Epic fail - HTC EVO 3D

So I am on the nj side of the Hudson river. I can walk a long block and reach the water. Anyways what is a fail is I get no service but i get good 4g lol I would think both services should go hand in hand if one works.
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It does seem like it should go hand and hand but you have different components in your phone. 4g radio being one of them, it has nothing to do with the actual phone service.
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! Screw Tupac. "A,O,S,P BACK!" >_<

It's different towers, your 4G is coming from a Clear WiMax tower, your Sprint Voice & 3G is coming from a Sprint Cell tower.

fearbasel04 said:
So I am on the nj side of the Hudson river. I can walk a long block and reach the water. Anyways what is a fail is I get no service but i get good 4g lol I would think both services should go hand in hand if one works.
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Hmm, that got me thinking. Is it possible to roam while still having a 4g signal?

quietstorm said:
Hmm, that got me thinking. Is it possible to roam while still having a 4g signal?
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Don't see why not. Your 4g radio is a completely seperate radio, kinda like wifi.

also wimax is a higher band, meaning it will travel further distances than your 3g, but have less building penetration.

Still sucks... I would think that sprint would have upgraded or add the 4g towers aside the service ones Idk. I just hope it gets better
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fearbasel04 said:
Still sucks... I would think that sprint would have upgraded or add the 4g towers aside the service ones Idk. I just hope it gets better
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Sprint is upgrading their towers to be all-in-one (they call it "Network Vision"). I work in a Sprint store here in NYC and we have a Network Vision tower on our roof right now. According to my manager, we also have an [inactive] LTE tower as well.

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Sprint is upgrading their towers to be all-in-one (they call it "Network Vision"). I work in a Sprint store here in NYC and we have a Network Vision tower on our roof right now. According to my manager, we also have an [inactive] LTE tower as well.
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I thought we were getting that at the beginning of 2011. 2012 is right around the corner now and Sprint hasn't added many 4G locations at all....
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stanglifemike said:
I thought we were getting that at the beginning of 2011. 2012 is right around the corner now and Sprint hasn't added many 4G locations at all....
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I'll prove it to you. In the back we have the boxes for some of the equipment. I haven't got a shot of the 3G box, but here's a shot of the WiMax box:
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Lol @ new sprint connection email

Just thought this little graphic was funny, t-Mobile veering off course.
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That is funny!
Lol. My cousin's Boyfriend, who owns 3 Verizon stores said that Sprint throttles your data and Verizon doesn't. I stood there quietly because there was no sense explaining it.
Overstew said:
Lol. My cousin's Boyfriend, who owns 3 Verizon stores said that Sprint throttles your data and Verizon doesn't. I stood there quietly because there was no sense explaining it.
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He's the competition, of course he is going to say that lol.
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JTNiggle said:
Just thought this little graphic was funny, t-Mobile veering off course.
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You have a new voicemail.
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Overstew said:
Lol. My cousin's Boyfriend, who owns 3 Verizon stores said that Sprint throttles your data and Verizon doesn't. I stood there quietly because there was no sense explaining it.
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I would've told him to put that up in his store and make it known to all the customers to come in and see how quick Sprint comes in there and says "Uh, why do you have a seat over there. Let's chat, shall we?"
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Lol. My cousin's Boyfriend, who owns 3 Verizon stores said that Sprint throttles your data and Verizon doesn't. I stood there quietly because there was no sense explaining it.
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You should have told him that Sprint doesn't throttle data. Their speeds are already too slow.
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overclockxp said:
You should have told him that Sprint doesn't throttle data. Their speeds are already too slow.
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*Ahem*... for you maybe.
12Mbps avg dl for me... I must be the only phone in the area.
overclockxp said:
You should have told him that Sprint doesn't throttle data. Their speeds are already too slow.
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Sprint's speeds near me are far greater than Verizon's. That may be completely due to Verizon's popularity, but I'm 100% happy with Sprint. Their 3G signal alone grants me just over 2,000 kbps DL.
I live in Philadelphia where the speeds are supposed to be great and they are terrible. I get like 200 to 300 kbps on average. The highest my 4g got was 4mbps. To tell you the truth if sprint fixed there network and started to throttle because of it I would be happier and I would actually be able to use data on my 3D.
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I think I'm being throttled!!!!

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Like the title says. Sprint says there's no tower work and no outages. WTF!
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it's shopped.
you can't get that good of signal with Sprint
I'm in the LA area too. Somedays, I have to update my PRL two or three times, then voila, get great speeds back.
Zoolander99 said:
I'm in the LA area too. Somedays, I have to update my PRL two or three times, then voila, get great speeds back.
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Dude, I live in Los Angeles too. Well actually I live fairly close to Los Angeles, data is so ****ty for me. I've looked at the network and keep watching all this so called upgrades done around me but service is still horrible.
I haven't seen scores that low in a long time. What PRL are you guys using? I'm close to the LA area too. Well in OC, close to Huntington Beach if your familiar w/ that area. I usually get about 1.2 meg down...
I've done plenty of profile and prl updates. I've used prl 21079 21080 21082 and the business prl. I've even flashed a different ROM and still the same.
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Been using titan HD and 11115 prl in subs of chicago and been getting 1mb+ since.
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Stop worrying about your prl, they don't change your network speed unless you're roaming.
joehunni said:
Stop worrying about your prl, they don't change your network speed unless you're roaming.
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What this guy said. All the PRL does is tell your phone which towers to use. If anything its Sprint being Sprint.
And also you aren't being throttled.
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YoMaMa7467 said:
Like the title says. Sprint says there's no tower work and no outages. WTF!
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That's everyday Sprint 3G data speeds. Get use to it.
I live in the Detroit area and I'm supposed to be in a quality coverage spot and those are the scores I get everyday. Sprint SUCKS the only reason people use sprint is price that's it.
Then I guess its sprint or this phone. You know. My sister who's got the iPhone on sprint NEVER has these issues and we live in the same area.. What gives.
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YoMaMa7467 said:
Then I guess its sprint or this phone. You know. My sister who's got the iPhone on sprint NEVER has these issues and we live in the same area.. What gives.
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So, you are telling me that your sister can be in the same room as you, run the same speed test, and get much better results?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21128353&postcount=29
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21128353&postcount=29
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This doesn't compensate for a dial-up 3G connection.
Here's what I usually get on 3G in North Carolina!
raptoro07 said:
Here's what I usually get on 3G in North Carolina!
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North carolina is usually better. Are you around the Charlotte area? Charlotte is awesome for Sprint.
Lol @ crying of being throttled when that's sprints normal speeds
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bloodrain954 said:
Lol @ crying of being throttled when that's sprints normal speeds
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lol. Permanently throttled.

4G LTE Nexus and LG Viper on Sprints Website

Maybe I missed the boat. lol
But I just saw these on the site right now.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?INTCID=AB:UBU:HERO:010912:GalaxyNexusPrelaunch:960x320
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Yea....ur just a little late. Its ok tho. Got announced about 2 weeks ago
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430391
Yeah I remember that thread. But I didn't recall it actually being shown on the Sprint website yet. Lol Oh well, my bad.
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i want LTE so bad, i was thinking if i get a nexus from a evo 3d wouldn't that be backwards????
fanesxx said:
i want LTE so bad, i was thinking if i get a nexus from a evo 3d wouldn't that be backwards????
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Depends on how you feel about the device I guess?
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fanesxx said:
i want LTE so bad, i was thinking if i get a nexus from a evo 3d wouldn't that be backwards????
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How would that be backwards?
Lol looks nice tho I doubt there gonna roll LTE out everywhere they said the same thing about 4G when it came out and my area still doesn't have it
reaper24 said:
Lol looks nice tho I doubt there gonna roll LTE out everywhere they said the same thing about 4G when it came out and my area still doesn't have it
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4G Wimax was rolled out by Clearwire, an amateur wireless wholesaler. This current 4G LTE rollout is by Sprint. If Sprint fails to build out LTE by the end of 2013 as projected, then the company probably has doomsday issues.
Jayavarman said:
4G Wimax was rolled out by Clearwire, an amateur wireless wholesaler. This current 4G LTE rollout is by Sprint. If Sprint fails to build out LTE by the end of 2013 as projected, then the company probably has doomsday issues.
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Is it by sprint or light squared?
DarkManX4lf said:
Is it by sprint or light squared?
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The FCC shut down Light Squared alternatives, due to GPS interference. So, Light Squared will soon be Lights Out.
Sprint will have their own LTE network, and if Clear does actually put out a LTE network, they will use that, too. Sprint mentioned possibly using two different LTE technologies.
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The FCC shut down Light Squared alternatives, due to GPS interference. So, Light Squared will soon be Lights Out.
Sprint will have their own LTE network, and if Clear does actually put out a LTE network, they will use that, too. Sprint mentioned possibly using two different LTE technologies.
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Ok so basically if I understand correctly, the LTE towers that are being put up in Texas are by Sprint themselves. Sprint was planning to use LightSquared to expand their network but that is not going to to happen due to recent regulations. So basically now Sprint has to expand their LTE network by themselves.
DarkManX4lf said:
Ok so basically if I understand correctly, the LTE towers that are being put up in Texas are by Sprint themselves. Sprint was planning to use LightSquared to expand their network but that is not going to to happen due to recent regulations. So basically now Sprint has to expand their LTE network by themselves.
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Yes and no. They have subcontracted areas in the country to different people like Samsung and such. It's on their site.
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LTE up in Atlanta

Just saw my icon switch to 4G and ran a quick speedtest. About 12 meg down and 10 meg up. 39ms latency. Woohoo.
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cahiatt said:
Just saw my icon switch to 4G and ran a quick speedtest. About 12 meg down and 10 meg up. 39ms latency. Woohoo.
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shook187 said:
this thread is worthless without pics
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There are some live sites in Atlanta. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1001-atlanta-ga-lte-live/
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That was another test.
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Lucky bastard. That ping is also beautiful.
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What part of atlanta were you in?
More like I am an unlucky bastard. I picked up that signal about three miles from my house on a different tower. Back to 3g at home.
I am in Smyrna. I picked up the 4G signal at Griffin Middle School.
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Bummer, I'm 2.5 miles from a LTE tower and am getting no connection.
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This gives me hope that lte will come soon
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Awesome. Thanks for the information.
Cmon, Boston
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Just an update on LTE in Atlanta. I am still not getting LTE in Buckhead/Midtown area of Atlanta. I will hopefully get to check out the LTE tomorrow as I will be in the Smyrna area.
Even though there are only certain towers on right now for LTE in the Atlanta area, if many of you check your Network settings, you guys should be on CDMA-eHRPD instead of EVDOrA. I have been on it since I got the phone. Everywhere I've traveled from Duluth to Kennessaw to Snellville.
cahiatt said:
More like I am an unlucky bastard. I picked up that signal about three miles from my house on a different tower. Back to 3g at home.
I am in Smyrna. I picked up the 4G signal at Griffin Middle School.
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Smyrna, TN is in the next round
btw, your city makes google searches in my city more complicated sometimes..
Sweet! Hopefully a couple more will go up by the time I get the phone..
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Even though there are only certain towers on right now for LTE in the Atlanta area, if many of you check your Network settings, you guys should be on CDMA-eHRPD instead of EVDOrA. I have been on it since I got the phone. Everywhere I've traveled from Duluth to Kennessaw to Snellville.
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Switch your network mode to CDMA only and you'll be on EVDO Rev A.
How's the speed and reception indoors?
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This is def good news and an fu to all the ppl who knocked us for getting a phone without a LTE network...I dont see how its any different than how any other carrier deployed 4g.
Hurry up Dallas!
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Sprint is upgrading my area I guess

Has anybody experienced a sudden change in their 3g speed as well? Look what I am getting.....daaaamn
Am I being network vision-ified????
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flex360 said:
Has anybody experienced a sudden change in their 3g speed as well? Look what I am getting.....daaaamn
Am I being network vision-ified????
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Same here look at the new 3g coverage map
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where can i find that map?
Definitely feeling the drag....
I live in Atlanta and Its been having a lot of ups and downs for a while here. but now i've got the new EVO 4g LTE and I am just assuming its because the 3g is getting raped all over the place because they havent launched the LTE network and so everyone(including myself) has to use the hell out of it until they get the new network up and running. I've heard it should be "really really really really really soon." quoting the sprint rep the other day
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where can i find that map?
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TW1L1GHT_K1N6 said:
I live in Atlanta and Its been having a lot of ups and downs for a while here. but now i've got the new EVO 4g LTE and I am just assuming its because the 3g is getting raped all over the place because they havent launched the LTE network and so everyone(including myself) has to use the hell out of it until they get the new network up and running. I've heard it should be "really really really really really soon." quoting the sprint rep the other day
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You should try updating your profile.. that's what I did now everything is better. With one bar 3g I'm well over 800kbps
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Same here look at the new 3g coverage map
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The "new" 3G map looks like the old 3G map for my area..it says I'm fully covered for 3G but my data speeds suck.....
go to this site to see improvements in your area
https://network.sprint.com/
What does your mobile network type say in about-network? Evdo a or eHRRP?
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The "new" 3G map looks like the old 3G map for my area..it says I'm fully covered for 3G but my data speeds suck.....
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Mine says the same but now off one bar I'm doing about 1200kbps keeps going up
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Has anybody experienced a sudden change in their 3g speed as well? Look what I am getting.....daaaamn
Am I being network vision-ified????
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I will get those speeds either late at night or early in the morning. Any time during the day when people are actually using data and im around 300kb. Do another test and see what you get.
I use to have 19 upgrades to be now I have 15 yay LTE is almost complete
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We just had updates in central Wisconsin a month or two ago and my data went from about 200k to about 2.2Mbps overnight. My evo lte connects perfectly to the new tower hardware, but is slow (100-150) on the older towers. Oddly, we also now have wimax in the woods near the upgraded tower, but it doesn't show on sprints map.
According to the local techs I know, the hardware throughout northern Wisconsin is about 50% complete and late should be set to go in all current 3g areas of the state by December...but that implied sprint just flips the switch the moment they can.
Either way, my findings are evo with new tower, great...with old tower slightly worse than my nexus.
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