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Both the Droid X and Droid 2 are locked down, but both can be overclocked, why is that?
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Requires a custom kernel
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Requires a custom kernel
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which requires an unlocked bootloader
As far as I know, neither the X or D2 have an unlocked bootloader or kernel access...
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mistawolfe said:
As far as I know, neither the X or D2 have an unlocked bootloader or kernel access...
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Exactly, yet both can be overclocked
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Exactly, yet both can be overclocked
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I love the default answer people give to this question. Both are as locked down as this phone.
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Not sure, has moto released their source code? Without source from moto it is damn near impossible to make a custom kernel (at least the way i understand it). No custom kernel means no overclocking. Also it seems development on this phone has been pretty limited to newcomers. Once we start getting more experience support, things should take off. Nitro just released his first x2 rom and ThatDudeButch is working on his rom...these two guys alone are great resources but also with Butch we also get TeamBamf support and they can really make things happen. Not to mention, we all saw what p3droid was able to do in about a day. So to sum this all up..I guess we just have to be patient and hope more developers jump on board.
The droid 2 and the droid x can be overclocked because they actually made dev versions of those phones that were unlocked, which afforded a developer a peak under the hood so a kernel module could be written. With root that module can be installed on the locked kernel and over clock abilities are accessible. The X2 had no developer version, no way to write the proper module. Soooooo we're screwed until Moto and Big Red decide to give us the keys to our own phones.
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The droid 2 and the droid x can be overclocked because they actually made dev versions of those phones that were unlocked, which afforded a developer a peak under the hood so a kernel module could be written. With root that module can be installed on the locked kernel and over clock abilities are accessible. The X2 had no developer version, no way to write the proper module. Soooooo we're screwed until Moto and Big Red decide to give us the keys to our own phones.
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Disappointing to say the least. I have been happy with my rooted GB X2 so far but I still feel so... limited with it. A change to a different brand is surely resurfacing again in my head. Been drooling over the DINC2 for a while now but have been holding strong for the X2 waiting for some kind of miracle soon.
I'd love to see a 1.4-1.5 ghz OC on this bad boy along with AOSP GB D:.
juhde said:
The droid 2 and the droid x can be overclocked because they actually made dev versions of those phones that were unlocked, which afforded a developer a peak under the hood so a kernel module could be written. With root that module can be installed on the locked kernel and over clock abilities are accessible. The X2 had no developer version, no way to write the proper module. Soooooo we're screwed until Moto and Big Red decide to give us the keys to our own phones.
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This is the kind of answer we needed, although it isn't a happy one.
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juhde said:
The droid 2 and the droid x can be overclocked because they actually made dev versions of those phones that were unlocked, which afforded a developer a peak under the hood so a kernel module could be written. With root that module can be installed on the locked kernel and over clock abilities are accessible. The X2 had no developer version, no way to write the proper module. Soooooo we're screwed until Moto and Big Red decide to give us the keys to our own phones.
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Damn you for making sense and crushing all our dreams, jerk <3
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*pops a vicodin*
Blame motorola for not making a x2 dev phone, but mostly for encrypting the bootloader keys so well. If we could just get Geohot interested he'd probably have the keys faster than a junkie diving into the pool for a crack rock.
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If we could just get Geohot interested
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Make sure he knows its not made by Sony. and no its a rabbit, I think it lives under the doghouse
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Over the course of Sunday (9/4/2011) I learned that it is possible to almost flawlessly port Atrix 4G ROM's (excluding CM7!) to Droid X2. They are fully functional minus some cosmetic changes that need to be made for CDMA/Verizon. Over the course of the next week I will be porting some ROM's to Droid X2. If you want to learn more about it then join us on IRC irc.freenode.net #droidx2
This is the best news I've ever heard. Yes...
Just sprung a massive geek B
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Like Christmas in September...
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garywojdan81 said:
Like Christmas in September...
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This!!!!
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Inb4 I donate.
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Your a busy one, Naven! Your hacks here, plus porting these ROMS over, AND your supporting your EC09 kernel over at the Fascinate?! I thank you for your hard work and contributing efforts.
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Would these roms be based on 2.3.4? If so, would it giver the better support for the dual core processor?
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Would these roms be based on 2.3.4? If so, would it giver the better support for the dual core processor?
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This is what I'd like to know and just if anyone can say what good ROM's are out for it?
omg if you can port over the alien rom id be in heaven
Basically, go have a look at the Atrix 4G Development Forum. That will give you some kind of an idea. Anything based on Blur 2.3.3 and up and Nvidia Tegra 2 250 AP20H chips seems to be game. The Atrix works well because it is practically the same phone as the Droid X2.
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Basically, go have a look at the Atrix 4G Development Forum. That will give you some kind of an idea. Anything based on Blur 2.3.3 and up and Nvidia Tegra 2 250 AP20H chips seems to be game. The Atrix works well because it is practically the same phone as the Droid X2.
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Does that mean no custom roms? Also i hate to say/ ask, why no cm7?
Regardless YOUR SIR ARE EPIC, THANKYOU!!!!!!!
Does that Mean the bootloader could also be ported, in its fully unlocked glory?
I'll Be Looking Forward To What You Bring Over. Everyday Things Keep Getting Better For The DX2 Owners. I Still Can't Believe Dev's Were Gonna Just Pass This Phone By. There's WAY To Much Potential And Thanks To You Naven, You're Making It Happen. Great Way To Start The Week. Thanks Alot!
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You speak like an immature child.
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Doesn't anyone have anything better to do than to pick on this guy? Don't spoil this news by hi- jacking this thread for inconsequential posts.
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how would this work? i thought that everything had to be signed for it to run?
Would that mean it's possible to unlock the boot loader too?
Checking out the Atrix threads I came across this...
[MOD] Webtop Via HDMI Without a Dock *NEW* Added support for 4.5.91 (Untested) *NEW*
Would that be possible to bake into an X2 ROM? I'm not quite sure if the webtop function on the atrix is software or hardware based.
You are the man! I can't wait.
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Would that mean it's possible to unlock the boot loader too?
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No. The bootloader is signed. Even the international [Atrix] users couldn't use the ATT/USA bootloader, one had to be made specifically for them.
Mod :delete please
Boner alert!
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I bought an X2 a few weeks ago because it was available to me for $50 (yeah, I'm. Cheap). I really love it (except for the physical buttons (wtf?)) and I really wanted something larger than my Incredible. However after reading threads for a few weeks it just really seems the development for the X2 is being past over for older equipment (i.e. my Viewsonic G Tab?) & newer phones. Did I pick the wrong phone??
I'm not crazy techie, so I don't know the complexity, but the Droid, the Droid X & the Droid 2 have been cracked. Did Motorola really go to so much trouble making the X2 so different that it is much more difficult to crack or are the efforts to crack this phone being passed over for some reason? Do I just need to avoid Motorola phones in the future?
Like I said I'm not a very technical, but have contributed (donation-wise) to multiple ROMs I used on my Incredible & gTab & I just thought I would see similar flexibility on the X2 by now, so I just want to know if I need move on from the X2 or not?
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Yeah, I don't really run that much and I regularly see only about 3-9MB avail. ;(
I'm starting to think this is a middle of the road phone that I should have just past by & it seems the developers think so as well. Guess I should have researched more, not been so cheap & been less impatient.
Well I'm cheap, so I'll need to wait for better pricing on the latest phones, but if Motorola is going to be such a problem, then I guess I need to go with Samsung or HTC.
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The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Agreed, they do however, run very well on any of the current available roms imo. The devs have done an excellent job of working with what we have.
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The above is true. Nitro is the best thing that happened to this phone. Try eclipse out and see how you like it then.
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If you don't have 4g in your area, x2 is your best bet. Im running eclipse and am more than happy to keep x2 until mid 2013 when 4g arrives in my area. If you have 4g, get something else.
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The only thing that sux about this phone is not having an unlocked bootloader but with the roms we have available it runs super smooth and it's reliable and yes nitro is the best thing to happen to this phone...don't get discouraged paying 50 bucks for this dualcore phone is a steal bro...
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Please enlighten us noobs on this subject professor wolf lol
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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the lack of non-stock ROMs is partially because of the bootloader. The other reason is because of lack of interest.
Droid X, 2, 2 Global all still have locked bootloaders (I believe), yet a lot of custom ROMs including CyanogenMod and MIUI. Not sure if all the dual-core Motorolas are unlocked, but I know some are.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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No actual ROMs huh? So a ROM isn't a ROM because it doesn't have a custom kernel? What do you call Eclipse? What do you call Liberty?
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
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You talking about me? Or the newbs?
I was able to trade my dx2 for an incredible 2 and the difference is astounding. The dx2 has good hardware and amazing build quality but a lot of the major selling points of the phone don't mean anything. Qhd is a gimmick, as is dual-core IMO. Nothing is built to take advantage of it, including Android.
The best thing about the dx2 was the build quality and feel which is second to none. Everything about the hardware is more refined than my INC2. Eclipse is a great ROM too and makes this device worthwhile.
All in all, I think this phone has a chance at being everything that the x was but it is going to require more people to stand up.
Bottom line: if you want a phone for a specific ROM/kernel, do your research before you spend your cash. Your response to your device will be based on your expectations.
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The other issue, with the rate the new "bigger badder" phones are popping up, Dev's can't keep up, nor afford to buy every phone on the block. This Android runs 2.2.2, the next runs 2.3.5, the next runs 4.0.1, you get the point. These 1 man teams like Nitro are insane working on 3/4 phones at a time, and building their rom at a pace that keeps up with Android builds and hardware differences. Not to mention the continued support despite the pace of new phones being released. If you want everything under the sun, buy a phone everyone is interested in. Look how ridiculous the Galaxy Nexus forum is already and the phone was just ANNOUNCED weeks ago, not even released yet. We have what we have over here, and complaining about it doesn't help anything. Short of unlocking the BL ourselves and enticing devs by buying them the phone, we probably are not going to get more than the handful of ROMs and support we currently have.
The newly released Eclipse 1.2 and Liberty 3 RC1 are fantastic. This is how the X2 shouldve have been out of the box. Liberty final is coming soon and that'll be it till we get ICS. My phone is now almost as smooth as an iphone.
Also, use the following apps:
Go Launcher
Opera
Quickpic
ES File Explorer
ROM Toolbox
Handcent
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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That's because it IS great and every update gets even better.
don't forget to customize your phone to make it run how you want. Don't feel limited in what this phone can do/handle.
A custom launcher can make a lot of difference in how you phone feels.
I LOVE go launcher ex. Lots of themes and home screen options. Different screen transition animation(even in app drawer..sphere animation is sick)
Right now im still using the launcher that came wit 1.2eclipse..it works smooth and looks good.
Just throwing in my 2cents but the previously mentions about just buying on cool specs is always going to backfire. And the other point about the devs not being able to keep up with the phones is the second major issue.
I got "upgraded" to the DX2 from my DX by insurance and I have run almost every rom I could. After the time I spent with my DX it was as fast as this phone is and there was way more choice of hacks and roms. I have to give serious props to Nitro, the Liberty crew and Navendrob (hope I spelled the name right) because they have done some great work. But unfortunately by the time all their hard work is finally paying off the majority of us will be on the next phone.
To bad more people can't afford to donate to devs so they can have new toys to hack on....
Anyone else think this is good news?
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Who is nitro
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Nitroglycerin33 is who he is talking about. He is good developer. He has created roms for couple Moto devices. He is the creator of Eclipse rom. He help are community by making the Unofficial Razr Bootstrap. He made the only deodex rom for the CDMA droid Razr. He help many people get the OTA update to pass install. I say he is pretty important for use "VZW Droid Razr" i give him props nd hope to see more awesome work from him
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this is good news!
This is great news no doubt!
He is definitely a beast on the dev stuff however this isnt a new thing he got the razr more than a week or more ago
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He is definitely a beast on the dev stuff however this isnt a new thing he got the razr more than a week or more ago
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Yeah, but I just heard about it on droudrzr.com & hadn't seen it mentioned here. Could be cuz he may be leaving xda...
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Nitro saved my butt from the agony of not being able to accept the OTA due to some fouled modding. I saw this a while ago but man am I glad you guys got him one. I hope Nitro knows how much his work is appreciated.
I have ran his roms on many phones with no complaints. The guy is a straight up beast. Eclipse is the only rom you would ever need. And now if the fastboot files turn out to be legit...Stand back cause **** is about to get nasty.
He did some pretty cool stuff with the fascinate as well. His themes were really tight
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From what I gather, droidrzr.com was having a giveaway & he won.
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Very nice! lol See? people were panicking for no reason!
Per Droid Life, and Twitter, Verizon tweeted that they are in the midst of updating their Software Upgrade Timeline. Droid Life is stating they feel the X2 is a yes in getting it.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/1...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
We can only hope! I saw, tweet the snot out of Verzion and DEMAND ICS for the X2 (and adding an unlocked boot loader would be icing on the cake, er sandwich)
I have to agree with this list. Although I don't think the x1 down will receive ICS to push users to get newer devices.
It better also come with an unlocked bootloader IF we get ICS!
Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry though since I have CM7 now.
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Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry though since I have CM7 now.
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True, very true. But, to have an official ICS means possibly that Dragonzkiller and company can REALLY go to town on CM9 for the X2!
Motorola better not stiff us on ICS like they did the boot loaders.
But, the X2 will still be my final Moto device since they lied to us about the boot loaders and have not returned a single email I've sent. And I've been cordial and tactful. No hate, no cussing, no name-calling; very business-like but frank and to the point.
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Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry
though since I have CM7 now.
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They gave us updates for bug fixes with more bugs in them.
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iBolski said:
Per Droid Life, and Twitter, Verizon tweeted that they are in the midst of updating their Software Upgrade Timeline. Droid Life is stating they feel the X2 is a yes in getting it.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/1...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
We can only hope! I saw, tweet the snot out of Verzion and DEMAND ICS for the X2 (and adding an unlocked boot loader would be icing on the cake, er sandwich)
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Lol at OG Droid "not likely ". Did it even get ota gingerbread?
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This could be why 2.3.5 still hasn't been released for this phone after tht leak.... Still on 2.3.4 eclipse and running great.
I was under the impression Moto said that every dual-core device would get ICS eventually.
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Lol at OG Droid "not likely ". Did it even get ota gingerbread?
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It didn't, only way to get GB on the OG was through custom ROMs such as CM7.
ICS maybe is better then no ICS at all... err. Think we all need patience, I am sure Moto will be pushing ICS to their 4G devices first, but who knows.
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True, very true. But, to have an official ICS means possibly that Dragonzkiller and company can REALLY go to town on CM9 for the X2!
Motorola better not stiff us on ICS like they did the boot loaders.
But, the X2 will still be my final Moto device since they lied to us about the boot loaders and have not returned a single email I've sent. And I've been cordial and tactful. No hate, no cussing, no name-calling; very business-like but frank and to the point.
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+1
If Moto gives us four (?) crappy updates and drops support, it will be a cold day when I buy moto again.
Give me CM9 and Ill be happy!!! Good job Dragon and company!
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Give me CM9 and Ill be happy!!! Good job Dragon and company!
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Is somebody working on CM9 or ICS for X2 or are we going to need a pushed ICS update for the kernel before a ROM is attempted?
I doubt we will get it but if we do? A 4.0 superbloated blur infested phone is what we will have. My question would be...will 2nd init likely have to be started from scratch?
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I'm waiting until either the bionic or razor to get it and watch their forums to see what moto has screwed up or even make it possible to root my theory is that we might have to create a new 2int which would suck
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It better also come with an unlocked bootloader IF we get ICS!
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Lol one step at a time
I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
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I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
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It is almost 100% working HDMI is not supported by cm so that'll be a while it may never get outta the beta name
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Meticode said:
I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
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I would like to believe that but the Droid X had way better reception inside buildings then the Droid X2 I currently have. I have tried everything currently running eclipse 2.0.3 with mash up mod. I been thinking about trying CM7 but not if its really better then eclipse.
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I would like to believe that but the Droid X had way better reception inside buildings then the Droid X2 I currently have. I have tried everything currently running eclipse 2.0.3 with mash up mod. I been thinking about trying CM7 but not if its really better then eclipse.
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Thanks for that...
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