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What is the main use of this app? What i mean is..is it mainly only for people who does alot of ROM switching...so they have to save there apps?
If someone (Like Me) who will never switch there ROM and plan on staying on the ROM they have...would they still NEED this app? If so..for what purpose?
DJR0D said:
What is the main use of this app? What i mean is..is it mainly only for people who does alot of ROM switching...so they have to save there apps?
If someone (Like Me) who will never switch there ROM and plan on staying on the ROM they have...would they still NEED this app? If so..for what purpose?
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In my opinion, yes.
Just because you never switch roms doesn't mean you don't need a backup. Ttitanum can be used to back up apps, apps data & system setting (an of course restore all, some or one).
More than likely at some point in the life of your tablet you will start getting force closings, lockup, etc, due to an errant app, incompatibility or whatever. In those situations, sometimes it is necessary to do a fatcory/data reset & poof there goes all your installed apps & settings. Reinstall titanium after the reset & restore & your back in business OR you can spend lots of time re-downloading, installing & configuring things the way you want them.
It's also a good idea to use CWM to do a nandroid backup just in case.
Al
aabbondanza said:
In my opinion, yes.
Just because you never switch roms doesn't mean you don't need a backup. Ttitanum can be used to back up apps, apps data & system setting (an of course restore all, some or one).
More than likely at some point in the life of your tablet you will start getting force closings, lockup, etc, due to an errant app, incompatibility or whatever. In those situations, sometimes it is necessary to do a fatcory/data reset & poof there goes all your installed apps & settings. Reinstall titanium after the reset & restore & your back in business OR you can spend lots of time re-downloading, installing & configuring things the way you want them.
It's also a good idea to use CWM to do a nandroid backup just in case.
Al
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Thanks alot for that. Just what i wanted to know. Guess ill just do a normal backup. But yea...i hope i never get in that situation where i need to reinstall. My Tab came with VEGAN TAB 7.0 already on it. Ive never did all the ROOT stuff. Doesnt look to easy to me..even tho i know it will be.
DJR0D said:
Thanks alot for that. Just what i wanted to know. Guess ill just do a normal backup. But yea...i hope i never get in that situation where i need to reinstall. My Tab came with VEGAN TAB 7.0 already on it. Ive never did all the ROOT stuff. Doesnt look to easy to me..even tho i know it will be.
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All custom roms on the gTab are already rooted. Only if you go back to stock will they not be.
Installing roms & using nvflash are really much easier that they look/sound.
Take a look at 'goodintentions' site - Viewsonic GTablet For Dummies - at http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/ for step by step instructions.
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All custom roms on the gTab are already rooted. Only if you go back to stock will they not be.
Installing roms & using nvflash are really much easier that they look/sound.
Take a look at 'goodintentions' site - Viewsonic GTablet For Dummies - at http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/ for step by step instructions.
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Yea...the ROOT was done by the person who sent it to me. Im sure its easy. But i think its more my fear of something going wrong. I dont have that kind of money to buy another one. See all these horror stories and stuff.
But yea..i DO think i need to learn this for myself. In case something goes wrong. Trying to think positive tho. I have that site book marked for a month now. just in case. Thanks for the info.
Unfortunately, I was one of the few that got left behind when VZW pulled the update. I really want to update, even with the VM bug and everything. I came across this guide on how to manually upgrade to GB but I noticed it said it completely wipes my phone. Now I know Backup Assistant saves my contacts, my music is on my SD card so I'm not too worried about that. I'm afraid I might lose app data suchas all the hours and HOURS I put into Angry Birds Rio to get 3 stars on every level. Can anyone help me find a way to fully save all of my app data before I manually upgrade? BTW I've never rooted and I'm on stock Froyo
Do you plan on rooting? If so use the Revolutionary method it works great and there are plenty of How To guides to step you through it. As far as backing up your Angry Birds, Titanium Backup works very well. However, you do need root access for that app to work. The free version will do what your looking for. The pro version adds a couple nice features if you are going to play around with some different ROMs.
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Do you plan on rooting? If so use the Revolutionary method it works great and there are plenty of How To guides to step you through it. As far as backing up your Angry Birds, Titanium Backup works very well. However, you do need root access for that app to work. The free version will do what your looking for. The pro version adds a couple nice features if you are going to play around with some different ROMs.
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I wasn't really planning on rooting. Would you just suggest waiting another eternity for VZW and HTC to push out the fixed version of GB?
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My backup pro will work
I'm still fairly new to the root world. I don't know or have not read of any way to back up your apps reliably without root access. Titanium backup, and Mybackup Pro are the 2 most common apps used to make back ups. There might be more? Titanium requires root, where Mybackup claims to have some functionality without root access.
From mybackup pro's website:
Key facts about MyBackup Pro:
Works on non-root phones, as well as root phones.
Root phones have the ability to backup APK+Data and Market Links.
Titanium has a free version that you can use that will back up your apps and all of their data. The Pro version adds a couple nice features that are handy for people that flash roms and like to change stuff around often.
Without root access Mybackup only does:
Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)
Contacts
Call log
Browser bookmarks
SMS (text messages)
MMS (attachments in messages)
System Settings
Home screens (including HTC Sense UI)
Alarms
Dictionary
Calendar
Music playlists
Integrated third party applications
Not really what you want. Since you would lose your angry birds data and spend hours trying to gain 3 stars again on the levels! If you flashed the new Ruu.
It boils down to what you are comfortable doing I guess. Rooting is not for everyone. If you do not want to root you are pretty much stuck waiting on vzw and htc to get their OTA fixed and pushed back out.
Rooting is easy with Revolutionary, but you do void your warranty and open the door to being able to delete important system files. Once you root most likely you will find it hard to resist the urge to flash and try out new roms to!
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Unfortunately, I was one of the few that got left behind when VZW pulled the update. I really want to update, even with the VM bug and everything. I came across this guide on how to manually upgrade to GB but I noticed it said it completely wipes my phone. Now I know Backup Assistant saves my contacts, my music is on my SD card so I'm not too worried about that. I'm afraid I might lose app data suchas all the hours and HOURS I put into Angry Birds Rio to get 3 stars on every level. Can anyone help me find a way to fully save all of my app data before I manually upgrade? BTW I've never rooted and I'm on stock Froyo
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Could you link me to the guide you are referring to?
I think the easiest way is to just root it. Revolutionary method is pretty easy (I hear). I used the old school ADB method (which was nerve racking for me bc I am no Android guru). The Revolutionary method is a little harder to un-root though.
Are you opposed to rooting bc of the warranty issue? After you root than you can back up all your data. I don't know of a way to back up data wo root. Plus with root access you can flash some sweet roms.
If you will link me to the guide I will try to remember to get back to you with some more thoughts
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I'm still fairly new to the root world. I don't know or have not read of any way to back up your apps reliably without root access. Titanium backup, and Mybackup Pro are the 2 most common apps used to make back ups. There might be more? Titanium requires root, where Mybackup claims to have some functionality without root access.
From mybackup pro's website:
Key facts about MyBackup Pro:
Works on non-root phones, as well as root phones.
Root phones have the ability to backup APK+Data and Market Links.
Titanium has a free version that you can use that will back up your apps and all of their data. The Pro version adds a couple nice features that are handy for people that flash roms and like to change stuff around often.
Without root access Mybackup only does:
Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)
Contacts
Call log
Browser bookmarks
SMS (text messages)
MMS (attachments in messages)
System Settings
Home screens (including HTC Sense UI)
Alarms
Dictionary
Calendar
Music playlists
Integrated third party applications
Not really what you want. Since you would lose your angry birds data and spend hours trying to gain 3 stars again on the levels! If you flashed the new Ruu.
It boils down to what you are comfortable doing I guess. Rooting is not for everyone. If you do not want to root you are pretty much stuck waiting on vzw and htc to get their OTA fixed and pushed back out.
Rooting is easy with Revolutionary, but you do void your warranty and open the door to being able to delete important system files. Once you root most likely you will find it hard to resist the urge to flash and try out new roms to!
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Yeah, I don't really wanna root. I might have to try that out. But when you say:
"Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)"
^doesn't the "APK=data" part mean the saves within each app?
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Could you link me to the guide you are referring to?
I think the easiest way is to just root it. Revolutionary method is pretty easy (I hear). I used the old school ADB method (which was nerve racking for me bc I am no Android guru). The Revolutionary method is a little harder to un-root though.
Are you opposed to rooting bc of the warranty issue? After you root than you can back up all your data. I don't know of a way to back up data wo root. Plus with root access you can flash some sweet roms.
If you will link me to the guide I will try to remember to get back to you with some more thoughts
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-rom-radio-and-full-ruu-for-htc-thunderbolt/
Yeah, I dont really want to root bc of the warranty thing. ^There it is.
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Yeah, I don't really wanna root. I might have to try that out. But when you say:
"Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)"
^doesn't the "APK=data" part mean the saves within each app?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-rom-radio-and-full-ruu-for-htc-thunderbolt/
Yeah, I dont really want to root bc of the warranty thing. ^There it is.
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Oh yeah. that file will most certainly wipe you out and you'll have to start all over. I still haven't found a solution for backing up wo out root. Sorry.
I'm pretty sure backing up the .apk part isn't a big deal, worst case you can just redownload that. You want the DATA part backed up. The apk is just the file format android uses to install software. Like .exe in windows. (I'm pretty sure at least.)
The post from android police you linked will definitely wipe everything. If you don't make a root accessible back up you will lose all of your app data.
I totally understand the warranty concern. I held out for as long as I could. I received the OTA to GB and was very unimpressed. After hoping for months that the update would be more than what it is, I took the leap into freedom of root and made my phone what I wanted it to be.
Sounds like you should check out some new backgrounds to keep you interested in your current setup.
thepolishguy - Don't worry about it bro. Thanks for trying to help. Left you a thanks
Stratejaket - That's Exactly how I was feeling. If this GB update fix doesn't come soon, I will definitely look into rooting. Lol I was getting bored with this thing lol. Also left you a thanks for trying to help. *runs to zedge for a new background*
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*runs to zedge for a new background*
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HAHA Good Luck man.
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Honeybadger said:
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
440bro said:
+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
440bro said:
Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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PrincessKiwi said:
^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
440bro said:
Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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Ok help!! I finally broke down and bought an unlocked zoom on the net. It is a great phone, we love it. I use ultrame for a carrier, now it comes down to this> The phone originally is ATT, I read all over here and am confused, if I root it is there a way to remove the ATT software?? will it really mess with the GPS?? will I loose other functions on the phone??? I am confused and yes I talk to myself at times. But I am getting fifty responses all different as to what to do, or just leave the phone alone? It works great, camera is beyond belief. any opinions?????????thanks red423
red423 said:
Ok help!! I finally broke down and bought an unlocked zoom on the net. It is a great phone, we love it. I use ultrame for a carrier, now it comes down to this> The phone originally is ATT, I read all over here and am confused, if I root it is there a way to remove the ATT software?? will it really mess with the GPS?? will I loose other functions on the phone??? I am confused and yes I talk to myself at times. But I am getting fifty responses all different as to what to do, or just leave the phone alone? It works great, camera is beyond belief. any opinions?????????thanks red423
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If you root with kingoroot nothing will happen to your gps.. Mine works just fine. After root, use titanium backup to delete the att bloat and you will have no worries.
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Ok help!! I finally broke down and bought an unlocked zoom on the net. It is a great phone, we love it. I use ultrame for a carrier, now it comes down to this> The phone originally is ATT, I read all over here and am confused, if I root it is there a way to remove the ATT software?? will it really mess with the GPS?? will I loose other functions on the phone??? I am confused and yes I talk to myself at times. But I am getting fifty responses all different as to what to do, or just leave the phone alone? It works great, camera is beyond belief. any opinions?????????thanks red423
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I understand your worries but as the above member said, you have nothing to worry about. I have the International unlocked version (Not AT&T's) and I rooted it with 'Kingo Root' 2 weeks ago and everything is fine.
So, by acquiring root, you can use Titanium Backup to disable/freeze or delete AT&T apks. Now I suggest you only freeze them first, reboot your phone, use it a bit, make sure there are no errors happening since some APKs are needed by the system for your phone to function or else it will crash and not boot-up properly. So freeze first, test your phone, if all is good, delete them. I personally only delete apks that I am sure I don't need or those that I can re-download from the Play Store if need be. The rest, I just freeze them and forget about them. They can't act on their own if they're frozen =).
Btw, you can still disable/freeze apps without root by going to System settings - More - Application manager, and swipe to "All" category, and find the ones you don't want, click on them, and then click on "Turn Off". (I still prefer Titanium Backup since it shows me all apks and freezes all of them)
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Ok I got the root, so the titanium says no freeze without donating, there are a few ATT apps that show up, on the zoom which ones have you guys just removed forever???? or is there another program like titanium to remove att bloat ware???? AND A BIG THANK YOU FOR REPLYING!!!!!!!!! I am all rooted now and want to make sure if i erase apk's they are the correct ones I cant freeze. red423
Ramsey said:
I understand your worries but as the above member said, you have nothing to worry about. I have the International unlocked version (Not AT&T's) and I rooted it with 'Kingo Root' 2 weeks ago and everything is fine.
So, by acquiring root, you can use Titanium Backup to disable/freeze or delete AT&T apks. Now I suggest you only freeze them first, reboot your phone, use it a bit, make sure there are no errors happening since some APKs are needed by the system for your phone to function or else it will crash and not boot-up properly. So freeze first, test your phone, if all is good, delete them. I personally only delete apks that I am sure I don't need or those that I can re-download from the Play Store if need be. The rest, I just freeze them and forget about them. They can't act on their own if they're frozen =).
Btw, you can still disable/freeze apps without root by going to System settings - More - Application manager, and swipe to "All" category, and find the ones you don't want, click on them, and then click on "Turn Off". (I still prefer Titanium Backup since it shows me all apks and freezes all of them)
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red423 said:
Ok I got the root, so the titanium says no freeze without donating, there are a few ATT apps that show up, on the zoom which ones have you guys just removed forever???? or is there another program like titanium to remove att bloat ware???? AND A BIG THANK YOU FOR REPLYING!!!!!!!!! I am all rooted now and want to make sure if i erase apk's they are the correct ones I cant freeze. red423
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Sorry I am using the International version so I don't know which AT&T to remove. I didn't get any carrier bloatware with my phone.
You guys rock!!!!!!
Well I have disabled several of the old ATT apps. and the phone screams, very impressive. If go to samsung will it update to kit kat ????
Got this far why not go all the way????????????? thanks red423
red423 said:
Well I have disabled several of the old ATT apps. and the phone screams, very impressive. If go to samsung will it update to kit kat ????
Got this far why not go all the way????????????? thanks red423
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Great! glad it worked out. I had an S4 prior to this and this Zoom is quicker and smoother I just miss the bigger screen + resolution and thinner body.
There's no kitkat update yet but apparently they announced it and should be out in the coming months hopefully!
im getting tired of a program on my phone called com.skymobi.lockfram.iphone, as it keeps installing junk, and i have very little free space at the moment. but attemting to find the program will result in a fail, as i cannot locate it, however, using terminal emulator, i can find it, but im unable to remove it, because its in use. so my question is, is there some way, to remove apps/stuff from the phone, while its connected to usb, and not being turned on with android IE some recovery mode, or similar.
the phone is a fake galaxy s5, and i cant remember the features in its very low level recovery menu.
as well as a "factory mode" menu, with debug functions.
Factory reset - I would be careful about which apps I install next time. There is probably some kind of app in the App Manager that looks like a system app or something which you would otherwise not remove... it's a sneaky piece of software, kind of like an Android "virus" if you will. Just err on the safe side, wipe your phone and start over. And stop installing crap, ie. read disclaimers, double check permissions, etc. A flashlight app shouldn't need access to the Internet, just sayin'.
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im getting tired of a program on my phone called com.skymobi.lockfram.iphone, as it keeps installing junk, and i have very little free space at the moment. but attemting to find the program will result in a fail, as i cannot locate it, however, using terminal emulator, i can find it, but im unable to remove it, because its in use. so my question is, is there some way, to remove apps/stuff from the phone, while its connected to usb, and not being turned on with android IE some recovery mode, or similar.
the phone is a fake galaxy s5, and i cant remember the features in its very low level recovery menu.
as well as a "factory mode" menu, with debug functions.
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good antivirus for android malware https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.mobilesecurity&hl=en
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Factory reset - I would be careful about which apps I install next time. There is probably some kind of app in the App Manager that looks like a system app or something which you would otherwise not remove... it's a sneaky piece of software, kind of like an Android "virus" if you will. Just err on the safe side, wipe your phone and start over. And stop installing crap, ie. read disclaimers, double check permissions, etc. A flashlight app shouldn't need access to the Internet, just sayin'.
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problem is, i have had it factory reset, and the program is installed from the start, its there after a factory reset, where the only thing i installed was terminal, to use pm list packages to check for it.
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problem is, i have had it factory reset, and the program is installed from the start, its there after a factory reset, where the only thing i installed was terminal, to use pm list packages to check for it.
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Is there a way you could flash an image of sort? Like wiping the entire phone and reflashing the ROM or stock image... I could probably help you more if I knew the exact model of your phone as you mentioned it's a fake S5. Anyways, if the app in question installed itself in /system (/system/priv-app for instance) then a factory reset from within your phone won't cut it. You need to "reinstall the operating system", if you will, in order to get rid of it for sure.
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good antivirus for android malware https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.mobilesecurity&hl=en
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i have allready tried antivirus programs, it finds it, but cannot do anything with it, cant remember the name, but i think it was avg, where it said, virus removed, but it still installed apps at random, and the com.skymobi.lockframe.iphone was still there.
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good antivirus for android malware https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.mobilesecurity&hl=en
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Is there a way you could flash an image of sort? Like wiping the entire phone and reflashing the ROM or stock image... I could probably help you more if I knew the exact model of your phone as you mentioned it's a fake S5. Anyways, if the app in question installed itself in /system (/system/priv-app for instance) then a factory reset from within your phone won't cut it. You need to "reinstall the operating system", if you will, in order to get rid of it for sure.
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i have asked the guy i bought it from online, for a new rom, since he states it has been updated, but the installer wont work on anything other than windows xp, which presents a problem, i have no windows xp computers. as well as the fact, the software version, it states to install, is the same as it already has(looking through factory menu) and i dont have another rom to put on it, as its a fake S5, i doubt a proper S5 rom would work. and would rather then wait, and save up enough for a real phone, not a replica of one.
i just wanted to know, if there was some way, to try to remove it without turning on the device, since i think its unable to remove, because its running the app on startup. but if i can get someone a rom to work on, could someone try to find some way for me to install it from a windows 7 or never system?
As I said in my previous post, it would help to have your exact model number. "Fake S5" isn't very helpful. You would find this in "Settings -> About". Or you can post the first 6 digits of your IMEI (not the whole thing), that might help.
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As I said in my previous post, it would help to have your exact model number. "Fake S5" isn't very helpful. You would find this in "Settings -> About". Or you can post the first 6 digits of your IMEI (not the whole thing), that might help.
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model number, taken from settings: SM-G900H
Baseband Version: G900HVZNU1AND1
Kernel Version: [email protected]#1Wed Apr 02 15:17:34 KST 2014
Build Number: KOT49H.G900HSKSU1ANCE
Custom Build Version: 1409757535
it shows 2 IMEI numbers, when looking in the factory mode, so listing both and 8 digits, just for fun..
IMEI1:35523603
IMEI2:35262106
hope this helps.
if not, then just ask for whatever info, you may need.
Are you sure its not a real S5... If not its such a good clone I wonder if a regular S5 ROM would do...
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Are you sure its not a real S5... If not its such a good clone I wonder if a regular S5 ROM would do...
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im not really sure, but since it has 1 GB ram, and octa core cpu, and a MTK core, i doubt its real, it does have all the features, and all works, except air gestures, and NFC. so im not sure if a stock S5 rom would work, since its different CPU's. so would rather get the most compatible rom out there, and try that. not sure if one excist, that works with ANYTHING in any device.
also a real S5 would not have such bad antenna's as this one, i can hardly get a signal out on the country, but it gets full signal as i near a city, of some size. but i might be able to fix that later, after i see what antenna it has, and the price of one.
but im ready to install a custom rom, so long as it works fine after.
also a small note, its a very high quality fake, the case is allmost believable, the headphones are same look, and almost same quality. the only thing thats bad, is the functions that dont work, and the antenna quality, it can easilly multitask, with chrome, and poweramp. so it does the job it was bought for, and that job was to save up money for an actual phone, maybe a S5, but i might do a Xperia Z2 or Z3.
Its just that your device, if incompatible with S5, means that its so rare and niche that no one probably developed a way to root it and much ROMs... Anyway, your rogue app is installed as a system app and is immune to factory resets, you have to find a way to get it out of there. The way you suggested won't work, also, to clarify. You can't play with the phone's memory when its off. The problem is that the rogue app is in /system and you need root to even tinker with that. Ideally you could just flash a new image that would overwrite /system completely.
Edit -- I'm astounded by how they can almost completely replicate a phone and the intellectual property contained within it.
here is the rom, i got from the guy who sold it to me, i have NO clue how to edit it, or remove things, and add other things to it, so if someone could either teach me, or remove the items containing "com.skymobi" i would really appreciate it.
ROM Download
So, wait. Having in mind that you can track the app means that your phone is rooted. Or does it? The question arises: why don't you just delete the damn app, if you're already rooted, with Titanium Backup? I mean seriously. If it's a FakeS5 woth an octa core chipset, it's probably with the MTK6592. If you're not rooted, then just find a tool that can root this chipset, you don't need a device-specific root-tool to do that. I am currently on my phone so I can't currently search, but God, this is just a simple fix. Google MTK6592 root, root your phone, install TiBU, freeze or delete the pesky app. Titanium Backup doesn't care if the app is "in use or running"
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So, wait. Having in mind that you can track the app means that your phone is rooted. Or does it? The question arises: why don't you just delete the damn app, if you're already rooted, with Titanium Backup? I mean seriously. If it's a FakeS5 woth an octa core chipset, it's probably with the MTK6592. If you're not rooted, then just find a tool that can root this chipset, you don't need a device-specific root-tool to do that. I am currently on my phone so I can't currently search, but God, this is just a simple fix. Google MTK6592 root, root your phone, install TiBU, freeze or delete the pesky app. Titanium Backup doesn't care if the app is "in use or running"
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Clearly you know a bit more than me about those clones, I never used one... I guess there's a thing called "droid tools" for MTK chipsets.
NoDze said:
So, wait. Having in mind that you can track the app means that your phone is rooted. Or does it? The question arises: why don't you just delete the damn app, if you're already rooted, with Titanium Backup? I mean seriously. If it's a FakeS5 woth an octa core chipset, it's probably with the MTK6592. If you're not rooted, then just find a tool that can root this chipset, you don't need a device-specific root-tool to do that. I am currently on my phone so I can't currently search, but God, this is just a simple fix. Google MTK6592 root, root your phone, install TiBU, freeze or delete the pesky app. Titanium Backup doesn't care if the app is "in use or running"
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA Free mobile app
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my phone is rooted, its the first thing i do to any new android phone. the problem is, i cant "see" the app anywhere, i can only see its folder, where it places the .apk files before installing them, and going by that name, i used terminal, to see it is an app running, but no matter what i use, other than terminal, it cannot find the program, trying to use terminal to remove or disable the app, results in a fail, since its allways running.
so its not as simple as you stated. though i wish it WAS that easy, then i would not need to go to a forum, to ask for help.
and before you ask, yes i run terminal with root acces, and SU. so thats not the problem.
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Clearly you know a bit more than me about those clones, I never used one... I guess there's a thing called "droid tools" for MTK chipsets.
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just researched the droid tools, it seems straight forward, and easy to create a backup of the rom, and even easier, to select what to install from said rom. going to try and see if i can get it working, will post results here, as soon as possible.
Good. Hopefully you will have some conclusive results for us. I'm sorry I couldn't point you in a better direction, I honestly never dealt with MTK phones - nor I do I ever wish to! Hahaha
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Good. Hopefully you will have some conclusive results for us. I'm sorry I couldn't point you in a better direction, I honestly never dealt with MTK phones - nor I do I ever wish to! Hahaha
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fair enough, i will say, its a decent phone, for the price, but otherwise, i would also steer clear of them. but just found out how to remove it, on the device, using root app delete. it was under system apps and OS components, hidden as something called system locker, just thought it was weird it was there, so now the task comes in, trying to remove it from the backup i have made, using mtk droid tools, and see what happens. but for now, problem solved.
now the only thing, thats not working on it, is the smart cover app, it crashes if i try to unlock it, while the smart cover is on, but i bet its just a matter of finding, and updating it, or possibly, remove it fully, and reinstall it.
You should have frozen the app first rather than removing. The former has the benefits of the latter except that it is not uninstalled. This way, you could check if the device encounters any problem.