I Just got my thunderbolt and I wanna root it but am having trouble finding confirmation on a safe method to use for after the 2.2.1 OTA. Please help!?
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openfac3 said:
I Just got my thunderbolt and I wanna root it but am having trouble finding confirmation on a safe method to use for after the 2.2.1 OTA. Please help!?
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No offense, but you haven't looked hard at all. Everything you need to know is stickied at the top of the Q&A thread. There's also a link the my sig.
OK well let me ask this then. . . What is the best way for me to do it. Is there any "oneclick"methods that would be really good for me to use?
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openfac3 said:
OK well let me ask this then. . . What is the best way for me to do it. Is there any "oneclick"methods that would be really good for me to use?
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The only method I'd ever recommend that is like a one click method is the Revolution method, but the drawback to that is undoing the S-Off is harder than the old jcase method. I can't recommend any "one click" based of the jcase method because there's too many floating around out there and unless you know the exploits being used, they're unreliable. The Revolution method is the current preferred method, and can be undone. It's preferred because it wipes not data and all you need to do after using it is to flash SuperUser and a recovery of your choice. I believe those can be found in the wiki unrEVOked maintains, as well as other places.
With the revolution method is it easy to boot in recovery and flash different roms or do you have to go through the whole rooting method everything? Thanks for your help by the way.
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With the revolution method is it easy to boot in recovery and flash different roms or do you have to go through the whole rooting method everything? Thanks for your help by the way.
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It's just as easy as anything else once you have clockworkmod flashed. Replacing the ROM doesn't remove S-Off or erase your recovery. I also like to point out that Revolution doesn't really root a device, it merely turns S-off so that you can root and flash a custom recovery. But once S-Off is done, the rest is as easy as flashing a couple files. Once you're to that point, you can wipe and flash ROMs all day. If you need some help or a walk through on some of this, PM me.
Just rooted my Thunderbolt after the Gingerbread update using Revolution method. Happy to say I am rooted with S-off. Have the latest recovery downloaded with my current Rom backed up. Next move is to download a custom Rom. I waited for this update for what reason I don't know to root my Thunderbolt.
What Rom to choose? There are so many. This is the fun part.
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Has anyone found a way to root a thunderbolt with version 1.70.605.0?
I believe the manual method still works on that. Haven't seen anything different.
Yes it does. I waited on it hen rooted.
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I'm in the middle of rooting mine after just now taking the OTA. If the downgrade flash takes, I'm all good.
*EDIT* Downgrade took, next is copying the eng bootloader
works like a charm
Lol what's the manual method? I'm new to all this stuff.
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Lol what's the manual method? I'm new to all this stuff.
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It's the JCase's tutorial - the first stickie in the development section of the xda forums.
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cool but that tutorial unlock bootloader and all i just want to root latest stock firmware so i can run wifi tether...
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cool but that tutorial unlock bootloader and all i just want to root latest stock firmware so i can run wifi tether...
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Without the unlocked bootloader all you get it temp root. So, unless you want to do an ADB temp root on your device while running pre-release firmware, you're kinda outta luck on that front. Do you have an issue with unlocking the bootloader we should be aware of?
Hey guys I'm new to posting on here so forgive me if this is in the wrong area. I have rooted using HTCs method due to 1.5 hboot. From what I've gathered I cannot flash a kernel through recovery but when I do attempt to flash a kernel it says completed. For example if I flash a new ROM and I get the WiFi error message I flash another kernel then my WiFi works. My main question is am i really successfully flashing a kernel or does it just say it did. I would think if it wasn't working then my WiFi error would continue.
Thanks
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I'm not sure which method you are using to flash roms.
But using this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
second post in the thread.
I've flashed many roms and kernels that way, after doing the htc unlock, and I've had no problems.
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Hey guys I'm new to posting on here so forgive me if this is in the wrong area. I have rooted using HTCs method due to 1.5 hboot. From what I've gathered I cannot flash a kernel through recovery but when I do attempt to flash a kernel it says completed. For example if I flash a new ROM and I get the WiFi error message I flash another kernel then my WiFi works. My main question is am i really successfully flashing a kernel or does it just say it did. I would think if it wasn't working then my WiFi error would continue.
Thanks
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You got an accidental "thanks", congrats on your first lol.
If you go into menu>settings>about phone, your kernel is listed there. Good luck!
Thanks! I flash roms through TWRP recovery. When I attempt to flash a kernel I do it through TWRP as well. Is there a chance that I can successfully flash kernels through recovery even though I rooted htcs way? What I'm getting at is everyone seems to not like to root with htcs way but I'm not really seeing the drawback to it.
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Thanks! I flash roms through TWRP recovery. When I attempt to flash a kernel I do it through TWRP as well. Is there a chance that I can successfully flash kernels through recovery even though I rooted htcs way? What I'm getting at is everyone seems to not like to root with htcs way but I'm not really seeing the drawback to it.
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Each phone is quirky, so it's possible you got lucky, a S-off dev phone, or "like new" previously rooted phone. If it works, I wouldn't question it
LOL I have s-on that's what is so puzzling oh well LOL
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I just came from a g2 and must say I'm glad I did. Now time to start flashing roms. I was able to get phone unlocked and I got a custom recovery. No s_off.
I know s_off was needed for custom roms and to flash recoveryfor the g2.
Am I correct to think I need s_off to flash roms/kernels/mods?
Thanks in advance
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Spastic909 said:
I just came from a g2 and must say I'm glad I did. Now time to start flashing roms. I was able to get phone unlocked and I got a custom recovery. No s_off.
I know s_off was needed for custom roms and to flash recoveryfor the g2.
Am I correct to think I need s_off to flash roms/kernels/mods?
Thanks in advance
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S-off is not needed for anything really, other than flashing custom splash screens.
Install 4Ext recovery and it will flash kernels for you in recovery just as a recovery on a device with s-off would. IF you are unlocked and have a custom recovery you should be good to go, if the recovery is CWM I and nearly everyone here would advice you to switch to 4Ext just to make your life easier with wifi problems.
You can flash roms how your phone is right now through recovery with no problem though.
Sweet. Was used to needing soff for the g2. And I agree 4ext is awesome.
Just to make sure flashing is done the same as on my g2 through recovery right?
Thanks
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Oh wait....the bootloader is unlocked....is that the same as root? I wouldn't think so but phones are different.
Cheers
Yea no root access. Can you point me too an easy link or tutorial please?
Sorry
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Spastic909 said:
Oh wait....the bootloader is unlocked....is that the same as root? I wouldn't think so but phones are different.
Cheers
Yea no root access. Can you point me too an easy link or tutorial please?
Sorry
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Not the same. After you unlock the bootloader, you can root the phone (SuperUser App).
Follow these instructions starting from post 3 to get a custom recovery and root access.
That was so much easier than I expected. It was a lot harder with the G2. Thanks again
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My friend told me that if you 'S-OFF' your phone, don't think he said only on the HTC Amaze, but it will remove the 4G and will only give Edge connection. Is that true? And what are the Pros and Cons for having your phone S-OFF'd?
Your friend is misinformed. If someone was to S-Off Your phone without your knowledge you'd never know.
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Your friend is misinformed. If someone was to S-Off Your phone without your knowledge you'd never know.
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can you please provide me a link on as how to turn s off? and also do you lose the screen ring unlock feature when you do s-off?
Under development there's a sticky. And s=off has no visible effect. It is just for development purpose it alone won't cause anything to be different visually
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Here is a question. I bought a tmobile branded amaze. The guy who sold it me said it's unlocked and I am using it on other networks. Does this also mean its s-off? And has unlocked bootloader? How do I check? I just want to remove tmobile bloatware so need to root can anyone help me out here?
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danyal241 said:
Here is a question. I bought a tmobile branded amaze. The guy who sold it me said it's unlocked and I am using it on other networks. Does this also mean its s-off? And has unlocked bootloader? How do I check? I just want to remove tmobile bloatware so need to root can anyone help me out here?
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Take out your battery and then turn your phone back on holding down the power and volunme down buttons. This will load up the bootloader screen where it will either say "s-on or s-off" and will say "locked or unlocked". The locked/unlocked refers to the bootloader
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to s-off the phone just means to make "ALL" files on the phone rewritable so the phone can n be fully modified in any way shape or form.. and if you supercid your phone you will be able to flash stock roms from any carrier, as for how to s-off your phone i suggest using the toolkit by hasoon found here
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to s-off the phone just means to make "ALL" files on the phone rewritable so the phone can n be fully modified in any way shape or form.. and if you supercid your phone you will be able to flash stock roms from any carrier, as for how to s-off your phone i suggest using the toolkit by hasoon found here
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Thanks. For explaining but I googled it. Can you tell me of a htc stock rom for amaze. The one I have is tmobile and am looking for carriers free rom without bloatware as I dont want custom rom?
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danyal241 said:
Thanks. For explaining but I googled it. Can you tell me of a htc stock rom for amaze. The one I have is tmobile and am looking for carriers free rom without bloatware as I dont want custom rom?
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see if you can find yourself a detoxed RUU, either that or you can root your phone and use titanium backup to uninstall the bloatware you don't want
I did as you said. Now I have unlocked bootloader with twrp and rooted. I made a full backup through recovery. I have s-on. If I do messup can I simply use twrp to restore? Secondly if I want custom roms installed I need to s-off the phone or also supercid?
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danyal241 said:
I did as you said. Now I have unlocked bootloader with twrp and rooted. I made a full backup through recovery. I have s-on. If I do messup can I simply use twrp to restore? Secondly if I want custom roms installed I need to s-off the phone or also supercid?
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You don't need to be s-offed to flash a custom rom.But it is better if you can s-off.
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You don't need to be s-offed to flash a custom rom.But it is better if you can s-off.
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Why is it better? And do I need to be supercid?
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first off stop everything your doing, you NEED 4EXT recovery for all HTC phones, it was specially built for HTC phones since they only work on HTC phones.. and it has a Smart Flash feature that allows you to successfully flash rom's while S-ON, S-OFF lets you re-write system files with full access.. before htc released the Unlock Bootloader codes it was the only way to flash a rom properly.. and SuperCID lets you change the Carrier ID to Blank so this way you'll be able to restore any RUU from any carrier if your trying to flash back to stock... but it seems like you want to flash a rom so just Flash 4EXT and make sure smart flash is enabled and find a guide or watch a youtube video on how to do a full wipe and flash your ROM... or if you dont want to do a full wipe look for android revolution HD and download the superwipe script and flash that before you flash your ROM
Pros:
1. Able to flash kernels (aka boot.IMG) without using 4EXT Recovery ..but I use 4EXT because madmaxx is an evil genius!!
2. Able to supercid. That means you can change your Carrier Identification and will be able to flash different carriers RUU.
3. Able to SIM Unlock without the need to ask your carrier for the unlock code.
4. Change your Splash Screen. That is the first screen that pops up when you reboot. Then its the bootanimation that comes after.
Cons:
1. Just the attempt to S-Off is stressfull. If you're not patient or not confident or can't comprehend what it is you're reading or watching then do not attempt it. You can end up with an expensive paperweight if you don't know how to recover from something so basic.
2. Another Con. If you do something so stupid and mess with the system partitions then chances are it can end up as a brick also. Only heard of one instance that happened. And it was about a year ago.
Can't think of anything else. But I too would change the recovery. You might not be able to charge your phone if it goes dead because I'm not sure if TWRP supports charging while off. Good luck.
Can I just use hansoon tool yo change recovery? Or is there a speical way as I have twrp?
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I use the paid app. But you can use the Hasoons Tool. Mind you that its not the most up to date recovery and 4EXT has been updated atleast a dozen times since then.
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I use the paid app. But you can use the Hasoons Tool. Mind you that its not the most up to date recovery and 4EXT has been updated atleast a dozen times since then.
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So I just go and buy the paid app from play store and It will install the updates for me?
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Yes. It was worth it a few months back but. You might be better off going to his website and downloading the newest recovery. Up to you.
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t. Then its the bootanimation that comes after.
Cons:
1. Just the attempt to S-Off is stressfull. If you're not patient or not confident or can't comprehend what it is you're reading or watching then do not attempt it. You can end up with an expensive paperweight if you don't know how to recover from something so basic.
2. Another Con. If you do something so stupid and mess with the system partitions then chances are it can end up as a brick also. Only heard of one instance that happened. And it was about a year ago.
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yeah i remember i wanted to throw my phone at a wall because i was pissed the wire trick wasnt working lol
Does flashing cwm need root privileges? And is flashing rom's safe too without root access?
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RazaVakil7995 said:
Does flashing cwm need root privileges? And is flashing rom's safe too without root access?
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If you flash CWM through fastboot or Odin or similar method then no you don't need root access. In regards to flashing ROMs without having root access from CWM it's not a good idea the as the installation will likely fail because without root the system partition can't be modified which is necessary when installing a new ROM.
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If you flash CWM through fastboot or Odin or similar method then no you don't need root access. In regards to flashing ROMs without having root access from CWM it's not a good idea the as the installation will likely fail because without root the system partition can't be modified which is necessary when installing a new ROM.
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Well what if I take a nandroid backup and then try so incase anything goes wrong I can recover the backup??
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shimp208 said:
In regards to flashing ROMs without having root access from CWM it's not a good idea the as the installation will likely fail because without root the system partition can't be modified which is necessary when installing a new ROM.
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Actually there is nothing wrong with that. Its perfectly safe to flash a ROM in the situation of having a custom recovery without root access.
RazaVakil7995 said:
Well what if I take a nandroid backup and then try so incase anything goes wrong I can recover the backup??
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Yes, you could recover the backup (as long as you can get into recovery mode).
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Actually there is nothing wrong with that. Its perfectly safe to flash a ROM in the situation of having a custom recovery without root access.
Yes, you could recover the backup (as long as you can get into recovery mode).
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If I 'can'? Does this mean there is a chance that I can hard brick my phone incase I don't have root access??
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RazaVakil7995 said:
If I 'can'? Does this mean there is a chance that I can hard brick my phone incase I don't have root access??
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You will not hardbrick your device doing this without root access in the unlikely event something does go wrong you will end up with a soft brick that can either be recovered through a NANDROID backup or if needed using the Micromax flash tool. I should also clear up any confusion I may have caused earlier as I misunderstood your question, the vast majority of custom ROMs will include root access but if they don't or you don't currently have root access you can still flash ROMs in CWM successfully.
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You will not hardbrick your device doing this without root access in the unlikely event something does go wrong you will end up with a soft brick that can either be recovered through a NANDROID backup or if needed using the Micromax flash tool. I should also clear up any confusion I may have caused earlier as I misunderstood your question, the vast majority of custom ROMs will include root access but if they don't or you don't currently have root access you can still flash ROMs in CWM successfully.
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There's my answer!! Thumbs up...
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Actually there is nothing wrong with that. Its perfectly safe to flash a ROM in the situation of having a custom recovery without root access.
Yes, you could recover the backup (as long as you can get into recovery mode).
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sorry for using this thread. but.. why would you then need root if flashing without root is possible(and safe) ?
orimai said:
sorry for using this thread. but.. why would you then need root if flashing without root is possible(and safe) ?
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Root would be needed in the first place to allow you to install a custom recovery such as CWMR or TWRP that you can then use to flash ROM's and other modifications. Some devices such as Samsung devices that have Odin allow you to flash ROM's through Odin without having root provided the bootloader is unlocked. Let me know if you still have questions.
Would I be able to use odin(or a similar program) to flash cwm on a wolfgang at - as45ips (rebranded amoi n821)?
Since normal root methods don't work for me..
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orimai said:
Would I be able to use odin(or a similar program) to flash cwm on a wolfgang at - as45ips (rebranded amoi n821)?
Since normal root methods don't work for me..
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Odin is only compatible with Samsung devices. What version of Android is your device running I may be able to suggest a root method?
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Odin is only compatible with Samsung devices. What version of Android is your device running I may be able to suggest a root method?
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it's running 4.1.1 with kernel 3.4.0(don't know if that matters..)
HTC Desire S
Hi I have a HTC Desire S with stock gingerbread 2.3.5 and unrooted. I want to flash MIUI v5. But in order to do this I have to install clockworkmod.
Tutorials said that I first have to unlock the bootloader on the htc website. When I tried to do that, i could not get the token key because my hboot is outdated. I have read many tutorials on the internet on updating hboot but I failed to do so as I kept getting a "Write access denied" message in the command line (Windows7). I've tried other methods like using EasyUnlockTool and read on stuff about "gold cards" but this just keep getting more confusing.
I've flashed my galaxy S i9000 so many times before but don't understand why HTC complicates things so much http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/crying.gif
Is there no simpler way to just flash this phone with MIUI? Can this be done without needing to install CWM, updating hboot or rooting?
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Hi I have a HTC Desire S with stock gingerbread 2.3.5 and unrooted. I want to flash MIUI v5. But in order to do this I have to install clockworkmod.
Tutorials said that I first have to unlock the bootloader on the htc website. When I tried to do that, i could not get the token key because my hboot is outdated. I have read many tutorials on the internet on updating hboot but I failed to do so as I kept getting a "Write access denied" message in the command line (Windows7). I've tried other methods like using EasyUnlockTool and read on stuff about "gold cards" but this just keep getting more confusing.
I've flashed my galaxy S i9000 so many times before but don't understand why HTC complicates things so much http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/crying.gif
Is there no simpler way to just flash this phone with MIUI? Can this be done without needing to install CWM, updating hboot or rooting?
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Installing Clockworkmod Recovery, updating HBoot, and rooting are all necessary steps to install MIUI on your phone. I would recommend checking out this guide that will guide you through the process of updating HBoot, rooting, and install Clockworkmod Recovery. Additionally I would recommend checking out this index thread that has many additional guides and information about HBoot, Rooting, ROMs, etc. Overall, start with updating HBoot and then once you have done that move onto, the other steps. Let me know if you still have questions.
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