Hi all,
i would like to know what is so special about this ROM in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212949
Because we all are using cm7 modded roms and cm6, what is so special about it? just wondering since the day that thread came into existence. Thats all.
Thank you
Tim
do you know the different already
I don't understand it either but I think that:
X10 mini is not supported officialy by CM6 or CM7 but we need to use port like miniCM6 to make it work.
If you look at the official webpage, there is no SE phone supported http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices
So I think this new project is to build a CM7 Rom for the Xperia line which may be more stable and more complete than other custom ROM. Moreover I think that SE developpers are gonna help in this project by giving some code for special hardware.
(Look at this http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/09/28/sony-ericsson-supports-independent-developers/)
If someone know more about this, it would be interesting!!!
The general idea is, that every bit of software on the phone should be open source, i.e. Free for everyone.
The driver layer of stock firmware is not open source, therefore you either have to adapt your operating system to work with standard drivers in kernel (what most developers/chefs do) or build drivers from the ground up (which is what FXP team is doing).
Then you have a completely open system with source code available for everyone.
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The general idea is, that every bit of software on the phone should be open source, i.e. Free for everyone.
The driver layer of stock firmware is not open source, therefore you either have to adapt your operating system to work with standard drivers in kernel (what most developers/chefs do) or build drivers from the ground up (which is what FXP team is doing).
Then you have a completely open system with source code available for everyone.
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FreeXperiaProjekt
all is FREE for the XPERIAS thats our PROJEKT
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FreeXperiaProjekt
all is FREE for the XPERIAS thats our PROJEKT
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You can read that in many ways...
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Thanks all! i didnt know all would be such interested in that.
But well, i guess that this project will be better because it is started from the base.
I use a x10 mini pro (2010) and cant use the stock rom, because im too fond of the gingerbread roms out here. all are special in some way. and im testing each one specifically. if i use the stock rom i miss out some features i like and do upgrade.
So i wondered, if this FXP is something different, like pfonck said, build from ground up, then it would work according to our needs. very good and i like it.
Keep it up devs (i mean, FXP team!).
regards,
Tim
If you know what is inside the source code of everything, all the way from bootloader to app it's much easier to bugfix... So all in all they should be able to create an up to date rom that rivals the old stock rom for stability.
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thanks pfonck for the info. you are right. since we are porting the roms from something sles we dont get the "real deal" out of a gingerbread rom or froyobread rom. that speaks well because it is from the base.
hope soon everyone will jump to it
Thanks
regards
Tim
I think what will be special about this ROM is that it won't be special! It'll be a 'vanilla' CM7 which will be open source and made specifically for each device. I imagine it will, with regular bugfixing, become the most stable custon ROM, and I envisage that it'll be the basis for most other Mini Pro custom ROMs.
It won't be anything revolutionary that we haven't seen from other ported gingerbread ROM's, in fact it'll probably have less features. People may still prefer a port of GingerDX which has the GingerDX settings. Or MiniCM Pro with its Xloud and Bravia engine. But for those who want a pure CM7 experience from developers who now have access and help from Sony Ericsson to use official drivers, it should turn out great. (and also, no developers names written on the lockscreen)
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Hi Guys
Now that we have root access to our X10 mini/mini pro, I hope we can interessest some developers to make us a custom ROM.
So I hope, with this Thread we can draw the attention of some DEV's
:-D Let's hope and pray
dabulcke said:
So I hope, with this Thread we can draw the attention of some DEV's
:-D Let's hope and pray
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+1 hope we'll be heard
Why to work on 2.1 when 2.2 is available. Look forward to 2.2 Rom
Same progress must be done like on X10. So please be patient. First i (or somebody else who is faster) must fix X10flash, so that we are able to flash everytime to a desired version of rom.
then SPL must be hacked. We can try to port softspl from goroh. but first other progress must be made.
Regards
Bin4ry
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Why to work on 2.1 when 2.2 is available. Look forward to 2.2 Rom
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Good point there had to think of that myself off course.
Bin4ry said:
Same progress must be done like on X10. So please be patient. First i (or somebody else who is faster) must fix X10flash, so that we are able to flash everytime to a desired version of rom.
then SPL must be hacked. We can try to port softspl from goroh. but first other progress must be made.
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Bin4ry
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Hi Binary, thanks for the information. As I'm a noob in this, I'm trying to follow the complete progress. So I don't know how the progress will be and what steps need to be taken before you developers can make ROM's. But now I have an idea and i will be happy to follow the progress.
Regards
dabulcke
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So I don't know how the progress will be and what steps need to be taken before you developers can make ROM's.
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They need a tool that can flash the ROM into the device without bricking it, without that tool creating ROMs is first of all useless and secondly hard to test.
Good thinking. And it seems Bin4ry is advance and has already thought of creating ROMs at the back of his mind. And true let us go step by step.
Bin4ry, could you through some light why its hard to flash roms?
I think the hardware for rom is same between x10 and x10 mini. If you could share some knowledge on what blocks the custom flashing could help many of us to have broader understanding.
Is the device drivers or is it the software protections that keeps away from overwriting the ROMS?
Some insights required.
As far as C/C++ goes, even i can chimp in some hands, provided i know what to do, how to do and where to start from.
THIS might be of help, Viny - at least that's where I'm going to start and it seems it's a must to start there in order to understand how the AndroidOS works, and info about ROMs.
Thanks, I have already started reading http://pdk.android.com/
A Custom Wildfire ROM for the X10 Mini/X10 Mini Pro would be awesome..
A 2.2 would also be awesome.
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Bin4ry, could you through some light why its hard to flash roms?
I think the hardware for rom is same between x10 and x10 mini. If you could share some knowledge on what blocks the custom flashing could help many of us to have broader understanding.
Is the device drivers or is it the software protections that keeps away from overwriting the ROMS?
Some insights required.
As far as C/C++ goes, even i can chimp in some hands, provided i know what to do, how to do and where to start from.
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Hardware is completely different, cpus arent the same, lcd, storage... whats more or less shared is the s1 bootloader which is for the entire s1 platform from sony ericsson. Though bootloaders rent the same because theyre compiled for each cpu.. thats whats preventing us from flashing on both phones. I hope when a real fix is found for one of them we will have it easier to port to the rest of the platform. Until that well have to stick to jumping from initial se kernel to boot custom roms. For that, a kexec module for these kernels must be built (gorohkun's spl for x10 wont work without a lot of modifications....)
Mitchio said:
A Custom Wildfire ROM for the X10 Mini/X10 Mini Pro would be awesome..
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The RAM on the x10 mini would be way to little to run a Sense ROM smoothly..
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The RAM on the x10 mini would be way to little to run a Sense ROM smoothly..
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Complete nonsense ..
Lots of HTC devices have worse specs and run Sense smoothly.
dabulcke said:
Hi Guys
Now that we have root access to our X10 mini/mini pro, I hope we can interessest some developers to make us a custom ROM.
So I hope, with this Thread we can draw the attention of some DEV's
:-D Let's hope and pray
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+1 I would give my left nut for a custom ROM
The RAM on the x10 mini would be way to little to run a Sense ROM smoothly..
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You are wrong.
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You are wrong.
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It would probably work , but X10 has 128MB while Wildfire has 384MB so he has a point.
The RAM/NAND chip on the x10 mini is a Samsung K524G2GACB-A050 chip, with a theoretical 4gb NAND memory and 2gb SDRAM ( supposedly this translates to 512mb ROM and 256mb RAM
The above findings are based on elementary research. If somebody with better technological insight wants to to correct this, please feel free to do so.
http://www.phonewreck.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/X10PCB1.jpg
Interestingly, the MSM7227 Qualcamm processor has an FPU so in theory it's more than capable of running FROYO with flash 10.1 support, but whether SE and Adobe decide to give us this privelege is another thing altogether. I guess it remains up to the community to build their own ROM if they don't.
(and yes I know it'll never happen because flash 10.1 is built around the ARMV7 architecture, but at least SE could give us flash lite 4)
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+1 I would give my left nut for a custom ROM
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+1 from my end too and might I proffer my right one for the cause.
P.S.: I doubt the Dev's are interested in . . . ahem "nuts", the offer stands though
OK so I'm really sorry if this has been discussed before but I've searched around and really found nothing that makes any sense to me. A bit about me, I'm a software developer and I'm trying to get into this rom building etc deal but the more I read about it the more complex it gets so I need a few things clarified for me.
From my understanding the rom is the os itself and the baseband is some sort of interface between hardware and the os??
What is the purpose of the kernel? how can I flash the kernel? Is it possible to only flash the kernel? is there away to go back to stock kernel and how?
I tried using some "stock" kernels in a few thread then slapped on the latest MIUI IRIS 1.5 rom with bb52 and no radio or wifi, assuming bad kernel?
Where and how would I be able to get the source code to get started developing myself?
Again really sorry for the n00b questions, but I did do searches for several days and spent hours on this site, maybe just not asking the right questions. All help and advice is greatly appreciated and hopefully I can start helping out soon.
To start to help u, you have your phone rooted, with the latest busybox, with xrecovery i am assuming?
If u don't, post again and the members here including me will help u out.
I will post links with guides to help u when u give an answer back.
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Yes phone is rooted and been playing around with a few different roms already, although I may have just bricked my phone, can't even get into xRecovery anymore . Never installed busybox though, have no idea what its used for but I'll get on that as soon as I can get it to boot again. Thanks
Use seus to repair your phone. That is Sony Ericsson software.
If that doesnt work, try flashtool
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Voelker45 said:
Use seus to repair your phone. That is Sony Ericsson software.
If that doesnt work, try flashtool
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Flashtool saved the day!
Voelker45 said:
To start to help u, you have your phone rooted, with the latest busybox, with xrecovery i am assuming?
If u don't, post again and the members here including me will help u out.
I will post links with guides to help u when u give an answer back.
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Ok I think I'm ready to move on, Phone is rooted using Flashtool and I noticed that it installs busybox with the root, also reinstalled xRecovery to install TripNMIUI IRIS 1.5 on bb52 which works great so far.
So of i understand, u want to install that ROM or have u installed it already?
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Voelker45 said:
So of i understand, u want to install that ROM or have u installed it already?
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Its all installed now.
The original purpose of this thread is to get me started on possibly developing my own roms. Like where do I get the source code? what language is this written in, is it C, C++, or Java like the apps? what tools do I need to get started? etc.
Thanks
ChappyK said:
Its all installed now.
The original purpose of this thread is to get me started on possibly developing my own roms. Like where do I get the source code? what language is this written in, is it C, C++, or Java like the apps? what tools do I need to get started? etc.
Thanks
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The programing of creating ROMS themselves is out of my league big time. I can't help you in that department at all. I can though say to either put that question out in the Q and A or lastly, PM a developer here to at least get you some info. But the PM answer do come slowly since its on their personal time. Hope this helps.
He already posted in q&a... This thread! But changing the title to "How do I get started building roms?" or something similar will get you more & better answers.
Search XDA for "Rom kitchen" or "cooking roms". If you search "Xperia kitchen" I think there is a thread where you can download the programs and resources for your workspace. Look around in android development for useful threads & stickies too.
That's all i got lol, hope it helps
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AyDee said:
He already posted in q&a... This thread! But changing the title to "How do I get started building roms?" or something similar will get you more & better answers.
Search XDA for "Rom kitchen" or "cooking roms". If you search "Xperia kitchen" I think there is a thread where you can download the programs and resources for your workspace. Look around in android development for useful threads & stickies too.
That's all i got lol, hope it helps
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Sweet thanks for the advice, this should at least get me asking the right questions
ChappyK said:
Its all installed now.
The original purpose of this thread is to get me started on possibly developing my own roms. Like where do I get the source code? what language is this written in, is it C, C++, or Java like the apps? what tools do I need to get started? etc.
Thanks
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if u are interested in building ROMs i highly recommend that u check out:
dsixda's Android Kitchen
as for ROM sources...
Android Open Source Project (generic Android sources)
CyanogenMod Sources (a popular branch of android)
FreeXperia Project (specific to SE Xperia X10/X8)
sources are mostly C (C++)...
apps are using Java...
DooMLoRD said:
if u are interested in building ROMs i highly recommend that u check out:
dsixda's Android Kitchen
as for ROM sources...
Android Open Source Project (generic Android sources)
CyanogenMod Sources (a popular branch of android)
FreeXperia Project (specific to SE Xperia X10/X8)
sources are mostly C (C++)...
apps are using Java...
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+1 Thanks
Hi all,
say that I'd like to try a CM7 custom compilation (e.g., removes half of packages, ...) for the sake of learning, what steps do you suggest to get into?
Compiling a full debuggable ROM and test it in the Android emulator?
Could I test It along with SE kernel (e.g., with the latest)?
In the emulator should i to install the SE related packages in order to set up the Xperia HW emulation?
Cheers!
There's a package of scripts named kitchen, made of a member here that let you customize a rom. There is even a root method that we were talking about the other day.
https://github.com/dsixda/Android-Kitchen
Hi kissmyarch,
i meant bulid It from the sources, not through the kitchen way ;-)
Oook sorry then.
LoL take a rom add ur theme, choose ur fav apps! Choose ur modules! And ur done! Custom rom is ready!
You know, I don't think people (including me) want to make a "repack" of an existing ROM, but build their own from sources instead, galvic
LoL nevermind then! This is what happening lately on mini pro forums, I just revealed how its being done!
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You know, I don't think people (including me) want to make a "repack" of an existing ROM, but build their own from sources instead, galvic
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I agree with Ravencz, building from sources is more funny than cooking... the fact is that you find a tutorial on cooking in the forum (and it's simplistic as hell) and no an hint on how to port your own CyanogenMod on your mini pro... what a pity...
Hoping someone on the devs' side will read this post ;-D... Cheers!
First of all cyanogenmod is already a cooked rom! If u want to port cyanogenmod u've to open it and then make it compatible for mini pro and repack it!
But you dont want that so rename the thread how to create custom gingerbread rom!
then use Sources from AOSP rom! Then repack 'em! Thats how its done, kitchen just provides an enviorenment for this!
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First of all cyanogenmod is already a cooked rom! If u want to port cyanogenmod u've to open it and then make it compatible for mini pro and repack it!
But you dont want that so rename the thread how to create custom gingerbread rom!
then use Sources from AOSP rom! Then repack 'em! Thats how its done, kitchen just provides an enviorenment for this!
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I'm sorry, but that's not completely true. CyanogenMod has it's sources as well. Sure, you can download a clean build from their website, but you can also build CM on your own.
@galvic: CM doesn't seem a cooked ROM to me, since they provide the repository from which you could clone the sources. CM seems more a fork (with enrichments/improvements) of AOSP and cooking a CM isn't the same of building its source.
So the thread is correct, because if i fetch and edit the Gingerbread branch of CM source, actually i've built a custom CM7.
Instead of linking those megabytes of ROMs, shouldn't be better working on CM's branch and attach the related patches that brought to a custom CM ROMs, as patches for kernel modules and so on? Benefits of patches are small downloads size, learning what people do in making your beloved ROM, ... On the other side you've to set up a developer's environment, that is a bit expensive (Gingerbread sources are around 7 Gigabytes, if i'm not wrong).
I don't know if Gingerbread is the best choice with the unchangeable kernel that SE stuck on our smartphone, but say Gingerbread or Froyo or whatever the fix you've to make on a CM are (logically) the same until someone will make an hackish strike and take down that damned bootloader.
See you!
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I'm sorry, but that's not completely true. CyanogenMod has it's sources as well. Sure, you can download a clean build from their website, but you can also build CM on your own.
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Sorry but CM is also bult on sources of AOSP
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Sorry but CM is also bult on sources of AOSP
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Of course it is, but it's modified
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Of course it is, but it's modified
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So we should also modify them exclusively for mini pro, then it'll be called a perfect ROM?
thats what free-xperia project did, use miniCM resources!
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So we should also modify them exclusively for mini pro, then it'll be called a perfect ROM?
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Nope, compiling gives you control over things such as source code, compiling options/flags for optimization (say that our mini pros have ARMv6 processor, why having a ROM built for generic ARM architecture? It doesn't make any sense... that's the source-oriented GNU/Linux distro way as Gentoo: compiling kernel and all application for your machine in order to have best performances and responses), possibility of adding removing code (e.g. libraries, system applications) and so on.
Cooking let's you modify something pre-made and doesn't give you *full* control on it ;-)
If we've to take over the world, we've to do it in the proper way! :-D
Cheers
Hi,
This rom looks a beast and has already been ported to the Xperia Play, Xperia Arc and the X8
Can anyone help or give guidance in getting this great rom ported to the Xperia S
My skills are very limited however with guidance I am willing to attempt it and give it a go but i need help and guidance from someone who knows a lot more about it than me
Is there anyone willing to help get this rom ported over to us on the Xperia S ?
Hi. For porting you need to select a device that is similar to the XS at least resolution wise. Your base rom would be latest CM9 or CM10. Delete the app and framework folder one by one and replace it with the folders from the PA rom. Similarly replace the bootanimation.zip in system/media. Change fields in the build.prop as they are going in the PA Rom'.
Make a zip and try flashing. If it works your luck is good but if it bootloops you need to make changes in the frameworkres.apk which requires decompiling it and stuff. I'm still learning how to do the framework part.
Tapatalked !!
So the Rom from the nexus?
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Would need to use latest cm9 as base as it is stable and has more working than cm10
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Can we not use a Rom kitchen to port this Rom over?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625862
found this link, would this work ?
Use latest FXP as the base rom for our device ? really really want to give this ago but I need someone who knows more than to guide me
Use the latest FXP. nexus will do
Tapatalked !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
got this guide going to try and port it this weekend
going to have to use cm9 version of paranoid android so camera works so thinking HD2 ?
If you want to do anything that's maintainable, build from source.
Building from source is a hell of a job and afaik this method will work for all the future updates and is tad easier than building from source
Tapatalked !!
I dont have the ability to build from source
Could look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27602914&postcount=24 I tried it with ICS, never booted.
I don't have any ability whatsoever, but I can be a tester (make sure kernel is easy to work with dual boot) and, if needed, I can give a little of my pc processing (not much).
"I got my values. So you can keep yours, OK?"
How about a paranoid android bounty thread?
Pledge donations so some developer with skill might take it on?
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Hi all, I've asked to Achotjan to port Semc Debrand Engine on CM10 and It told that if we achieve to get him one of SK17i device he'll port Semc Debrand Engine to it, also for CM10.1 !
C'mon! Let's donate to him!
If it based on CM10...then we must wait till SONY release JB update to any Xpreria 2012 first...
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C'mon developers! Let's donate to him!
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wth?
developers are the ones that need donations
they are not the ones that will donate
and this will fail cause only few users are willing to donate (10 max)
@Till-Kruspe That's right but in the meantime he can begin to port everything that can be already ported
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If it based on CM10...then we must wait till SONY release JB update to any Xpreria 2012 first...
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And I guess we're not getting it before February :/
Hit THANKS if my post helps you!
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t_gets_the_android_jelly_bean_update-news-5469.php
Jelly Bean update for Xperia T finally rolling out anyone with a spare xperia mini pro for Achotjan ?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t_gets_the_android_jelly_bean_update-news-5469.php
Jelly Bean update for Xperia T finally rolling out anyone with a spare xperia mini pro for Achotjan ?
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Can't he ask a mini pro owner to test the ROM?
What u aren't looking for a tester?
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Can't he ask a mini pro owner to test the ROM?
What u aren't looking for a tester?
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+1
testers are almost same as Achotjan having the device,and much cheaper
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testers are almost same as Achotjan having the device,and much cheaper
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you are right, but you forgot somethink ! TIME
First i am not payd to do my work
second i havent that time to do tests by contacting always a tester and they are not always there if i want to work on 02am its my decision and tester will not be there i havent a so good connection to share every houre or minute a new version to test , and if even i decide to do i will say good bay to my personal life and also
slow down other xperia devices developpement and its not a good think
its simple i am proposing a way to have all SDE future version you arent agree no problem when will see that its not mor possible to support that device will just stop working on it
cheers
Achotjan
Why the fu*k will someone want "SDE", if you will need to unlock bootloader to install that? (and in some causes unlock the phone to have bootloader unlocked).
jelly bean rom uses jelly bean kernel, right? We only have official ics kernel, unless sony releases jelly bean for 2011 devices which I doubt.. so you will need custom kernel, and if you unlock bootloader, since your phone will be "free", why not install aokp rom or cyanogen instead and apply a similar to semc theme? It's the same sh*t..
I was an x8 user and never liked this rom. Just a ****ty cm7, with semc theme (and probably some mods on framework-res.apk, but even I can do that) and a different logo on kernel..
I'm just saying, it will be just another rom based on cm, nothing new..
P.s: want real DEVS ? Search for racht, nobodyAtall and doixanh. They're legen... wait for it.. dary!
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LuisDias said:
Why the fu*k will someone want "SDE", if you will need to unlock bootloader to install that? (and in some causes unlock the phone to have bootloader unlocked).
jelly bean rom uses jelly bean kernel, right? We only have official ics kernel, unless sony releases jelly bean for 2011 devices which I doubt.. so you will need custom kernel, and if you unlock bootloader, since your phone will be "free", why not install aokp rom or cyanogen instead and apply a similar to semc theme? It's the same sh*t..
I was an x8 user and never liked this rom. Just a ****ty cm7, with semc theme (and probably some mods on framework-res.apk, but even I can do that) and a different logo on kernel..
I'm just saying, it will be just another rom based on cm, nothing new..
P.s: want real DEVS ? Search for racht, nobodyAtall and doixanh. They're legen... wait for it.. dary!
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I used X8,and sde was my favourite rom,so i dont agree with you.CM9 is faster then stock ics without any mods,so sde is making us feel like we use sony on fastest warriant of ics.Nobodyatall is a legend,i will admit that,i doubt that any dev here is better then him(NO OFFENSE DEVS,YOU ARE GREAT).But he himself made fully working unofficial ports of cm7,9 and 10.
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Why the fu*k will someone want "SDE", if you will need to unlock bootloader to install that? (and in some causes unlock the phone to have bootloader unlocked).
jelly bean rom uses jelly bean kernel, right? We only have official ics kernel, unless sony releases jelly bean for 2011 devices which I doubt.. so you will need custom kernel, and if you unlock bootloader, since your phone will be "free", why not install aokp rom or cyanogen instead and apply a similar to semc theme? It's the same sh*t..
I was an x8 user and never liked this rom. Just a ****ty cm7, with semc theme (and probably some mods on framework-res.apk, but even I can do that) and a different logo on kernel..
I'm just saying, it will be just another rom based on cm, nothing new..
P.s: want real DEVS ? Search for racht, nobodyAtall and doixanh. They're legen... wait for it.. dary!
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If u don't like it keep ur opinions to urself, nobody force u to use it.
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LuisDias said:
Why the fu*k will someone want "SDE", if you will need to unlock bootloader to install that? (and in some causes unlock the phone to have bootloader unlocked).
jelly bean rom uses jelly bean kernel, right? We only have official ics kernel, unless sony releases jelly bean for 2011 devices which I doubt.. so you will need custom kernel, and if you unlock bootloader, since your phone will be "free", why not install aokp rom or cyanogen instead and apply a similar to semc theme? It's the same sh*t..
I was an x8 user and never liked this rom. Just a ****ty cm7, with semc theme (and probably some mods on framework-res.apk, but even I can do that) and a different logo on kernel..
I'm just saying, it will be just another rom based on cm, nothing new..
P.s: want real DEVS ? Search for racht, nobodyAtall and doixanh. They're legen... wait for it.. dary!
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Hi, i agree with your point, really !
but you dont know what SDE is, i am not moding the rom and not editing framework-res
SDE source are similar to Sony firmware source, ther was many clone of my work on x8 thread you shuld used another clone that is themed
in fact you can open the rom and lock into the apps they are not edited and they are original sony apps with diferent signature key
the SDE sources bigest advantage is the framework, not the framework-res but all framework files and they are not edited after the rom was created but in the original source then builded
lock into my signature to see the links of devices that i support and take a lock into the xperia x10 one cause it has everithink working
on x8 in the past we had the problem with drm so somme apps like semcmusic that are depanding was not working and replaced them by other apps
but now even on xperia x8 i fixed the problem by porting the ICS drm code and make it compatible with semc apps,
you are talking about nAa, yes a good friend and his kernel v14 is released specially for my rom with ics drm support, and the source code was sent by me to him, you could ask
sony apps and framework are using a call method and somme other feature inside the framework that original aosp cm and aokp rom havent, you could see all other rom based on cm aokp or aosp with semc theme and app cant never tray to be the rival of SDE rom
they edits app doing hacks, i traying understand what changes sony has done and adding them into CM, but i stoped to work on CM now
my future version is based on aosp will include many features from aokp and cm
and creat somme other features specially for xperia devices,
the only think thats not god on SDE its that its for now based on CM so it cant be poplar and made confusion and many think its a themed rom but its not
if you want you can pm me will explain everithink and show you somme of part of my work too
just now tray to take a cm rom and add the semcgenericuxpres.apk on it and add the line in build.prop to enable and you will see that it will not work as android not support 2nd framework app but on sde it work , how ? i has donne changes into assetmanager to load the 2nd framework file and after compiling it it become the libutils.so so i think you know no one can edit a .so file only you can build it and make change be knowing developement and not only knowing but understanding and you need to be good also
cheers
Achotjan
ok guys its time to end this, pleas OP ask to a moderator to remove the thread
not cause i decided to stop the work but cause the title is wrong
i will never make a cm10.1 version for 2011 even cm10
but SDE android 4.1.2 yes next version will be based on AOSP and will have CM and AOKP features and somme extra features too
so SDE based on CM its over !
cheers
Achotjan
R: [REQUEST]Let Achotjan get a Xperia 2011 MDPI device to get Semc Debrand Engine CM1
shadik555 said:
I used X8,and sde was my favourite rom,so i dont agree with you.CM9 is faster then stock ics without any mods,so sde is making us feel like we use sony on fastest warriant of ics.Nobodyatall is a legend,i will admit that,i doubt that any dev here is better then him(NO OFFENSE DEVS,YOU ARE GREAT).But he himself made fully working unofficial ports of cm7,9 and 10.
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Trust me..no! The phone will be laggy!!
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ElmirBuljubasic said:
Trust me..no! The phone will be laggy!!
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No itcwont,st15i has hardware 2 times better then your device(x8,ako kupis ovaj mobitel,jasno ces vidjet),because xperia mini and other xperia 2011 have officialstock sony ics,which means it is above the minimum for cm9 and 10.our phones have 500 mb of internal and 380 of external.Facing the fact that there wont be sde for our xperia 2011 mdpi line makes me cry. :crying:
ElmirBuljubasic said:
Trust me..no! The phone will be laggy!!
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no the phone wont be laggy, cause if original sony ics is released and working stable
then a tweaked and cm based stock rom will be 2 time faster
x8 has a problem of so poor ram, thats why the rom i made is stable but laggy
cheers
Achotjan