready rooted, can I skip to steps 20-24 and do that?
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yeah if you're rooted and running the baseband you want (ED01 or whatever) the boot into CWR and flash the rom you want... you're going to need to do a data/cache/dalvik wipe before flashing the initial ComRom 2.0 package so make any backups you want.. once its done installing reboot phone to make sure everything works right, then boot back into recovery and flash the patch (no wiping or anything needed) any questions or problems be sure to post them
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Thanks! I back up my stuff though Titanium back up. One thing though, how do I tell if I have CWR installed? Thanks for your help!
Hi, I'm currently on simply honey3.91 gingerbread...I flashed this rom specifically just to be able to use netflix but now it appears that the newest version works on froyo now.. how do I downgrade back to froyo? Froyo had working gps for me which I could never get to work consistently on gb...to have GPS and netflix working on my phone would be great!
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Odin back to eclair, root, install rom manager, format sd-card (remove the external sd-card to avoid loosing important data) and flash froyo.
naars90 said:
Hi, I'm currently on simply honey3.91 gingerbread...I flashed this rom specifically just to be able to use netflix but now it appears that the newest version works on froyo now.. how do I downgrade back to froyo? Froyo had working gps for me which I could never get to work consistently on gb...to have GPS and netflix working on my phone would be great!
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No need to format SD card
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I have gingerbread bootloaders...would that be a problem?
It's not going to be a problem. You may only be annoying by the I1900 when you boot your phone. Regarding formatting your sd-card, to cleanup the left over software components like voodoo folder and data. Re-installing the os on your phone is juts like re-installing os on your pc. Cleanup the left over junk may help saving space and other unforeseen complicated issues.
naars90 said:
I have gingerbread bootloaders...would that be a problem?
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VibrantThemer said:
It's not going to be a problem. You may only be annoying by the I1900 when you boot your phone. Regarding formatting your sd-card, to cleanup the left over software components like voodoo folder and data. Re-installing the os on your phone is juts like re-installing os on your pc. Cleanup the left over junk may help saving space and other unforeseen complicated issues.
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on the flipside if you want to be extra careful just flash froyo bootloaders of course dont be sacred if at reboot you get rainbows thats normal after that reboot phone into download mode then odin back to stock reroot flash clockwork and flash a froyo rom
godsfirsthomie said:
on the flipside if you want to be extra careful just flash froyo bootloaders of course dont be sacred if at reboot you get rainbows thats normal after that reboot phone into download mode then odin back to stock reroot flash clockwork and flash a froyo rom
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Have you tried that? Don't want to take a chance and I hate the rainbow lolz.
Thanks anyway
VibrantThemer said:
Have you tried that? Don't want to take a chance and I hate the rainbow lolz.
Thanks anyway
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the rainbows are there only while your still on simply honey as soon as you odin back to stock they will be gone and you have your normal galaxy s start up logos
VibrantThemer said:
Have you tried that? Don't want to take a chance and I hate the rainbow lolz.
Thanks anyway
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I have flashed bootloaders both ways. Nothing to worry about as long as you follow the steps. Works like a charm.
offdutyninja808 said:
I have flashed bootloaders both ways. Nothing to worry about as long as you follow the steps. Works like a charm.
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I'm thinking of doing this as I cannot seem to get a full workday with relatively light use out of GB right now.
Anyway... where can I find the bootloaders for Froyo and is there a guide to make sure I do this in the right order. I haven't had any issues with all the various flashes and odins that I have done so far, but with CM7 on board I know that it's quite a bit different now.
I tried using the XDA search for bootloaders and basically got this an other similar threads.
I read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990 which looks like I already had stock bootloader, but I wasn't sure if that is correct.
Yeah, that's the right place. Just click on the "Froyo Bootloader Revert to Vibrant" link to download the original bootloaders. It should be a .tar file. Flash through Odin with the same steps, but just use the Froyo BL .tar instead of the GB one and BOOM!
In like tube socks!
Oh yeah... don't forget that the button combo for the GB bootloaders is different. It's just volume up + power.
hi,
can i flash CM7 on GB bootloader ?
I'm just having a hard time rooting my phone(usb problem, but i can get to download mode) after going back to stock.
I'm right now on 2.3.4 ROM(non CM7).
You can flash it, but you wont have access to your external sdcard.
And before you go to CM7, Odin the froyo bootloaders, then Odin back to jfd, then flash CM7.
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doesnt taking the external out and putting it into 1 of them usb stick things to plug in by itself work or it just doesnt work plugging the phone into usb ??
im not on CM7, just wondering
geoffcorey said:
You can flash it, but you wont have access to your external sdcard.
And before you go to CM7, Odin the froyo bootloaders, then Odin back to jfd, then flash CM7.
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2 questions
1. doesn't JFD tar has boot loaders in it that will be flashed during odin ?
2. if i do need froyo boot loaders, where can i take them from ?
thanks.
xxprowler said:
2 questions
1. doesn't JFD tar has boot loaders in it that will be flashed during odin ?
2. if i do need froyo boot loaders, where can i take them from ?
thanks.
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same place you got the GB 1s from
^that about the ffroyo bootloaders... you wont have aaccess to external sd on your phone if you have cm7 and gb bootloaders. I suggest you odin froyo bootloaders, thrn jfd and the flash cm7 as mentiones above.. idk if odin jfd will do bootloaders as wwell, just do it the long way.
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xxprowler said:
2 questions
1. doesn't JFD tar has boot loaders in it that will be flashed during odin ?
2. if i do need froyo boot loaders, where can i take them from ?
thanks.
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1: nope, it does not contain any bootloaders.
2: the same.place you get the gb bootloaders. Go look in the dev section within the 1st 3 pages. It's in there.
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Nighty #73 changelog said:
kernel: support for emmc on gingerbread bootloaders (android_device_samsung_vibrantmtd)
So... im going to install #73 right now, and let you guys know how its works.
Update: Nightly 73# and up Will work with GB Bootloaders, External SD card works. Now you can bounce around between 2.2/2.2.1, JVR, CM-7 and Maybe Miui, without having to Odin. WOOT!
Just wondering what else they do besides fix rainbow effect.
I've had a bad past with bootloaders... SoftBricked a few times, hard bricked twice.
So what are the benefits?
And if I do flash bootloaders, when I odin to eclair does it auto flash the default bootloaders?
xriderx66 said:
Just wondering what else they do besides fix rainbow effect.
I've had a bad past with bootloaders... SoftBricked a few times, hard bricked twice.
So what are the benefits?
And if I do flash bootloaders, when I odin to eclair does it auto flash the default bootloaders?
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They give a more convenient key mapping to enter the download mode and recovery.other than that no I guess.flashing to eclare does not restore original bootloaders.you have to flash it separately if you want it.but bootloadres are backward compatible.so no need to so.But if you are flashing a CM based rom you need to be on froyo bootloaders even its a GB rom.
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nuwanmw1988 said:
They give a more convenient key mapping to enter the download mode and recovery.other than that no I guess.flashing to eclare does not restore original bootloaders.you have to flash it separately if you want it.but bootloadres are backward compatible.so no need to so.But if you are flashing a CM based rom you need to be on froyo bootloaders even its a GB rom.
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+1 and it provides less conflicts with all the newer software we are now using.
I think some of the other custom bootloaders were snappier but that's the trade off less speed but less conflicts
ok thats all i needed, thanks guys
Some Odin packages do contain bootloaders. I haven't flashed actual jfd in a long time, so I don't remember if it does, I do know the jk2 odin package eugene373 put together does flash bootloaders.
You can view the tar archive with 7zip or wnrar, if it contains the boot.bin and sbl.bin, then it will flash bootloaders along with everything else.
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Do I still just ODIN the stock PDA file? Or is there any other precaution I should take?
freshjr said:
Do I still just ODIN the stock PDA file? Or is there any other precaution I should take?
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Please read the guides.
You were just sliced bread before you were burnt by the toaster.
★★★ NOOB GUIDE :: Root :: Odin :: Files :: Guides ★★★
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
tc
Toast6977 said:
Please read the guides.
You were just sliced bread before you were burnt by the toaster.
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haarsh said:
★★★ NOOB GUIDE :: Root :: Odin :: Files :: Guides ★★★
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
tc
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I have read and understood the guides, but from experience, you can't always just ODIN back to stock and have it work.
I found that ODIN'ing back to stock, from a rom that had voodoo lagfix enabled, seems to somewhat brick the phone. Where the after the successful ODIN flash, the install script doesn't run properly, and the phone gets stuck at a black screen.
To fix, you have to hunt down EUGENE's unbrickable rom, because for some reason, his ODIN package works and gets your phone working. Then you have flash back to stock. But EUGENE's rom is hard to find, because it is not hosted anywhere anymore.
Is there anything like this I have to watch out for when downgrading from jellybean and ICS? I haven't been around for this transition.
As long as you have the Odin files and know what your doing, go ahead and flash.
Then if something goes wrong, we can look at the symptoms and treat it accordingly.
It should go well, if it doesn't give us a shout.
You were just sliced bread before you were burnt by the toaster.
freshjr said:
I have read and understood the guides, but from experience, you can't always just ODIN back to stock and have it work.
I found that ODIN'ing back to stock, from a rom that had voodoo lagfix enabled, seems to somewhat brick the phone. Where the after the successful ODIN flash, the install script doesn't run properly, and the phone gets stuck at a black screen.
To fix, you have to hunt down EUGENE's unbrickable rom, because for some reason, his ODIN package works and gets your phone working. Then you have flash back to stock. But EUGENE's rom is hard to find, because it is not hosted anywhere anymore.
Is there anything like this I have to watch out for when downgrading from jellybean and ICS? I haven't been around for this transition.
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I think you have read the misfortunes of others that probably didn't read before they flashed etc. I'm not real familiar with voodoo lagfix but I haven't heard of it causing Odin problems. And none of the ICS or JB ROMs have it. Another thing, if you are using Odin, coming back to stock from ICS or JB, you need to check the repartition box.
I will try to find Eugene's for you.
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It's fairly straight forward. First flash it to stock Eclair 2.1 or Froyo 2.2
Put this temporary CWM "update.zip" into the internal storage of the phone. Also put in the rom you want to flash. (If on Froyo you might need to run the 3e_recovery_installer first.)
Boot into recovery. Depend on the bootloader its either both Volumes + Power button, or Volume Down and Power.
Flash the update.zip twice, the green CWM screen will appear.
Wipe data and cache.
Flash your the rom. You might get an error, flash it again, the general behavior is it will permanently install a new version CWM and reboot, then stuck at the logo. Remove insert the battery, boot into recovery again and you will see the new version of CWM. Flash the rom again for the third time and it will work.
*If flashing the rom don't work and it doesn't install CWM, then do incremental upgrade. First by flashing CM7, then flash CM10.
Hey eksasol, I like the easy breakdown but he is going from JB using Odin to stock......
I know.
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Its as simple as WIPING DATA CACHE AND D CACHE THEN FLASH. YOU HAD ONE JOB. WHY DO YOU NEED TO ASK?
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